Guest guest Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Different practitioners are going to have different interpretations of testing and different ideas on how to treat, including order. I can give you some thoughts, but your practitioner may have his/her own thoughts, and conflicting thoughts can both be correct. I, personally, would assume positives in Lyme, Bartonella and Babesia from what you posted. I have seen reports that a positive in any testing area is considered a positive by most that are savvy to tick-borne infections. But, like I said, each practitioner will have their own views. Feel free to ask your practitioner questions to clarify things if your he/she does not give you an answer you agree with. It is often reported that Lyme doesn't respond well until you kill the Babesia and Bartonalla first. Many feel it's good to kill the Babesia, than the Bartonella, then the Lyme. Some kill all three at the same time. Some may rotate around. It isn't easy, no matter what you decide. Pleomorphic pathogens of Lyme and Bartonella, can change shape to evade being killed, so it does appear to be taking a long time to kill them. But, symptoms can start decreasing shortly after treatment begins. Babesia is difficult to kill because it's like Malaria. These live inside of cells, which make them difficult to get to. It is often in the news of how tricky it is to conquer Malaria. So, basically, it takes a lot of effort and a lot of patience. A good note, is that now you have some ideas of where symptoms are likely coming from, so now you know what to target. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > > > We just received the Igenex results for our 6-year-old. I don't talk to his DAN until the first of September, so I'm hoping that someone will confirm (what I believe) the results reveal. > > > > Just like the Quest results, the Western Blot results were negative, both IgG and IgM. He only tested positive on Band 41 (Igenex and Quest) and Band 66 (Igenex only). > > > > On the PCR whole blood, he tested negative for genomic and plasmid. > > > > HOWEVER, the PCR serum has a POSITIVE ( " confirmed by southern dot blot " ) genomic and a negative plasmid. It states that " Sample is considered positive if either the genomic or the plasmid is positive. " > > > > Researching the PCR test, I found this, " The PCR Test †" the gold standard for Lyme disease > > Not as well known but very effective is the PCR test. The Polymerase > > Chain Reaction (PCR) test confirms that Lyme bacteria are present in > > the body. The PCR test is relatively new. It is designed to confirm > > that Lyme bacteria DNA are present. A positive PCR test almost always > > guarantees that you have Lyme disease, depending upon the accuracy of > > the lab that performed the work. " http://www.haverfor dwellness. com/lyme_ diagnosis. html > > > > If this is true, then my son must have lyme disease. Correct? > > > > Furthermore, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I would say (based on what my LLMD believes) any positive is a positive. So, he has borrelia, babesia and bartonella. You will likely need an LLMD b/c most DANs are not really able to do much for lyme -- not knowledgeable enough, even the so-called best. So, get a LLMD and have your wife tested. Once she is positive, have yourself tested. My husband, myself and my son all have the 3 Bs and then some. Welcome to the board. Stay here and you can make serious headway treating. Caryn > > We just received the Igenex results for our 6-year-old. I don't talk to his DAN until the first of September, so I'm hoping that someone will confirm (what I believe) the results reveal. > > Just like the Quest results, the Western Blot results were negative, both IgG and IgM. He only tested positive on Band 41 (Igenex and Quest) and Band 66 (Igenex only). > > On the PCR whole blood, he tested negative for genomic and plasmid. > > HOWEVER, the PCR serum has a POSITIVE ( " confirmed by southern dot blot " ) genomic and a negative plasmid. It states that " Sample is considered positive if either the genomic or the plasmid is positive. " > > Researching the PCR test, I found this, " The PCR Test †" the gold standard for Lyme disease > Not as well known but very effective is the PCR test. The Polymerase > Chain Reaction (PCR) test confirms that Lyme bacteria are present in > the body. The PCR test is relatively new. It is designed to confirm > that Lyme bacteria DNA are present. A positive PCR test almost always > guarantees that you have Lyme disease, depending upon the accuracy of > the lab that performed the work. " http://www.haverfordwellness.com/lyme_diagnosis.html > > If this is true, then my son must have lyme disease. Correct? > > Furthermore, his Babesia titers were normal, BUT his Babesia FISH (RNA) test result was POSITIVE. > > His Bartonella titer results were normal for IgM, BUT 1:160 for IgG where <=1:40 is considered negative. The other two coinfections came back with normal titers. > > Correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't this mean that my son has lyme, Babesia, and possibly Bartonella? > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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