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Oh and I meant to add, consider introduciing your family and your friends www.soundsensitivity.info so that they can read it and hopefully understand this is real and you are in need of some compassion and assistance and not anger and annoyance.HeidiHi everyone, I am new to all this. I am only 15 and suffer from this Selective sensitivity. And I read all of your guy's messages and you all are older and have huge problems that this causes. It really does scare me that this is going to cause so many more problems than it already has. And I have never in my life met someone else like this. i always thought it was just me being over sensitive. But it causes my family to get mad at me, and my friends to get annoyed when I ask them to stop. And even pets drive me nuts when they clean them selves. If anyone has any ideas to help me pleasee do tell. I want to grow up living life not getting extremely mean and grumpy because a single sound offset me.To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 11:05:34 AMSubject: Re: Re: CBT What I thought I read is that a doctor who was perviously a member of the group had withdrawn, however before leaving he posted that link along with a cryptic or rude message about "thinking negatively". I hate the whole thinking negatively thing. My husband thinks that this is some kind of "phobia" and that increased exposure will somehow make it more manageable, like "facing your fears". This misunderstanding has caused me so many marital problems... people saying that you "should be able to get over it".... all this has put me in a position where I can't handle the disorder anymore. I'm going to lose another marriage over it. I need a BREAK before I have a breakdown.Subject: Re: CBTTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 10:30 AM I'm very new to the group also and noticed that there is a difficulty level in keeping track of the messages as some of the messages for one topic are typed in under a different topic. For some reason, the thread from of July 2010, became the thread that some of the respones were being typed in as opposed to my thread of introducing myself and asking a CBT question recently. It became even further complicated with the topic going off course but don't get discouraged. I was just trying to heal your reaction on the ethics of the doctor because I thought you may have misread the intent there due to the complications of the topics getting mixed together.Have I mentioned I get too detailed sometimes :-)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I just don't really feel it's ethical to blame a six year old child for thinking "too negatively."> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>

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Well said 100% support that Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on 3Sender: Soundsensitivity Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:10:15 -0800To: <Soundsensitivity >ReplyTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: CBT Hi and welcome.Not everyone has huge problems. Start now working on this to avoid it getting worse down the road. When you hear the sound that annoys you try to put a positive spin on it and don't allow negative thoughts to back it up, and don't dwell on it. For example, if it's gum cracking and you have the initial reaction of anger/rage/whatever, rather than mentally going off on that person, that is, telling yourself how gross and disgusting that person is, think positive thoughts about that person and positive thoughts about the sound and then turn your attention elsewhere. It's hard at first, but over time it gets easier. The more you do this now, while you're young, I believe the greater chance you have of not have huge problems later in life. And if you find another sound starts to bother you, nip it in the bud and turn it into something with a positive spin. For right now, it's about all we've got to try to tame this beast and for those of us trying it, it's worked pretty well.Good luck!HeidiHi everyone, I am new to all this. I am only 15 and suffer from this Selective sensitivity. And I read all of your guy's messages and you all are older and have huge problems that this causes. It really does scare me that this is going to cause so many more problems than it already has. And I have never in my life met someone else like this. i always thought it was just me being over sensitive. But it causes my family to get mad at me, and my friends to get annoyed when I ask them to stop. And even pets drive me nuts when they clean them selves. If anyone has any ideas to help me pleasee do tell. I want to grow up living life not getting extremely mean and grumpy because a single sound offset me.To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 11:05:34 AMSubject: Re: Re: CBT What I thought I read is that a doctor who was perviously a member of the group had withdrawn, however before leaving he posted that link along with a cryptic or rude message about "thinking negatively". I hate the whole thinking negatively thing. My husband thinks that this is some kind of "phobia" and that increased exposure will somehow make it more manageable, like "facing your fears". This misunderstanding has caused me so many marital problems... people saying that you "should be able to get over it".... all this has put me in a position where I can't handle the disorder anymore. I'm going to lose another marriage over it. I need a BREAK before I have a breakdown.Subject: Re: CBTTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 10:30 AM I'm very new to the group also and noticed that there is a difficulty level in keeping track of the messages as some of the messages for one topic are typed in under a different topic. For some reason, the thread from of July 2010, became the thread that some of the respones were being typed in as opposed to my thread of introducing myself and asking a CBT question recently. It became even further complicated with the topic going off course but don't get discouraged. I was just trying to heal your reaction on the ethics of the doctor because I thought you may have misread the intent there due to the complications of the topics getting mixed together.Have I mentioned I get too detailed sometimes :-)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I just don't really feel it's ethical to blame a six year old child for thinking "too negatively."> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>

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Hi Addy,

Welcome! I have a few tidbits of advice if you want them.

