Guest guest Posted August 2, 2001 Report Share Posted August 2, 2001 Good thoughts to live by . Martha from Mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted August 2, 2001 Report Share Posted August 2, 2001 Hi Janet, my name is Patti and my hubby Mike was diagnosed with PSC in 1997, they think he had it as far back as 1988, anyway, we are very pro-active alternatively with the disease and so far there have been no signs of progression....I would be MORE than happy to share our protocol with you. welcome.....sorry you have to be here! Patti >From: " Janet " >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: Message >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:56:54 -0400 > >Hi. My name is Janet , I am a 49 year old female and I have recently been diagnosed with Sclerosing Choloangitis. Although I have been educating myself about this disease, I am interested in hearing from others who have the disease. Particularly, how you cope with the symptoms. I find I am fatigued and have difficulty sleeping. Is there anything any of you do to get more energy and help you sleep? I am taking a daily multi-vitaimin, URSO and Milk Thistle. Is there anything else I can do? > >Also, how do cope emotionally? Highs? Low? Inbetweens? Please respond. > >Thanks a lot. > >**************************************************************** >This e-mail and any documents accompanying this e-mail contain information which is confidential and/or legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named on this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this e-mail information, is strictly prohibited and that the documents should be returned to Saiber Schlesinger Satz & Goldstein, LLC immediately. In this regard, if you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone () immediately, delete the e-mail and all attachments and destroy all hard copies of same. > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2001 Report Share Posted August 2, 2001 Janet, I have hit a comfort level. I stopped taking Questran. So now I take Actigall/Urso the whole dose at bedtime. Then during the day I take Atarax 2 times. So really for me, I swallow 5 prescribed pills, and 3 vitamins. My body seems to tolerate them well, especially since I take the Actigall at bedtime and don't take Questran. I switched to light therapy to help alleviate the itching and it has, so now I just use maintenance of Atarax. If itching resumes, I will add the Questran and perhaps the Benadryl at nighttime. I had to fiddle around with dosages (with doctor supervision) until I found what worked best for me. I've only been living with the PSC symptoms for a little over a year now. I've had the dx for 4, but I didn't display physical symtoms until last June. So this is all still a fairly new experience for me. This group has made a tremendous difference in my life. They gave me HOPE and they gave me the ability to know that my life still goes on even with PSC. They have showed me how to live with this. When I first joined, the discussion for the day was about GTO's and I thought, "hey, how can you talk about cars and such when I am hurting and we are all seriously ill." But, they taught me how. That is why from time to time, we are chatting about things other than PSC, because we are trying to live our lives the best way we can. in Michigan (Dx UC 1984, Dx MISSING COLON 1999, Dx PSC 1997, PSC symptoms 2000) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2001 Report Share Posted August 2, 2001 Janet, I have hit a comfort level. I stopped taking Questran. So now I take Actigall/Urso the whole dose at bedtime. Then during the day I take Atarax 2 times. So really for me, I swallow 5 prescribed pills, and 3 vitamins. My body seems to tolerate them well, especially since I take the Actigall at bedtime and don't take Questran. I switched to light therapy to help alleviate the itching and it has, so now I just use maintenance of Atarax. If itching resumes, I will add the Questran and perhaps the Benadryl at nighttime. I had to fiddle around with dosages (with doctor supervision) until I found what worked best for me. I've only been living with the PSC symptoms for a little over a year now. I've had the dx for 4, but I didn't display physical symtoms until last June. So this is all still a fairly new experience for me. This group has made a tremendous difference in my life. They gave me HOPE and they gave me the ability to know that my life still goes on even with PSC. They have showed me how to live with this. When I first joined, the discussion for the day was about GTO's and I thought, "hey, how can you talk about cars and such when I am hurting and we are all seriously ill." But, they taught me how. That is why from time to time, we are chatting about things other than PSC, because we are trying to live