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I just hope I never get a doctor like him. Jan H

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Bob Aragon wrote:

> I cringe when House is abusing vicodin. He cant even pee in one episode. He

> does have a lot of liver cases, though. Sharon and I always yell in unison

> " LIVER DISEASE " when we recognize the signs.

>

> Love, Bobby

>

> " I will meet your judgement and distance with love and open arms when you

> come back. "

> Mackensie

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>

>

>

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> To: livercirrhosissupport

> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 5:34:26 PM

> Subject: Re: Jan

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> I love to watch " House " . It seems like every episode is about liver

> disease. We had asked my husband's transplant drs about either one of our

> sons being tested as a partial donor, but they told us that since my husband

> is 65 he would require a whole liver. Well, no problem. We have identical

> twins. If we had House for a dr, he would take a right lobe from one, left

> lobe from the other and, voila, a whole liver! Everybody wins! LOL.

> Jackie

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> From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>

> Subject: Jan

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 1:29 PM

>

>

>

> The doctor is trying to fiqure this all out.

> I have a few other medical problems...it is more

> difficult when someone has multiple medical things.

> I think I will request to see " HOUSE " ...anyone ever

> watch that show? Don't watch much TV myself...but,

> like to watch that one every now and again.

>

> Jan, you are like a medical wonder to me. You definitely

> would benefit from HOUSE being your doctor. He cures

> everyone but himself. They come in there with tons of

> medical problems and goes out with only one diagnosis

> that somehow is either cured or can be treated for.

>

>

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Amen. I just opened a bill for 1,000 dollars from the university from the summer

before last when my blood work shifted right, and I contracted thrush in my

mouth and throat. The ass hole doctor took one look in there, said I dont see

anything, she did a strep test and it came back negative. I could barely

swallow. They discharged me with a diagnosis of " sore throat " . By that

afternoon, my throat had bloomed, and it looked like popcorn in there. I couldnt

swallow- I went to an urgent care facility, and they were shocked that the ER

turned me away with no definative DX. Later I found that the doctor had written

some choice lies in my chart. I am going to have to raise some hell now, and get

all of this cleared up, but I am only going to pay them 5 dollars a month if I

pay anything at all. See, my insurance wouldnt cover it, because " sore throat "

is not en emergency.

Love, bobby

" I will meet your judgement and distance with love and open arms when you come

back. "

Mackensie

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Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:46:03 AM

Subject: Re: Jan

I just hope I never get a doctor like him. Jan H

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Bob Aragon <robwalkingeagle@ yahoo.com>wrote:

> I cringe when House is abusing vicodin. He cant even pee in one episode. He

> does have a lot of liver cases, though. Sharon and I always yell in unison

> " LIVER DISEASE " when we recognize the signs.

>

> Love, Bobby

>

> " I will meet your judgement and distance with love and open arms when you

> come back. "

> Mackensie

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Jackie Ellermann <jckellermann@ yahoo.com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 5:34:26 PM

> Subject: Re: Jan

>

>

> I love to watch " House " . It seems like every episode is about liver

> disease. We had asked my husband's transplant drs about either one of our

> sons being tested as a partial donor, but they told us that since my husband

> is 65 he would require a whole liver. Well, no problem. We have identical

> twins. If we had House for a dr, he would take a right lobe from one, left

> lobe from the other and, voila, a whole liver! Everybody wins! LOL.

> Jackie

>

>

>

> From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>

> Subject: Jan

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 1:29 PM

>

>

>

> The doctor is trying to fiqure this all out.

> I have a few other medical problems...it is more

> difficult when someone has multiple medical things.

> I think I will request to see " HOUSE " ...anyone ever

> watch that show? Don't watch much TV myself...but,

> like to watch that one every now and again.

>

> Jan, you are like a medical wonder to me. You definitely

> would benefit from HOUSE being your doctor. He cures

> everyone but himself. They come in there with tons of

> medical problems and goes out with only one diagnosis

> that somehow is either cured or can be treated for.

>

>

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These words that the drs write can really cost us.

Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

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> From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>

> Subject: Jan

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 1:29 PM

>

>

>

> The doctor is trying to fiqure this all out.

