Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 : Yes, I have seen this. I think having a mixture of improvements with side effects, does happen alot. I hate this kind of die-off where one gets angry. I am sure you do as well. I actually have stopped taking things because of this side effect, but I probably should have stayed with it. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > Hi group- > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > Thanks as always! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 : Yes, I have seen this. I think having a mixture of improvements with side effects, does happen alot. I hate this kind of die-off where one gets angry. I am sure you do as well. I actually have stopped taking things because of this side effect, but I probably should have stayed with it. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > Hi group- > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > Thanks as always! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 -Thank you Heidi. I am going to try to push through. I just need to focus on the gains. Also, night sweats are completely gone since adding Oregon Grape. Pulsing 7 days on 10 days off. Thanks for the encouragement! -- In BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism , " ambitionn01 " wrote: > > : > > Yes, I have seen this. I think having a mixture of improvements with side effects, does happen alot. I hate this kind of die-off where one gets angry. I am sure you do as well. I actually have stopped taking things because of this side effect, but I probably should have stayed with it. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > > > > > > > Hi group- > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 My guess would be that treating babesia is aggravating bartonella. Bartonella going up makes me mean, while bartonella die off makes me cry. Babesia die off just makes me sleep. Caryn > > Hi group- > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > Thanks as always! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 My guess would be that treating babesia is aggravating bartonella. Bartonella going up makes me mean, while bartonella die off makes me cry. Babesia die off just makes me sleep. Caryn > > Hi group- > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > Thanks as always! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 My guess would be that treating babesia is aggravating bartonella. Bartonella going up makes me mean, while bartonella die off makes me cry. Babesia die off just makes me sleep. Caryn > > Hi group- > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > Thanks as always! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Now that you mention it, I agree with that. But let me add the yeast die-off also makes me mean and also foggy-headed. I have not noticed the crying much, but agree with the rest. Maybe I am just not a crier or haven't killed enough Bartonella yet. But, since Enula also kills other parasites, I wonder if worms are secreting toxins out of anger. I have heard of that. Try upping the die-off and ammonia treatments. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > > > Hi group- > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Now that you mention it, I agree with that. But let me add the yeast die-off also makes me mean and also foggy-headed. I have not noticed the crying much, but agree with the rest. Maybe I am just not a crier or haven't killed enough Bartonella yet. But, since Enula also kills other parasites, I wonder if worms are secreting toxins out of anger. I have heard of that. Try upping the die-off and ammonia treatments. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > > > Hi group- > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Heidi and Caryn, I think both things are going on here. I just re-read your 08 conference notes Heidi and one speaker mentioned neck rash with parasites. Drew broke out in a neck rash yesterday, it is much better today though. He is taking 3 pathogen fighters for parasites/Babesia so we are probably killing a lot of different ones. Once I get everything mopped up and he is back to normal I will up his Banderol. Dr. SH would like us a 8 drops anyway and right now he is only at 5 (twice per day) Lots of OCD today, which leans me toward the Bart spike. Thanks ladies! > > > > > > Hi group- > > > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Heidi and Caryn, I think both things are going on here. I just re-read your 08 conference notes Heidi and one speaker mentioned neck rash with parasites. Drew broke out in a neck rash yesterday, it is much better today though. He is taking 3 pathogen fighters for parasites/Babesia so we are probably killing a lot of different ones. Once I get everything mopped up and he is back to normal I will up his Banderol. Dr. SH would like us a 8 drops anyway and right now he is only at 5 (twice per day) Lots of OCD today, which leans me toward the Bart spike. Thanks ladies! > > > > > > Hi group- > > > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Heidi and Caryn, I think both things are going on here. I just re-read your 08 conference notes Heidi and one speaker mentioned neck rash with parasites. Drew broke out in a neck rash yesterday, it is much better today though. He is taking 3 pathogen fighters for parasites/Babesia so we are probably killing a lot of different ones. Once I get everything mopped up and he is back to normal I will up his Banderol. Dr. SH would like us a 8 drops anyway and right now he is only at 5 (twice per day) Lots of OCD