Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Di, In one of our appointments with Marlee, i remember her nrsgn telling us one theory on her type of TSC (lipomyelomeningocele.. closed spine)....he said that there is some sort of disruption in the closure of the neural tube...in some cases...the spine would remain open....and another would result in her type of TSC....he went on to theorize that her spine must have " close late " which might explain the elevated AFP screens in the pregnancy. he also told us... " if you were going to stick your hand in the SB grab bag...this is the one to grab as we have a great success rate of correcting the problem with surgery and preventing further nerve damage " so...you see it depends on who you talk to.......some Dr.s will tell you TSC alone is a type of SB......but when i think of SB...i think of the open spine form......so, in " theory " Marlee came " this close " to having SB as well. Make sense??? or am i babbling? Re: A form of Spina Bifida/Question > now i got a question. A neurosurg Dr. looking at my MRI scans the first time > when i was 33 told me that I was 'THIS CLOSE " to having Spina Bifida when I > was born. What did he mean???? Then I told another Dr. about this and he said > that there was no such thing as ALMOST having it. Who is right?? > Both good Dr.s. > > thanks' > di > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 exactly brande...so you see how easy it can be for a patient or parent of a patient to be mislead? i guess the best we can do is research on our own....and take it from that point. yes....this was His theory......and up to a few months ago...the only one i had. when i referred to the open spine form of SB...i wasn't referring to any Degree of deformity at all...but rather offering " one " opinion to understanding the diagnosis that has just been given. so...in your " opinion " which is it..........TSC or SB.....let's say in Marlee's case. and let me throw this in....her insurance refused to pay for her PT with TSC listed as the diagnosis....so her PT changed it to SB saying the SB caused the TSC.....and the developmental delay......not that it really matters at all....but, in her case the SB caused the tether....correct. and keep in mind....i am.....new to all this! cindy Re: A form of Spina Bifida/Question > From what I know, Lipomyelomeningocele is a form of Spina > Bifida...........so, from my view, I would have to say she has Spina Bifida, > and is just not close to it. But I think when people hear about Spina > Bifida, especially those who don't know much about it, they think of the > Open form and severe Deformity. I only say this because you did say she, > well in your words..... " her type of TSC (lipomyelomeningocele.. closed > spine) " . > > I have never heard of a Dr., one of mine, in person, ever referring to > Tethered Cord as Spina Bifida..........but seperate problems, which they > are. However, I have heard some reference to it on the Internet. Not alot, I > think just enough for some people to get the wrong idea. > > I understand you were pretty much talking in theory, though...........so my > thoughts are just showing why that might not be the case. > > Me > Nebraska, USA > mymocha@... > > , i remember her nrsgn telling us one > > theory on her type of TSC (lipomyelomeningocele.. closed spine)....some > Dr.s will tell you TSC alone is a type of SB......but > > when i think of SB...i think of the open spine form......so, in " theory " > > Marlee came " this close " to having SB as well. > > > > Not Medical Advice. We Are Not Doctors. > Need help with the list? Email kathy@...,michelle@..., rick@... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 now i got a question. A neurosurg Dr. looking at my MRI scans the first time when i was 33 told me that I was 'THIS CLOSE " to having Spina Bifida when I was born. What did he mean???? Then I told another Dr. about this and he said that there was no such thing as ALMOST having it. Who is right?? Both good Dr.s. thanks' di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 now i got a question. A neurosurg Dr. looking at my MRI scans the first time when i was 33 told me that I was 'THIS CLOSE " to having Spina Bifida when I was born. What did he mean???? Then I told another Dr. about this and he said that there was no such thing as ALMOST having it. Who is right?? Both good Dr.s. thanks' di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 now i got a question. A neurosurg Dr. looking at my MRI scans the first time when i was 33 told me that I was 'THIS CLOSE " to having Spina Bifida when I was born. What did he mean???? Then I told another Dr. about this and he said that there was no such thing as ALMOST having it. Who is right?? Both good Dr.s. thanks' di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Good question.........it would make me a bit suspicious, too. Hopefully somebody else will be able to give you more insight into this. Me Nebraska, USA mymocha@... A neurosurg Dr. looking at my MRI scans the first time > when i was 33 told me that I was 'THIS CLOSE " to having Spina Bifida when I > was born. What did he mean???? Then I told another Dr. about this and he said > that there was no such thing as ALMOST having it. Who is right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Hello Di, I think the ALMOST Dr. would have to clarify exactly what he meant. (This all reminds me of a saying of my grandparents, " No such thing as a little bit pregnant " .) 's mom Re: A form of Spina Bifida/Question now i got a question. A neurosurg Dr. looking at my MRI scans the first time when i was 33 told me that I was 'THIS CLOSE " to having Spina Bifida when I was born. What did he mean???? Then I told another Dr. about this and he said that there was no such thing as ALMOST having it. Who is right?? Both good Dr.s. thanks' di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Hello Di, I think the ALMOST Dr. would have to clarify exactly what he meant. (This all reminds me of a saying of my grandparents, " No such thing as a little bit pregnant " .) 's mom Re: A form of Spina Bifida/Question now i got a question. A neurosurg Dr. looking at my MRI scans the first time when i was 33 told me that I was 'THIS CLOSE " to having Spina Bifida when I was born. What did he mean???? Then I told another Dr. about this and he said that there was no such thing as ALMOST having it. Who is right?? Both good Dr.s. thanks' di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Hello Di, I think the ALMOST Dr. would have to clarify exactly what he meant. (This all reminds me of a saying of my grandparents, " No such thing as a little bit pregnant " .) 