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In a message dated 2/3/2006 11:02:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

will@... writes:

And I've not lost one single, solitary $%#^^##@* POUND!!!! Not a damn ounce

in 6 lousy weeks!!

I've been shooting pictures of myself every week. I see progress but NO FAT

LOSS. I

Hi Will. The above statement that you made is indicative of muscle gain....

AND Fat loss. If you were ONLY gaining muscle and NOT losing fat...the scale

would go up. You are not losing...but you are also not gaining *scale*

weight. Your strength is increasing significantly. Vwallah! Major progress!!

Keep after my friend. I'm sure you ALSO read that the BFL champions DIDN'T

QUIT after 6 weeks!!

Kelley

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In a message dated 2/3/2006 11:02:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

will@... writes:

And I've not lost one single, solitary $%#^^##@* POUND!!!! Not a damn ounce

in 6 lousy weeks!!

I've been shooting pictures of myself every week. I see progress but NO FAT

LOSS. I

Hi Will. The above statement that you made is indicative of muscle gain....

AND Fat loss. If you were ONLY gaining muscle and NOT losing fat...the scale

would go up. You are not losing...but you are also not gaining *scale*

weight. Your strength is increasing significantly. Vwallah! Major progress!!

Keep after my friend. I'm sure you ALSO read that the BFL champions DIDN'T

QUIT after 6 weeks!!

Kelley

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Did anyone else on the board look at the pics? Looks like great

progress for 6 weeks. Who cares about the weight...it's obvious by

the pics you're doing awesome.

>

> I've been at this now for six weeks. I've been working my ASS

off.

>

>

>

> I've been hitting 10s when I work out. I mean REAL 10s. Positive

failure,

> can't lift the bar again 10s!!

>

>

>

> I've doubled the amount of weight I'm lifting on most exercises and

am

> lifting nearly the entire stack on some machines (I can't use free

weights,

> I'm getting over having 4 herniated discs in my back).

>

>

>

> I plan my meals EVERY day. I eat the approved foods. In 6 weeks

I've

> cheated twice. According to Bill, that's damn good.

>

>

>

> My free days I have pizza, M & ms, ice cream, whatever just the way

Bill says.

>

>

>

> I'm doing 45 minutes of cardio 5 days a week with my heart rate at

80% of

> max (don't kid yourself, read the interviews at bodybuilding.Com

with people

> who've actually WON the BFL challenge and you'll find they did NOT

do 20

> minutes a day....they did 45 minutes 5 days a week). (And don't

tell me

> that my cardio is stopping muscle production which is lowering my

metabolic

> rate so I'm not loosing weight. If I wasn't growing muscle, my

ability to

> lift greater and greater amounts of weight would not continue each

week.)

>

>

>

> And I've not lost one single, solitary $%#^^##@* POUND!!!! Not a

damn ounce

> in 6 lousy weeks!!

>

>

>

> I've been shooting pictures of myself every week. I see progress

but NO FAT

> LOSS. I put the photos on a private web site which I have set as

my home

> page to keep me motivated but I'M LOSING MY MOTIVATION. I'm ready

shuck

> this whole thing!!!!

>

>

>

> If you have any comments, I welcome them. Here's the link to the

photos. I

> m not proud of them..... http://g-omni-3.com/subsite/

>

>

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

> Will

>

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Did anyone else on the board look at the pics? Looks like great

progress for 6 weeks. Who cares about the weight...it's obvious by

the pics you're doing awesome.

>

> I've been at this now for six weeks. I've been working my ASS

off.

>

>

>

> I've been hitting 10s when I work out. I mean REAL 10s. Positive

failure,

> can't lift the bar again 10s!!

>

>

>

> I've doubled the amount of weight I'm lifting on most exercises and

am

> lifting nearly the entire stack on some machines (I can't use free

weights,

> I'm getting over having 4 herniated discs in my back).

>

>

>

> I plan my meals EVERY day. I eat the approved foods. In 6 weeks

I've

> cheated twice. According to Bill, that's damn good.

>

>

>

> My free days I have pizza, M & ms, ice cream, whatever just the way

Bill says.

>

>

>

> I'm doing 45 minutes of cardio 5 days a week with my heart rate at

80% of

> max (don't kid yourself, read the interviews at bodybuilding.Com

with people

> who've actually WON the BFL challenge and you'll find they did NOT

do 20

> minutes a day....they did 45 minutes 5 days a week). (And don't

tell me

> that my cardio is stopping muscle production which is lowering my

metabolic

> rate so I'm not loosing weight. If I wasn't growing muscle, my

ability to

> lift greater and greater amounts of weight would not continue each

week.)

