Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Typical intake before our show last November Meal 1 and 2 1 serving of oatmeal and 1 scoop of protein powder Meal 3 4 oz. of cooked meat 1/2 cup of brown/wild rice mix 1 cup green beans Meal 4 1 6-oz. container Blue Bunny low-carb yogurt Meal 5 (eaten waaay too late in the day, but can't be helped....10:00 pm) 4 oz. cooked turkey breast and large salad with rasp. vinagrette dressing (I make my own w/olive oil) Alternate food choices would be about the same as meal 3 only without the rice Another alternalte was 3 whole scrambled eggs with some cheese mixed in. The cooked meat was usually anywhere from 4-6 oz. (weighed every meal, no guessing on that part of it.) When Spouse and I started this new workout/eating plan, I had my doubts when I first read it, as the plan had way more carbs than what I ever ate, almost as much in the pre and post workout meals as what I consumed in a whole day before. I tried the 1500 calorie fat loss plan for a month, then went down to 1000 a day fat loss, still no weekly results. (supposed to measure waistline, and if it increases at all from the previous week, drop 500 calories/day for the next week). My body was basically in starvation mode at this point and was hanging on to anything and everything I was giving it. The person that developed this plan said I should go to a 2500 cal/day fat loss plan. Well, I knew that was NOT going to be do-able, way more food than I could consume. I tried it for 3 days and have never felt more bloated in my life. I told Spouse I was going to go back to doing what I did last fall, and I have been feeling much better. As an example, the plan said I should consume 56 grams of carb and 38 grams of protein BEFORE and AFTER my workout. Eating that much before my workout, especially on leg day almost made me puke. And then to turn around and eat that much again right AFTER the workout.....well, it wasn't pretty. Didn't make me sick, but sure made me feel huge around the middle. I now just have about 1/2 cup of unsweetened applesauce right before going up for my workout, and have my serving of oatmeal with protein powder after, a little more applesauce too, as Spouse was kinda getting on my case about not having any " fast " carbs right after a workout. 1/2 cup or so doesn't make me feel over-fed. Those of you that have been on this list awhile probably remember the post I made last fall when I said " I AM A CARBOHOLIC " . For you " newbies " here, I will repeat what I said back then........people that say that after they have been " eating clean " for a month or so, when they get the junk food out of their system, find that they don't crave it anymore. And to that I said " Horsepucky " I STILL crave it, every day I make meals. Like an alcoholic or someone who has quit smoking.....I miss it horribly. Altho, I can take a handful of chocolate chips and it is enough to satisfy me. And, it has been 2 years since I have made the change to healthy eating and vigorous workouts (well, maybe not all the vigorous on leg day.....LOL) I would fight you for a bag of M & M's if you were holding them in your hand. And I'm in good shape, I'd probably win! :>) This got me to thinking (dangerous thing, me thinking.....).....is there perhaps something in my body makeup/chemistry that I really do have trouble with carbs, even the amount that was listed in the new eating plan we were implementing? I asked my Chiropractor/kinesiologist that and she said yes. Now, I must digress here for a moment...........for YEARS I have pooh-pooed the Eat Right for your Blood type diet........said it was nothing but a bunch of hooey. The chiro said to me..... " You are a type O, aren't you? (yes, I am). Type O's are meat eaters, they cannot tolerate alot of carbs in their systems, especially the grains. " (I also LOVE breads, whole wheat and especailly Natural Ovens grain bread). Then that got me to thinking perhaps that also goes hand in hand with my cholesterol problem. When I was eating " unclean " , sweets, cookies, candy, chocolate, all that nasty stuff I crave now, my cholesterol was 200 or below. After eating clean for over a year, it was 225. And, i have eliminated all the crap that is supposed to cause it. She said that yes, the two are more than likely related. And I am also thinking (guys, perhaps you want to cover your eyes here...) that since I am post menopausal, hormones or lack thereof might be contributing to this. That I don't know, just an un-educated guess. But, at 56, things don't just melt off like they would have if I would have done this when I was 22. I realize that it's going to be a little more difficult, but it is very discouraging when I am doing my best to eat right and now I am putting on the bodyfat. I am attempting to do cardio every day, and most days can accomplish that, but some days it is just too much when I don't get in the house till 9 pm or after, and then have to think about food AND a cardio session. When I have carbs, it is always the good kind, the brown/wild