our lives the best way we can. in Michigan (Dx UC 1984, Dx MISSING COLON 1999, Dx PSC 1997, PSC symptoms 2000) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2001 Report Share Posted August 2, 2001 Janet, I have hit a comfort level. I stopped taking Questran. So now I take Actigall/Urso the whole dose at bedtime. Then during the day I take Atarax 2 times. So really for me, I swallow 5 prescribed pills, and 3 vitamins. My body seems to tolerate them well, especially since I take the Actigall at bedtime and don't take Questran. I switched to light therapy to help alleviate the itching and it has, so now I just use maintenance of Atarax. If itching resumes, I will add the Questran and perhaps the Benadryl at nighttime. I had to fiddle around with dosages (with doctor supervision) until I found what worked best for me. I've only been living with the PSC symptoms for a little over a year now. I've had the dx for 4, but I didn't display physical symtoms until last June. So this is all still a fairly new experience for me. This group has made a tremendous difference in my life. They gave me HOPE and they gave me the ability to know that my life still goes on even with PSC. They have showed me how to live with this. When I first joined, the discussion for the day was about GTO's and I thought, "hey, how can you talk about cars and such when I am hurting and we are all seriously ill." But, they taught me how. That is why from time to time, we are chatting about things other than PSC, because we are trying to live our lives the best way we can. in Michigan (Dx UC 1984, Dx MISSING COLON 1999, Dx PSC 1997, PSC symptoms 2000) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2001 Report Share Posted August 2, 2001 To and all the PSCers: Although I am new to the group, I just wanted to take this opportunity to tell all of you how much you are helping me to cope with PSC. (I have tears in my eyes as I am writing, so bear with me - :-)) Every day I am dealing with some malady of some sort and was beginning to wonder how in the world I would be able to deal with this for years when I was having difficulty dealing with it on a day-to-day basis. Your emails have encouraged me to see that it is possible, taken one day at a time, and with people like all of you, I know I will be able to get through this. A Big thank you goes out to Linnie and all of the founders for their vision for this group. Every PSC member is a life line. Thanks so much!!!! :-) **************************************************************** This e-mail and any documents accompanying this e-mail contain information which is confidential and/or legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named on this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this e-mail information, is strictly prohibited and that the documents should be returned to Saiber Schlesinger Satz & Goldstein, LLC immediately. In this regard, if you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone () immediately, delete the e-mail and all attachments and destroy all hard copies of same. >>> Baudoux-Northrup 08/02/01 03:54PM >>> Janet, I have hit a comfort level. I stopped taking Questran. So now I take Actigall/Urso the whole dose at bedtime. Then during the day I take Atarax 2 times. So really for me, I swallow 5 prescribed pills, and 3 vitamins. My body seems to tolerate them well, especially since I take the Actigall at bedtime and don't take Questran. I switched to light therapy to help alleviate the itching and it has, so now I just use maintenance of Atarax. If itching resumes, I will add the Questran and perhaps the Benadryl at nighttime. I had to fiddle around with dosages (with doctor supervision) until I found what worked best for me. I've only been living with the PSC symptoms for a little over a year now. I've had the dx for 4, but I didn't display physical symtoms until last June. So this is all still a fairly new experience for me. This group has made a tremendous difference in my life. They gave me HOPE and they gave me the ability to know that my life still goes on even with PSC. They have showed me how to live with this. When I first joined, the discussion for the day was about GTO's and I thought, " hey, how can you talk about cars and such when I am hurting and we are all seriously ill. " But, they taught me how. That is why from time to time, we are chatting about things other than PSC, because we are trying to live our lives the best way we can. in Michigan (Dx UC 1984, Dx MISSING COLON 1999, Dx PSC 1997, PSC symptoms 2000) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2001 Report Share Posted August 2, 2001 To and all the PSCers: Although I am new to the group, I just wanted to take this opportunity to tell all of you how much you are helping me to cope with PSC. (I have tears in my eyes as I am