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Hi!

I forgot to tell you that I printed out the symptoms we had and listed

them in order -- starting with the symptom that most of us had. I took it to

my local doctor when I went last time and he glanced at it, crumbled it up

and threw it in his garbage can.

That is just one example of my docs. I know all of my friends said that

I should seek another doctor and believe me I have wanted so much to do

that. But as you know I have no health insurance and I was told at the

University of Virginia Medical Center that I would have to have all the

tests run again. I knew I would, but was hoping I didn't have to. Anyway, we

just cannot afford another battery of tests. I will stick with my " doctor "

at Duke and see just what happens with him.

Hugs,

Biddy

Re: Lynn - Immune Systen

>Larry,

>I also agree with some of your statements. That's what is so good about

this

>group you sure get a lot of angles. I would like to see more of the

doctors

>investigate alternative methods so at least they are educated on why they

don't

>approve of them. Aubrey is probably more educated than most. I gave my

>internist copies of Dr Lee's theories about HRT, I haven't seen him since

to find

>out his reactions and opinions, being with an HMO I keep getting other

doctors.

>He did seem glad that I had printed out the information I had on the

natural

>progestrone theory. I do think some doctors are too quick to prescribe

drugs

>as a cure-all but we can't lump them all together. I think the current

medical

>system (primarily the HMOs) keep them so booked that they don't have the

time to

>discuss too much with us but as busy as they are Phil's doctors have been

great.

>

>Have a wonderful New Year. I'm still working on cleaning up my computer

here and

>at work so I don't have a disaster on my hands. I feel pretty secure that

I'm

>okay but it is a good time to clean out old files and make room for the new

and

>if all else fails, I'll have to go out and by a new computer (probably like

a lot

>of other people).

>Peg

>

>OneAVIDman@... wrote:

>

>> Lynn,

>>

>> I agree with a lot of Dirk's comments. I have my own opinion on the

causes of

>> PSC. I don't subscribe to the fact that it is totally an autoimmune

response.

>> A lot of people in this group have too many similar circumstances with

>> contact to certain chemicals that do cause liver damage. And every case

is

>> different with people's systems. Your system will react to external

agents

>> differently from mine. I can also pinpoint certain factors that I feel

are

>> responsible for my UC as well which is suppose to be an autoimmune

response

>> also. Not to say that Aubrey is not correct about the general attitude in

the

>> medical community about the causes of PSC. The specialist don't have all

the

>> answers all the time. One friend of the family was just told by her Dr.

that

>> rheumatoid arthritis cannot be controlled with diet and nutrition. I have

a

>> tape by a Dr. who has proven beyond a doubt that it can be controlled by

>> diet. He did extensive studies with patients and has found certain cause

for

>> arthritis. I also believe that some physicians don't know a lot about

>> supplements and what they can do for an individual. I haven't had any

>> problems with my supplements and I feel GREAT. My UC is not giving me a

>> problem like it use to and my LFTs were all in the normal range my last

Dr.

>> visit. I do agree with Aubrey that some supplements can cause you

problems

>> and I have encountered a few problems along the way. So I don't take

those

>> that give me a problem. I will be changing medical plans in the new year

and

>> I will be talking with the liver specialist and letting them know about

the

>> supplements I'm taking. I will let you know what the outcome is.

>>

>> Aubrey, I certainly appreciate your expertise in the area. You are one of

the

>> survivors of liver transplant and I like hearing what you have to say.

Please

>> don't take any of my comments to be derogatory towards all physicians. I

>> currently have one that has no bedside manner and doesn't know much about

>> supplements at all. Some physicians know only one thing, give out the

meds.

>> We as individuals have to take control of our lives and our medical

>> situations. I have learned so much more from this group in the last year

than

>> I have from my Dr. in the last 3 years. Thank you all.

>>

>> I would say the bottom line is how you feel about taking supplements.

Weigh

>> all the options and if they help you and you are feeling better then it

is

>> worth it.

>>

>> Just my opinion. I hope everyone has a joyous and Happy New Year.

>>

>> Regards, Larry

>>

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