First, I suggest reading through the archives of the list because we have talked in the past a lot about coping and that may prove helpful to you.

Second, while CBT is a novel idea, I still remain a bit on the fence. Besides happy thoughts (which are always a good thing, that's true) I suggest you develop coping mechanisms. I have several. For instance, I always keep hard candy with me. It's great for when you're in a social situation where there is a bad sound such as school/movies/library. Unwrap the candy and suck it, chew it, etc. This provides masking sounds that blocks what you're hearing. It also provides a tension reliever to take out your frustration. They are like magic pills :) and unwrapping the candy provides precious seconds as well of masking and relieving tension.

Another idea is earplugs, of course. I recommend Sony's soundproof earbuds. Great for subway rides or going to sleep at night while someone else is still up.

Chewing gum is a great tension reliever and masker.

Also, I have developed a habit that at first was weird for me but now, I do it so automatically that not only do I not notice it but others have never really paid it any mind either. That's keeping a finger to my ear. Wherever I am, in a resteraunt, at my desk, at home, etc. I am always leaning sideways or forward or propping up my arm so that I can subtly keep one finger pressed to the ear that is closest to the offending noises.

I find this trick extremely helpful. It's all about masking and relieving tension. And now, even if it might not significantly help sometimes, it's become a comfort trick for self-soothing, like my security blanket so to speak :) I will even do it while I talk to people. I'll cross my arms and prop my arm up and sneak that little finger under my hair and press it to my ear. People might, for a moment, wonder what's up with that. But it has never impacted me socially. It's not something people will take issue with and you don't have to explain to anyone except maybe to say your ear itches or something.

Find these little ways to cope and you will do great. If you're at dinner and someone is annoying you, just take your fork and clink it against your plate a few times. It relieves the tension. Or take your straw and start swirling your drink. It masks and relieves. It's all about the little things, dear. At least imho anyway.

Best of luck and don't ever feel weird for being how you are. We're all there with you. Alot of us have been alienated from friends and family, that's true, and it hurts. People are resistant to change and what we're asking of them is hard. It's hard to chew a chip without making noise or to stop sniffing when you have a cold. But we just go on the best we can and we live normal lives with the people we love. We're not grumpy hermits and you won't be either. I promise :)

Tammy

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 10:55:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: CBT

Hi everyone, I am new to all this. I am only 15 and suffer from this Selective sensitivity. And I read all of your guy's messages and you all are older and have huge problems that this causes. It really does scare me that this is going to cause so many more problems than it already has. And I have never in my life met someone else like this. i always thought it was just me being over sensitive. But it causes my family to get mad at me, and my friends to get annoyed when I ask them to stop. And even pets drive me nuts when they clean them selves. If anyone has any ideas to help me pleasee do tell. I want to grow up living life not getting extremely mean and grumpy because a single sound offset me.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 11:05:34 AMSubject: Re: Re: CBT

What I thought I read is that a doctor who was perviously a member of the group had withdrawn, however before leaving he posted that link along with a cryptic or rude message about "thinking negatively". I hate the whole thinking negatively thing. My husband thinks that this is some kind of "phobia" and that increased exposure will somehow make it more manageable, like "facing your fears". This misunderstanding has caused me so many marital problems... people saying that you "should be able to get over it".... all this has put me in a position where I can't handle the disorder anymore. I'm going to lose another marriage over it. I need a BREAK before I have a breakdown.

Subject: Re: CBTTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 10:30 AM

I'm very new to the group also and noticed that there is a difficulty level in keeping track of the messages as some of the messages for one topic are typed in under a different topic. For some reason, the thread from of July 2010, became the thread that some of the respones were being typed in as opposed to my thread of introducing myself and asking a CBT question recently. It became even further complicated with the topic going off course but don't get discouraged. I was just trying to heal your reaction on the ethics of the doctor because I thought you may have misread the intent there due to the complications of the topics getting mixed together.Have I mentioned I get too detailed sometimes :-)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I just don't really feel it's ethical to blame a six year old child for thinking "too negatively."> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>

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Hi Addy,

Welcome! I have a few tidbits of advice if you want them.