's mom Re: A form of Spina Bifida/Question now i got a question. A neurosurg Dr. looking at my MRI scans the first time when i was 33 told me that I was 'THIS CLOSE " to having Spina Bifida when I was born. What did he mean???? Then I told another Dr. about this and he said that there was no such thing as ALMOST having it. Who is right?? Both good Dr.s. thanks' di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 now i got a question. A neurosurg Dr. looking at my MRI scans the first time when i was 33 told me that I was 'THIS CLOSE " to having Spina Bifida when I was born. What did he mean???? Then I told another Dr. about this and he said that there was no such thing as ALMOST having it. Who is right?? Both good Dr.s. thanks' di I don't know about that Di If a doctor told me that I'd think I had Spinal Bifida. -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Di, Did you ask that doctor how can you be that close to having Spinal Bifida? -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 But you can have a close back and still have spinal bifida but before this group I thought only spinal bifida people can have a tethered cord to people that don't know anything about spinal bifida would be very confused with that though but of course when i told this one lady my son had spinal bifida she thought i was talking about a drug so she already confused just by saying my son has spinal bifida who knows -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 But you can have a close back and still have spinal bifida but before this group I thought only spinal bifida people can have a tethered cord to people that don't know anything about spinal bifida would be very confused with that though but of course when i told this one lady my son had spinal bifida she thought i was talking about a drug so she already confused just by saying my son has spinal bifida who knows -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 But you can have a close back and still have spinal bifida but before this group I thought only spinal bifida people can have a tethered cord to people that don't know anything about spinal bifida would be very confused with that though but of course when i told this one lady my son had spinal bifida she thought i was talking about a drug so she already confused just by saying my son has spinal bifida who knows -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 From what I know, Lipomyelomeningocele is a form of Spina Bifida...........so, from my view, I would have to say she has Spina Bifida, and is just not close to it. But I think when people hear about Spina Bifida, especially those who don't know much about it, they think of the Open form and severe Deformity. I only say this because you did say she, well in your words..... " her type of TSC (lipomyelomeningocele.. closed spine) " . I have never heard of a Dr., one of mine, in person, ever referring to Tethered Cord as Spina Bifida..........but seperate problems, which they are. However, I have heard some reference to it on the Internet. Not alot, I think just enough for some people to get the wrong idea. I understand you were pretty much talking in theory, though...........so my thoughts are just showing why that might not be the case. Me Nebraska, USA mymocha@... , i remember her nrsgn telling us one > theory on her type of TSC (lipomyelomeningocele.. closed spine)....some Dr.s will tell you TSC alone is a type of SB......but > when i think of SB...i think of the open spine form......so, in " theory " > Marlee came " this close " to having SB as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 From what I know, Lipomyelomeningocele is a form of Spina Bifida...........so, from my view, I would have to say she has Spina Bifida, and is just not close to it. But I think when people hear about Spina Bifida, especially those who don't know much about it, they think of the Open form and severe Deformity. I only say this because you did say she, well in your words..... " her type of TSC (lipomyelomeningocele.. closed spine) " . I have never heard of a Dr., one of mine, in person, ever referring to Tethered Cord as Spina Bifida..........but seperate problems, which they are. However, I have heard some reference to it on the Internet. Not alot, I think just enough for some people to get the wrong idea. I understand you were pretty much talking in theory, though...........so my thoughts are just showing why that might not be the case. Me Nebraska, USA mymocha@... , i remember her nrsgn telling us one > theory on her type of TSC (lipomyelomeningocele.. closed spine)....some Dr.s will tell you TSC alone is a type of SB......but > when i think of SB...i think of the open spine form......so, in " theory " > Marlee came " this close " to having SB as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Yes, I definately do. I agree. No, I know you didn't say that...........but I think that is how the general public views it, if they don't have any real connection or idea of what it is about..............they think it is always scary and horrible..........and it isn't always like that. In my opinion, I would say she has both...........Lipomyelomeingocele which inevitably led to Tethered Cord. I think that is how others with the same view it, atleast from what I have heard. Yes, that is correct. It is ashame about Insurance, isn't it? I know. Sometimes I feel like this is new to me also.........there is always something new that pops up. Me Nebraska, USA mymocha@... ...so you see how easy it can be for a patient or parent of a > patient to be mislead? i guess the best we can do is research on our > own....and take it from that point. > when i referred to the open spine form of SB...i wasn't referring to any > Degree of deformity at all... > > so...in your " opinion " which is it..........TSC or SB.....let's say in > Marlee's case. but, in her case the SB caused the > tether....correct. > > and keep in mind....i am.....new to all this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 so if one has that fatty tumor thing with the tether that is a something menigocele? Di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 so if one has that fatty tumor thing with the tether that is a something menigocele? Di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 so if one has that fatty tumor thing with the tether that is a something menigocele? Di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Yeah, sort of....... there is Lipomeningocele and Lipomyelomeningocele. But yet then you can have a real small Lipoma like me, and it not be associated with your Tether. So I still have Myelomeningocele with a Lipoma. I think I may have confused myself. lol Hope that helps. Me Nebraska, USA mymocha@... > so if one has that fatty tumor thing with the tether that is a something > menigocele? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Yeah, sort of....... there is Lipomeningocele and Lipomyelomeningocele. But yet then you can have a real small Lipoma like me, and it not be associated with your Tether. So I still have Myelomeningocele with a Lipoma. I think I may have confused myself. lol Hope that helps. Me Nebraska, USA mymocha@... > so if one has that fatty tumor thing with the tether that is a something > menigocele? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Yeah, sort of....... there is Lipomeningocele and Lipomyelomeningocele. But yet then you can have a real small Lipoma like me, and it not be associated with your Tether. So I still have Myelomeningocele with a Lipoma. I think I may have confused myself. lol Hope that helps. Me Nebraska, USA mymocha@... > so if one has that fatty tumor thing with the tether that is a something > menigocele? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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