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i wouldnt sign anything i cannot back up or am not comfortable with. patient can

huff and puff but that's all they ever do.

grace

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this

> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going

> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.

>

> patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty

> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2

> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury

> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but

> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having

> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly

> appreciated

>

> Vjshri.

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In non-obvious cases, I don't see it as my role to judge whether they are able

to serve. I give them a letter that lays out my findings, notes that the patient

wishes to be excused, and asks the court to consider their request in light of

my findings. The patient can then choose who to give their medical information

to, and the lawyers/court can decide if they want to compel the person to serve.

Haresch, MD

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this

> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going

> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.

>

> patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty

> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2

> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury

> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but

> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having

> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly

> appreciated

>

> Vjshri.

>

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I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen and perform an exam to evaluate the patient’s headache and vertigo that they are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a civic duty of all citizens. Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannanSent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PMTo: practiceimprovement1 Subject: jury duty excuse letter Hello all,I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of thisgroup has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was goingto see if anyone has an answer for this one.patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury dutydue to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do juryduty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. butshe had intractable migraines prior to that and could be havingfrequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatlyappreciatedVjshri.

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" I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out

of jury duty "

>

> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen

> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they

> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a

> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell

> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a

> civic duty of all citizens.

>

>

>

> Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

>

>

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan

> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM

> To: practiceimprovement1

> Subject: jury duty excuse letter

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this

> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going

> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.

>

> patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty

> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2

> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury

> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but

> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having

> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly

> appreciated

>

> Vjshri.

>

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" I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out

of jury duty "

>

> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen

> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they

> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a

> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell

> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a

> civic duty of all citizens.

>

>

>

> Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

>

>

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan

> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM

> To: practiceimprovement1

> Subject: jury duty excuse letter

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this

> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going

> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.

>

> patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty

> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2

> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury

> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but

> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having

> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly

> appreciated

>

> Vjshri.

>

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" I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out

of jury duty "

>

> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen

> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they

> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a

> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell

> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a

> civic duty of all citizens.

>

>

>

> Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

>

>

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan

> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM

> To: practiceimprovement1

> Subject: jury duty excuse letter

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this

> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going

> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.

>

> patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty

> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2

> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury

> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but

> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having

> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly

> appreciated

>

> Vjshri.

>

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BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to grant Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their job title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and needed care.

This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little impact if at all... got called a few years ago and we could not get out of it no matter what and we were in solo private practice already. To ask someone to completely stop being the one and only service provider in their office or business and take a mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic duty is not sharing the burdon equally as compare to some government worker whose salary we all support and pay and has an actual benefit to pay full salary and not be penalized in any fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they refused to allow her to take a pager or cellphone with her even to the point of saying let a court officer hold onto it, answer it and if it really is a medical call, take a

message, allow a small break in the hearing to allow her to take the call... At least some amount of understanding that she is a doctor caring for the real health of real people whose needs at times are not to be taken lightly or dismissed...

We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate.... Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for????

"Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are closed for the day...." This is now an all too real probably occurance in the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the greater good now isn't it???

To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17 PMSubject: Re: jury duty excuse letter

"I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty">> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a> civic duty of all citizens.> > > > Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO> > > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM> To: practiceimprovement1 > Subject: jury duty excuse letter> > > > > > Hello all,> > I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.> > patient of mine wants me to

write a letter excusing her from jury duty> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly> appreciated> > Vjshri.>

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BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to grant Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their job title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and needed care.

This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little impact if at all... got called a few years ago and we could not get out of it no matter what and we were in solo private practice already. To ask someone to completely stop being the one and only service provider in their office or business and take a mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic duty is not sharing the burdon equally as compare to some government worker whose salary we all support and pay and has an actual benefit to pay full salary and not be penalized in any fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they refused to allow her to take a pager or cellphone with her even to the point of saying let a court officer hold onto it, answer it and if it really is a medical call, take a

message, allow a small break in the hearing to allow her to take the call... At least some amount of understanding that she is a doctor caring for the real health of real people whose needs at times are not to be taken lightly or dismissed...

We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate.... Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for????

"Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are closed for the day...." This is now an all too real probably occurance in the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the greater good now isn't it???

To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17 PMSubject: Re: jury duty excuse letter

"I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty">> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a> civic duty of all citizens.> > > > Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO> > > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM> To: practiceimprovement1 > Subject: jury duty excuse letter> > > > > > Hello all,> > I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.> > patient of mine wants me to

write a letter excusing her from jury duty> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly> appreciated> > Vjshri.>

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BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to grant Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their job title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and needed care.

This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little impact if at all... got called a few years ago and we could not get out of it no matter what and we were in solo private practice already. To ask someone to completely stop being the one and only service provider in their office or business and take a mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic duty is not sharing the burdon equally as compare to some government worker whose salary we all support and pay and has an actual benefit to pay full salary and not be penalized in any fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they refused to allow her to take a pager or cellphone with her even to the point of saying let a court officer hold onto it, answer it and if it really is a medical call, take a

message, allow a small break in the hearing to allow her to take the call... At least some amount of understanding that she is a doctor caring for the real health of real people whose needs at times are not to be taken lightly or dismissed...

We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate.... Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for????

"Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are closed for the day...." This is now an all too real probably occurance in the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the greater good now isn't it???