> I have a few other medical problems...it is more

> difficult when someone has multiple medical things.

> I think I will request to see " HOUSE " ...anyone ever

> watch that show? Don't watch much TV myself...but,

> like to watch that one every now and again.

>

> Jan, you are like a medical wonder to me. You definitely

> would benefit from HOUSE being your doctor. He cures

> everyone but himself. They come in there with tons of

> medical problems and goes out with only one diagnosis

> that somehow is either cured or can be treated for.

>

>

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I had a doctor write in my chart that I abused drugs when the only drugs I

had taken were the ones he had prescribed for me. He had moved from one

clinic to another. I decided when I found out what he had done that I

wanted a different doctor. So, I went to the clinic he had practiced in

formerly. They had somehow gotten my records from the first doctor, and

refused to see me until I signed a release of information for the false

records they already had. All this, while they knew the doctor was a drug

addict himself which is why they fired him from their clinic. Jan H

> These words that the drs write can really cost us.

>

>

>

> Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

>

> Love, Lyncia

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> > From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>

> > Subject: Jan

> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 1:29 PM

> >

> >

> >

> > The doctor is trying to fiqure this all out.

> > I have a few other medical problems...it is more

> > difficult when someone has multiple medical things.

> > I think I will request to see " HOUSE " ...anyone ever

> > watch that show? Don't watch much TV myself...but,

> > like to watch that one every now and again.

> >

> > Jan, you are like a medical wonder to me. You definitely

> > would benefit from HOUSE being your doctor. He cures

> > everyone but himself. They come in there with tons of

> > medical problems and goes out with only one diagnosis

> > that somehow is either cured or can be treated for.

> >

> >

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bobby ,can they wait that long to bill you??? thats seems crazy you did say the

summer before last right. i would tell them you will get it the summer after

next since it took this long to bill me. this same thing or at least it sounds

it to me, happened to bobby glenn last year..right about this time of year, he

couldnt swallow,couldnt hardly speak, he was scared and in terrable pain, he

thought it was infection from the scope they had done in dec. they found no

strep, nothing but they had to force the tongue depresser to even see past the

swelling.gave him liquid hydrocodone, even though they was told he had liver

didease and sent us home. then this yr. ,well last in oct. dr. riccio found a

hernia in his throat.has him on gerd med. i think it was caused from the

acid,but i am not sure. i know it was an er bill for no diagnose though,i feel

if my tax dollars put you thru school, i come to you and you cant find out whats

wrong why the heck should i pay you, i am willing to pay half, they should eat

the rest. when bobby had the tumor removed from his neck several yrs. back, it

was the size of a hardball the dr. said after he got it out, it was pressing on

his spinal colum, no cancer but it had to go. anyways,the first surgeon we saw,

waited 2 hours in the waiting room, cauky fool walks in...doesnt even touch

bobby glenn nor look at his neck ..nothing, has the mri in his hand, says I DONT

KNOW WHAT THIS IS MR. MORRIS BUT I AM NOT TOUCHING IT,i suggest you go to the

spinal center in lv. (we went to nashvile had it removed by the sugeron who

fused my neck wonderful man) then had the go-nads to sent us an ential office

visit bill. i called them up mad as crap.i said whats this bill for, the

pleasure of sitting in your drafty moldy smelling office waiting room for two

hours, just to be told he wouldnt touch it??yup mad i was. so after about 20

mints. of trying to get her to see my point of veiw, she said mrs. morris just

disregard the bill, i said thank you mam, now i am writing you a check and

mailing it today for 1/2 of this bill. she said no and i said yes, i am a

principal girl, we took up a pt. slot, so i am willing to pay that part, but not

the drs part. so we agreed. now remind you i have NEVER been able to pull that

one off again lol. but it was nice to be HEARD for once. much love a very long

winded barby teehee

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> > From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>

> > Subject: Jan

> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 1:29 PM

> >

> >

> >

> > The doctor is trying to fiqure this all out.

> > I have a few other medical problems...it is more

> > difficult when someone has multiple medical things.

> > I think I will request to see " HOUSE " ...anyone ever

> > watch that show? Don't watch much TV myself...but,

> > like to watch that one every now and again.

