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YAY!!!!!  Progress!!!!

 

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

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To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 3:07:48 AM

Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

 

Thanks so very much, Jan...

Even better yet, he came home from his meeting and even told me the list

of people that were sending me their best regards and support. When I

asked him why (yes I do know them all), he actually told me that he also

expressed his fear to them all tonight.

Gloria

Gloria - I am so happy for you that things are turning around. I know from

experience that it is better to have no support and have no one to expect

it from than have a source from which support should come and it not only

doesn't come, but just adds more problems. I am sure your husband will end

up much happier to if he can finish as you said, coming out of the cave.

Jan H

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote:

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

>

>

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YAY!!!!!  Progress!!!!

 

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 3:07:48 AM

Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

 

Thanks so very much, Jan...

Even better yet, he came home from his meeting and even told me the list

of people that were sending me their best regards and support. When I

asked him why (yes I do know them all), he actually told me that he also

expressed his fear to them all tonight.

Gloria

Gloria - I am so happy for you that things are turning around. I know from

experience that it is better to have no support and have no one to expect

it from than have a source from which support should come and it not only

doesn't come, but just adds more problems. I am sure your husband will end

up much happier to if he can finish as you said, coming out of the cave.

Jan H

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote:

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

>

>

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YAY!!!!!  Progress!!!!

 

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 3:07:48 AM

Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

 

Thanks so very much, Jan...

Even better yet, he came home from his meeting and even told me the list

of people that were sending me their best regards and support. When I

asked him why (yes I do know them all), he actually told me that he also

expressed his fear to them all tonight.

Gloria

Gloria - I am so happy for you that things are turning around. I know from

experience that it is better to have no support and have no one to expect

it from than have a source from which support should come and it not only

doesn't come, but just adds more problems. I am sure your husband will end

up much happier to if he can finish as you said, coming out of the cave.

Jan H

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote:

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

>

>

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Lyncia......you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude things to

me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at me...I mean

yelled!!!...in the parking lot ..because i had taken a handicapped space( I'm on

disability and have a tag for a host of reasons including severe arthritis)

Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others to hear That " Fat didn't count " !

!  I didn't even get mad at him or cry or anything...he was so ignorant!! and

my oldest son simply just doesn't care about Ed's cirrohsis or my

problems.....he and his wife never call,never ask Ed how he is,never visit him

when he's in the hospital etc. Does it hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't

change anything.  Our family on this forum understands everything we go

through...it's wht I love it here....and many of our situations are so very

similar.

 

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM

Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

 

It's a hard time right now.  I am taking off in the car and don't know where I

am going or anything.

 

PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away    even your

children.

 

 

Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

Subject: Gloria's Update

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

 

Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

emotional and busy time.

Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

showed clearly.

It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

knight!!!

So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

highest regard for all of you!!!!

Gloria

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Lyncia......you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude things to

me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at me...I mean

yelled!!!...in the parking lot ..because i had taken a handicapped space( I'm on

disability and have a tag for a host of reasons including severe arthritis)

Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others to hear That " Fat didn't count " !

!  I didn't even get mad at him or cry or anything...he was so ignorant!! and

my oldest son simply just doesn't care about Ed's cirrohsis or my

problems.....he and his wife never call,never ask Ed how he is,never visit him

when he's in the hospital etc. Does it hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't

change anything.  Our family on this forum understands everything we go

through...it's wht I love it here....and many of our situations are so very

similar.

 

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM

Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

 

It's a hard time right now.  I am taking off in the car and don't know where I

am going or anything.

 

PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away    even your

children.

 

 

Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

Subject: Gloria's Update

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

 

Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

emotional and busy time.

Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

showed clearly.

It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

knight!!!

So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

highest regard for all of you!!!!

Gloria

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Lyncia......you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude things to

me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at me...I mean

yelled!!!...in the parking lot ..because i had taken a handicapped space( I'm on

disability and have a tag for a host of reasons including severe arthritis)

Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others to hear That " Fat didn't count " !

