Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Hey , Does anyone else feel like they're in an AA meeting here sometimes? Hi, I'm Me and I'm an Alcholohic (4s'er)....cue us....Hi, Me.) lol. oh well. Welcome to the club!! I would suggest looking through the archives (although I can't actually explain how to do that. Anyone else know how?) b/c ocd and trigger sights and depression are very popular sidekicks to 4s. I have trigger sights and also all my other senses too b/c I think I have 4s under the umbrella of Sensory Integration Disorder. But I know you can find extensive e-mails on these subjects in the archives. You are most definitely not alone in any of those things. Tammy To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 12:31:58 AMSubject: New to this Hi, Just wanted to quickly introduce myself as I have only just found this group after stumbling upon it by accident. I have only just learnt of 4S, and cannot express what a relief it is to finally have a label for what I have and to know that I am not going mad and that it is an actual condition. I actually cried when I found this group! For as long as I can remember I have been plagued by what I know know to be trigger sounds and, as I am just realising, trigger sights. My main sound triggers are eating sounds (chewing, crunching, swallowing, slurping, swishing of liquid in mouth, clinking/scraping of cutlery on teeth), cleaning teeth, banging of cupboard doors, clanking of cutlery & crockery, clicking of heels, flip-flops, scuffing of shoes, keyboard and mouse tapping, finger tapping/clicking, hand clapping, whistling (this is a big one at the moment - I have just started at a new work place where a colleague whistles NON STOP and I feel like I am going absolutely insane). Plus quite a few more!I also think I have trigger sights (I didn't even realise trigger sights existed but it makes a lot of sense!) - amongst others, sights like people chewing gum, eating with their mouth open, and a big one, tapping, twtiching and fidgeting (my family is full of twitchers so it gets pretty hard). Are these fairly common 'trigger sights'?One question - was wondering if anyone knows of a correlation between 4S and OCD and/or depression (I have suffered from both in the past). Would be curious to know. Yahoo!7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Welcome , feels great to find the common ties here doesn't it?  I'm NOT crazy, ands now I no longer have to prove it!Whee,KipFrom the Mind of Gordon  Hi,Just wanted to quickly introduce myself as I have only just found this group after stumbling upon it by accident. I have only just learnt of 4S, and cannot express what a relief it is to finally have a label for what I have and to know that I am not going mad and that it is an actual condition. I actually cried when I found this group! For as long as I can remember I have been plagued by what I know know to be trigger sounds and, as I am just realising, trigger sights. My main sound triggers are eating sounds (chewing, crunching, swallowing, slurping, swishing of liquid in mouth, clinking/scraping of cutlery on teeth), cleaning teeth, banging of cupboard doors, clanking of cutlery & crockery, clicking of heels, flip-flops, scuffing of shoes, keyboard and mouse tapping, finger tapping/clicking, hand clapping, whistling (this is a big one at the moment - I have just started at a new work place where a colleague whistles NON STOP and I feel like I am going absolutely insane). Plus quite a few more!I also think I have trigger sights (I didn't even realise trigger sights existed but it makes a lot of sense!) - amongst others, sights like people chewing gum, eating with their mouth open, and a big one, tapping, twtiching and fidgeting (my family is full of twitchers so it gets pretty hard). Are these fairly common 'trigger sights'?One question - was wondering if anyone knows of a correlation between 4S and OCD and/or depression (I have suffered from both in the past). Would be curious to know. Yahoo!7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7. Check it out. The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I had the same reaction ! I was actually relieved to know that I wasn't the only one experiencing this. All of your triggers are my triggers - and the whistler/hummers - UGH! I actually considered whether I should have my hearing "removed" somehow! I'd rather not hear than live with the sounds and what they do to me. I keep hoping there's a reason for this and a magic pill or treatment will make me like everyone else. It's one thing to be annoyed by a sloppy eater or a gum chewer or popper, but it's entirely a different matter to become as enraged by those sounds as I get. Good luck to all of us in finding either a cure, or a way to cope. Just knowing all of you are out there is actually a huge help already! Subject: Re: New to thisTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 