Re: coming to terms with everything

[Guest guest]

Tara,

It is so assuring to hear that someone else has gone through the

same thing with mental diagnoises as I have. Just as your mom is

judgemental of others my mom is too. She diagnosoised all my

friends and said my best friend growing up was suicidal and

unhealthy;therefore, I could not hang out with her. First of all,my

friend was just upset, she had a physical disabilty to deal with

growing up that made life more challenging. Second of all, if

someone is suicidal you stay with them through the rough times not

dissociate from them! People who are suicidal need to know they are

loved!!!

I think a lot of the reason why our mothers diagnoised everyone else

was because they were projecting their feelings of themselves onto

other people. Though,as a kid growing up you dont understand this

phenomenon and instead internalize it.

I have gone through so many self esteem issues because of this. As

a child I learned to keep all my feeling inside. I was taught

feelings are bad. I rarely cried in front of my mom it was always

behind closed doors, during school or at night that I shed the most

tears. I felt like a robot at home. I was just supposed to walk

around do chores,homework, and babysit siblings...:::sigh:::

At least that's in the past...The future is bright. Spring is on

its way! And during all those rough times it really seemed like God

was looking out for me. There was always an " angel " to keep me on

the right track.

~Tori

> > > >

> > > > So if I were to use BP logic all one needs to do to get rich

is

> > have

> > > there

> > > > spouse pee after them and only flush once! ROFL! I crack

> myself

> > up!

> > > We

> > > > should all write a book of BP humor!

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > I can't believe my dad puts up with this...but they will

have a

> > room

> > > for of

> > > > guests, nada will go pee, when she's done, come back and

tell

> dad

> > > it's his

> > > > turn...

> > > >

> > > > Jackie

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Tara,

It is so assuring to hear that someone else has gone through the

same thing with mental diagnoises as I have. Just as your mom is

judgemental of others my mom is too. She diagnosoised all my

friends and said my best friend growing up was suicidal and

unhealthy;therefore, I could not hang out with her. First of all,my

friend was just upset, she had a physical disabilty to deal with

growing up that made life more challenging. Second of all, if

someone is suicidal you stay with them through the rough times not

dissociate from them! People who are suicidal need to know they are

loved!!!

I think a lot of the reason why our mothers diagnoised everyone else

was because they were projecting their feelings of themselves onto

other people. Though,as a kid growing up you dont understand this

phenomenon and instead internalize it.

I have gone through so many self esteem issues because of this. As

a child I learned to keep all my feeling inside. I was taught

feelings are bad. I rarely cried in front of my mom it was always

behind closed doors, during school or at night that I shed the most

tears. I felt like a robot at home. I was just supposed to walk

around do chores,homework, and babysit siblings...:::sigh:::

At least that's in the past...The future is bright. Spring is on

its way! And during all those rough times it really seemed like God

was looking out for me. There was always an " angel " to keep me on

the right track.

~Tori

> > > >

> > > > So if I were to use BP logic all one needs to do to get rich

is

> > have

> > > there

> > > > spouse pee after them and only flush once! ROFL! I crack

> myself

> > up!

> > > We

> > > > should all write a book of BP humor!

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > I can't believe my dad puts up with this...but they will

have a

> > room

> > > for of

> > > > guests, nada will go pee, when she's done, come back and

tell

> dad

> > > it's his

> > > > turn...

> > > >

> > > > Jackie

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

i got this BPD mom who i tried to point out was bpd - oh BIG

MISTAKE! i suggest it to her and starts and making fun of me because

i think i am such an " expert " she twists EVERYTHING around.

> > > >

> > > > So if I were to use BP logic all one needs to do to get rich

is

> > have

> > > there

> > > > spouse pee after them and only flush once! ROFL! I crack

> myself

> > up!

> > > We

> > > > should all write a book of BP humor!

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > I can't believe my dad puts up with this...but they will have

a

> > room

> > > for of

> > > > guests, nada will go pee, when she's done, come back and tell

> dad

> > > it's his

> > > > turn...

