Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Gloria, I didn't mean to imply that the carts aren't good. I sometimes hurt by the time I get to the cart. There is no way I could shop very long without them, even pushing a cart. I will push a cart if electric carts aren't available, but that really limits me as to how far I can go and the pain which eventually means I have to start. I love the electric carts, they make me feel as if I can really live an almost normal life when it comes to shopping. Jan H > Thanks for that information on the store carts, Jan. > > I know that for sure that the next time I have a reason to go to Home > Depot, I will certainly get a cart. That store is so huge, that I barely > make it to the reception desk just inside the store. However, as it stands > now, I can still make it at least through the middle aisles of Wal-Mart, > leaning on a push cart. However, I often wondered about getting around on > the store carts and now I know that it's probably just as bad as leaning on > the buggy. > > Gloria > > > > > ________________________________ > > > I just got my second permanent disable placard. But, I frequently forget > to > put it up there. I don't have a car in my name, so I have to hang it on > the > rear view mirror. If it were my car, I would have a bumper sticker made > saying, " yes I am disabled and one of my disabilities is a bad memory. > Sorry if I forgot to put it up. " I get some nasty looks when I do forget > sometimes. Especially at the post office where people are going in and out > all the time. I also use the electric carts in stores. And sometimes I > get > looks when I start using one since I had no trouble walking into the store. > But, by the time I leave, from sitting in the same position and reaching to > get things, then I can barely get out of the seat, so I get no looks then. > Jan H > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote: > > > Jill > > > > It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap " > > signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties > > when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to > > buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of > the > > old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot > easier > > on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without > > getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in > > the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much. > > > > Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not > > judge. After all, isn't the world all about them??? > > > > Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs) > > have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can > > not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me > that > > they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking > a > > some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now > it > > just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying > > about them at all. > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude > > things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at > > me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a > > handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons > > including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for > others > > to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry > or > > anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't > care > > about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never > > ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it > > hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on > > this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it > > here....and many of our situations are so very similar. > > > > > > Love,Jill > > > > We don't remember days, we remember moments. > > Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take > > our breath away. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM > > Subject: Re: Gloria's Update > > > > > > It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know > > where I am going or anything. > > > > PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even > your > > children. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> > > Subject: Gloria's Update > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM > > > > > > > > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely > > emotional and busy time. > > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can > > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear > > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife > > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not > > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that > > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury > > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile, > > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he > > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind > > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus) > > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is > > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest > > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least > > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked > > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he > > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it > > showed clearly. > > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is > > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with > > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear - > > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He > > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will > > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was > > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to > > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white > > knight!!! > > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising > > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!! > > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the > > highest regard for all of you!!!! > > Gloria > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Gloria, I didn't mean to imply that the carts aren't good. I sometimes hurt by the time I get to the cart. There is no way I could shop very long without them, even pushing a cart. I will push a cart if electric carts aren't available, but that really limits me as to how far I can go and the pain which eventually means I have to start. I love the electric carts, they make me feel as if I can really live an almost normal life when it comes to shopping. Jan H > Thanks for that information on the store carts, Jan. > > I know that for sure that the next time I have a reason to go to Home > Depot, I will certainly get a cart. That store is so huge, that I barely > make it to the reception desk just inside the store. However, as it stands > now, I can still make it at least through the middle aisles of Wal-Mart, > leaning on a push cart. However, I often wondered about getting around on > the store carts and now I know that it's probably just as bad as leaning on > the buggy. > > Gloria > > > > > ________________________________ > > > I just got my second permanent disable placard. But, I frequently forget > to > put it up there. I don't have a car in my name, so I have to hang it on > the > rear view mirror. If it were my car, I would have a bumper sticker made > saying, " yes I am disabled and one of my disabilities is a bad memory. > Sorry if I forgot to put it up. " I get some nasty looks when I do forget > sometimes. Especially at the post office where people are going in and out > all the time. I also use the electric carts in stores. And sometimes I > get > looks when I start using one since I had no trouble walking into the store. > But, by the time I leave, from sitting in the same position and reaching to > get things, then I can barely get out of the seat, so I get no looks then. > Jan H > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote: > > > Jill > > > > It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap " > > signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties > > when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to > > buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of > the > > old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot > easier > > on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without > > getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in > > the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much. > > > > Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not > > judge. After all, isn't the world all about them??? > > > > Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs) > > have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can > > not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me > that > > they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking > a > > some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now > it > > just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying > > about them at all. > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude > > things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at > > me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a > > handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons > > including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for > others > > to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry > or > > anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't > care > > about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never > > ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it > > hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on > > this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it > > here....and many of our situations are so very similar. > > > > > > Love,Jill > > > > We don't remember days, we remember moments. > > Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take > > our breath away. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM > > Subject: Re: Gloria's Update > > > > > > It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know > > where I am going or anything. > > > > PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even > your > > children. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> > > Subject: Gloria's Update > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM > > > > > > > > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely > > emotional and busy time. > > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can > > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear > > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife > > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not > > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that > > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury > > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile, > > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he > > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind > > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus) > > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is > > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest > > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least > > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked > > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he > > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it > > showed clearly. > > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is > > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with > > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear - > > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He > > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will > > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was > > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to > > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white > > knight!!! > > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising > > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!! > > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the > > highest regard for all of you!!!! > > Gloria > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Gloria, I didn't mean to imply that the carts aren't good. I sometimes hurt by the time I get to the cart. There is no way I could shop very long without them, even pushing a cart. I will push a cart if electric carts aren't available, but that really limits me as to how far I can go and the pain which eventually means I have to start. I love the electric carts, they make me feel as if I can really live an almost normal life when it comes to shopping. Jan H > Thanks for that information on the store carts, Jan. > > I know that for sure that the next time I have a reason to go to Home > Depot, I will certainly get a cart. That store is so huge, that I barely > make it to the reception desk just inside the store. However, as it stands > now, I can still make it at least through the middle aisles of Wal-Mart, > leaning on a push cart. However, I often wondered about getting around on > the store carts and now I know that it's probably just as bad as leaning on > the buggy. > > Gloria > > > > > ________________________________ > > > I just got my second permanent disable placard. But, I frequently forget > to > put it up there. I don't have a car in my name, so I have to hang it on > the > rear view mirror. If it were my car, I would have a bumper sticker made > saying, " yes I am disabled and one of my disabilities is a bad memory. > Sorry if I forgot to put it up. " I get some nasty looks when I do forget > sometimes. Especially at the post office where people are going in and out > all the time. I also use the electric carts in stores. And sometimes I > get > looks when I start using one since I had no trouble walking into the store. > But, by the time I leave, from sitting in the same position and reaching to > get things, then I can barely get out of the seat, so I get no looks then. > Jan H > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote: > > > Jill > > > > It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap " > > signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties > > when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to > > buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of > the > > old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot > easier > > on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without > > getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in > > the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much. > > > > Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not > > judge. After all, isn't the world all about them??? > > > > Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs) > > have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can > > not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me > that > > they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking > a > > some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now > it > > just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying > > about them at all. > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude > > things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at > > me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a > > handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons > > including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for > others > > to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry > or > > anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't > care > > about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never > > ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it > > hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on > > this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it > > here....and many of our situations are so very similar. > > > > > > Love,Jill > > > > We don't remember days, we remember moments. > > Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take > > our breath away. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM > > Subject: Re: Gloria's Update > > > > > > It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know > > where I am going or anything. > > > > PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even > your > > children. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> > > Subject: Gloria's Update > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM > > > > > > > > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely > > emotional and busy time. > > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can > > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear > > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife > > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not > > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that > > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury > > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile, > > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he > > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind > > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus) > > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is > > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest > > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least > > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked > > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he > > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it > > showed clearly. > > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is > > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with > > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear - > > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He > > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will > > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was > > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to > > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white > > knight!!! > > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising > > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!! > > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the > > highest regard for all of you!!!! > > Gloria > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I'm the same way,Jan. It's just exhausting to shop in the football field of Walmart....I get an electric cart usually...occasionally I can manage with a push cart,but not very often anymore. It's nice not to be completely wiped out from pain after shopping for 45 minutes using a cart!. One time a man came up to us -after getting out of his own truck- when we had parked in a handicapped spot, just as Ed was getting the plackard to hang from the mirror ,...and had the gall to say to him " Oh I was just checking to see if you had a tag " . Ed told him to F_ _ _ Off, that he wasn't the parking lot police and to maybe he should mind his own business!!...Ed being a policeman...was furious! It's funny now...but wasn't then! I love my husband.                                                                           Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 10:56:19 PM Subject: Re: Gloria's Update  I just got my second permanent disable placard. But, I frequently forget to put it up there. I don't have a car in my name, so I have to hang it on the rear view mirror. If it were my car, I would have a bumper sticker made saying, " yes I am disabled and one of my disabilities is a bad memory. Sorry if I forgot to put it up. " I get some nasty looks when I do forget sometimes. Especially at the post office where people are going in and out all the time. I also use the electric carts in stores. And sometimes I get looks when I start using one since I had no trouble walking into the store. But, by the time I leave, from sitting in the same position and reaching to get things, then I can barely get out of the seat, so I get no looks then. Jan H On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote: > Jill > > It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap " > signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties > when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to > buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the > old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier > on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without > getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in > the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much. > > Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not > judge. After all, isn't the world all about them??? > > Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs) > have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can > not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that > they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a > some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it > just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying > about them at all. > > Gloria > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude > things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at > me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a > handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons > including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others > to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or > anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't care > about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never > ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it > hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on > this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it > here....and many of our situations are so very similar. > > > Love,Jill > > We don't remember days, we remember moments. > Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take > our breath away. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM > Subject: Re: Gloria's Update > > > It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know > where I am going or anything. > > PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your > children. > > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> > Subject: Gloria's Update > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM > > > > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely > emotional and busy time. > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile, > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus) > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it > showed clearly. > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear - > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white > knight!!! > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!! > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the > highest regard for all of you!!!! > Gloria > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I'm the same way,Jan. It's just exhausting to shop in the football field of Walmart....I get an electric cart usually...occasionally I can manage with a push cart,but not very often anymore. It's nice not to be completely wiped out from pain after shopping for 45 minutes using a cart!. One time a man came up to us -after getting out of his own truck- when we had parked in a handicapped spot, just as Ed was getting the plackard to hang from the mirror ,...and had the gall to say to him " Oh I was just checking to see if you had a tag " . Ed told him to F_ _ _ Off, that he wasn't the parking lot police and to maybe he should mind his own business!!...Ed being a policeman...was furious! It's funny now...but wasn't then! I love my husband.                                                                           Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 10:56:19 PM Subject: Re: Gloria's Update  I just got my second permanent disable placard. But, I frequently forget to put it up there. I don't have a car in my name, so I have to hang it on the rear view mirror. If it were my car, I would have a bumper sticker made saying, " yes I am disabled and one of my disabilities is a bad memory. Sorry if I forgot to put it up. " I get some nasty looks when I do forget sometimes. Especially at the post office where people are going in and out all the time. I also use the electric carts in stores. And sometimes I get looks when I start using one since I had no trouble walking into the store. But, by the time I leave, from sitting in the same position and reaching to get things, then I can barely get out of the seat, so I get no looks then. Jan H On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote: > Jill > > It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap " > signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties > when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to > buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the > old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier > on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without > getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in > the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much. > > Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not > judge. After all, isn't the world all about them??? > > Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs) > have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can > not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that > they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a > some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it > just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying > about them at all. > > Gloria > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude > things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at > me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a > handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons > including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others > to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or > anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't care > about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never > ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it > hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on > this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it > here....and many of our situations are so very similar. > > > Love,Jill > > We don't remember days, we remember moments. > Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take > our breath away. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM > Subject: Re: Gloria's Update > > > It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know > where I am going or anything. > > PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your > children. > > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> > Subject: Gloria's Update > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM > > > > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely > emotional and busy time. > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile, > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus) > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it > showed clearly. > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear - > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white > knight!!! > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!! > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the > highest regard for all of you!!!! > Gloria > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I'm the same way,Jan. It's just exhausting to shop in the football field of Walmart....I get an electric cart usually...occasionally I can manage with a push cart,but not very often anymore. It's nice not to be completely wiped out from pain after shopping for 45 minutes using a cart!. One time a man came up to us -after getting out of his own truck- when we had parked in a handicapped spot, just as Ed was getting the plackard to hang from the mirror ,...and had the gall to say to him " Oh I was just checking to see if you had a tag " . Ed told him to F_ _ _ Off, that he wasn't the parking lot police and to maybe he should mind his own business!!...Ed being a policeman...was furious! It's funny now...but wasn't then! I love my husband.                                                                           Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 10:56:19 PM Subject: Re: Gloria's Update  I just got my second permanent disable placard. But, I frequently forget to put it up there. I don't have a car in my name, so I have to hang it on the rear view mirror. If it were my car, I would have a bumper sticker made saying, " yes I am disabled and one of my disabilities is a bad memory. Sorry if I forgot to put it up. " I get some nasty looks when I do forget sometimes. Especially at the post office where people are going in and out all the time. I also use the electric carts in stores. And sometimes I get looks when I start using one since I had no trouble walking into the store. But, by the time I leave, from sitting in the same position and reaching to get things, then I can barely get out of the seat, so I get no looks then. Jan H On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote: > Jill > > It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap " > signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties > when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to > buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the > old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier > on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without > getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in > the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much. > > Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not > judge. After all, isn't the world all about them??? > > Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs) > have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can > not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that > they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a > some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it > just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying > about them at all. > > Gloria > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude > things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at > me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a > handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons > including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others > to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or > anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't care > about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never > ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it > hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on > this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it > here....and many of our situations are so very similar. > > > Love,Jill > > We don't remember days, we remember moments. > Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take > our breath away. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM > Subject: Re: Gloria's Update > > > It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know > where I am going or anything. > > PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your > children. > > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> > Subject: Gloria's Update > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM > > > > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely > emotional and busy time. > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile, > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus) > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it > showed clearly. > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear - > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white > knight!!! > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!! > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the > highest regard for all of you!!!! > Gloria > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I'm giving you some of mine ,lyncia!!                                                                            Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 10:21:20 PM Subject: Re: Gloria's Update  Lyncia I'm on board for that plan!!! I'm already sending you as much strength and spirit as I can! Can you begin to feel it?? Luv Gloria ____________ _________ _________ __ Lynicia - if you can't make it through by yourself, I am sure each one of here will give you a little bit of our strength and stick it outness and you can make it. We all love you. Jan H On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> wrote: > I am tire and I am through > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> > > Subject: Gloria's Update > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM > > > > > > > > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely > > emotional and busy time. > > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can > > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear > > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife > > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not > > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that > > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury > > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile, > > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he > > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind > > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus) > > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is > > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest > > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least > > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked > > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he > > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it > > showed clearly. > > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is > > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with > > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear - > > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He > > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will > > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was > > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to > > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white > > knight!!! > > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising > > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!! > > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the > > highest regard for all of you!!!! > > Gloria > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I'm giving you some of mine ,lyncia!!                                                                            Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 10:21:20 PM Subject: Re: Gloria's Update  Lyncia I'm on board for that plan!!! I'm already sending you as much strength and spirit as I can! Can you begin to feel it?? Luv Gloria ____________ _________ _________ __ Lynicia - if you can't make it through by yourself, I am sure each one of here will give you a little bit of our strength and stick it outness and you can make it. We all love you. Jan H On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> wrote: > I am tire and I am through > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> > > Subject: Gloria's Update > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM > > > > > > > > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely > > emotional and busy time. > > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can > > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear > > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife > > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not > > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that > > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury > > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile, > > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he > > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind > > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus) > > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is > > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest > > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least > > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked > > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he > > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it > > showed clearly. > > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is > > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with > > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear - > > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He > > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will > > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was > > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to > > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white > > knight!!! > > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising > > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!! > > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the > > highest regard for all of you!!!! > > Gloria > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I'm giving you some of mine ,lyncia!!                                                                            Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 10:21:20 PM Subject: Re: Gloria's Update  Lyncia I'm on board for that plan!!! I'm already sending you as much strength and spirit as I can! Can you begin to feel it?? Luv Gloria ____________ _________ _________ __ Lynicia - if you can't make it through by yourself, I am sure each one of here will give you a little bit of our strength and stick it outness and you can make it. We all love you. Jan H On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> wrote: > I am tire and I am through > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> > > Subject: Gloria's Update > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM > > > > > > > > Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely > > emotional and busy time. > > Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can > > understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear > > himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife > > might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not > > easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that > > things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury > > himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile, > > I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he > > turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind > > sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus) > > We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is > > a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest > > that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least > > not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked > > at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he > > had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it > > showed clearly. > > It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is > > beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with > > a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear - > > I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He > > just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will > > regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was > > definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to > > come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white > > knight!!! > > So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising > > and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!! > > Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the > > highest regard for all of you!!!! > > Gloria > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Gloria...we cannot spend time worrying about those in our family that simply don't care about us. We have to spend too much energy just taking care of ourselves...mentally and physically! They always seem to put themselves first...it's way past time we did!                                                                            Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 10:18:30 PM Subject: Re: Gloria's Update  Jill It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap " signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much. Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not judge. After all, isn't the world all about them??? Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs) have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying about them at all. Gloria ____________ _________ _________ __ Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't care about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it here....and many of our situations are so very similar. Love,Jill We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM Subject: Re: Gloria's Update It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know where I am going or anything. PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your children. Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows Love, Lyncia From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> Subject: Gloria's Update To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely emotional and busy time. Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile, I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus) We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it showed clearly. It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear - I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white knight!!! So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!! Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the highest regard for all of you!!!! Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Gloria...we cannot spend time worrying about those in our family that simply don't care about us. We have to spend too much energy just taking care of ourselves...mentally and physically! They always seem to put themselves first...it's way past time we did!                                                                            Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 10:18:30 PM Subject: Re: Gloria's Update  Jill It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap " signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much. Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not judge. After all, isn't the world all about them??? Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs) have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying about them at all. Gloria ____________ _________ _________ __ Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't care about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it here....and many of our situations are so very similar. Love,Jill We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM Subject: Re: Gloria's Update It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know where I am going or anything. PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your children. Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows Love, Lyncia From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> Subject: Gloria's Update To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely emotional and busy time. Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile, I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus) We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it showed clearly. It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear - I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white knight!!! So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!! Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the highest regard for all of you!!!! Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Gloria...we cannot spend time worrying about those in our family that simply don't care about us. We have to spend too much energy just taking care of ourselves...mentally and physically! They always seem to put themselves first...it's way past time we did!                                                                            Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 10:18:30 PM Subject: Re: Gloria's Update  Jill It took me until just recently to actually get one of those " Handicap " signs! Simply because I know that I don't look like I have difficulties when I get out of my raised older Ford SUV. I was so happy to be able to buy the truck; because, I had so much difficulty getting in and out of the old T-Bird. Believe it or not, stepping up from the step, is a lot easier on me, except not sure how much longer the door will handle it, without getting it fixed LOL Also, I have a mattress, pillow and sleeping bag in the back so that I can have a nap if driving gets to be too much. Needless to say, the rude people just wouldn't care to notice and not judge. After all, isn't the world all about them??? Lyncia and Jill - I also just learned that my step-children (of 20 yrs) have absolutely no desire to speak with me at all. Yet, their father can not understand why I would ask - then why do you insist on telling me that they asked about my health?? OHHH I never will understand the thinking a some humans!! Actually, I've always known these 2 were like that and now it just confirms for me, that I don't need to waste another moment worrying about them at all. Gloria ____________ _________ _________ __ Lyncia...... you are loved her so much.....I have had people say rude things to me also.....once when I was Christmas shopping,a man yelled at me...I mean yelled!!!... in the parking lot ..because i had taken a handicapped space( I'm on disability and have a tag for a host of reasons including severe arthritis) Anyway He screamed at me loud enough for others to hear That " Fat didn't count " ! ! I didn't even get mad at him or cry or anything...he was so ignorant!! and my oldest son simply just doesn't care about Ed's cirrohsis or my problems.... .he and his wife never call,never ask Ed how he is,never visit him when he's in the hospital etc. Does it hurt...hell yes,it does...but it doesn't change anything. Our family on this forum understands everything we go through...it' s wht I love it here....and many of our situations are so very similar. Love,Jill We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:55:41 PM Subject: Re: Gloria's Update It's a hard time right now. I am taking off in the car and don't know where I am going or anything. PS Being fat (155) and having this disease scares people away even your children. Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows Love, Lyncia From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> Subject: Gloria's Update To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:23 AM Sorry I have not been in contact everyone!!! Just been an extremely emotional and busy time. Well, I imagine that everyone here, whether male or female, can understand that my husband is really going through a great deal of fear himself. Doesn't know nor wants to think it possible that his wife might not always be able to keep the decks clear for him. He's just not easily able to express the fear as an emotion!! Therefore, anytime that things get scary for him, he prefers to go into his cave and bury himself deep. This time, of course which had already been quite awhile, I had to tread to that opening and haul him out!! That's always when he turns his anger on me; because, he wasn't finished getting his mind sorted. (This is from Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus) We even went for a counselling session together and with a fella that is a long timer in our step 12 program. Even though Hank tried his hardest that first day, hubby still wasn't ready to admit an emotion (at least not without the " but " she). Instead, he felt picked on!! I've worked at pointing out that no one was ganging up on him. It was simple - he had to let his face know that he didn't think he was angry because it showed clearly. It has taken until probably last night; but, I believe the light is beginning to get into that cave and he's on the verge of coming out with a much healthier attitude!!! Besides, as I've made it extremely clear - I have no more time nor the emotional stamina to wait any longer. He just has to put his " run away " attitude totally away now - or he will regret it for the rest of the days that HP allows him. This was definitely not the time to somehow patiently wait until he was ready to come out of that cave. It was time for him to stand up and be my white knight!!! So, for now, the news is much better. He actually gave me a surprising and warm kiss on his way out to his meeting tonight!! Thanks to everyone for your understanding and support. I truly have the highest regard for all of you!!!! Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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