11:27 AM Hey , Does anyone else feel like they're in an AA meeting here sometimes? Hi, I'm Me and I'm an Alcholohic (4s'er)....cue us....Hi, Me.) lol. oh well. Welcome to the club!! I would suggest looking through the archives (although I can't actually explain how to do that. Anyone else know how?) b/c ocd and trigger sights and depression are very popular sidekicks to 4s. I have trigger sights and also all my other senses too b/c I think I have 4s under the umbrella of Sensory Integration Disorder. But I know you can find extensive e-mails on these subjects in the archives. You are most definitely not alone in any of those things. Tammy From: Stroud <rebeccastroud@ rocketmail. com>To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSent: Mon, February 1, 2010 12:31:58 AMSubject: New to this Hi, Just wanted to quickly introduce myself as I have only just found this group after stumbling upon it by accident. I have only just learnt of 4S, and cannot express what a relief it is to finally have a label for what I have and to know that I am not going mad and that it is an actual condition. I actually cried when I found this group! For as long as I can remember I have been plagued by what I know know to be trigger sounds and, as I am just realising, trigger sights. My main sound triggers are eating sounds (chewing, crunching, swallowing, slurping, swishing of liquid in mouth, clinking/scraping of cutlery on teeth), cleaning teeth, banging of cupboard doors, clanking of cutlery & crockery, clicking of heels, flip-flops, scuffing of shoes, keyboard and mouse tapping, finger tapping/clicking, hand clapping, whistling (this is a big one at the moment - I have just started at a new work place where a colleague whistles NON STOP and I feel like I am going absolutely insane). Plus quite a few more!I also think I have trigger sights (I didn't even realise trigger sights existed but it makes a lot of sense!) - amongst others, sights like people chewing gum, eating with their mouth open, and a big one, tapping, twtiching and fidgeting (my family is full of twitchers so it gets pretty hard). Are these fairly common 'trigger sights'?One question - was wondering if anyone knows of a correlation between 4S and OCD and/or depression (I have suffered from both in the past). Would be curious to know. Yahoo!7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I had the same reaction ! I was actually relieved to know that I wasn't the only one experiencing this. All of your triggers are my triggers - and the whistler/hummers - UGH! I actually considered whether I should have my hearing "removed" somehow! I'd rather not hear than live with the sounds and what they do to me. I keep hoping there's a reason for this and a magic pill or treatment will make me like everyone else. It's one thing to be annoyed by a sloppy eater or a gum chewer or popper, but it's entirely a different matter to become as enraged by those sounds as I get. Good luck to all of us in finding either a cure, or a way to cope. Just knowing all of you are out there is actually a huge help already! Subject: Re: New to thisTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 11:27 AM Hey , Does anyone else feel like they're in an AA meeting here sometimes? Hi, I'm Me and I'm an Alcholohic (4s'er)....cue us....Hi, Me.) lol. oh well. Welcome to the club!! I would suggest looking through the archives (although I can't actually explain how to do that. Anyone else know how?) b/c ocd and trigger sights and depression are very popular sidekicks to 4s. I have trigger sights and also all my other senses too b/c I think I have 4s under the umbrella of Sensory Integration Disorder. But I know you can find extensive e-mails on these subjects in the archives. You are most definitely not alone in any of those things. Tammy From: Stroud <rebeccastroud@ rocketmail. com>To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comSent: Mon, February 1, 2010 12:31:58 AMSubject: New to this Hi, Just wanted to quickly introduce myself as I have only just found this group after stumbling upon it by accident. I have only just learnt of 4S, and cannot express what a relief it is to finally have a label for what I have and to know that I am not going mad and that it is an actual condition. I actually cried when I found this group! For as long as I can remember I have been plagued by what I know know to be trigger sounds and, as I am just realising, trigger sights. My main sound triggers are eating sounds (chewing, crunching, swallowing, slurping, swishing of liquid in mouth, clinking/scraping of cutlery on teeth), cleaning teeth, banging of cupboard doors, clanking of cutlery & crockery, clicking of heels, flip-flops, scuffing of shoes, keyboard and mouse tapping, finger tapping/clicking, hand clapping, whistling (this is a big one at the moment - I have just started at a new work place where a colleague whistles NON STOP