> > > >

> > > > Jackie

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

i got this BPD mom who i tried to point out was bpd - oh BIG

MISTAKE! i suggest it to her and starts and making fun of me because

i think i am such an " expert " she twists EVERYTHING around.

> > > >

> > > > So if I were to use BP logic all one needs to do to get rich

is

> > have

> > > there

> > > > spouse pee after them and only flush once! ROFL! I crack

> myself

> > up!

> > > We

> > > > should all write a book of BP humor!

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > I can't believe my dad puts up with this...but they will have

a

> > room

> > > for of

> > > > guests, nada will go pee, when she's done, come back and tell

> dad

> > > it's his

> > > > turn...

> > > >

> > > > Jackie

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My nada is an extreeme know-it-all too! The problem is that on many

topics she does know a lot of stuff, but to her legitimate knowledge

is easily interchanged with completely wacko information from

questionable sources. She acts like yahoo answers contains the " truth "

and will actually use the fact that she learned something on yahoo

answers as definitive proof that it's true. She says such strange

things, like claiming that certain politicians are cannibals. I'm sure

she read it on some conspiracy theory website run by paraniod crazies,

but the shadier the source, the more true it must be!

God, there is no arguing with her. And she had me convinced of quite a

few rediculous things in the past. I was sure I was autistic

(seriously, what the hell?? I asked my psychiatrist very seriously if

it was true, and she just burst out laughing. I'd never seen her do

that before.), that I was two sizes bigger than I am (and my clothes

were always falling off because they were too big. The only reason I

figured it out was because my friends would ask my why my clothes were

so big), that I had an allergy to basil, on and on.

Her know-it-all-ness reached a brick wall when I started grad school

and started to know more than she does about one of her favorite doom

and gloom subjects. It's just great when she corrects my pronunciation

of a word, and I tell her 'well, that's how all my professors say it'.

Melany

[Guest guest]

My nada is an extreeme know-it-all too! The problem is that on many

topics she does know a lot of stuff, but to her legitimate knowledge

is easily interchanged with completely wacko information from

questionable sources. She acts like yahoo answers contains the " truth "

and will actually use the fact that she learned something on yahoo

answers as definitive proof that it's true. She says such strange

things, like claiming that certain politicians are cannibals. I'm sure

she read it on some conspiracy theory website run by paraniod crazies,

but the shadier the source, the more true it must be!

God, there is no arguing with her. And she had me convinced of quite a

few rediculous things in the past. I was sure I was autistic

(seriously, what the hell?? I asked my psychiatrist very seriously if

it was true, and she just burst out laughing. I'd never seen her do

that before.), that I was two sizes bigger than I am (and my clothes

were always falling off because they were too big. The only reason I

figured it out was because my friends would ask my why my clothes were

so big), that I had an allergy to basil, on and on.

Her know-it-all-ness reached a brick wall when I started grad school

and started to know more than she does about one of her favorite doom

and gloom subjects. It's just great when she corrects my pronunciation

of a word, and I tell her 'well, that's how all my professors say it'.

Melany

[Guest guest]

She also loves tossing around names of medical conditions,just to

hint that you might have one, and then once she succeeds in getting

someone worried she can comfort them...whenever I had a mole as a

child she would convince me that it was skin cancer!! I still have

hypochondriac tendencies from those experiences, I think...

Sara

oh, this is SO like my nada...my nada decided I had lupus when I was in high

school...I have a very ruddy complexion and I'm very light skined/natural

blonde and blush easily, or when I'm angry or excited ( I HATE that !!) and

she decided because it's bascially over my cheeks and nose, that is the

butterfly pattern of lupus...almost every time we'd visit, she'd bring up

that I must have lupus...and that it's a painful death..and there is no

cure...( I did get checked out once for lupus...I do not have it, and I do

not have any other symptoms) any time I'd say anything like my arthritis is

acting up and my knees or ankles hurt.. " oh, its the lupus " like she'd take

such delight if I were sick...