today, which leans me toward the Bart spike. Thanks ladies! > > > > > > Hi group- > > > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi , Are you doing Antibiotics or herbs? Would you mind sharing. Again what kind of Adrenal support you are using!! Thanks, Sasmita > > > > Hi group- > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi , Are you doing Antibiotics or herbs? Would you mind sharing. Again what kind of Adrenal support you are using!! Thanks, Sasmita > > > > Hi group- > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi , Are you doing Antibiotics or herbs? Would you mind sharing. Again what kind of Adrenal support you are using!! Thanks, Sasmita > > > > Hi group- > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well, this thread about "mean" behaviors seems to show up at proper time for me, l am working on detox here, w IV-phos-choline and GHS, burbur and supporting w trace minerals... my always so lovely little man is distroying the few decos l have. In 3 days he has smashed to the floor 4 "things" and he doesn't seem to be unaware of it. He is running around more than usual and behaving like a "Taz-road runner" mixture...Any thoughts?Tks and blessingsIsa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: "" Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:40:22 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >Subject: Re: Anyone get a really mean streak while treating Babesia? Heidi and Caryn, I think both things are going on here. I just re-read your 08 conference notes Heidi and one speaker mentioned neck rash with parasites. Drew broke out in a neck rash yesterday, it is much better today though. He is taking 3 pathogen fighters for parasites/Babesia so we are probably killing a lot of different ones. Once I get everything mopped up and he is back to normal I will up his Banderol. Dr. SH would like us a 8 drops anyway and right now he is only at 5 (twice per day) Lots of OCD today, which leans me toward the Bart spike. Thanks ladies! > > > > > > Hi group- > > > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well, this thread about "mean" behaviors seems to show up at proper time for me, l am working on detox here, w IV-phos-choline and GHS, burbur and supporting w trace minerals... my always so lovely little man is distroying the few decos l have. In 3 days he has smashed to the floor 4 "things" and he doesn't seem to be unaware of it. He is running around more than usual and behaving like a "Taz-road runner" mixture...Any thoughts?Tks and blessingsIsa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: "" Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:40:22 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >Subject: Re: Anyone get a really mean streak while treating Babesia? Heidi and Caryn, I think both things are going on here. I just re-read your 08 conference notes Heidi and one speaker mentioned neck rash with parasites. Drew broke out in a neck rash yesterday, it is much better today though. He is taking 3 pathogen fighters for parasites/Babesia so we are probably killing a lot of different ones. Once I get everything mopped up and he is back to normal I will up his Banderol. Dr. SH would like us a 8 drops anyway and right now he is only at 5 (twice per day) Lots of OCD today, which leans me toward the Bart spike. Thanks ladies! > > > > > > Hi group- > > > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well, this thread about "mean" behaviors seems to show up at proper time for me, l am working on detox here, w IV-phos-choline and GHS, burbur and supporting w trace minerals... my always so lovely little man is distroying the few decos l have. In 3 days he has smashed to the floor 4 "things" and he doesn't seem to be unaware of it. He is running around more than usual and behaving like a "Taz-road runner" mixture...Any thoughts?Tks and blessingsIsa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de TelcelFrom: "" Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:40:22 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >Subject: Re: Anyone get a really mean streak while treating Babesia? Heidi and Caryn, I think both things are going on here. I just re-read your 08 conference notes Heidi and one speaker mentioned neck rash with parasites. Drew broke out in a neck rash yesterday, it is much better today though. He is taking 3 pathogen fighters for parasites/Babesia so we are probably killing a lot of different ones. Once I get everything mopped up and he is back to normal I will up his Banderol. Dr. SH would like us a 8 drops anyway and right now he is only at 5 (twice per day) Lots of OCD today, which leans me toward the Bart spike. Thanks ladies! > > > > > > Hi group- > > > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi , Yes, I was actually trying to explain these symptoms to Dr. SH. My son became VERY aggressive and mean on Alinia. The weirdest thing is that this symptom became worse once we stopped the Alinia and lasted for a month. Dr. SH said that Alinia has that side effect. Dr. K. said that my son was just not detoxing fast enough and that we were probably killing other parasites as well. We didn't see any aggressiveness or meanness with Malarone (similar to Mepron) just lethargy. I agree that worms could be the other patasite being killed. And that it should be targeted more. We have just done a voice analysis with Dr. K and Mebendazole and Biltricide (sp ?) tested great for him. HTH Nadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi , Yes, I was actually trying to explain these symptoms to Dr. SH. My son became