> >

> > Jan, you are like a medical wonder to me. You definitely

> > would benefit from HOUSE being your doctor. He cures

> > everyone but himself. They come in there with tons of

> > medical problems and goes out with only one diagnosis

> > that somehow is either cured or can be treated for.

> >

> >

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i am sorry that happened to you jan!! being labeled isnt fun i know that girl!!

much love!!!!

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> > > From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>

> > > Subject: Jan

> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 1:29 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The doctor is trying to fiqure this all out.

> > > I have a few other medical problems...it is more

> > > difficult when someone has multiple medical things.

> > > I think I will request to see " HOUSE " ...anyone ever

> > > watch that show? Don't watch much TV myself...but,

> > > like to watch that one every now and again.

> > >

> > > Jan, you are like a medical wonder to me. You definitely

> > > would benefit from HOUSE being your doctor. He cures

> > > everyone but himself. They come in there with tons of

> > > medical problems and goes out with only one diagnosis

> > > that somehow is either cured or can be treated for.

> > >

> > >

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I agree with Bobby. I have used mine in Pennslyvania and North Carolina....and I

live in Ohio. Sharon's right....in Ohio,it goes with the person,not nessesarily

the car. I have 2 placards...keep 1 in the car and 1 in my purse.

 

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

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To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 1:30:04 AM

Subject: Re: Jan

 

I assume that you would not be messed with if you park in Colorado in a handicap

place with an Arizona placard. I worked for Denver parking management for 4

years before going back to parks and rec, and the ticket writers would not give

any kind of ticket to a car with a handicap placard, and Sharon says that the

placard goes with the person, not the car. This is so if you get a ride from a

friend, then the placard can be used in that car, and so on and so on. In

Denver, we have 4 hours free metered parking for handicap placards and plates.

Love, Bobby

" I will meet your judgement and distance with love and open arms when you come

back. "

Mackensie

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From: Jan Holman <janholmangmail (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 10:53:54 PM

Subject: Re: Jan

Arizona also has handicapped plates, but since I don't have a car in my

name, I can't get them on the car I drive. Does anyone know about using them

in states other than the one issued? Jan H

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Bob Aragon <robwalkingeagle@ yahoo.com>wrote:

> Abijann, I would like to put my two cents worth. When Sharon started

> falling, we got her a handicap placard, and then we got her handicap plates.

> She is only allowed one placard and one set of plates, so we put the plates

> on her car, and use the placard for the truck. The only thing required in

> the state of Colorado is a signed form from her doctor, and present that

> form at the time of purchase at the DMV. Hope all is well, and you both have

> a nice Easter. Love, Bobby and Sharon

>

> " I will meet your judgement and distance with love and open arms when you

> come back. "

> Mackensie

>

>

>

>

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> From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 11:32:55 AM

> Subject: Jan

>

>

> Thanks for your info. I should have just taken it out

> to the place we got our driver license and asked them

> about it. Surely, a patient should be able to get

> a placard without the doctor being present in front

> of a notary to sign the form. Don't need it now,

> but in the future, might have to have it for him.

>

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Yes, Stover Candy company makes a sugar free

chocolate candy rabbit. It is milk chocolate, though...

can't get it in white chocolate.

Husband came down with a very bad cold. He is on

antibiotics now that has me quite worried...but he

has to take them. Just holding my breath till he gets

through this. With all his medical problems...everything

is always a turmoil to try to do anything that may help him.

He belongs in a Bubble. They used to put him in the

hospital right away...now, they try to keep him out of the

germ, bacterial/virus infected place. No win, either way.

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My prayers and love are with you.  Hugs...............Lyncia

Thanks for this day and for my tomorrows .

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

From: abijann <no_reply >

Subject: Jan

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 5:01 PM

 

Yes, Stover Candy company makes a sugar free

chocolate candy rabbit. It is milk chocolate, though...

can't get it in white chocolate.

Husband came down with a very bad cold. He is on

antibiotics now that has me quite worried...but he

has to take them. Just holding my breath till he gets

through this. With all his medical problems...everythi ng

is always a turmoil to try to do anything that may help him.