To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17 PMSubject: Re: jury duty excuse letter

"I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty">> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a> civic duty of all citizens.> > > > Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO> > > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM> To: practiceimprovement1 > Subject: jury duty excuse letter> > > > > > Hello all,> > I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.> > patient of mine wants me to

write a letter excusing her from jury duty> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly> appreciated> > Vjshri.>

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Same in NJ. They won’t consider financial hardship

either if self-employed.

I have been refusing to write letters lately unless I really

feel that physically or emotionally they can’t do it. Otherwise,

it’s not wanting to do it, same as me.

Kathy Saradarian, MD

Branchville, NJ

www.qualityfamilypractice.com

Solo 4/03, Practicing since 9/90

Practice Partner 5/03

Low staffing

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Bleiweiss

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:23 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter

BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to grant

Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their job

title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too

small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a

person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a

jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I

really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of

business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and

needed care.

This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's

best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the

same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little

impact if at all... got called a few years ago and we could not get out

of it no matter what and we were in solo private practice already. To ask

someone to completely stop being the one and only service provider in their office

or business and take a mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic duty is

not sharing the burdon equally as compare to some government worker whose

salary we all support and pay and has an actual benefit to pay full salary and

not be penalized in any fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they refused to

allow her to take a pager or cellphone with her even to the point of saying let

a court officer hold onto it, answer it and if it really is a medical call,

take a message, allow a small break in the hearing to allow her to take the

call... At least some amount of understanding that she is a doctor caring for

the real health of real people whose needs at times are not to be taken lightly

or dismissed...

We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the

husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate....

Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support

awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you

can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your

Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is

serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial

that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for????

" Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going

to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr

the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato

stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system

transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident

instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join

in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are

closed for the day.... " This is now an all too real probably occurance in

the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the

greater good now isn't it???

From: l_spikol

To:

Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17 PM

Subject: Re: jury duty excuse letter

" I would never trust my fate to 12 people

who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty "

>

> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last

seen

> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that

they

> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a

> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell

> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a

> civic duty of all citizens.

>

>

>

> Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

>

>

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay

shri kannan

> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM

> To: practiceimprovement1

> Subject: jury duty excuse letter

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this

> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going

> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.

>

> patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty

> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2

> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury

> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but

> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having

> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly

> appreciated

>

> Vjshri.

>

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Same in NJ. They won’t consider financial hardship

either if self-employed.

I have been refusing to write letters lately unless I really

feel that physically or emotionally they can’t do it. Otherwise,

it’s not wanting to do it, same as me.

Kathy Saradarian, MD

Branchville, NJ

www.qualityfamilypractice.com

Solo 4/03, Practicing since 9/90

Practice Partner 5/03

Low staffing

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Bleiweiss

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:23 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter

BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to grant

Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their job

title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too

small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a

person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a

jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I

really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of

business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and

needed care.

This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's

best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the

same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little

impact if at all... got called a few years ago and we could not get out

of it no matter what and we were in solo private practice already. To ask

someone to completely stop being the one and only service provider in their office

or business and take a mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic duty is

not sharing the burdon equally as compare to some government worker whose

salary we all support and pay and has an actual benefit to pay full salary and

not be penalized in any fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they refused to

allow her to take a pager or cellphone with her even to the point of saying let

a court officer hold onto it, answer it and if it really is a medical call,

take a message, allow a small break in the hearing to allow her to take the

call... At least some amount of understanding that she is a doctor caring for

the real health of real people whose needs at times are not to be taken lightly

or dismissed...

We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the

husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate....

Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support

awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you

can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your

Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is

serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial

that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for????

" Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going

to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr

the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato

stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system

transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident

instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join

in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are

closed for the day.... " This is now an all too real probably occurance in

the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the

greater good now isn't it???

From: l_spikol

To:

Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17 PM

Subject: Re: jury duty excuse letter

" I would never trust my fate to 12 people

who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty "

>

> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last

seen

> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that

they

> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a

> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell

> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a

> civic duty of all citizens.

>

>

>

> Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

>

>

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay

shri kannan

> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM

> To: practiceimprovement1

> Subject: jury duty excuse letter

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this

> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going

> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.

>

> patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty

> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2

> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury

> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but

> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having

> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly

> appreciated

>

> Vjshri.

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This is an argument for making jury duty mandatory for everyone except in the most severe cases. My feeling is that if I, a busy solo family physician, can't get out of jury duty, then my patients shouldn't be able to either unless they can't physically get to my office and by extension, the courthouse. SetoSouth Pasadena, CA

"I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty"

>

> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen

> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they

> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a

> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell

> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a

> civic duty of all citizens.

>

>

>

> Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

>

>

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan

> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM

> To: practiceimprovement1

> Subject: jury duty excuse letter

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this

> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going

> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.

>

> patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty

> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2

> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury

> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but

> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having

> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly

> appreciated

>

> Vjshri.