!  I didn't even get mad at him or cry or anything...he was so ignorant!! and

my oldest son simply just doesn't care about Ed's cirrohsis or my

problems.....he and his wife never call,never ask Ed how he is,never visit him

when he's in the hospital etc. Does it hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't

change anything.  Our family on this forum understands everything we go

through...it's wht I love it here....and many of our situations are so very

similar.

 

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM

Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

 

It's a hard time right now.  I am taking off in the car and don't know where I

am going or anything.

 

PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away    even your

children.

 

 

Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

Subject: Gloria's Update

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

 

Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

emotional and busy time.

Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

showed clearly.

It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

knight!!!

So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

highest regard for all of you!!!!

Gloria

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I am tire and I am through

Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

>

> From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Gloria's Update

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

>

>

>

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

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I am tire and I am through

Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

>

> From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Gloria's Update

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

>

>

>

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

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I am tire and I am through

Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

>

> From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Gloria's Update

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

>

>

>

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

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Lynicia - if you can't make it through by yourself, I am sure each one of

here will give you a little bit of our strength and stick it outness and you

can make it. We all love you. Jan H

> I am tire and I am through

>

>

>

> Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

>

> Love, Lyncia

>

>

>

>

> >

> > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> > Subject: Gloria's Update

> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> > emotional and busy time.

> > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> > showed clearly.

> > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> > knight!!!

> > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> > highest regard for all of you!!!!

> > Gloria

> >

> >

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Lynicia - if you can't make it through by yourself, I am sure each one of

here will give you a little bit of our strength and stick it outness and you

can make it. We all love you. Jan H

> I am tire and I am through

>

>

>

> Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

>

> Love, Lyncia

>

>

>

>

> >

> > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> > Subject: Gloria's Update

> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> > emotional and busy time.

> > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> > showed clearly.

> > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> > knight!!!

> > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> > highest regard for all of you!!!!

> > Gloria

> >

> >

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Lynicia - if you can't make it through by yourself, I am sure each one of

here will give you a little bit of our strength and stick it outness and you

can make it. We all love you. Jan H

> I am tire and I am through

>

>

>

> Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

>

> Love, Lyncia

>

>

>

>

> >

> > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> > Subject: Gloria's Update

> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> > emotional and busy time.

> > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> > showed clearly.

> > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> > knight!!!

> > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> > highest regard for all of you!!!!

> > Gloria

> >

> >

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Talk to us some more,sweetie...get it all out.

 

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 9:20:55 PM

Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

 

I am tire and I am through

Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

>

> From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Gloria's Update

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

>

>

>

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

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Talk to us some more,sweetie...get it all out.

 

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 9:20:55 PM

Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

 

I am tire and I am through

Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

>

> From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Gloria's Update

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

>

>

>

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

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Talk to us some more,sweetie...get it all out.

 

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 9:20:55 PM

Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

 

I am tire and I am through

Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

 

Love, Lyncia 

 

 

>

> From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Gloria's Update

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

>

>

>

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

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Jill

It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap " signs!

Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties when I get out

of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to buy the truck;

because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the old T-Bird. Believe

it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier on me, except not sure how

much longer the door will handle it, without getting it fixed LOL Also, I have

a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in the back so that I can have a nap if

driving gets to be too much.

Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not judge.

After all, isn't the world all about them???

Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs) have

absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can not

understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that they

asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a some

humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it just

confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying about them

at all.

Gloria

________________________________

Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude things to

me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at me...I mean

yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a handicapped space( I'm

on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons including severe arthritis)

Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others to hear That " Fat didn't count " !

! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or anything...he was so ignorant!! and my

oldest son simply just doesn't care about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he

and his wife never call,never ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the

hospital etc. Does it hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything.

Our family on this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love

it here....and many of our situations are so very similar.

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM

Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know where I

am going or anything.

PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your

children.

Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

Love, Lyncia

From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

Subject: Gloria's Update

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

emotional and busy time.

Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

showed clearly.

It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

knight!!!

So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

highest regard for all of you!!!!

Gloria

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Jill

It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap " signs!

Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties when I get out

of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to buy the truck;

because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the old T-Bird. Believe

it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier on me, except not sure how

much longer the door will handle it, without getting it fixed LOL Also, I have

a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in the back so that I can have a nap if

driving gets to be too much.

Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not judge.

After all, isn't the world all about them???

Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs) have

absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can not

understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that they

asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a some

humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it just

confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying about them

at all.

Gloria

________________________________

Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude things to

me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at me...I mean

yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a handicapped space( I'm

on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons including severe arthritis)

Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others to hear That " Fat didn't count " !

! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or anything...he was so ignorant!! and my

oldest son simply just doesn't care about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he

and his wife never call,never ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the

hospital etc. Does it hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything.

Our family on this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love

it here....and many of our situations are so very similar.

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM

Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know where I

am going or anything.

PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your

children.

Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

Love, Lyncia

From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

Subject: Gloria's Update

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

emotional and busy time.

Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

showed clearly.

It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

knight!!!

So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

highest regard for all of you!!!!

Gloria

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Lyncia

I'm on board for that plan!!! I'm already sending you as much strength and

spirit as I can! Can you begin to feel it??

Luv Gloria

________________________________

Lynicia - if you can't make it through by yourself, I am sure each one of

here will give you a little bit of our strength and stick it outness and you

can make it. We all love you. Jan H

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

> I am tire and I am through

>

>

>

> Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

>

> Love, Lyncia

>

>

>

>

> >

> > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> > Subject: Gloria's Update

> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> > emotional and busy time.

> > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> > showed clearly.

> > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> > knight!!!

> > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> > highest regard for all of you!!!!

> > Gloria

> >

> >

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Lyncia

I'm on board for that plan!!! I'm already sending you as much strength and

spirit as I can! Can you begin to feel it??

Luv Gloria

________________________________

Lynicia - if you can't make it through by yourself, I am sure each one of

here will give you a little bit of our strength and stick it outness and you

can make it. We all love you. Jan H

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

> I am tire and I am through

>

>

>

> Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

>

> Love, Lyncia

>

>

>

>

> >

> > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> > Subject: Gloria's Update

> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> > emotional and busy time.

> > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> > showed clearly.

> > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> > knight!!!

> > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> > highest regard for all of you!!!!

> > Gloria

> >

> >

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Lyncia

I'm on board for that plan!!! I'm already sending you as much strength and

spirit as I can! Can you begin to feel it??

Luv Gloria

________________________________

Lynicia - if you can't make it through by yourself, I am sure each one of

here will give you a little bit of our strength and stick it outness and you

can make it. We all love you. Jan H

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

> I am tire and I am through

>

>

>

> Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

>

> Love, Lyncia

>

>

>

>

> >

> > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> > Subject: Gloria's Update

> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> > emotional and busy time.

> > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> > showed clearly.

> > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> > knight!!!

> > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> > highest regard for all of you!!!!

> > Gloria

> >

> >

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I just got my second permanent disable placard. But, I frequently forget to

put it up there. I don't have a car in my name, so I have to hang it on the

rear view mirror. If it were my car, I would have a bumper sticker made

saying, " yes I am disabled and one of my disabilities is a bad memory.

Sorry if I forgot to put it up. " I get some nasty looks when I do forget

sometimes. Especially at the post office where people are going in and out

all the time. I also use the electric carts in stores. And sometimes I get

looks when I start using one since I had no trouble walking into the store.

But, by the time I leave, from sitting in the same position and reaching to

get things, then I can barely get out of the seat, so I get no looks then.

Jan H

> Jill

>

> It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap "

> signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties

> when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to

> buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the

> old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier

> on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without

> getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in

> the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much.

>

> Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not

> judge. After all, isn't the world all about them???

>

> Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs)

> have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can

> not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that

> they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a

> some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it

> just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying

> about them at all.