Jackie

[Guest guest]

She also loves tossing around names of medical conditions,just to

hint that you might have one, and then once she succeeds in getting

someone worried she can comfort them...whenever I had a mole as a

child she would convince me that it was skin cancer!! I still have

hypochondriac tendencies from those experiences, I think...

Sara

oh, this is SO like my nada...my nada decided I had lupus when I was in high

school...I have a very ruddy complexion and I'm very light skined/natural

blonde and blush easily, or when I'm angry or excited ( I HATE that !!) and

she decided because it's bascially over my cheeks and nose, that is the

butterfly pattern of lupus...almost every time we'd visit, she'd bring up

that I must have lupus...and that it's a painful death..and there is no

cure...( I did get checked out once for lupus...I do not have it, and I do

not have any other symptoms) any time I'd say anything like my arthritis is

acting up and my knees or ankles hurt.. " oh, its the lupus " like she'd take

such delight if I were sick...

Jackie

[Guest guest]

She also loves tossing around names of medical conditions,just to

hint that you might have one, and then once she succeeds in getting

someone worried she can comfort them...whenever I had a mole as a

child she would convince me that it was skin cancer!! I still have

hypochondriac tendencies from those experiences, I think...

Sara

oh, this is SO like my nada...my nada decided I had lupus when I was in high

school...I have a very ruddy complexion and I'm very light skined/natural

blonde and blush easily, or when I'm angry or excited ( I HATE that !!) and

she decided because it's bascially over my cheeks and nose, that is the

butterfly pattern of lupus...almost every time we'd visit, she'd bring up

that I must have lupus...and that it's a painful death..and there is no

cure...( I did get checked out once for lupus...I do not have it, and I do

not have any other symptoms) any time I'd say anything like my arthritis is

acting up and my knees or ankles hurt.. " oh, its the lupus " like she'd take

such delight if I were sick...

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Oh,Jackie, that is awful!

When I was three or four, for some reason I had a case of athlete's

foot, which disappeared on its own after a few months...she had this

story about how it was going to give me cancer of the foot.

My mother loved to tell her children that they were sick, but never

had any interest in, say, taking them to the doctor if they were

ill. Especially with mental illness - she told me for years that

depression ran in the family (ie she had it, self-diagnosed) and

that I must be clinically depressed but never made any move to

suggest I see a psychologist or even a school counselor. I'm not

even sure if I was depressed - I sure as heck wasn't happy but it

was definitely a diagnosis she needed to project onto me. As a

mother myself now, I can really see how bizarre such behavior is!

My psychotherapist explained that it is a form of Munchhausen's -

not that she ever poisoned us but that she needed her children to be

unwell to feel like a good mother. Wow.

>

> She also loves tossing around names of medical conditions,just to

> hint that you might have one, and then once she succeeds in getting

> someone worried she can comfort them...whenever I had a mole as a

> child she would convince me that it was skin cancer!! I still have

> hypochondriac tendencies from those experiences, I think...

>

> Sara

>

> oh, this is SO like my nada...my nada decided I had lupus when I

was in high

> school...I have a very ruddy complexion and I'm very light

skined/natural

> blonde and blush easily, or when I'm angry or excited ( I HATE

that !!) and

> she decided because it's bascially over my cheeks and nose, that

is the

> butterfly pattern of lupus...almost every time we'd visit, she'd

bring up

> that I must have lupus...and that it's a painful death..and there

is no

> cure...( I did get checked out once for lupus...I do not have it,

and I do

> not have any other symptoms) any time I'd say anything like my

arthritis is

> acting up and my knees or ankles hurt.. " oh, its the lupus " like

she'd take

> such delight if I were sick...

>

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

Oh,Jackie, that is awful!

When I was three or four, for some reason I had a case of athlete's

foot, which disappeared on its own after a few months...she had this

story about how it was going to give me cancer of the foot.