First, I suggest reading through the archives of the list because we have talked in the past a lot about coping and that may prove helpful to you.

Second, while CBT is a novel idea, I still remain a bit on the fence. Besides happy thoughts (which are always a good thing, that's true) I suggest you develop coping mechanisms. I have several. For instance, I always keep hard candy with me. It's great for when you're in a social situation where there is a bad sound such as school/movies/library. Unwrap the candy and suck it, chew it, etc. This provides masking sounds that blocks what you're hearing. It also provides a tension reliever to take out your frustration. They are like magic pills :) and unwrapping the candy provides precious seconds as well of masking and relieving tension.

Another idea is earplugs, of course. I recommend Sony's soundproof earbuds. Great for subway rides or going to sleep at night while someone else is still up.

Chewing gum is a great tension reliever and masker.

Also, I have developed a habit that at first was weird for me but now, I do it so automatically that not only do I not notice it but others have never really paid it any mind either. That's keeping a finger to my ear. Wherever I am, in a resteraunt, at my desk, at home, etc. I am always leaning sideways or forward or propping up my arm so that I can subtly keep one finger pressed to the ear that is closest to the offending noises.

I find this trick extremely helpful. It's all about masking and relieving tension. And now, even if it might not significantly help sometimes, it's become a comfort trick for self-soothing, like my security blanket so to speak :) I will even do it while I talk to people. I'll cross my arms and prop my arm up and sneak that little finger under my hair and press it to my ear. People might, for a moment, wonder what's up with that. But it has never impacted me socially. It's not something people will take issue with and you don't have to explain to anyone except maybe to say your ear itches or something.

Find these little ways to cope and you will do great. If you're at dinner and someone is annoying you, just take your fork and clink it against your plate a few times. It relieves the tension. Or take your straw and start swirling your drink. It masks and relieves. It's all about the little things, dear. At least imho anyway.

Best of luck and don't ever feel weird for being how you are. We're all there with you. Alot of us have been alienated from friends and family, that's true, and it hurts. People are resistant to change and what we're asking of them is hard. It's hard to chew a chip without making noise or to stop sniffing when you have a cold. But we just go on the best we can and we live normal lives with the people we love. We're not grumpy hermits and you won't be either. I promise :)

Tammy

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 10:55:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: CBT

Hi everyone, I am new to all this. I am only 15 and suffer from this Selective sensitivity. And I read all of your guy's messages and you all are older and have huge problems that this causes. It really does scare me that this is going to cause so many more problems than it already has. And I have never in my life met someone else like this. i always thought it was just me being over sensitive. But it causes my family to get mad at me, and my friends to get annoyed when I ask them to stop. And even pets drive me nuts when they clean them selves. If anyone has any ideas to help me pleasee do tell. I want to grow up living life not getting extremely mean and grumpy because a single sound offset me.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 11:05:34 AMSubject: Re: Re: CBT

What I thought I read is that a doctor who was perviously a member of the group had withdrawn, however before leaving he posted that link along with a cryptic or rude message about "thinking negatively". I hate the whole thinking negatively thing. My husband thinks that this is some kind of "phobia" and that increased exposure will somehow make it more manageable, like "facing your fears". This misunderstanding has caused me so many marital problems... people saying that you "should be able to get over it".... all this has put me in a position where I can't handle the disorder anymore. I'm going to lose another marriage over it. I need a BREAK before I have a breakdown.

Subject: Re: CBTTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 10:30 AM

I'm very new to the group also and noticed that there is a difficulty level in keeping track of the messages as some of the messages for one topic are typed in under a different topic. For some reason, the thread from of July 2010, became the thread that some of the respones were being typed in as opposed to my thread of introducing myself and asking a CBT question recently. It became even further complicated with the topic going off course but don't get discouraged. I was just trying to heal your reaction on the ethics of the doctor because I thought you may have misread the intent there due to the complications of the topics getting mixed together.Have I mentioned I get too detailed sometimes :-)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I just don't really feel it's ethical to blame a six year old child for thinking "too negatively."> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>

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Hi Addy,

Welcome! I have a few tidbits of advice if you want them.