VERY aggressive and mean on Alinia. The weirdest thing is that this symptom became worse once we stopped the Alinia and lasted for a month. Dr. SH said that Alinia has that side effect. Dr. K. said that my son was just not detoxing fast enough and that we were probably killing other parasites as well. We didn't see any aggressiveness or meanness with Malarone (similar to Mepron) just lethargy. I agree that worms could be the other patasite being killed. And that it should be targeted more. We have just done a voice analysis with Dr. K and Mebendazole and Biltricide (sp ?) tested great for him. HTH Nadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi , Yes, I was actually trying to explain these symptoms to Dr. SH. My son became VERY aggressive and mean on Alinia. The weirdest thing is that this symptom became worse once we stopped the Alinia and lasted for a month. Dr. SH said that Alinia has that side effect. Dr. K. said that my son was just not detoxing fast enough and that we were probably killing other parasites as well. We didn't see any aggressiveness or meanness with Malarone (similar to Mepron) just lethargy. I agree that worms could be the other patasite being killed. And that it should be targeted more. We have just done a voice analysis with Dr. K and Mebendazole and Biltricide (sp ?) tested great for him. HTH Nadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I have one that kind of stays mean; well, at least has angry moments that last anywhere from minutes to a day. In addition to all those things I always mention for die-off, she is on GABA Calm by Source Naturals. And wow, it helps a lot. I think her anger is going to take a long time to rid, so she has to be on something for the long haul. I think anger is my most dreaded symptom. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > > > > > > > Hi group- > > > > > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I have one that kind of stays mean; well, at least has angry moments that last anywhere from minutes to a day. In addition to all those things I always mention for die-off, she is on GABA Calm by Source Naturals. And wow, it helps a lot. I think her anger is going to take a long time to rid, so she has to be on something for the long haul. I think anger is my most dreaded symptom. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > > > > > > > Hi group- > > > > > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I have one that kind of stays mean; well, at least has angry moments that last anywhere from minutes to a day. In addition to all those things I always mention for die-off, she is on GABA Calm by Source Naturals. And wow, it helps a lot. I think her anger is going to take a long time to rid, so she has to be on something for the long haul. I think anger is my most dreaded symptom. Love and prayers, Heidi N > > > > > > > > Hi group- > > > > > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi Sasmita, We started out with antibiotics for 3 months and then switched to herbs. My son did very well on antibiotics, but got terrible gut issues and yeast no matter how much probitics he took. He was also on Nizoral for yeast and his liver enzymes went through the roof. We switched to herbs in February. My son has Lyme plus all 3 co-infections and currently takes: Samento Banderol Noni Enula Artemesia and Clove Oregon Grape, Pau D'Arco and Biocidin in 7 day rotation For adrenal support we use Loving Energy by Bioray. We have our first Zyto scan on Thursday morning with MP so I will be interested to see what it shows and what the balance panel looks like. A note to all- Full Moon Tomorrow!! > > > > > > Hi group- > > > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi Sasmita, We started out with antibiotics for 3 months and then switched to herbs. My son did very well on antibiotics, but got terrible gut issues and yeast no matter how much probitics he took. He was also on Nizoral for yeast and his liver enzymes went through the roof. We switched to herbs in February. My son has Lyme plus all 3 co-infections and currently takes: Samento Banderol Noni Enula Artemesia and Clove Oregon Grape, Pau D'Arco and Biocidin in 7 day rotation For adrenal support we use Loving Energy by Bioray. We have our first Zyto scan on Thursday morning with MP so I will be interested to see what it shows and what the balance panel looks like. A note to all- Full Moon Tomorrow!! > > > > > > Hi group- > > > > > > Dr. SH has us heavy hitting Babesia right now. We added Enula to the mix 4 days ago and my normally sweet loving Drew is now mean as a snake! > > > > > > He is doing things puposely to get under the skin of his NT 9 year old sister. Saying things that he knows are hurtful, turning off her computer while she is playing it etc. With me, he has gotten major attitude and backtalk and has some sort of sassy comment about everything. He has spent the better part of the last 2 days in a time out chair. > > > > > > Anyone else experience this? Everything else is great, no stimming, no weird behavior, everything else quite honestly is completely normal. > > > > > > We are binding with Pectasol twice a day, have Pinella and Burbur on board 3 times a day, liver support 3 times a day, adrenal support twice a day. Epsom salt baths at night. > > > > > > We have been treating all the buggos now for 9 months, I have seen lots of other herx stuff, but never just a mean streak. Is this normal? Babesia=mean???? > > > > > > Thanks as always! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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