writing, so bear with me - :-)) Every day I am dealing with some malady of some sort and was beginning to wonder how in the world I would be able to deal with this for years when I was having difficulty dealing with it on a day-to-day basis. Your emails have encouraged me to see that it is possible, taken one day at a time, and with people like all of you, I know I will be able to get through this. A Big thank you goes out to Linnie and all of the founders for their vision for this group. Every PSC member is a life line. Thanks so much!!!! :-) **************************************************************** This e-mail and any documents accompanying this e-mail contain information which is confidential and/or legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named on this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this e-mail information, is strictly prohibited and that the documents should be returned to Saiber Schlesinger Satz & Goldstein, LLC immediately. In this regard, if you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone () immediately, delete the e-mail and all attachments and destroy all hard copies of same. >>> Baudoux-Northrup 08/02/01 03:54PM >>> Janet, I have hit a comfort level. I stopped taking Questran. So now I take Actigall/Urso the whole dose at bedtime. Then during the day I take Atarax 2 times. So really for me, I swallow 5 prescribed pills, and 3 vitamins. My body seems to tolerate them well, especially since I take the Actigall at bedtime and don't take Questran. I switched to light therapy to help alleviate the itching and it has, so now I just use maintenance of Atarax. If itching resumes, I will add the Questran and perhaps the Benadryl at nighttime. I had to fiddle around with dosages (with doctor supervision) until I found what worked best for me. I've only been living with the PSC symptoms for a little over a year now. I've had the dx for 4, but I didn't display physical symtoms until last June. So this is all still a fairly new experience for me. This group has made a tremendous difference in my life. They gave me HOPE and they gave me the ability to know that my life still goes on even with PSC. They have showed me how to live with this. When I first joined, the discussion for the day was about GTO's and I thought, " hey, how can you talk about cars and such when I am hurting and we are all seriously ill. " But, they taught me how. That is why from time to time, we are chatting about things other than PSC, because we are trying to live our lives the best way we can. in Michigan (Dx UC 1984, Dx MISSING COLON 1999, Dx PSC 1997, PSC symptoms 2000) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2001 Report Share Posted August 2, 2001 To and all the PSCers: Although I am new to the group, I just wanted to take this opportunity to tell all of you how much you are helping me to cope with PSC. (I have tears in my eyes as I am writing, so bear with me - :-)) Every day I am dealing with some malady of some sort and was beginning to wonder how in the world I would be able to deal with this for years when I was having difficulty dealing with it on a day-to-day basis. Your emails have encouraged me to see that it is possible, taken one day at a time, and with people like all of you, I know I will be able to get through this. A Big thank you goes out to Linnie and all of the founders for their vision for this group. Every PSC member is a life line. Thanks so much!!!! :-) **************************************************************** This e-mail and any documents accompanying this e-mail contain information which is confidential and/or legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named on this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this e-mail information, is strictly prohibited and that the documents should be returned to Saiber Schlesinger Satz & Goldstein, LLC immediately. In this regard, if you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone () immediately, delete the e-mail and all attachments and destroy all hard copies of same. >>> Baudoux-Northrup 08/02/01 03:54PM >>> Janet, I have hit a comfort level. I stopped taking Questran. So now I take Actigall/Urso the whole dose at bedtime. Then during the day I take Atarax 2 times. So really for me, I swallow 5 prescribed pills, and 3 vitamins. My body seems to tolerate them well, especially since I take the Actigall at bedtime and don't take Questran. I switched to light therapy to help alleviate the itching and it has, so now I just use maintenance of Atarax. If itching resumes, I will add the Questran and perhaps the Benadryl at nighttime. I had to fiddle around with dosages (with doctor supervision) until I found what worked best for me. I've only been living with the PSC symptoms for a little over a year now. I've had the dx for 4, but I didn't