First, I suggest reading through the archives of the list because we have talked in the past a lot about coping and that may prove helpful to you.

Second, while CBT is a novel idea, I still remain a bit on the fence. Besides happy thoughts (which are always a good thing, that's true) I suggest you develop coping mechanisms. I have several. For instance, I always keep hard candy with me. It's great for when you're in a social situation where there is a bad sound such as school/movies/library. Unwrap the candy and suck it, chew it, etc. This provides masking sounds that blocks what you're hearing. It also provides a tension reliever to take out your frustration. They are like magic pills :) and unwrapping the candy provides precious seconds as well of masking and relieving tension.

Another idea is earplugs, of course. I recommend Sony's soundproof earbuds. Great for subway rides or going to sleep at night while someone else is still up.

Chewing gum is a great tension reliever and masker.

Also, I have developed a habit that at first was weird for me but now, I do it so automatically that not only do I not notice it but others have never really paid it any mind either. That's keeping a finger to my ear. Wherever I am, in a resteraunt, at my desk, at home, etc. I am always leaning sideways or forward or propping up my arm so that I can subtly keep one finger pressed to the ear that is closest to the offending noises.

I find this trick extremely helpful. It's all about masking and relieving tension. And now, even if it might not significantly help sometimes, it's become a comfort trick for self-soothing, like my security blanket so to speak :) I will even do it while I talk to people. I'll cross my arms and prop my arm up and sneak that little finger under my hair and press it to my ear. People might, for a moment, wonder what's up with that. But it has never impacted me socially. It's not something people will take issue with and you don't have to explain to anyone except maybe to say your ear itches or something.

Find these little ways to cope and you will do great. If you're at dinner and someone is annoying you, just take your fork and clink it against your plate a few times. It relieves the tension. Or take your straw and start swirling your drink. It masks and relieves. It's all about the little things, dear. At least imho anyway.

Best of luck and don't ever feel weird for being how you are. We're all there with you. Alot of us have been alienated from friends and family, that's true, and it hurts. People are resistant to change and what we're asking of them is hard. It's hard to chew a chip without making noise or to stop sniffing when you have a cold. But we just go on the best we can and we live normal lives with the people we love. We're not grumpy hermits and you won't be either. I promise :)

Tammy

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 10:55:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: CBT

Hi everyone, I am new to all this. I am only 15 and suffer from this Selective sensitivity. And I read all of your guy's messages and you all are older and have huge problems that this causes. It really does scare me that this is going to cause so many more problems than it already has. And I have never in my life met someone else like this. i always thought it was just me being over sensitive. But it causes my family to get mad at me, and my friends to get annoyed when I ask them to stop. And even pets drive me nuts when they clean them selves. If anyone has any ideas to help me pleasee do tell. I want to grow up living life not getting extremely mean and grumpy because a single sound offset me.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 11:05:34 AMSubject: Re: Re: CBT

What I thought I read is that a doctor who was perviously a member of the group had withdrawn, however before leaving he posted that link along with a cryptic or rude message about "thinking negatively". I hate the whole thinking negatively thing. My husband thinks that this is some kind of "phobia" and that increased exposure will somehow make it more manageable, like "facing your fears". This misunderstanding has caused me so many marital problems... people saying that you "should be able to get over it".... all this has put me in a position where I can't handle the disorder anymore. I'm going to lose another marriage over it. I need a BREAK before I have a breakdown.

Subject: Re: CBTTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 10:30 AM

I'm very new to the group also and noticed that there is a difficulty level in keeping track of the messages as some of the messages for one topic are typed in under a different topic. For some reason, the thread from of July 2010, became the thread that some of the respones were being typed in as opposed to my thread of introducing myself and asking a CBT question recently. It became even further complicated with the topic going off course but don't get discouraged. I was just trying to heal your reaction on the ethics of the doctor because I thought you may have misread the intent there due to the complications of the topics getting mixed together.Have I mentioned I get too detailed sometimes :-)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I just don't really feel it's ethical to blame a six year old child for thinking "too negatively."> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>

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Oh yeah, and one more thing: Try setting time limits. That helps me alot. For example, if I'm in the doctor's office and someone is making a noise, I know that I can get through it beacuse they will only be there until there or mine name is called. Or if I'm in class, I know it will be over as soon as the period is over or what have you. If you set time limits so that you can think about looking forward to when the sound is definitely going to end, it helps. When people are eating, i know it will only last until the food is gone. That sounds really simplistic and dumb, I know, but it really helps to think it through "okay, now her mashed potatoes...almost done...one more bite...two more chips...then we're done! whoo hoo!" haha. i know, i know but it WORKS, girl! at least for me.

