AAFP-to rejoin or not to rejoin?

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Could you start by actually making a system of courses and requirements that even a majority of people who attended Medical Schools, Complete Residency Programs, have taken a gazillion tests including ones that strain one's cognitive problem solving, scematic thinking; Just can not figure out so as to qualify for the longer 10 years... Get 10 FP's in a room, and you'll get 10 different answers to the module this, two from here and one from there.... a partridge in a freakin' pear tree combined with some eye of Newt... OMG, like WTF was Dr. Jon Bertman and his code writing friends on when the created this system??? Yes I heard that Jon was one of the folks on the panel that created the Module system... I kid you not and we are Proud AC users too... so not just taking an easy swack at the man

here... We use and like his product... But this system is INSANE... I think you should immediately be re-uped the moment you can properly figure the darn thing out in the first place. That's enough of a problem solving test of skill and reasoning...

Hope I made you smile....

To: " " < >Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:51 PMSubject: RE: AAFP-to rejoin or not to rejoin?For those of you who are Family Docs., I was just elected to the ABFM. I start in July and have 5 years to help the board do the right thing. I have little hope to make radical changes, but my application

revolved around how to make it easier to stay boarded and do all the other stuff we might want to do. For instance, if you are doing Meaningful use, you are doing a quality improvement process that should count towards the boards as well. There are always other docs to help with the medical piece and knowing the latest exotic disease things are not helpful to us. So, if you have suggestions for me to help the board change, let me know. They are responsive and are much the greater leaders in FM than the AAFP. In fact, my membership just lapsed to the AAFP since I just can't believe paying the dues is worth it. I have a member since 1977 and now am not!________________________________________From: [ ] On Behalf Of [jnantonucci@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:15 AMTo: Subject: Re: AAFP-to rejoin or not to rejoin?i track my own CME read the AAFP website becasue they are good about sharing a fair amnt of stuff plus I complain about the price of Assembly for non memebrs That is what I do.LAst yr at Assembly I had a visitor badge and they yelled at me for that..:)I have not found a reaosn to go back but am really sorry about that.Some good folks thereIMP gets its CME though AAFP even though I am not a member they let me(I use a

member's aafp number to say he signed off) and that dept is great!too bad.On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:53 PM, drsof99 > wrote:So, I have been ignoring the "bills" and have pondered for a second year in a row whether or not to renew my dues. I have yet to hear a valid arguments other than my sheer laziness of not wanting to track my CME and needing board review questions. I have had some major life changes and I am no longer working full time in medicine. Quite honestly, I am not content with the organization and do not have the time to effect change. Apparently the only way to really make a difference would require being a Board member in my local and then hoping to garnish the votes to become a delegate. Press interviews and

letters are more my style.Thoughts?Those that dropped the AAFP-what have you done?-- MD ph fax <http://>------------------------------------

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Jim, Please let the Board(ABFM)know that I am absolutely FURIOUS with them for

coming up with such a ridiculously complex and time-consuming scheme for

maintenance of certification!!! Do other specialty boards put their diplomates

through this kind of ordeal? I feel that we ordinary physicians have been

completely sold out by people who must have no idea what a struggle it is just

to survive in today's practice environment. I have no problem with reading to

keep up with the problems I am encountering from day to day, earning some CME

credits of my own choosing, and taking occasional tests. In fact, I would

rather take a day-long test EVERY YEAR than keep up with this MOC!! And I'll

bet there is absolutely no evidence that doing all of this will make us better

family doctors. If I didn't have to be board certified to participate with most

insurance companies, I would absolutely let my certification lapse. And if I

ever go CASH ONLY, which it looks like I will need to since I have no intention

of becoming part of an ACO, I will definitly drop it!---Sharlene---

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> So, I have been ignoring the " bills " and have pondered for a second year in a

row whether or not to renew my dues. I have yet to hear a valid arguments other

than my sheer laziness of not wanting to track my CME and needing board review

questions. I have had some major life changes and I am no longer working full

time in medicine. Quite honestly, I am not content with the organization and do

not have the time to effect change. Apparently the only way to really make a

difference would require being a Board member in my local and then hoping to

garnish the votes to become a delegate. Press interviews and letters are more my

style.

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> Thoughts?

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> Those that dropped the AAFP-what have you done?