>

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2 years ago I was called to jury duty in November, January and May and ended up losing a week each time, No waiver was given, I got stuck in the jury pools each time, When I bitched about getting called 3 months out of 7, I was told it was just the “luck of the draw. Personally, I think it was more than that, since I refused to give a prescription to the county clerk of courts daughter when she was seen in the ER for a sprained ankle. Pt. was given Rx for naproxen and the mother and the patient both complained that I should have prescribed an appropriate medication like Lortab and that they were going to file a complaint about the daughter’s treatment the daughter received. 2 months after that event is when I started to get multiple jury summons from the clerk of the courts for our county. A coincidence? I think not. Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kathy Saradarian, MDSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:31 PMTo: Subject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter Same in NJ. They won’t consider financial hardship either if self-employed. I have been refusing to write letters lately unless I really feel that physically or emotionally they can’t do it. Otherwise, it’s not wanting to do it, same as me. Kathy Saradarian, MDBranchville, NJwww.qualityfamilypractice.comSolo 4/03, Practicing since 9/90Practice Partner 5/03Low staffing From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of BleiweissSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:23 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to grant Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their job title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and needed care. This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little impact if at all... got called a few years ago and we could not get out of it no matter what and we were in solo private practice already. To ask someone to completely stop being the one and only service provider in their office or business and take a mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic duty is not sharing the burdon equally as compare to some government worker whose salary we all support and pay and has an actual benefit to pay full salary and not be penalized in any fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they refused to allow her to take a pager or cellphone with her even to the point of saying let a court officer hold onto it, answer it and if it really is a medical call, take a message, allow a small break in the hearing to allow her to take the call... At least some amount of understanding that she is a doctor caring for the real health of real people whose needs at times are not to be taken lightly or dismissed... We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate.... Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for???? " Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are closed for the day.... " This is now an all too real probably occurance in the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the greater good now isn't it??? To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17 PMSubject: Re: jury duty excuse letter " I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty " >> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a> civic duty of all citizens.> > > > Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO> > > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM> To: practiceimprovement1 > Subject: jury duty excuse letter> > > > > > Hello all,> > I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.> > patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly> appreciated> > Vjshri.> CyberDefender has scanned this email for potential threats.Version 2.0 / Build 4.03.29.01Get free PC security at http://www.cyberdefender.com

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That is my attitude about it to . If I have to do my civic duty, then everyone else should have to do it too. I don’t care what they had scheduled and why it is inconvenient for them to do jury duty. If I have to go, then by god they need to go too. Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of SetoSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:33 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter This is an argument for making jury duty mandatory for everyone except in the most severe cases. My feeling is that if I, a busy solo family physician, can't get out of jury duty, then my patients shouldn't be able to either unless they can't physically get to my office and by extension, the courthouse. SetoSouth Pasadena, CA " I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty " >> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a> civic duty of all citizens.> > > > Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO> > > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM> To: practiceimprovement1 > Subject: jury duty excuse letter> > > > > > Hello all,> > I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.> > patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly> appreciated> > Vjshri.>

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That is my attitude about it to . If I have to do my civic duty, then everyone else should have to do it too. I don’t care what they had scheduled and why it is inconvenient for them to do jury duty. If I have to go, then by god they need to go too. Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of SetoSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:33 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter This is an argument for making jury duty mandatory for everyone except in the most severe cases. My feeling is that if I, a busy solo family physician, can't get out of jury duty, then my patients shouldn't be able to either unless they can't physically get to my office and by extension, the courthouse. SetoSouth Pasadena, CA " I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty " >> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a> civic duty of all citizens.> > > > Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO> > > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM> To: practiceimprovement1 > Subject: jury duty excuse letter> > > > > > Hello all,> > I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.> > patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly> appreciated> > Vjshri.>

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From what I understood once you had that piece of paper showing that you had served in one court state or county then you were pretty much golden for a good number of years, like 3 years. You have done your service, thank you very much, now you are done for the next "X" amount of time... Now perhaps once for the local and once for the state, but after that you sure as heck should have been good to go. The 3rd one sure does sound like someone was stalking you.... Perhaps you should file a complaint with your State AG's office about gov't abuse. Here in our state sometimes they like that kind of thing. Makes them look like they are manning the shop and doing their jobs...

To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 3:10:27 PMSubject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter

2 years ago I was called to jury duty in November, January and May and ended up losing a week each time, No waiver was given, I got stuck in the jury pools each time, When I bitched about getting called 3 months out of 7, I was told it was just the “luck of the draw. Personally, I think it was more than that, since I refused to give a prescription to the county clerk of courts daughter when she was seen in the ER for a sprained ankle. Pt. was given Rx for naproxen and the mother and the patient both complained that I should have prescribed an appropriate medication like Lortab and that they were going to file a complaint about the daughter’s treatment the daughter received. 2 months after that event is when I started to get multiple jury summons from the clerk of the courts for our county. A coincidence? I think not.

Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kathy Saradarian, MDSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:31 PMTo: Subject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter

Same in NJ. They won’t consider financial hardship either if self-employed.

I have been refusing to write letters lately unless I really feel that physically or emotionally they can’t do it. Otherwise, it’s not wanting to do it, same as me.

Kathy Saradarian, MD

Branchville, NJ

www.qualityfamilypractice.com

Solo 4/03, Practicing since 9/90

Practice Partner 5/03

Low staffing

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of BleiweissSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:23 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter

BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to grant Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their job title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and needed care.

This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little impact if at all... got called a few years ago and we could not get out of it no matter what and we were in solo private practice already. To ask someone to completely stop being the one and only service provider in their office or business and take a mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic duty is not sharing the burdon equally as compare to some government worker whose salary we all support and pay and has an actual benefit to pay full salary and not be penalized in any fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they refused to allow her to take a pager or cellphone with her even to the point of saying let a court officer hold onto it, answer it and if it really is a

medical call, take a message, allow a small break in the hearing to allow her to take the call... At least some amount of understanding that she is a doctor caring for the real health of real people whose needs at times are not to be taken lightly or dismissed...