and I feel like I am going absolutely insane). Plus quite a few more!I also think I have trigger sights (I didn't even realise trigger sights existed but it makes a lot of sense!) - amongst others, sights like people chewing gum, eating with their mouth open, and a big one, tapping, twtiching and fidgeting (my family is full of twitchers so it gets pretty hard). Are these fairly common 'trigger sights'?One question - was wondering if anyone knows of a correlation between 4S and OCD and/or depression (I have suffered from both in the past). Would be curious to know. Yahoo!7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 They are in fact in the nightshade family. Tomato, potato, egglplant, and green pepper have low levels of nicotine in them. > > > Holy crap, seriously? Is it 'cause they're related to nightshade? > > > > = M-F. > > > > To: Soundsensitivity > > From: perfectkiss07@... > > Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:23:13 +0000 > > Subject: Re: New to this > > > > There is nicotine in potatos as well. Crunch crunch. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I think there are two kinds of visual triggers: (1) the kind that mean a trigger sound is about to come (e.g. you see someone getting gum out of their pocket, and you know that they will soon start chomping on it); (2) the kind that has no connection with trigger sounds - they are just really annoying and distracting repetitive movements, like someone jiggling their leg constantly. The first kind are simple conditioned reflexes. The second kind look a bit like annoyance at continual distraction: We seem to have difficulty " shutting off " from many repetitive sights and sounds. Instead of getting used to them, we feel like we keep getting interrupted by them. Anyway, the visual triggers you mention are all like the first kind. Many of us, and perhaps you as well, have visual triggers of the second kind too. > > yes, you have the visual too, i learned that in time, that i can't stand the sight of the triggers either. even before it starts, someone taking the gum out of their purse, the food 'about' to be eaten, the person that triggers you most coming to the dinner table and then worse, watching them take that first bite, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, just thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 maybe i wasn't so bothered when i smoked, never thought about it, i smoked from about 17 till age 37, about the times my triggers came back strong. interesting. > > I smoked " professionally " for about 5 years. Prior to that it was just > the occasional cigarette/cigar here and there. I quit immediately when I > found out I was pregnant. That was about 8 years ago. I haven't looked > back. I didn't use anything to quit, I just stopped one day. > Vicki > > > > Hi, , > > > > Excellent question on OCD, depression relationship. I was reading a > > little about it and learned that oftentimes OCD starts like preteen, early > > adult, or possibly around similar times that 4S starts. Treatment for > > staph > > infection was suggested as a 1st treatment for OCD for kids before > > pursuing > > other avenues of treatment per Wikipedia. So much we don't know. > > > > Just curious, but here's another question. Are there any of us who > > smoke? > > Only curious because they have done studies and found that regular > > treatment with nicotine may ameliorate symptoms of OCD. I quit smoking > > many > > years ago but find myself using Nicorette, especially when I work because > > I > > just feel better. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 maybe i wasn't so bothered when i smoked, never thought about it, i smoked from about 17 till age 37, about the times my triggers came back strong. interesting. > > I smoked " professionally " for about 5 years. Prior to that it was just > the occasional cigarette/cigar here and there. I quit immediately when I > found out I was pregnant. That was about 8 years ago. I haven't looked > back. I didn't use anything to quit, I just stopped one day. > Vicki > > > > Hi, , > > > > Excellent question on OCD, depression relationship. I was reading a > > little about it and learned that oftentimes OCD starts like preteen, early > > adult, or possibly around similar times that 4S starts. Treatment for > > staph > > infection was suggested as a 1st treatment for OCD for kids before > > pursuing > > other avenues of treatment per Wikipedia. So much we don't know. > > > > Just curious, but here's another question. Are there any of us who > > smoke? > > Only curious because they have done studies and found that regular > > treatment with nicotine may ameliorate symptoms of OCD. I quit smoking > > many > > years ago but find myself using Nicorette, especially when I work because > > I > > just feel better. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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