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Jim, I like 's wording (see below) MUCH BETTER than my own reply. I was

much too polite!!---Sharlene---

" two from here and one from there.... a partridge in a freakin' pear tree

combined with some eye of Newt... OMG, like WTF was Dr. Jon Bertman and his code

writing friends on when they created this system??? Yes I heard that Jon was one

of the folks on the panel that created the Module system... I kid you not and we

are Proud AC users too... so not just taking an easy swack at the man here... We

use and like his product... But this system is INSANE... "

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Jim Congrats and thank you for askingIndeed the process is  quite complex and  I read it over and over and never understand 2 of this and 1 of that  for 7 yrs  or 3 of this and 4 of that for ten...It really is insultingly ridiculous

In addition I deeply resented being fingerprinted before and after emptying my bladder at a test center with three staff and six test takers. My pockets were searched- though I had to tell them that blue jeans have back pockets, they  might check  there, I had to be fearful of a hot flash becasue they would take my sweater but then I needed it back

 I i had  to use their  kleenex and keep it in plain sightThe process taught me  paranoia. It was not sensibleDo YOUR  fingerprints change after you pee? In a place with one bathroom where they saw me  go in and out?

Can  you add some dignity  to the thing while respecting the desire to avoid cheats.?also -those of us deeply involved in the work of IMP,  measuring our processes, fine tuning and remeasuring, would ilke HowsYourHealth.org to be considered as an activity that allows  ABFM credit How can that happen?

thanks for your good effort!jean

 

Jim, Please let the Board(ABFM)know that I am absolutely FURIOUS with them for coming up with such a ridiculously complex and time-consuming scheme for maintenance of certification!!! Do other specialty boards put their diplomates through this kind of ordeal? I feel that we ordinary physicians have been completely sold out by people who must have no idea what a struggle it is just to survive in today's practice environment. I have no problem with reading to keep up with the problems I am encountering from day to day, earning some CME credits of my own choosing, and taking occasional tests. In fact, I would rather take a day-long test EVERY YEAR than keep up with this MOC!! And I'll bet there is absolutely no evidence that doing all of this will make us better family doctors. If I didn't have to be board certified to participate with most insurance companies, I would absolutely let my certification lapse. And if I ever go CASH ONLY, which it looks like I will need to since I have no intention of becoming part of an ACO, I will definitly drop it!---Sharlene---

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> So, I have been ignoring the " bills " and have pondered for a second year in a row whether or not to renew my dues. I have yet to hear a valid arguments other than my sheer laziness of not wanting to track my CME and needing board review questions. I have had some major life changes and I am no longer working full time in medicine. Quite honestly, I am not content with the organization and do not have the time to effect change. Apparently the only way to really make a difference would require being a Board member in my local and then hoping to garnish the votes to become a delegate. Press interviews and letters are more my style.

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> Thoughts?

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> Those that dropped the AAFP-what have you done?

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> MD

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> ph fax

> <http://>

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Congrats Jim!!

I was able to have a wonderful discussion with Sam (also on the ABFM)

last month. Nice doc who really gets it. I have no question you guys will be

able to set the system straight. My only concern is that once you experience

the freedom of your own IMP, returning to the corporate boardroom can be a

painful task. Make sure you bring some ibuprofen.

Re: AAFP-to rejoin or not to rejoin?

i track my own CME read the AAFP website becasue they are good about

sharing a fair amnt of stuff plus I complain about the price of Assembly

for non memebrs That is what I do.

LAst yr at Assembly I had a visitor badge and they yelled at me for that..

I have not found a reaosn to go back but am really sorry about that.Some

good folks there

IMP gets its CME though AAFP even though I am not a member they let me(I use

a member's aafp number to say he signed off) and that dept is great!

too bad.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:53 PM, drsof99

> wrote:

So, I have been ignoring the " bills " and have pondered for a second year in

a row whether or not to renew my dues. I have yet to hear a valid arguments

other than my sheer laziness of not wanting to track my CME and needing

board review questions. I have had some major life changes and I am no

longer working full time in medicine. Quite honestly, I am not content with

the organization and do not have the time to effect change. Apparently the

only way to really make a difference would require being a Board member in

my local and then hoping to garnish the votes to become a delegate. Press

interviews and letters are more my style.

Thoughts?

Those that dropped the AAFP-what have you done?

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MD

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Hey having a real IMP on the board "Is Like Hitting the Lottery"!!!!

Now where did I put down my Eye of Newt????

To: Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:17 PMSubject: RE: AAFP-to rejoin or not to rejoin?