We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate.... Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for????

"Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are closed for the day...." This is now an all too real probably occurance in the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the greater good now isn't it???

To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17 PMSubject: Re: jury duty excuse letter

"I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty">> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a> civic duty of all citizens.> > > > Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO> > >

> From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM> To: practiceimprovement1 > Subject: jury duty excuse letter> > > > > > Hello all,> > I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going> to see

if anyone has an answer for this one.> > patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly> appreciated> > Vjshri.>

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From what I understood once you had that piece of paper showing that you had served in one court state or county then you were pretty much golden for a good number of years, like 3 years. You have done your service, thank you very much, now you are done for the next "X" amount of time... Now perhaps once for the local and once for the state, but after that you sure as heck should have been good to go. The 3rd one sure does sound like someone was stalking you.... Perhaps you should file a complaint with your State AG's office about gov't abuse. Here in our state sometimes they like that kind of thing. Makes them look like they are manning the shop and doing their jobs...

To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 3:10:27 PMSubject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter

2 years ago I was called to jury duty in November, January and May and ended up losing a week each time, No waiver was given, I got stuck in the jury pools each time, When I bitched about getting called 3 months out of 7, I was told it was just the “luck of the draw. Personally, I think it was more than that, since I refused to give a prescription to the county clerk of courts daughter when she was seen in the ER for a sprained ankle. Pt. was given Rx for naproxen and the mother and the patient both complained that I should have prescribed an appropriate medication like Lortab and that they were going to file a complaint about the daughter’s treatment the daughter received. 2 months after that event is when I started to get multiple jury summons from the clerk of the courts for our county. A coincidence? I think not.

Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kathy Saradarian, MDSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:31 PMTo: Subject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter

Same in NJ. They won’t consider financial hardship either if self-employed.

I have been refusing to write letters lately unless I really feel that physically or emotionally they can’t do it. Otherwise, it’s not wanting to do it, same as me.

Kathy Saradarian, MD

Branchville, NJ

www.qualityfamilypractice.com

Solo 4/03, Practicing since 9/90

Practice Partner 5/03

Low staffing

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of BleiweissSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:23 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter

BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to grant Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their job title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and needed care.

This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little impact if at all... got called a few years ago and we could not get out of it no matter what and we were in solo private practice already. To ask someone to completely stop being the one and only service provider in their office or business and take a mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic duty is not sharing the burdon equally as compare to some government worker whose salary we all support and pay and has an actual benefit to pay full salary and not be penalized in any fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they refused to allow her to take a pager or cellphone with her even to the point of saying let a court officer hold onto it, answer it and if it really is a

medical call, take a message, allow a small break in the hearing to allow her to take the call... At least some amount of understanding that she is a doctor caring for the real health of real people whose needs at times are not to be taken lightly or dismissed...

We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate.... Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for????

"Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are closed for the day...." This is now an all too real probably occurance in the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the greater good now isn't it???

To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17 PMSubject: Re: jury duty excuse letter

"I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty">> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a> civic duty of all citizens.> > > > Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO> > >

> From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM> To: practiceimprovement1 > Subject: jury duty excuse letter> > > > > > Hello all,> > I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going> to see

if anyone has an answer for this one.> > patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly> appreciated> > Vjshri.>

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When I complained about it, I was told that serving one month took care of that month only.  Each month the number of names needed for that month were pulled from the whole pool of eligible persons and that since all eligible adult citizens were in the jury pool each month, it was equally possible to be selected each month and being selected one time did not exempt you for any length of time from being included in the jury pool. Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of BleiweissSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 3:32 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter From what I understood once you had that piece of paper showing that you had served in one court state or county then you were pretty much golden for a good number of years, like 3 years. You have done your service, thank you very much, now you are done for the next " X " amount of time... Now perhaps once for the local and once for the state, but after that you sure as heck should have been good to go. The 3rd one sure does sound like someone was stalking you.... Perhaps you should file a complaint with your State AG's office about gov't abuse. Here in our state sometimes they like that kind of thing. Makes them look like they are manning the shop and doing their jobs... To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 3:10:27 PMSubject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter 2 years ago I was called to jury duty in November, January and May and ended up losing a week each time, No waiver was given, I got stuck in the jury pools each time, When I bitched about getting called 3 months out of 7, I was told it was just the “luck of the draw. Personally, I think it was more than that, since I refused to give a prescription to the county clerk of courts daughter when she was seen in the ER for a sprained ankle. Pt. was given Rx for naproxen and the mother and the patient both complained that I should have prescribed an appropriate medication like Lortab and that they were going to file a complaint about the daughter’s treatment the daughter received. 2 months after that event is when I started to get multiple jury summons from the clerk of the courts for our county. A coincidence? I think not. Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kathy Saradarian, MDSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:31 PMTo: Subject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter Same in NJ. They won’t consider financial hardship either if self-employed. I have been refusing to write letters lately unless I really feel that physically or emotionally they can’t do it. Otherwise, it’s not wanting to do it, same as me. Kathy Saradarian, MDBranchville, NJwww.qualityfamilypractice.comSolo 4/03, Practicing since 9/90Practice Partner 5/03Low staffing From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of BleiweissSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:23 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to grant Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their job title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and needed care. This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little impact if at all... got called a few years ago and we could not get out of it no matter what and we were in solo private practice already. To ask someone to completely stop being the one and only service provider in their office or business and take a mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic duty is not sharing the burdon equally as compare to some government worker whose salary we all support and pay and has an actual benefit to pay full salary and not be penalized in any fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they refused to allow her to take a pager or cellphone with her even to the point of saying let a court officer hold onto it, answer it and if it really is a medical call, take a message, allow a small break in the hearing to allow her to take the call... At least some amount of understanding that she is a doctor caring for the real health of real people whose needs at times are not to be taken lightly or dismissed... We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate.... Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for???? " Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are closed for the day.... " This is now an all too real probably occurance in the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the greater good now isn't it??? To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17 PMSubject: Re: jury duty excuse letter " I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty " >> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a> civic duty of all citizens.> > > > Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO> > > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM> To: practiceimprovement1 > Subject: jury duty excuse letter> > > > > > Hello all,> > I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.> > patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly> appreciated> > Vjshri.> CyberDefender has scanned this email for potential threats.Version 2.0 / Build 4.03.29.01Get free PC security at http://www.cyberdefender.com