>

> Gloria

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

>

> Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude

> things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at

> me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a

> handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons

> including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others

> to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or

> anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't care

> about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never

> ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it

> hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on

> this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it

> here....and many of our situations are so very similar.

>

>

> Love,Jill

>

> We don't remember days, we remember moments.

> Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take

> our breath away.

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM

> Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

>

>

> It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know

> where I am going or anything.

>

> PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your

> children.

>

>

>

>

> Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

>

> Love, Lyncia

>

>

>

>

>

> From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Gloria's Update

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

>

>

>

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

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I just got my second permanent disable placard. But, I frequently forget to

put it up there. I don't have a car in my name, so I have to hang it on the

rear view mirror. If it were my car, I would have a bumper sticker made

saying, " yes I am disabled and one of my disabilities is a bad memory.

Sorry if I forgot to put it up. " I get some nasty looks when I do forget

sometimes. Especially at the post office where people are going in and out

all the time. I also use the electric carts in stores. And sometimes I get

looks when I start using one since I had no trouble walking into the store.

But, by the time I leave, from sitting in the same position and reaching to

get things, then I can barely get out of the seat, so I get no looks then.

Jan H

> Jill

>

> It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap "

> signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties

> when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to

> buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the

> old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier

> on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without

> getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in

> the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much.

>

> Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not

> judge. After all, isn't the world all about them???

>

> Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs)

> have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can

> not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that

> they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a

> some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it

> just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying

> about them at all.

>

> Gloria

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

>

> Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude

> things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at

> me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a

> handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons

> including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others

> to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or

> anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't care

> about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never

> ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it

> hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on

> this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it

> here....and many of our situations are so very similar.

>

>

> Love,Jill

>

> We don't remember days, we remember moments.

> Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take

> our breath away.

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM

> Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

>

>

> It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know

> where I am going or anything.

>

> PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your

> children.

>

>

>

>

> Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

>

> Love, Lyncia

>

>

>

>

>

> From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Gloria's Update

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

>

>

>

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

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I just got my second permanent disable placard. But, I frequently forget to

put it up there. I don't have a car in my name, so I have to hang it on the

rear view mirror. If it were my car, I would have a bumper sticker made

saying, " yes I am disabled and one of my disabilities is a bad memory.

Sorry if I forgot to put it up. " I get some nasty looks when I do forget

sometimes. Especially at the post office where people are going in and out

all the time. I also use the electric carts in stores. And sometimes I get

looks when I start using one since I had no trouble walking into the store.

But, by the time I leave, from sitting in the same position and reaching to

get things, then I can barely get out of the seat, so I get no looks then.

Jan H

> Jill

>

> It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap "

> signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties

> when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to

> buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the

> old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier

> on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without

> getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in

> the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much.

>

> Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not

> judge. After all, isn't the world all about them???

>

> Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs)

> have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can

> not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that

> they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a

> some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it

> just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying

> about them at all.

>

> Gloria

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

>

> Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude

> things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at

> me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a

> handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons

> including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others

> to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or

> anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't care

> about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never

> ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it

> hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on

> this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it

> here....and many of our situations are so very similar.

>

>

> Love,Jill

>

> We don't remember days, we remember moments.

> Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take

> our breath away.

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM

> Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

>

>

> It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know

> where I am going or anything.

>

> PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your

> children.

>

>

>

>

> Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

>

> Love, Lyncia

>

>

>

>

>

> From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Gloria's Update

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

>

>

>

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

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Thanks for that information on the store carts, Jan.

I know that for sure that the next time I have a reason to go to Home Depot, I

will certainly get a cart. That store is so huge, that I barely make it to the

reception desk just inside the store. However, as it stands now, I can still

make it at least through the middle aisles of Wal-Mart, leaning on a push cart.

However, I often wondered about getting around on the store carts and now I know

that it's probably just as bad as leaning on the buggy.