My mother loved to tell her children that they were sick, but never

had any interest in, say, taking them to the doctor if they were

ill. Especially with mental illness - she told me for years that

depression ran in the family (ie she had it, self-diagnosed) and

that I must be clinically depressed but never made any move to

suggest I see a psychologist or even a school counselor. I'm not

even sure if I was depressed - I sure as heck wasn't happy but it

was definitely a diagnosis she needed to project onto me. As a

mother myself now, I can really see how bizarre such behavior is!

My psychotherapist explained that it is a form of Munchhausen's -

not that she ever poisoned us but that she needed her children to be

unwell to feel like a good mother. Wow.

>

> She also loves tossing around names of medical conditions,just to

> hint that you might have one, and then once she succeeds in getting

> someone worried she can comfort them...whenever I had a mole as a

> child she would convince me that it was skin cancer!! I still have

> hypochondriac tendencies from those experiences, I think...

>

> Sara

>

> oh, this is SO like my nada...my nada decided I had lupus when I

was in high

> school...I have a very ruddy complexion and I'm very light

skined/natural

> blonde and blush easily, or when I'm angry or excited ( I HATE

that !!) and

> she decided because it's bascially over my cheeks and nose, that

is the

> butterfly pattern of lupus...almost every time we'd visit, she'd

bring up

> that I must have lupus...and that it's a painful death..and there

is no

> cure...( I did get checked out once for lupus...I do not have it,

and I do

> not have any other symptoms) any time I'd say anything like my

arthritis is

> acting up and my knees or ankles hurt.. " oh, its the lupus " like

she'd take

> such delight if I were sick...

>

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

My mom (and RN) is going around telling people that my sudden change in

personality (change in personality because I don't put up with her crap

anymore) is because I had my large intestine removed. Did you know that

removing a large intestine changes a personality? I mean I knew I was anal,

but this is just silly! She said a doctor told her this.

The events surrounding needing my colon removed knocked some sense into me

and I came out of Oz, but my lack of a colon hasn't altered my mental state.

If anything, I am more " me " than I have ever been. But blame it on the butt

.. . .

_____

From: WTOAdultChildren1

[mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of sage153

Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 2:36 PM

To: WTOAdultChildren1

Subject: Re: coming to terms with everything

Oh,Jackie, that is awful!

When I was three or four, for some reason I had a case of athlete's

foot, which disappeared on its own after a few months...she had this

story about how it was going to give me cancer of the foot.

My mother loved to tell her children that they were sick, but never

had any interest in, say, taking them to the doctor if they were

ill. Especially with mental illness - she told me for years that

depression ran in the family (ie she had it, self-diagnosed) and

that I must be clinically depressed but never made any move to

suggest I see a psychologist or even a school counselor. I'm not

even sure if I was depressed - I sure as heck wasn't happy but it

was definitely a diagnosis she needed to project onto me. As a

mother myself now, I can really see how bizarre such behavior is!

My psychotherapist explained that it is a form of Munchhausen's -

not that she ever poisoned us but that she needed her children to be

unwell to feel like a good mother. Wow.

>

> She also loves tossing around names of medical conditions,just to

> hint that you might have one, and then once she succeeds in getting

> someone worried she can comfort them...whenever I had a mole as a

> child she would convince me that it was skin cancer!! I still have

> hypochondriac tendencies from those experiences, I think...

>

> Sara

>

> oh, this is SO like my nada...my nada decided I had lupus when I

was in high

> school...I have a very ruddy complexion and I'm very light

skined/natural

> blonde and blush easily, or when I'm angry or excited ( I HATE

that !!) and

> she decided because it's bascially over my cheeks and nose, that

is the

> butterfly pattern of lupus...almost every time we'd visit, she'd

bring up

> that I must have lupus...and that it's a painful death..and there

is no

> cure...( I did get checked out once for lupus...I do not have it,

and I do

> not have any other symptoms) any time I'd say anything like my

arthritis is

> acting up and my knees or ankles hurt.. " oh, its the lupus " like

she'd take

> such delight if I were sick...