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In California,

if you sit in the jury pool room even for only ½ a day, then you are excused

for a year.

Pratt

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Oak Tree Internal Medicine P.C

www.prattmd.info

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Bleiweiss

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:32

PM

To:

Subject: Re:

Re: jury duty excuse letter

From what I understood once you had that piece of paper

showing that you had served in one court state or county then you were pretty

much golden for a good number of years, like 3 years. You have done your

service, thank you very much, now you are done for the next " X "

amount of time... Now perhaps once for the local and once for the state, but

after that you sure as heck should have been good to go. The 3rd one sure does

sound like someone was stalking you.... Perhaps you should file a complaint

with your State AG's office about gov't abuse. Here in our state sometimes they

like that kind of thing. Makes them look like they are manning the shop and

doing their jobs...

From: Beth Sullivan

To:

Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 3:10:27

PM

Subject: RE:

Re: jury duty excuse letter

2 years ago I was called to jury duty in November, January and

May and ended up losing a week each time, No waiver was given, I got stuck in

the jury pools each time, When I bitched about getting called 3 months out of

7, I was told it was just the “luck of the draw. Personally, I think it

was more than that, since I refused to give a prescription to the county clerk of

courts daughter when she was seen in the ER for a sprained ankle. Pt. was

given Rx for naproxen and the mother and the patient both complained that I

should have prescribed an appropriate medication like Lortab and that they were

going to file a complaint about the daughter’s treatment the daughter

received. 2 months after that event is when I started to get multiple

jury summons from the clerk of the courts for our county. A

coincidence? I think not.

Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

From:

[mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Kathy Saradarian, MD

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:31

PM

To:

Subject: RE:

Re: jury duty excuse letter

Same in NJ. They won’t consider financial hardship either

if self-employed.

I have been refusing to write letters lately unless I really

feel that physically or emotionally they can’t do it. Otherwise, it’s not

wanting to do it, same as me.

Kathy Saradarian, MD

Branchville, NJ

www.qualityfamilypractice.com

Solo 4/03, Practicing since 9/90

Practice Partner 5/03

Low staffing

From:

[mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Bleiweiss

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:23

PM

To:

Subject: Re:

Re: jury duty excuse letter

BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to

grant Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their

job title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too

small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a

person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a

jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I

really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of

business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and

needed care.

This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's

best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the

same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little

impact if at all...

got called a few years ago and we could not get out of it no matter what and we

were in solo private practice already. To ask someone to completely stop

being the one and only service provider in their office or business and take a

mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic duty is not sharing the burdon

equally as compare to some government worker whose salary we all support and

pay and has an actual benefit to pay full salary and not be penalized in any

fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they refused to allow her to take a pager

or cellphone with her even to the point of saying let a court officer hold onto

it, answer it and if it really is a medical call, take a message, allow a small

break in the hearing to allow her to take the call... At least some amount of

understanding that she is a doctor caring for the real health of real people

whose needs at times are not to be taken lightly or dismissed...

We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the

husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate....

Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support

awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you

can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your

Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is

serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial

that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for????

" Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going

to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr

the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato

stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system

transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident

instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join

in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are

closed for the day.... " This is now an all too real probably occurance in

the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the

greater good now isn't it???

To:

Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17

PM

Subject:

Re: jury duty excuse letter

" I

would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of

jury duty "

>

> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last

seen

> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that

they

> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a

> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell

> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a

> civic duty of all citizens.

>

>

>

> Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

>

>

>

> From:

> [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan

> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM

> To: practiceimprovement1

> Subject: jury duty excuse letter

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this

> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going

> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.

>

> patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty

> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2

> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury

> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but

> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having

> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly

> appreciated

>

> Vjshri.

>

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In California,

if you sit in the jury pool room even for only ½ a day, then you are excused

for a year.

Pratt

Office Manager

Oak Tree Internal Medicine P.C

www.prattmd.info

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Bleiweiss

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:32

PM

To:

Subject: Re:

Re: jury duty excuse letter

From what I understood once you had that piece of paper

showing that you had served in one court state or county then you were pretty

much golden for a good number of years, like 3 years. You have done your

service, thank you very much, now you are done for the next " X "

amount of time... Now perhaps once for the local and once for the state, but

after that you sure as heck should have been good to go. The 3rd one sure does

sound like someone was stalking you.... Perhaps you should file a complaint

with your State AG's office about gov't abuse. Here in our state sometimes they

like that kind of thing. Makes them look like they are manning the shop and

doing their jobs...