He belongs in a Bubble. They used to put him in the

hospital right away...now, they try to keep him out of the

germ, bacterial/virus infected place. No win, either way.

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My prayers and love are with you.  Hugs...............Lyncia

Thanks for this day and for my tomorrows .

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

From: abijann <no_reply >

Subject: Jan

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 5:01 PM

 

Yes, Stover Candy company makes a sugar free

chocolate candy rabbit. It is milk chocolate, though...

can't get it in white chocolate.

Husband came down with a very bad cold. He is on

antibiotics now that has me quite worried...but he

has to take them. Just holding my breath till he gets

through this. With all his medical problems...everythi ng

is always a turmoil to try to do anything that may help him.

He belongs in a Bubble. They used to put him in the

hospital right away...now, they try to keep him out of the

germ, bacterial/virus infected place. No win, either way.

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Jan, I know this wasn't directed to me, but my spleen is also enlarged. It

is due to protal hypertension in my case. Even though my cirrhosis isn't

very advanced, it has already affected my protal vein and therefore causes

blood to back up into my spleen and causes it to be enlarged. At my most

recent exam, the doctor did indicate my spleen was a bit larger than last

July and my liver was a bit smaller, which he says is normal for advancing

cirrhosis when your portal vein is involved.

>

>

> Hmmmmm. Well, I will never be on a transplant list, and he probably knew

> that when he said it because he told me to find a donor. But, I left him

> after the first year and haven't really had one since on a full time basis.

> Have been to transplant center for consultations, and the subject hasn't

> come up. My cardio does encourage me to get out and do whatever I can so I

> don't go into a depression. Maybe he just didn't know what he was talking

> about. But, others here have said they sometimes have to wear masks and

> watch out for animals. I don't know. As I said, even if he was right, it

> wasn't worth it to follow what he said. My feeling was I could just as well

> have died right away if I couldn't do the things I liked to do. I haven't

> had all the blood work done to check my melf for quite a while, asked for

> it

> a month ago, but it wasn't done. Last I checked, i thought it was 16, but

> not sure that was right. Doesn't really matter with the anemia and kidney

> problems I am having right now. Why is your spleen enlarged? Jan H

>

> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Lyncia

<lmlangdon@...<lmlangdon%40yahoo.com>>

> wrote:

>

> > How strange....I am on the transplant list and last time my doctor told

> me

> > to go and have fun. Take cruises, airplanes, anything I wanted to that

> > wouldn't put pressure on my enlarged spleen..................MELD score

> of

> > 10. Hum

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> >

> >

> > Thanks for this day and for my tomorrows .

> >

> > Love, Lyncia

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Yes, Stover Candy company makes a sugar free

> > > chocolate candy rabbit. It is milk chocolate, though...

> > > can't get it in white chocolate.

> > >

> > > Husband came down with a very bad cold. He is on

> > > antibiotics now that has me quite worried...but he

> > > has to take them. Just holding my breath till he gets

> > > through this. With all his medical problems...everythi ng

> > > is always a turmoil to try to do anything that may help him.

> > > He belongs in a Bubble. They used to put him in the

> > > hospital right away...now, they try to keep him out of the

> > > germ, bacterial/virus infected place. No win, either way.

> > >

> > >

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Thank you!  Hugs and hugs..............

Thanks for this day and for my tomorrows .

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

> > >

> > > > I never ate much chocolate until this pass year.

> > > > My favorite, though, is the white chocolate... .that

> > > > probably has no benefits except gaining inches; if that

> > > > is a benefit? I did find that they had a rabbit this

> > > > year that was " sugar free " ..my husbands like to chew the

> > > > ears of a chocolate rabbit.

> > > >

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> > > > web address:

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I don't think bookkeeping is totally out of date, but when I was first told

to change an entry instead of making a correcting entry, I was

flabbergasted. You can't change entries. That leads to fraud. I never was

any good at typing until I took a course on our first computer Haven't seen

those light bulbs but hope they are better than the curlicue ones which make

it impossible for me to see things clearly.