rice, whole wheat rotini (1/2 cup or so, cooked). Anyway, at this point I am going to try and use some of the type O foods, and also try and impliment things from the GI diet that are allowed on the type O food plan. I have 9 weeks, and I will know in a couple of weeks if this is going to give me any results at all. Sometimes I will have a small baked potato (I don't like sweet potatoes), but we're talkin' pretty small here, nothing like you'd get at a restaurant. I am going to try and eliminate breads and wheat products and see if that makes a noticeable difference. The type O plan also says no dairy, but I think I will still have yogurt (low carb, or minimal carb Lite 85), as I feel that since I am post menopausal, I really need the calcium that yogurt and a little cheese would give. I also feel that because I do eat cheese and yogurt, my bones are in good enough shape that I didn't get any broken ribs 2 years ago when I had that " altercation " with the 1300 pound cow. Spouse is having good results with that eating plan we started on in December, but it is not working for me. Ok, now you can all start tearing me apart. I'll sit down when I read. Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 My first knee-jerk reaction is that you are not eating enough. Now, I'm not saying 2500 calories...how the heck would you ever get a caloric defficit at that rate!, but a quick glance makes me think this day is about 1100 callories. I don't have your stats, but I'm willing to bet your BMR is higher than that. The brown rice should not really be a problem, not too high on the glycemic index...but if you wanted to sub some kind of fruit for that you might find some difference. I'll tell you what I've done about the cravings. I have started supplementing with Flax oil and I take L-glutamine. These seem to have stopped cravings in their tracks. I am sitting in a room by myself, studying for a test tomorrow in Material Science with not one, not two, but three open boxes of Girl Scout Cookies and I " m not even tempted. I didn't have it quite as bad as you describe, but I have been known to eat a box of cookies with out even noticing they are in my mouth. I had another knee jerk reaction that i had to stiffle..I was going to say " you are taking nutritional advise for a Chyropractor?! " , but then I thought...who the heck am I and I'm about to put my two cents in...lol. I don't buy into the blook type thing, but I know people who do. Of course, I've not known any of them to have any luck with it, maybe you will be different. Let us know hot it goes. I'm sure others will have some input as well. Good luck. Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I won't tear you apart. I've heard of the eat for your blood type. I don't know if it works. I do know that you are probably already at a pretty low body fat and it is tough to get it even lower. I can't blame you for trying whatever it takes for you to meet your goal. I do think not eating wheat products will have some kind of effect, but you'll have to let us know. Good luck and let us know how it goes! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I won't tear you apart. I've heard of the eat for your blood type. I don't know if it works. I do know that you are probably already at a pretty low body fat and it is tough to get it even lower. I can't blame you for trying whatever it takes for you to meet your goal. I do think not eating wheat products will have some kind of effect, but you'll have to let us know. Good luck and let us know how it goes! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I won't tear you apart. I've heard of the eat for your blood type. I don't know if it works. I do know that you are probably already at a pretty low body fat and it is tough to get it even lower. I can't blame you for trying whatever it takes for you to meet your goal. I do think not eating wheat products will have some kind of effect, but you'll have to let us know. Good luck and let us know how it goes! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Actually, I'm not totally incredulous that holding off on the wheat items won't have an effect. They tend to be higher on the glycemic level than some other things, so they push you a little towards holding onto fat, so subbing less glycemic carbs could be a help. Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Actually, I'm not totally incredulous that holding off on the wheat items won't have an effect. They tend to be higher on the glycemic level than some other things, so they push you a little towards holding onto fat, so subbing less glycemic carbs could be a help. Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Actually, I'm not totally incredulous that holding off on the wheat items won't have an effect. They tend to be higher on the glycemic level than some other things, so they push you a little towards holding onto fat, so subbing less glycemic carbs could be a help. Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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