From: Beth Sullivan

To:

Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 3:10:27

PM

Subject: RE:

Re: jury duty excuse letter

2 years ago I was called to jury duty in November, January and

May and ended up losing a week each time, No waiver was given, I got stuck in

the jury pools each time, When I bitched about getting called 3 months out of

7, I was told it was just the “luck of the draw. Personally, I think it

was more than that, since I refused to give a prescription to the county clerk of

courts daughter when she was seen in the ER for a sprained ankle. Pt. was

given Rx for naproxen and the mother and the patient both complained that I

should have prescribed an appropriate medication like Lortab and that they were

going to file a complaint about the daughter’s treatment the daughter

received. 2 months after that event is when I started to get multiple

jury summons from the clerk of the courts for our county. A

coincidence? I think not.

Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

From:

[mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Kathy Saradarian, MD

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:31

PM

To:

Subject: RE:

Re: jury duty excuse letter

Same in NJ. They won’t consider financial hardship either

if self-employed.

I have been refusing to write letters lately unless I really

feel that physically or emotionally they can’t do it. Otherwise, it’s not

wanting to do it, same as me.

Kathy Saradarian, MD

Branchville, NJ

www.qualityfamilypractice.com

Solo 4/03, Practicing since 9/90

Practice Partner 5/03

Low staffing

From:

[mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Bleiweiss

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:23

PM

To:

Subject: Re:

Re: jury duty excuse letter

BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to

grant Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their

job title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too

small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a

person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a

jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I

really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of

business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and

needed care.

This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's

best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the

same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little

impact if at all...

got called a few years ago and we could not get out of it no matter what and we

were in solo private practice already. To ask someone to completely stop

being the one and only service provider in their office or business and take a

mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic duty is not sharing the burdon

equally as compare to some government worker whose salary we all support and

pay and has an actual benefit to pay full salary and not be penalized in any

fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they refused to allow her to take a pager

or cellphone with her even to the point of saying let a court officer hold onto

it, answer it and if it really is a medical call, take a message, allow a small

break in the hearing to allow her to take the call... At least some amount of

understanding that she is a doctor caring for the real health of real people

whose needs at times are not to be taken lightly or dismissed...

We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the

husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate....

Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support

awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you

can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your

Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is

serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial

that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for????

" Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going

to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr

the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato

stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system

transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident

instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join

in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are

closed for the day.... " This is now an all too real probably occurance in

the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the

greater good now isn't it???

To:

Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17

PM

Subject:

Re: jury duty excuse letter

" I

would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of

jury duty "

>

> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last

seen

> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that

they

> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a

> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell

> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a

> civic duty of all citizens.

>

>

>

> Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

>

>

>

> From:

> [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan

> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM

> To: practiceimprovement1

> Subject: jury duty excuse letter

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this

> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going

> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.

>

> patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty

> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2

> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury

> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but

> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having

> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly

> appreciated

>

> Vjshri.

>

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Not the way I have heard it all these years. I know that there are two potential "pools" not sure if it is state and local and then federal or like I said before, county and state... the more I think about I believe it is the former and not the latter.... and as a matter of fact if one gets pulled for either state or local then that are good to go for the next two or three years. Either one makes you whole with both. And that is why I think it is the Federal and the state local way.

Now this is NYS law but at some point it is also part Federal Law because somebody has to give the Feds a pool of jurors for court and grand jury like hearings, right? The idea of allowing the inaccuracies of complete random chance and having all who served having their names thrown right back into the general pool is the most BS thing I have ever heard.... Not the way I have ever heard about it. Now perhaps like voter registration and primary elections there is a lot of variation allowed from state to state, but even so this sounds so not the way things are ever done. You should research this and see if perhaps you could go after this lady for her very possible "Harrassment" and abuse of her official powers in her job... I'd say call the your State AG's office. They tend to know a lot of things about a lot of laws. That or call your local human rights chapter or ACLU too. Sure sounds like you got targeted and harrassed here.

To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 3:57:39 PMSubject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter

When I complained about it, I was told that serving one month took care of that month only. Each month the number of names needed for that month were pulled from the whole pool of eligible persons and that since all eligible adult citizens were in the jury pool each month, it was equally possible to be selected each month and being selected one time did not exempt you for any length of time from being included in the jury pool.

Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of BleiweissSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 3:32 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter

From what I understood once you had that piece of paper showing that you had served in one court state or county then you were pretty much golden for a good number of years, like 3 years. You have done your service, thank you very much, now you are done for the next "X" amount of time... Now perhaps once for the local and once for the state, but after that you sure as heck should have been good to go. The 3rd one sure does sound like someone was stalking you.... Perhaps you should file a complaint with your State AG's office about gov't abuse. Here in our state sometimes they like that kind of thing. Makes them look like they are manning the shop and doing their jobs...