>

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

My mom (and RN) is going around telling people that my sudden change in

personality (change in personality because I don't put up with her crap

anymore) is because I had my large intestine removed. Did you know that

removing a large intestine changes a personality? I mean I knew I was anal,

but this is just silly! She said a doctor told her this.

The events surrounding needing my colon removed knocked some sense into me

and I came out of Oz, but my lack of a colon hasn't altered my mental state.

If anything, I am more " me " than I have ever been. But blame it on the butt

.. . .

_____

From: WTOAdultChildren1

[mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of sage153

Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 2:36 PM

To: WTOAdultChildren1

Subject: Re: coming to terms with everything

Oh,Jackie, that is awful!

When I was three or four, for some reason I had a case of athlete's

foot, which disappeared on its own after a few months...she had this

story about how it was going to give me cancer of the foot.

My mother loved to tell her children that they were sick, but never

had any interest in, say, taking them to the doctor if they were

ill. Especially with mental illness - she told me for years that

depression ran in the family (ie she had it, self-diagnosed) and

that I must be clinically depressed but never made any move to

suggest I see a psychologist or even a school counselor. I'm not

even sure if I was depressed - I sure as heck wasn't happy but it

was definitely a diagnosis she needed to project onto me. As a

mother myself now, I can really see how bizarre such behavior is!

My psychotherapist explained that it is a form of Munchhausen's -

not that she ever poisoned us but that she needed her children to be

unwell to feel like a good mother. Wow.

>

> She also loves tossing around names of medical conditions,just to

> hint that you might have one, and then once she succeeds in getting

> someone worried she can comfort them...whenever I had a mole as a

> child she would convince me that it was skin cancer!! I still have

> hypochondriac tendencies from those experiences, I think...

>

> Sara

>

> oh, this is SO like my nada...my nada decided I had lupus when I

was in high

> school...I have a very ruddy complexion and I'm very light

skined/natural

> blonde and blush easily, or when I'm angry or excited ( I HATE

that !!) and

> she decided because it's bascially over my cheeks and nose, that

is the

> butterfly pattern of lupus...almost every time we'd visit, she'd

bring up

> that I must have lupus...and that it's a painful death..and there

is no

> cure...( I did get checked out once for lupus...I do not have it,

and I do

> not have any other symptoms) any time I'd say anything like my

arthritis is

> acting up and my knees or ankles hurt.. " oh, its the lupus " like

she'd take

> such delight if I were sick...

>

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

My nada is a nurse as well...she always falls back on this as the

basis for some of her more dubious medical assertions!

> >

> > She also loves tossing around names of medical conditions,just to

> > hint that you might have one, and then once she succeeds in

getting

> > someone worried she can comfort them...whenever I had a mole as a

> > child she would convince me that it was skin cancer!! I still

have

> > hypochondriac tendencies from those experiences, I think...

> >

> > Sara

> >

> > oh, this is SO like my nada...my nada decided I had lupus when I

> was in high

> > school...I have a very ruddy complexion and I'm very light

> skined/natural

> > blonde and blush easily, or when I'm angry or excited ( I HATE

> that !!) and

> > she decided because it's bascially over my cheeks and nose, that

> is the

> > butterfly pattern of lupus...almost every time we'd visit, she'd

> bring up

> > that I must have lupus...and that it's a painful death..and

there

> is no

> > cure...( I did get checked out once for lupus...I do not have

it,

> and I do

> > not have any other symptoms) any time I'd say anything like my

> arthritis is

> > acting up and my knees or ankles hurt.. " oh, its the lupus " like

> she'd take

> > such delight if I were sick...

> >

> > Jackie

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My nada is a nurse as well...she always falls back on this as the

basis for some of her more dubious medical assertions!

> >

> > She also loves tossing around names of medical conditions,just to

> > hint that you might have one, and then once she succeeds in

getting

> > someone worried she can comfort them...whenever I had a mole as a

> > child she would convince me that it was skin cancer!! I still

have

> > hypochondriac tendencies from those experiences, I think...