Gloria

________________________________

I just got my second permanent disable placard. But, I frequently forget to

put it up there. I don't have a car in my name, so I have to hang it on the

rear view mirror. If it were my car, I would have a bumper sticker made

saying, " yes I am disabled and one of my disabilities is a bad memory.

Sorry if I forgot to put it up. " I get some nasty looks when I do forget

sometimes. Especially at the post office where people are going in and out

all the time. I also use the electric carts in stores. And sometimes I get

looks when I start using one since I had no trouble walking into the store.

But, by the time I leave, from sitting in the same position and reaching to

get things, then I can barely get out of the seat, so I get no looks then.

Jan H

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote:

> Jill

>

> It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap "

> signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties

> when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to

> buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the

> old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier

> on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without

> getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in

> the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much.

>

> Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not

> judge. After all, isn't the world all about them???

>

> Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs)

> have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can

> not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that

> they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a

> some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it

> just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying

> about them at all.

>

> Gloria

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

>

>

> Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude

> things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at

> me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a

> handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons

> including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others

> to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or

> anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't care

> about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never

> ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it

> hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on

> this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it

> here....and many of our situations are so very similar.

>

>

> Love,Jill

>

> We don't remember days, we remember moments.

> Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take

> our breath away.

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM

> Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

>

>

> It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know

> where I am going or anything.

>

> PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your

> children.

>

>

>

>

> Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

>

> Love, Lyncia

>

>

>

>

>

> From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Gloria's Update

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

>

>

>

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

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Thanks for that information on the store carts, Jan.

I know that for sure that the next time I have a reason to go to Home Depot, I

will certainly get a cart. That store is so huge, that I barely make it to the

reception desk just inside the store. However, as it stands now, I can still

make it at least through the middle aisles of Wal-Mart, leaning on a push cart.

However, I often wondered about getting around on the store carts and now I know

that it's probably just as bad as leaning on the buggy.

Gloria

________________________________

I just got my second permanent disable placard. But, I frequently forget to

put it up there. I don't have a car in my name, so I have to hang it on the

rear view mirror. If it were my car, I would have a bumper sticker made

saying, " yes I am disabled and one of my disabilities is a bad memory.

Sorry if I forgot to put it up. " I get some nasty looks when I do forget

sometimes. Especially at the post office where people are going in and out

all the time. I also use the electric carts in stores. And sometimes I get

looks when I start using one since I had no trouble walking into the store.

But, by the time I leave, from sitting in the same position and reaching to

get things, then I can barely get out of the seat, so I get no looks then.

Jan H

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote:

> Jill

>

> It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap "

> signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties

> when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to

> buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the

> old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier

> on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without

> getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in

> the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much.

>

> Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not

> judge. After all, isn't the world all about them???

>

> Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs)

> have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can

> not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that

> they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a

> some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it

> just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying

> about them at all.

>

> Gloria

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

>

>

> Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude

> things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at

> me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a

> handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons

> including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others

> to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or

> anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't care

> about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never

> ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it

> hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on

> this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it

> here....and many of our situations are so very similar.

>

>

> Love,Jill

>

> We don't remember days, we remember moments.

> Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take

> our breath away.

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM

> Subject: Re: Gloria's Update

>

>

> It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know

> where I am going or anything.

>

> PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your

> children.

>

>

>

>

> Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows

>

> Love, Lyncia

>

>

>

>

>

> From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Gloria's Update

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM

>

>

>

> Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely

> emotional and busy time.

> Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can

> understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear

> himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife

> might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not

> easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that

> things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury

> himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile,

> I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he

> turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind

> sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus)

> We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is

> a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest

> that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least

> not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked

> at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he

> had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it

> showed clearly.

> It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is

> beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with

> a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear -

> I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He

> just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will

> regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was

> definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to

> come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white

> knight!!!

> So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising

> and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!!

> Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the

> highest regard for all of you!!!!

> Gloria

>

>

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