To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 3:10:27 PMSubject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter

2 years ago I was called to jury duty in November, January and May and ended up losing a week each time, No waiver was given, I got stuck in the jury pools each time, When I bitched about getting called 3 months out of 7, I was told it was just the “luck of the draw. Personally, I think it was more than that, since I refused to give a prescription to the county clerk of courts daughter when she was seen in the ER for a sprained ankle. Pt. was given Rx for naproxen and the mother and the patient both complained that I should have prescribed an appropriate medication like Lortab and that they were going to file a complaint about the daughter’s treatment the daughter received. 2 months after that event is when I started to get multiple jury summons from the clerk of the courts for our county. A coincidence? I think not.

Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kathy Saradarian, MDSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:31 PMTo: Subject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter

Same in NJ. They won’t consider financial hardship either if self-employed.

I have been refusing to write letters lately unless I really feel that physically or emotionally they can’t do it. Otherwise, it’s not wanting to do it, same as me.

Kathy Saradarian, MD

Branchville, NJ

www.qualityfamilypractice.com

Solo 4/03, Practicing since 9/90

Practice Partner 5/03

Low staffing

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of BleiweissSent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:23 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter

BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to grant Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their job title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and needed care.

This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little impact if at all... got called a few years ago and we could not get out of it no matter what and we were in solo private practice already. To ask someone to completely stop being the one and only service provider in their office or business and take a mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic duty is not sharing the burdon equally as compare to some government worker whose salary we all support and pay and has an actual benefit to pay full salary and not be penalized in any fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they refused to allow her to take a pager or cellphone with her even to the point of saying let a court officer hold onto it, answer it and if it really is a

medical call, take a message, allow a small break in the hearing to allow her to take the call... At least some amount of understanding that she is a doctor caring for the real health of real people whose needs at times are not to be taken lightly or dismissed...

We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate.... Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for????

"Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are closed for the day...." This is now an all too real probably occurance in the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the greater good now isn't it???

To: Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17 PMSubject: Re: jury duty excuse letter

"I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty">> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last seen> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that they> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a> civic duty of all citizens.> > > > Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO> > >

> From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay shri kannan> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM> To: practiceimprovement1 > Subject: jury duty excuse letter> > > > > > Hello all,> > I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going> to see

if anyone has an answer for this one.> > patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly> appreciated> > Vjshri.>

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Ditto in Colorado. I just got pulled for jury duty, and the

judge did let one man go who said it was a financial hardship for him to miss

any work.  His reason was, being the sole breadwinner for his family, and running

his own (pest control) business, he would not make any money if he missed work

and every nickel and dime was precious.

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Pratt

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:04 PM

To:

Subject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter

In California,

if you sit in the jury pool room even for only ½ a day, then you are excused

for a year.

Pratt

Office Manager

Oak Tree Internal Medicine P.C

www.prattmd.info

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Bleiweiss

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:32 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter

From what I understood once you had

that piece of paper showing that you had served in one court state or county

then you were pretty much golden for a good number of years, like 3 years. You

have done your service, thank you very much, now you are done for the next

" X " amount of time... Now perhaps once for the local and once for the

state, but after that you sure as heck should have been good to go. The 3rd one

sure does sound like someone was stalking you.... Perhaps you should file a

complaint with your State AG's office about gov't abuse. Here in our state sometimes

they like that kind of thing. Makes them look like they are manning the shop

and doing their jobs...

To:

Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 3:10:27 PM

Subject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter

2 years ago I was called to jury duty in November,

January and May and ended up losing a week each time, No waiver was given, I

got stuck in the jury pools each time, When I bitched about getting called 3

months out of 7, I was told it was just the “luck of the draw. Personally,

I think it was more than that, since I refused to give a prescription to the

county clerk of courts daughter when she was seen in the ER for a sprained

ankle. Pt. was given Rx for naproxen and the mother and the patient both

complained that I should have prescribed an appropriate medication like Lortab

and that they were going to file a complaint about the daughter’s treatment the

daughter received. 2 months after that event is when I started to get

multiple jury summons from the clerk of the courts for our county. A

coincidence? I think not.

Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kathy

Saradarian, MD

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:31 PM

To:

Subject: RE: Re: jury duty excuse letter

Same in NJ. They won’t consider

financial hardship either if self-employed.

I have been refusing to write letters

lately unless I really feel that physically or emotionally they can’t do

it. Otherwise, it’s not wanting to do it, same as me.

Kathy Saradarian, MD

Branchville, NJ

www.qualityfamilypractice.com

Solo 4/03, Practicing since 9/90

Practice Partner 5/03

Low staffing

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Bleiweiss

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 2:23 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Re: jury duty excuse letter

BTW, in our County if not our entire state, the court system now refuses to

grant Jury Duty Waivers to ANY and ALL Doctors no matter how important their

job title or if they are like most of us, Solo, solo-solo or otherwise way too

small to afford wasting our time inside the halls of justice. And I too am a

person who supports and would in general like to do my civic duty serving on a

jury to make sure that our present system of justice stay halfway on track. I

really do believe it is really important. But not to the point of going out of

business or leaving pretty sick people without access to their doctors and

needed care.

This to me is just stupid and very dangerous and not in the general public's

best interest. A private doctor or the head of transplant surgery is not the

same as a police officer on a force whose rotation can be shifted with little

impact if at all... got called a few years ago and we could not get out

of it no matter what and we were in solo private practice already. To ask

someone to completely stop being the one and only service provider in their

office or business and take a mutli-thousand dollar hit to perform this civic

duty is not sharing the burdon equally as compare to some government worker

whose salary we all support and pay and has an actual benefit to pay full

salary and not be penalized in any fashion for serving on a jury. Oh and they

refused to allow her to take a pager or cellphone with her even to the point of

saying let a court officer hold onto it, answer it and if it really is a

medical call, take a message, allow a small break in the hearing to allow her

to take the call... At least some amount of understanding that she is a doctor

caring for the real health of real people whose needs at times are not to be

taken lightly or dismissed...