> >

> > Sara

> >

> > oh, this is SO like my nada...my nada decided I had lupus when I

> was in high

> > school...I have a very ruddy complexion and I'm very light

> skined/natural

> > blonde and blush easily, or when I'm angry or excited ( I HATE

> that !!) and

> > she decided because it's bascially over my cheeks and nose, that

> is the

> > butterfly pattern of lupus...almost every time we'd visit, she'd

> bring up

> > that I must have lupus...and that it's a painful death..and

there

> is no

> > cure...( I did get checked out once for lupus...I do not have

it,

> and I do

> > not have any other symptoms) any time I'd say anything like my

> arthritis is

> > acting up and my knees or ankles hurt.. " oh, its the lupus " like

> she'd take

> > such delight if I were sick...

> >

> > Jackie

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thanks for explaining this..I didn't know if it was just the meanness in my

nada or what..I was always scared I was going to die of this...and you're

right..she never took me to the doctors to get it checked..I checked it out

once I was married..all the cuts/scrapes etc I had as a kid from falling out

of trees, off my bike..I was never taken to the dr's for stitches.. she

only took me to the ER once that I remember..I was 8 and get hit in the head

by a tin can ( a poor sport from " kick the can " game) and it sliced my

ear...didn't really hurt, but wouldn't stop bleeding...she wouldn't let them

stitch it up...so I have an awful scar on my ear...several on my leg,

back..foot...

Jackie

Oh,Jackie, that is awful!

When I was three or four, for some reason I had a case of athlete's

foot, which disappeared on its own after a few months...she had this

story about how it was going to give me cancer of the foot.

My mother loved to tell her children that they were sick, but never

had any interest in, say, taking them to the doctor if they were

ill. Especially with mental illness - she told me for years that

depression ran in the family (ie she had it, self-diagnosed) and

that I must be clinically depressed but never made any move to

suggest I see a psychologist or even a school counselor. I'm not

even sure if I was depressed - I sure as heck wasn't happy but it

was definitely a diagnosis she needed to project onto me. As a

mother myself now, I can really see how bizarre such behavior is!

My psychotherapist explained that it is a form of Munchhausen's -

not that she ever poisoned us but that she needed her children to be

unwell to feel like a good mother. Wow.

[Guest guest]

thanks for explaining this..I didn't know if it was just the meanness in my

nada or what..I was always scared I was going to die of this...and you're

right..she never took me to the doctors to get it checked..I checked it out

once I was married..all the cuts/scrapes etc I had as a kid from falling out

of trees, off my bike..I was never taken to the dr's for stitches.. she

only took me to the ER once that I remember..I was 8 and get hit in the head

by a tin can ( a poor sport from " kick the can " game) and it sliced my

ear...didn't really hurt, but wouldn't stop bleeding...she wouldn't let them

stitch it up...so I have an awful scar on my ear...several on my leg,

back..foot...

Jackie

Oh,Jackie, that is awful!

When I was three or four, for some reason I had a case of athlete's

foot, which disappeared on its own after a few months...she had this

story about how it was going to give me cancer of the foot.

My mother loved to tell her children that they were sick, but never

had any interest in, say, taking them to the doctor if they were

ill. Especially with mental illness - she told me for years that

depression ran in the family (ie she had it, self-diagnosed) and

that I must be clinically depressed but never made any move to

suggest I see a psychologist or even a school counselor. I'm not

even sure if I was depressed - I sure as heck wasn't happy but it

was definitely a diagnosis she needed to project onto me. As a

mother myself now, I can really see how bizarre such behavior is!

My psychotherapist explained that it is a form of Munchhausen's -

not that she ever poisoned us but that she needed her children to be

unwell to feel like a good mother. Wow.

[Guest guest]

>My nada is a nurse as well...she always falls back on this as the

>basis for some of her more dubious medical assertions!