Congrats Jim!!I was able to have a wonderful discussion with Sam (also on the ABFM)last month. Nice doc who really gets it. I have no question you guys will beable to set the system straight. My only concern is that once you experiencethe freedom of your own IMP, returning to the corporate boardroom can be apainful task. Make sure you bring some ibuprofen. -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kennedy, JimSent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:51 PMTo: Subject: RE: AAFP-to rejoin or not to rejoin?For those of you who are Family Docs., I was just elected to the ABFM. Istart in July and have 5 years to help the board do the right thing. I havelittle hope to make radical changes, but my application revolved around howto make it easier to stay boarded and do all the other stuff we might wantto do. For instance, if you are doing Meaningful use, you are doing aquality improvement process that should count towards the boards as well.There are always other docs to help with the medical piece and knowing thelatest exotic disease things are not helpful to us. So, if you havesuggestions for me to help the board change, let me know. They areresponsive and are much the greater leaders in FM than the AAFP. In fact, mymembership just

lapsed to the AAFP since I just can't believe paying thedues is worth it. I have a member since 1977 and now am not!________________________________________From: [ ] On Behalf Of [jnantonucci@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:15 AMTo: Subject: Re:

AAFP-to rejoin or not to rejoin?i track my own CME read the AAFP website becasue they are good aboutsharing a fair amnt of stuff plus I complain about the price of Assemblyfor non memebrs That is what I do.LAst yr at Assembly I had a visitor badge and they yelled at me for that..:)I have not found a reaosn to go back but am really sorry about that.Somegood folks thereIMP gets its CME though AAFP even though I am not a member they let me(I usea member's aafp number to say he signed off) and that dept is great!too bad.On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:53 PM, drsof99> wrote:So, I have been ignoring the "bills" and

have pondered for a second year ina row whether or not to renew my dues. I have yet to hear a valid argumentsother than my sheer laziness of not wanting to track my CME and needingboard review questions. I have had some major life changes and I am nolonger working full time in medicine. Quite honestly, I am not content withthe organization and do not have the time to effect change. Apparently theonly way to really make a difference would require being a Board member inmy local and then hoping to garnish the votes to become a delegate. Pressinterviews and letters are more my style.Thoughts?Those that dropped the AAFP-what have you done?-- MDph fax <http://>------------------------------------

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Congratulations Jim!

To: " " < >Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 11:10:45 PMSubject: Re: AAFP-to rejoin or not to rejoin?

Hey having a real IMP on the board "Is Like Hitting the Lottery"!!!!

Now where did I put down my Eye of Newt????

To: Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:17 PMSubject: RE: AAFP-to rejoin or not to rejoin?

Congrats Jim!!I was able to have a wonderful discussion with Sam (also on the ABFM)last month. Nice doc who really gets it. I have no question you guys will beable to set the system straight. My only concern is that once you experiencethe freedom of your own IMP, returning to the corporate boardroom can be apainful task. Make sure you bring some ibuprofen. -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kennedy, JimSent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:51 PMTo: Subject: RE: AAFP-to rejoin or not to rejoin?For those of you who are Family Docs., I was just elected to the ABFM. Istart in July and have 5 years to help the board do the right thing. I havelittle hope to make radical changes, but my application revolved around howto make it easier to stay boarded and do all the other stuff we might wantto do. For instance, if you are doing Meaningful use, you are doing aquality improvement process that should count towards the boards as well.There are always other docs to help with the medical piece and knowing thelatest exotic disease things are not helpful to us. So, if you havesuggestions for me to help the board change, let me know. They areresponsive and are much the greater leaders in FM than the AAFP. In fact, mymembership just

lapsed to the AAFP since I just can't believe paying thedues is worth it. I have a member since 1977 and now am not!________________________________________From: [ ] On Behalf Of [jnantonucci@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:15 AMTo: Subject: Re:

AAFP-to rejoin or not to rejoin?i track my own CME read the AAFP website becasue they are good aboutsharing a fair amnt of stuff plus I complain about the price of Assemblyfor non memebrs That is what I do.LAst yr at Assembly I had a visitor badge and they yelled at me for that..:)I have not found a reaosn to go back but am really sorry about that.Somegood folks thereIMP gets its CME though AAFP even though I am not a member they let me(I usea member's aafp number to say he signed off) and that dept is great!too bad.On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:53 PM, drsof99> wrote:So, I have been ignoring the "bills" and

have pondered for a second year ina row whether or not to renew my dues. I have yet to hear a valid argumentsother than my sheer laziness of not wanting to track my CME and needingboard review questions. I have had some major life changes and I am nolonger working full time in medicine. Quite honestly, I am not content withthe organization and do not have the time to effect change. Apparently theonly way to really make a difference would require being a Board member inmy local and then hoping to garnish the votes to become a delegate. Pressinterviews and letters are more my style.Thoughts?Those that dropped the AAFP-what have you done?-- MDph fax <http://>------------------------------------