>

>

>

> And I've not lost one single, solitary $%#^^##@* POUND!!!! Not a

damn ounce

> in 6 lousy weeks!!

>

>

>

> I've been shooting pictures of myself every week. I see progress

but NO FAT

> LOSS. I put the photos on a private web site which I have set as

my home

> page to keep me motivated but I'M LOSING MY MOTIVATION. I'm ready

shuck

> this whole thing!!!!

>

>

>

> If you have any comments, I welcome them. Here's the link to the

photos. I

> m not proud of them..... http://g-omni-3.com/subsite/

>

>

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

> Will

>

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You need to reread what you wrote. You did say some positive things.

Keep in mind that fat loss happens from the inside out. You lose

internal fat covering the organs first.

You are stronger and likely have gained some muscle.

Keep this up and you'll start to see more visible fat loss!

Andy

> I've doubled the amount of weight I'm lifting on most exercises and am

> lifting nearly the entire stack on some machines (I can't use free weights,

> I'm getting over having 4 herniated discs in my back).

I see progress but NO FAT

> LOSS. I put the photos on a private web site which I have set as my home

> page to keep me motivated but I'M LOSING MY MOTIVATION. I'm ready shuck

> this whole thing!!!!

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You need to reread what you wrote. You did say some positive things.

Keep in mind that fat loss happens from the inside out. You lose

internal fat covering the organs first.

You are stronger and likely have gained some muscle.

Keep this up and you'll start to see more visible fat loss!

Andy

> I've doubled the amount of weight I'm lifting on most exercises and am

> lifting nearly the entire stack on some machines (I can't use free weights,

> I'm getting over having 4 herniated discs in my back).

I see progress but NO FAT

> LOSS. I put the photos on a private web site which I have set as my home

> page to keep me motivated but I'M LOSING MY MOTIVATION. I'm ready shuck

> this whole thing!!!!

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You need to reread what you wrote. You did say some positive things.

Keep in mind that fat loss happens from the inside out. You lose

internal fat covering the organs first.

You are stronger and likely have gained some muscle.

Keep this up and you'll start to see more visible fat loss!

Andy

> I've doubled the amount of weight I'm lifting on most exercises and am

> lifting nearly the entire stack on some machines (I can't use free weights,

> I'm getting over having 4 herniated discs in my back).

I see progress but NO FAT

> LOSS. I put the photos on a private web site which I have set as my home

> page to keep me motivated but I'M LOSING MY MOTIVATION. I'm ready shuck

> this whole thing!!!!

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I looked at the pictures and I thought for a minute that he must have been

joking when he wrote the email. Seriously. Then I realized that people

really don't SEE what's in front of their eyes when it's their own body they

are looking at sometimes. That's AWESOME progress. You have so obviously

traded fat for muscle. Lots of it, too!

Sara

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> Did anyone else on the board look at the pics?

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I looked at the pictures and I thought for a minute that he must have been

joking when he wrote the email. Seriously. Then I realized that people

really don't SEE what's in front of their eyes when it's their own body they

are looking at sometimes. That's AWESOME progress. You have so obviously

traded fat for muscle. Lots of it, too!

Sara

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> Did anyone else on the board look at the pics?

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Wow, I just found the link to your pictures!!! YOU don't see a

difference????? Man, you are doing very well. I'm impressed. Stuff

is moving NORTH on you. Keep going. The bathroom scale isn't

everything. You are changing your LIFE... looking good man...don't

quit.

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I have to agree with andy. Re-read what you just wrote. You've had

some great strength increases, you eat like a champ, you're

obviously leaning up from the pictures, but you're not seeing the

scale weight changes? Boo-hoo! I've seen people's transformations

where there was a two pound scale weight change but the flubber

peeled off like they were an onion. You look to be one of those

types since you're leaning up at an amazing rate. Turn in that

stupid scale for a measuring tape and make that the thing that rates

your progress.

Keep it up!

Matt

> > I've doubled the amount of weight I'm lifting on most exercises

and am

> > lifting nearly the entire stack on some machines (I can't use

free weights,

> > I'm getting over having 4 herniated discs in my back).