>> My mom (and RN) is going around telling people

OK, this is really scary..my nada was an RN as well...whats with these BPDs

being RN's when they certainly don't seem to want to help others..my nada is

the Queen/witch...did she become an RN to boss more people around ? hurt

them more by being rough with post op parients/giving shots ?

Jackie

[Guest guest]

>My nada is a nurse as well...she always falls back on this as the

>basis for some of her more dubious medical assertions!

>> My mom (and RN) is going around telling people

OK, this is really scary..my nada was an RN as well...whats with these BPDs

being RN's when they certainly don't seem to want to help others..my nada is

the Queen/witch...did she become an RN to boss more people around ? hurt

them more by being rough with post op parients/giving shots ?

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Oh i know what you mean. They sit and judge everybody but cant stand when somone

even suggests they have a teeny tiny problem. I found a magazine survey once

that mom had filled out. It asked what you thought your biggest fault was.

Instead of bad temper she picked " procrastinates " . They just dont see

themsevles and never will.

maparise17 wrote:

I just wanted to say---YES!

My mother is the expert on everything. No matter what I say unless it

agrees with her is wrong. She knows medical conditions, social

issues, educational issues...you name it she is the authority. Or she

knows someone who comes into the restuarant she works at who is an

authority, and as shared with her the latest and greatest. No matter

what anyone else has to say...nada knows not only best, but what is

right about everything.

Malinda

> > > > >

> > > > > So if I were to use BP logic all one needs to do to get

rich

> is

> > > have

> > > > there

> > > > > spouse pee after them and only flush once! ROFL! I crack

> > myself

> > > up!

> > > > We

> > > > > should all write a book of BP humor!

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > > I can't believe my dad puts up with this...but they will

have

> a

> > > room

> > > > for of

> > > > > guests, nada will go pee, when she's done, come back and

tell

> > dad

> > > > it's his

> > > > > turn...

> > > > >

> > > > > Jackie

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Oh i know what you mean. They sit and judge everybody but cant stand when somone

even suggests they have a teeny tiny problem. I found a magazine survey once

that mom had filled out. It asked what you thought your biggest fault was.

Instead of bad temper she picked " procrastinates " . They just dont see

themsevles and never will.

maparise17 wrote:

I just wanted to say---YES!

My mother is the expert on everything. No matter what I say unless it

agrees with her is wrong. She knows medical conditions, social

issues, educational issues...you name it she is the authority. Or she

knows someone who comes into the restuarant she works at who is an

authority, and as shared with her the latest and greatest. No matter

what anyone else has to say...nada knows not only best, but what is

right about everything.

Malinda

> > > > >

> > > > > So if I were to use BP logic all one needs to do to get

rich

> is

> > > have

> > > > there

> > > > > spouse pee after them and only flush once! ROFL! I crack

> > myself

> > > up!

> > > > We

> > > > > should all write a book of BP humor!

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > > I can't believe my dad puts up with this...but they will

have

> a

> > > room

> > > > for of

> > > > > guests, nada will go pee, when she's done, come back and

tell

> > dad

> > > > it's his

> > > > > turn...

> > > > >

> > > > > Jackie

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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the SWOE Workbook.

[Guest guest]

I all I can think of when I read this is running, screaming, down the

street, or waking up in a cold sweat, realizing it's a nightmare!

ROFLOL!

Sorry to laugh. It's just so preposterous!

Tara

I just recently

found out about BPD and everything I have had to go

> through growing up makes sense. Do any of you remember having your

> boundries violated by your mom? I know my mom took off all the

locks

> in the whole house so there was no where to hide. She would come in

on

> me taking a shower and if I pushed her out of the bathroom in

attempt

> to regain my privacy,and dignity she would call me violent. Since

> there were no locks my brothers would often walk in on me going to

the

> bathroom. There was nothing I could do. I hated being called

violent

> so I just took the abuse. I was also afraid that my mom was going

to

> call the police on me because she always threatned too. She told me

I

> acted like a juvenile deliquent. Hanging on to my faith always got

me

> through these hard times. I am just wondering if any of this sounds

> familiar?