We are friends with this couple and the wife is a neurologist and the

husband until recently was the head of transplant surgery at SUNY Upstate....

Could you imagine if you are the patient who is practically on life support

awaiting the untimely death of another generous human being so hopefully you

can literally continue to live, your heart and lungs finally come thru and your

Surgeon can not be found or allowed out, contacted at all, because he is

serving his required time on some two bit thug's or drunk driver's jury trial

that the state and county refuse to grant such important waivers for????

" Great new Mr , your Heart and Lungs have come thru and we're going

to start to prep you for surgery... BUT I'm Sorry to have to inform you that Dr

the head of transplant surgery is incommunicato

stuck serving his Jury Duty... So instead your 18 hour multi-system

transplant is going to have to be performed by our Chief Resident

instead.... But we'll page Dr and hopefully he can come and join

in, in about 7 hours from now when we can reach him again when the courts are

closed for the day.... " This is now an all too real probably occurance in

the state of NY on a very regular basis.... just insane. Now that's serving the

greater good now isn't it???

From:

l_spikol

To:

Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 1:50:17 PM

Subject: Re: jury duty excuse letter

" I would never trust my fate to 12 people who were not smart enough to

get out of jury duty "

>

> I would have the patient come in for a visit, update history since last

seen

> and perform an exam to evaluate the patient's headache and vertigo that

they

> are claiming makes jury duty undoable. IF after this visit you feel that a

> letter is appropriate, then I would do one. However, I am a real hard sell

> on writing letters like this for patients because I view jury duty as a

> civic duty of all citizens.

>

>

>

> Dr. Beth Sullivan, DO

>

>

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vijay

shri kannan

> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:09 PM

> To: practiceimprovement1

> Subject: jury duty excuse letter

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have been a silent observer for quite a while. being a part of this

> group has helped me find answers to lot of questions. so I was going

> to see if anyone has an answer for this one.

>

> patient of mine wants me to write a letter excusing her from jury duty

> due to migraines and post concussion vertigo. last seen for migraine 2

> years ago. I am not convinced that she is disabled enough to do jury

> duty since she has not been seen for migraines for almost 2 years. but

> she had intractable migraines prior to that and could be having

> frequent attacks. not sure what to do. any help will be greatly

> appreciated

>

> Vjshri.

>

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Several years ago in Illinois, I had to report for jury duty even though my partner (we were in a satellite office) was out of the country and it would have placed a hardship on the practice. I even acknowledged that I knew and had referred patients to some of the doctors who had treated the plaintiff. I was still selected to serve. It turned out to be a worker's comp case.

The following year I received a notice again. I called to question the notice because I had just served. I was told it didn't matter. I had to show up as many times as the notices were received. The third year when I received the notice, I was away at school in land. That was the only way I stopped receiving notices for several years. I had to report for jury duty again a few months ago.

Although, it is definitely inconvenient and the pay doesn't even cover the parking or lunch. It is our civic duty. I have been told we are one of the few countries in the world where people have the opportunity to be heard by a jury of their peers. If I can get called that often it makes it less likely that a patient will receive a letter to excuse them from jury duty from me. If they carry their share of civic responsibility, maybe I won't receive a notice as often

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Several years ago in Illinois, I had to report for jury duty even though my partner (we were in a satellite office) was out of the country and it would have placed a hardship on the practice. I even acknowledged that I knew and had referred patients to some of the doctors who had treated the plaintiff. I was still selected to serve. It turned out to be a worker's comp case.

The following year I received a notice again. I called to question the notice because I had just served. I was told it didn't matter. I had to show up as many times as the notices were received. The third year when I received the notice, I was away at school in land. That was the only way I stopped receiving notices for several years. I had to report for jury duty again a few months ago.

Although, it is definitely inconvenient and the pay doesn't even cover the parking or lunch. It is our civic duty. I have been told we are one of the few countries in the world where people have the opportunity to be heard by a jury of their peers. If I can get called that often it makes it less likely that a patient will receive a letter to excuse them from jury duty from me. If they carry their share of civic responsibility, maybe I won't receive a notice as often

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Several years ago in Illinois, I had to report for jury duty even though my partner (we were in a satellite office) was out of the country and it would have placed a hardship on the practice. I even acknowledged that I knew and had referred patients to some of the doctors who had treated the plaintiff. I was still selected to serve. It turned out to be a worker's comp case.

The following year I received a notice again. I called to question the notice because I had just served. I was told it didn't matter. I had to show up as many times as the notices were received. The third year when I received the notice, I was away at school in land. That was the only way I stopped receiving notices for several years. I had to report for jury duty again a few months ago.

Although, it is definitely inconvenient and the pay doesn't even cover the parking or lunch. It is our civic duty. I have been told we are one of the few countries in the world where people have the opportunity to be heard by a jury of their peers. If I can get called that often it makes it less likely that a patient will receive a letter to excuse them from jury duty from me. If they carry their share of civic responsibility, maybe I won't receive a notice as often

Cheryl

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