Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 Below is a description between the two and why salicylates lists may vary. this is consistent with everything else I have read about the two. If you want more information on diet/chemicals/behavior, you can go to the url, scroll to the bottom and keep clicking on MORE. . ----------------------- Chronic Conditions And Diet - Salicylates http://eklhad.hispeed.com/foods9.html In two earlier articles I described how my wife and my dog Remmington both had to eat on schedule, or suffer serious digestive disorders. In 's case each meal had to contain 5 grams of fiber. The same may be true of Remmington; I never checked the fiber content of her dog food. What is going on here? What went wrong, and why did a fiber regimen help? To illustrate, let's suppose your skin is sensitive to a particular brand of soap. If you wash quickly and rinse off right away, you might not notice - but if you leave soap on your arm for several hours, you could develop a nasty rash. Repeat this unorthodox practice day after day and the rash will certainly get worse. Now carry this analogy inside, where the intestines play the role of skin, and soap is replaced with certain chemicals in the diet. These chemicals may be artificial additives, or they may be natural chemicals that occur in certain fruits and vegetables. Either way, your intestine reacts to them, and the reaction is proportional to the length of time the food sits in contact with the digestive tract. Fiber moves the food along and reduces the irritation. This simple treatment is sufficient for some, but not others. Thinking about skin once again, there are some individuals who can't use certain hygiene products at all. A harsh soap might irritate the skin even if it is rinsed off right away. Similarly, some people will react to food chemicals no matter how quickly they are digested. For them, fiber is not the magic bullet. They are simply too sensitive to the allergen. I'm glad was not one of these hapless individuals. A simple fiber regimen kept things moving and effectively treated her symptoms. In fact we were putting her on an elimination diet without realizing it. I described the effects of elimination in an earlier article. If you react to corn, for instance, and you can avoid corn for a year, you might be able to eat it again in moderation. In 's case we were preventing chemical x, whatever x was, from irritating her colon. She continued to eat x, but as far as her colon was concerned, we had eliminated x from the diet. Now she can eat x in moderation, with or without fiber. That's why she is essentially cured, provided we take some minor precautions as described in the last article. After years of clinical observations, mainstream medicine finally recognizes the fiber connection. Remember, it was a physician who first suggested the high fiber diet and put us on the right track. However these same physicians have no idea why fiber works, and why it doesn't work in some cases. It would be better to identify the underlying food sensitivity and run a true elimination diet. This is much harder than simply eating more fiber, but it is more likely to help the patient. So what was reacting to? What was chemical x? We don't know for sure, because she doesn't react to it any more. It wasn't a 20th century additive, or a common allergen such as wheat or dairy. Furthermore, it was not a yeast byproduct, arising naturally in foods or grown internally as a result of too many carbohydrates. A series of experiments ruled all these things out. In retrospect, I believe reacted to salicylates, a class of compounds that I knew nothing about at the time. Salicylic acid is an organic acid with a ring structure, and a salicylate is a salt or covalent compound formed by displacing hydrogen from salicylic acid. As this description suggests, there are many different salicylates. By analogy, there are many different chlorides: sodium chloride (table salt), calcium chloride, potassium chloride, etc. Some people react to certain salicylates - some people react to all of them. More on this later. In the 1970's, Dr. Ben Feingold, author of Why Your Child Is Hyperactive, found that some of his patients reacted to artificial additives, which eventually led to the preservative-free Feingold diet. However, other children reacted violently to aspirin. The active ingredient in aspirin is a concentrated salicylate, and after further investigation, Dr. Feingold found that some children react behaviorally to salicylates, in drugs or in natural foods. Subsequent research has demonstrated a link between salicylates and many other symptoms, including various digestive disorders. Apparently salicylates can irritate the colon the way soap might irritate skin. So -- which foods contain salicylates? The answer depends on who you ask. The Feingold Association of the United States, named in honor of Dr. Feingold, has compiled a list of high salicylate foods based on 30 years of accumulated experience. In other words, parents collectively said, " You know, my son really goes crazy when he eats grapes. " , and grapes were added to the list. This method is not very analytical or scientific, but biology is complex and subtle, so this form of invivo testing may actually be the most accurate. At the same time, the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital in Sydney Australia has taken a more objective approach. They have run most foods through chemical analysis and measured, quantitatively, the salicylate content of each. The Failsafe diet eliminates all foods that are moderate or high in salicylates. You will notice that the Failsafe program eliminates many more foods than the Feingold program. For example, corn is very high in salicylates, at least in the lab, yet it doesn't seem to bother most Feingold members. Of course, there are people on the Failsafe diet who claim that all salicylate foods, including corn, are a problem. How can we reconcile these different points of view? As mentioned earlier, there are different kinds of salicylates. The Failsafe diet is based upon a very broad chemical test that measures all salicylates, while the Feingold diet identifies foods that invoke a reaction in a majority of food-sensitive children. I suspect there are two classes of salicylates at work, which I will call fruit salicylates and vegetable salicylates, reflecting the foods that (generally) contain them. These might be ionic verses covalent compounds; I don't know. In any case, there are some people who only react to fruit salicylates, and the Feingold diet is sufficient for them. Others react to all salicylates, and must subscribe to the Failsafe diet. I believe reacted to salicylates, or at least fruit salicylates, because of her response to apples. After two years on her fiber regimen, she was virtually symptom free - but if she had an apple late at night, as a bed-time snack, she was bound to have a problem the next morning. She could eat a candy bar, or other forms of junk food, but not an apple. This suggests fruit salicylates (apples are high in these), rather than preservatives, wheat, dairy, or other natural food compounds. We are lucky - everyone in our family can now eat salicylates in high amounts. However, my children are very sensitive to amines, another class of naturally occurring food compounds that will be discussed in a future article. Note that both salicylates and amines appear almost at random. You can't go by the food group. Apples have salicylates and pears don't - broccoli has salicylates and cabbage doesn't - tomatoes have salicylates and potatoes don't - etc. You'll never figure it out on your own. If you want to test for salicylates, you'll need a comprehensive reference guide, along with the support of others who have gone before. See the references below. References The Feingold Association of the United States provides lists, by brand names, of foods that are free of additives and fruit salicylates. They don't address vegetable salicylates at all, so this diet is not right for everyone. Still, it is a good place to start. You can get more information by visiting www.feingold.org. The Failsafe diet, which eliminates all salicylates, is described in the book Fed Up, by Sue Dengate. You can order this book, or learn more about the diet, by visiting her web site at www.ozemail.com.au/~sdengate/. There are many salicylate lists available on-line, from many sources, although the Failsafe list is not publicly available - you have to buy the book. Here are three references. No doubt you could find more using a search engine. www.zipworld.com.au/~ataraxy/ www.purr.demon.co.uk/Food/Salicylate.html www.netromall.com/guai-support/sal-full.htm These sites closely approximate the Failsafe list, but no two lists are identical. This is understandable, since the salicylate content of an apple depends on the variety (green has more than red), the components (the peel has more than the flesh), the soil it was grown in, the ripeness of the fruit, the duration and conditions of transport, cooking methods (e.g. apple pie), and so on. Managing salicylates is much more difficult than avoiding preservatives and additives. Unfortunately you may have to do both simultaneously; these two sensitivities are highly correlated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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