>

> I see progress but NO FAT

> > LOSS. I put the photos on a private web site which I have set

as my home

> > page to keep me motivated but I'M LOSING MY MOTIVATION. I'm

ready shuck

> > this whole thing!!!!

>

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In a message dated 2/3/2006 10:03:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mpape_1@... writes:

Turn in that

stupid scale for a measuring tape and make that the thing that rates

your progress.

Keep it up!

Matt

****AMEN****

Kelley

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Hi Will,

I was reading old posts and I think your visual and strength

transformations are AWESOME! Are you seeing the same pictures I am?

Wow!!! Great job, keep it up.

The last time I did my challenge I ran out of gas at the end because I

simply pressed myself way too far. Dig deep, and keep going. I didn't

have the support that you have here!

We're cheering for you! Keep it up. Are you measuring body fat? I'm

positive you'll see some serious dropping of that number, even if the

evil scale won't budge.

Jami

Ending Week 3

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Hi Will,

I was reading old posts and I think your visual and strength

transformations are AWESOME! Are you seeing the same pictures I am?

Wow!!! Great job, keep it up.

The last time I did my challenge I ran out of gas at the end because I

simply pressed myself way too far. Dig deep, and keep going. I didn't

have the support that you have here!

We're cheering for you! Keep it up. Are you measuring body fat? I'm

positive you'll see some serious dropping of that number, even if the

evil scale won't budge.

Jami

Ending Week 3

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Hi,

I'm new to this list, but not to BFL, so I'll chime right in here with

my 2cents worth.

Everthing I've read, and every one I've seen who had great success on

BFL agree...the big changes happen in the last four weeks. You say

your lifting has increased, but the scale has stayed the

same...yup...sounds plausable..you are replacing fat with muscle...how

do your cloths fit? How do you feel?

Obviously you are working out hard enough, so if you are stuck on the

scale...evil scale monster that it is, and not a reliable judge of

your improvement either....then you have to look at your food. I

know...Bill says 'Don't measure! Don't count calories! Eat what you

want on Free Day! " ....but you have to be sure you are being honest

with yourself about your food intake.

It's really a very simple formula...calories in/calories out. If you

are going so hog wild on your free day that you undo all of your

caloric deficit for the week you will slow down the fat burn. I know

that " Palm/Fist " method alone does not work for me. My fist gets

bigger and bigger! Or (and this really does happen to me in the first

four weeks or so) my servings get smaller and smaller. I have to put

my food into fitday.com and SEE the numbers to know I'm staying where

I want to be.

Have you ever looked at this site: http://www.hussmanfitness.org/

It has a ton of really good info, how calories work, where our fat

lies, where it burns off first (did you know that when we are over

weight, especially if we have been for a long time, our muscles are

" marbled " with fat, just like a steak. That fat is the first to get

burned off...doesnt' effect our pants size, so we never know it's

leaving) and much more. There is a BMR calculator there too, to help

figure out a target caloric range.

Now, many of you will scream BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT BILL SAID TO

DO!!!...and you are right...but sometimes we need to calibrate our

palm/fist size.

You are only in week six. And you are probably doing great, you just

don't know it yet.

As for the extra cardio...yes, I've noticed that many of the winners

did extra cardio, especially the women or the men with a high BF%

starting out. But, be carefull you don't over work yourself. Don't

burn yourself out going hot and heavy...more is not always better.

This is more like a marathon than a sprint....the marathon is your

life span.

Anyway...I've rattled on for too long...hang in there and you will see

results.

Barbara

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Will,

Take those measurements NOW, and then again in 2 weeks. There are

websites that you can enter your measurements and it will calculate

bodyfat. www.biofitness.com is one that I've been using.

Don't give up! keep going!!!

Jami

No, I didn't take my measurements before cause I was

> afraid I'd die of embarrassment and I don't own a body fat caliper.

>

>

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Will,

Take those measurements NOW, and then again in 2 weeks. There are

websites that you can enter your measurements and it will calculate

bodyfat. www.biofitness.com is one that I've been using.

Don't give up! keep going!!!

Jami

No, I didn't take my measurements before cause I was

> afraid I'd die of embarrassment and I don't own a body fat caliper.

>

>

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Will,

Take those measurements NOW, and then again in 2 weeks. There are

websites that you can enter your measurements and it will calculate

bodyfat. www.biofitness.com is one that I've been using.

Don't give up! keep going!!!

Jami

No, I didn't take my measurements before cause I was

> afraid I'd die of embarrassment and I don't own a body fat caliper.

>

>

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