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah. And the really preposterous part was that we weren't surprised. Just got

ourselves a cup of coffee (from my new kitchen where she had gotten hers) and

sat with her and talked so we wouldn't hurt her feelings by being antisocial or

unfriendly. And the scary part is that knowing that if the same thing happened

tomorrow I might do the same thing - all to avoid bringing hurt to her. These

conditioned responses are terrible. You're in the water boiling before you even

realize there's a pot on the stove. -

flutter_by_73 wrote: I all I can think of when

I read this is running, screaming, down the

street, or waking up in a cold sweat, realizing it's a nightmare!

ROFLOL!

Sorry to laugh. It's just so preposterous!

Tara

I just recently

found out about BPD and everything I have had to go

> through growing up makes sense. Do any of you remember having your

> boundries violated by your mom? I know my mom took off all the

locks

> in the whole house so there was no where to hide. She would come in

on

> me taking a shower and if I pushed her out of the bathroom in

attempt

> to regain my privacy,and dignity she would call me violent. Since

> there were no locks my brothers would often walk in on me going to

the

> bathroom. There was nothing I could do. I hated being called

violent

> so I just took the abuse. I was also afraid that my mom was going

to

> call the police on me because she always threatned too. She told me

I

> acted like a juvenile deliquent. Hanging on to my faith always got

me

> through these hard times. I am just wondering if any of this sounds

> familiar?

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah. And the really preposterous part was that we weren't surprised. Just got

ourselves a cup of coffee (from my new kitchen where she had gotten hers) and

sat with her and talked so we wouldn't hurt her feelings by being antisocial or

unfriendly. And the scary part is that knowing that if the same thing happened

tomorrow I might do the same thing - all to avoid bringing hurt to her. These

conditioned responses are terrible. You're in the water boiling before you even

realize there's a pot on the stove. -

flutter_by_73 wrote: I all I can think of when

I read this is running, screaming, down the

street, or waking up in a cold sweat, realizing it's a nightmare!

ROFLOL!

Sorry to laugh. It's just so preposterous!

Tara

I just recently

found out about BPD and everything I have had to go

> through growing up makes sense. Do any of you remember having your

> boundries violated by your mom? I know my mom took off all the

locks

> in the whole house so there was no where to hide. She would come in

on

> me taking a shower and if I pushed her out of the bathroom in

attempt

> to regain my privacy,and dignity she would call me violent. Since

> there were no locks my brothers would often walk in on me going to

the

> bathroom. There was nothing I could do. I hated being called

violent

> so I just took the abuse. I was also afraid that my mom was going

to

> call the police on me because she always threatned too. She told me

I

> acted like a juvenile deliquent. Hanging on to my faith always got

me

> through these hard times. I am just wondering if any of this sounds

> familiar?

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I also find it hard coming to terms with stuff. So much of it just

appeared normal to me, I knew that other people weren't like this,

but we were told that he did it because he was stressed out because

of his work (and to be fair to him, he did work hard, and managed to

keep his craziness halfway under control, although he did have

his " moments " and fits of rage and screaming. Then when they closed

the business he had a breakdown. He has not worked in 8 years and

still is as crazy as ever, so it is fairly obvious that work has

NOTHING to do with it!

>

> I just recently found out about BPD and everything I have had to go

> through growing up makes sense. Do any of you remember having your

> boundries violated by your mom? I know my mom took off all the

locks

> in the whole house so there was no where to hide. She would come

in on

> me taking a shower and if I pushed her out of the bathroom in

attempt

> to regain my privacy,and dignity she would call me violent. Since

> there were no locks my brothers would often walk in on me going to

the

> bathroom. There was nothing I could do. I hated being called

violent

> so I just took the abuse. I was also afraid that my mom was going

to

> call the police on me because she always threatned too. She told

me I

> acted like a juvenile deliquent. Hanging on to my faith always got

me

> through these hard times. I am just wondering if any of this

sounds

> familiar?

>