About 15 years ago a neighbor gave us an old encylopedia set. The word

computer wasn't even in it. It think the publishing date was 1943, Granted

it is a different world. But as far as technology is concerned, would you

want to go back. I know I wouldn't want to wash my clothes in my mother's

old wringer washer, even she got rid of that, and rinse them by hand, hang

on line to dry? I like my cell phone better than the old hand crank one we

had when I was little, don't like to hand wash dishes, wish they would find

a way to take them out of the dishwasher and put them back on the shelf or

in the drawers. And, even though we leave our A/C on 82, I wouldn't be

living here in the summer without it.

My daughter used to call me an old fogie who wore old fogie clothes and had

an old fogie hair style. Now her daughter says the same to her. Love it.

Payback. And, I get to talk to my granddaughter online. Couldn't do that

if we went back either. But, I would like to go back to the value system

we had then. Jan H

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:20 PM, abijann <no_reply > wrote:

> I had courses like bookkeeping, shorthand, and many

> other business related things. Shorthand is the thing

> of the past since they use recorders now, bookkeeping is

> totally outdated, they use xerox machines to make copies...

> doing away with carbon copies...about the only course I

> took that I still use is one I thought would be a waste

> of time and that is typing. Computers were not even heard

> of then. Feel like a live in a world that totally

> changed so fast, it is like living in a totally different

> one. Now they have invented light bulbs that look like

> a sheet of paper that can hang in your windows so they

> turn on when the sunlight stops coming through...It's

> amazing and yet, kind of scary.

>

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I agree witih what you girls have been been saying about " liberated " women,

but only to a degree. I don't think anyone forced women to go to work

outside the home and I don't think it was economically necessary. Women

went to work enmass during WWII because it was their way of helping with the

war effort. The income was nice, so they decided to stay after the men came

home. Thus, we have the introduction of the two income family. Families

bought things they wanted, not what they needed. As more and more things

were purchased, that second income became more and more necessary. We could

go back to one income families in a week right now. It would just mean

having our needs supplied, not our wants. Ok, off my soapbox now!

Many hugs...............

Diane

http://auntdisexperimentallife.blogspot.com/

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>

> I live in a one story house, made of concrete blocks. Would like to have a

> basement but they don't usually put them in around here. I agree women and

> society had it better before women were forced by economics to get a job

> outside the home if they wanted one or not. After I was " liberated " I had

> to lift typewriters and calculators. I felt more liberated before I was

> liberated.

> Since we only have the one story, we don't need a ramp, but we do have

> ridges at the doorways that would make it hard to get over in a regular

> wheel chair. No bathtub, so I use a chair in the shower. Really helps. Jan

> H

>

> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 6:25 AM, abijann

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> wrote:

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> > Actually, I like the wringer washer with the roller to

> > put the clothes through...you don't waste as much water or

> > detergent. It is refreshing to hang the clothes on the line and smell

> > them when brought into the house. I still do all our dishes

> > by hand. Wanted a dish washer for years, but we had no room

> > in our small kitchen to have one. All the technical

> > advances have forced women out of the home and into jobs.

> > I like the days when women stayed home and did the most

> > important job they could ever have in their life and that

> > was being with the family and raising the children the

> > " right " way. They say women are liberated. The only thing

> > I see is that they just added to the job they already have.

> > (like having two jobs) They can retire from the outside the

> > home job, but still have a job of doing repeated things throughout their

> > life at home. As long as the women cooks, cleans, scrubs, run errands and

> > all the boring wonderful stuff to get excited about every day of their

> > lives; their more like maids.

> > Women do what they have to do, do what they really don't

> > want to do, and if they are not completely wore out by

> > the time they get to do what they want...they no longer

> > care about it.

> > I wouldn't survive without an air conditioner...our home

> > isn't double story but is built into a bank so the

> > basement is open to the front with door exit and the upper

> > part you almost suffocate in if you didn't have one.

> > No trees around the house.

> > I think that if anyone has a home, they should be sure

> > to put in a ramp instead of steps, outside to door.

> > So many homes do not have one and when bringing someone

> > home from the hospital...it saves alot of frustration.

> > That and side rails for the bathtub. If we could build

> > a home again...everything would be on one level.

> > Hope this makes you smile.

> >

> >

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