display physical symtoms until last June. So this is all still a fairly new experience for me. This group has made a tremendous difference in my life. They gave me HOPE and they gave me the ability to know that my life still goes on even with PSC. They have showed me how to live with this. When I first joined, the discussion for the day was about GTO's and I thought, " hey, how can you talk about cars and such when I am hurting and we are all seriously ill. " But, they taught me how. That is why from time to time, we are chatting about things other than PSC, because we are trying to live our lives the best way we can. in Michigan (Dx UC 1984, Dx MISSING COLON 1999, Dx PSC 1997, PSC symptoms 2000) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2001 Report Share Posted August 2, 2001 Hi Janet, I am also a fairly recent receiver of the PSC news. I believe I am very early in the progression, since my liver test numbers have only been high once, and the first and only ERCP I've had shows slight narrowing and beading of the bile ducts. A liver biopsy revealed only slight inflammation. I also have UC, which is well under control (it was pretty dreadful last year for 5 months when it wasn't " under control " ) with Pentasa (500 milligrams, once daily). The only disease related stomach pain I have experienced so far was due, I believe, to the ERCP. I think the flexible scope caused some irritation of the stomach to intestine valve, which caused me moderate pain when I would lay down to sleep. I was able to minimize the pain by not eating anything after about 6 pm. The pain stopped bothering me about a month after the ERCP. As far as fatigue goes, I do experience a little. I think for me that taking Panax Ginseng has helped out some, plus multivitamins and a good exercise program (weights and running), and healthy diet (minimize sugars and processed foods, virtually no dairy, minimal fried foods/bad fats, supplemental good oils, lots of fresh fruit/veggies, etc.) I'm still experimenting with the ginseng to see if the effect is repeatable. I lost some weight due to the UC. I'm 6' tall and weighed 155. With good eating/supplements/weights I've put on about 15 pounds. I take milk thistle, as well as 250 mg Urso 3 times daily. My last blood test showed all my liver numbers back to normal! By God's grace I hope they stay that way for a good long time, although they don't necessarily indicate or prove the PSC is not still working away. I do think it is important that we be willing to make major lifestyle changes if we want to " fight " or slow down this thing. Hope this info helps. PATTI: could you please send me your " protocol " ? Thanks Major Air National Guard pilot UC dx 02/99; PSC dx 03/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2001 Report Share Posted August 2, 2001 Hi Janet, I am also a fairly recent receiver of the PSC news. I believe I am very early in the progression, since my liver test numbers have only been high once, and the first and only ERCP I've had shows slight narrowing and beading of the bile ducts. A liver biopsy revealed only slight inflammation. I also have UC, which is well under control (it was pretty dreadful last year for 5 months when it wasn't " under control " ) with Pentasa (500 milligrams, once daily). The only disease related stomach pain I have experienced so far was due, I believe, to the ERCP. I think the flexible scope caused some irritation of the stomach to intestine valve, which caused me moderate pain when I would lay down to sleep. I was able to minimize the pain by not eating anything after about 6 pm. The pain stopped bothering me about a month after the ERCP. As far as fatigue goes, I do experience a little. I think for me that taking Panax Ginseng has helped out some, plus multivitamins and a good exercise program (weights and running), and healthy diet (minimize sugars and processed foods, virtually no dairy, minimal fried foods/bad fats, supplemental good oils, lots of fresh fruit/veggies, etc.) I'm still experimenting with the ginseng to see if the effect is repeatable. I lost some weight due to the UC. I'm 6' tall and weighed 155. With good eating/supplements/weights I've put on about 15 pounds. I take milk thistle, as well as 250 mg Urso 3 times daily. My last blood test showed all my liver numbers back to normal! By God's grace I hope they stay that way for a good long time, although they don't necessarily indicate or prove the PSC is not still working away. I do think it is important that we be willing to make major lifestyle changes if we want to " fight " or slow down this thing. Hope this info helps. PATTI: could you please send me your " protocol " ? Thanks Major Air National Guard pilot UC dx 02/99; PSC dx 03/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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