Tammy

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 10:55:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: CBT

Hi everyone, I am new to all this. I am only 15 and suffer from this Selective sensitivity. And I read all of your guy's messages and you all are older and have huge problems that this causes. It really does scare me that this is going to cause so many more problems than it already has. And I have never in my life met someone else like this. i always thought it was just me being over sensitive. But it causes my family to get mad at me, and my friends to get annoyed when I ask them to stop. And even pets drive me nuts when they clean them selves. If anyone has any ideas to help me pleasee do tell. I want to grow up living life not getting extremely mean and grumpy because a single sound offset me.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 11:05:34 AMSubject: Re: Re: CBT

What I thought I read is that a doctor who was perviously a member of the group had withdrawn, however before leaving he posted that link along with a cryptic or rude message about "thinking negatively". I hate the whole thinking negatively thing. My husband thinks that this is some kind of "phobia" and that increased exposure will somehow make it more manageable, like "facing your fears". This misunderstanding has caused me so many marital problems... people saying that you "should be able to get over it".... all this has put me in a position where I can't handle the disorder anymore. I'm going to lose another marriage over it. I need a BREAK before I have a breakdown.

Subject: Re: CBTTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 10:30 AM

I'm very new to the group also and noticed that there is a difficulty level in keeping track of the messages as some of the messages for one topic are typed in under a different topic. For some reason, the thread from of July 2010, became the thread that some of the respones were being typed in as opposed to my thread of introducing myself and asking a CBT question recently. It became even further complicated with the topic going off course but don't get discouraged. I was just trying to heal your reaction on the ethics of the doctor because I thought you may have misread the intent there due to the complications of the topics getting mixed together.Have I mentioned I get too detailed sometimes :-)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I just don't really feel it's ethical to blame a six year old child for thinking "too negatively."> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>

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Oh yeah, and one more thing: Try setting time limits. That helps me alot. For example, if I'm in the doctor's office and someone is making a noise, I know that I can get through it beacuse they will only be there until there or mine name is called. Or if I'm in class, I know it will be over as soon as the period is over or what have you. If you set time limits so that you can think about looking forward to when the sound is definitely going to end, it helps. When people are eating, i know it will only last until the food is gone. That sounds really simplistic and dumb, I know, but it really helps to think it through "okay, now her mashed potatoes...almost done...one more bite...two more chips...then we're done! whoo hoo!" haha. i know, i know but it WORKS, girl! at least for me.

Tammy

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 10:55:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: CBT

Hi everyone, I am new to all this. I am only 15 and suffer from this Selective sensitivity. And I read all of your guy's messages and you all are older and have huge problems that this causes. It really does scare me that this is going to cause so many more problems than it already has. And I have never in my life met someone else like this. i always thought it was just me being over sensitive. But it causes my family to get mad at me, and my friends to get annoyed when I ask them to stop. And even pets drive me nuts when they clean them selves. If anyone has any ideas to help me pleasee do tell. I want to grow up living life not getting extremely mean and grumpy because a single sound offset me.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 11:05:34 AMSubject: Re: Re: CBT

What I thought I read is that a doctor who was perviously a member of the group had withdrawn, however before leaving he posted that link along with a cryptic or rude message about "thinking negatively". I hate the whole thinking negatively thing. My husband thinks that this is some kind of "phobia" and that increased exposure will somehow make it more manageable, like "facing your fears". This misunderstanding has caused me so many marital problems... people saying that you "should be able to get over it".... all this has put me in a position where I can't handle the disorder anymore. I'm going to lose another marriage over it. I need a BREAK before I have a breakdown.

Subject: Re: CBTTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 10:30 AM

I'm very new to the group also and noticed that there is a difficulty level in keeping track of the messages as some of the messages for one topic are typed in under a different topic. For some reason, the thread from of July 2010, became the thread that some of the respones were being typed in as opposed to my thread of introducing myself and asking a CBT question recently. It became even further complicated with the topic going off course but don't get discouraged. I was just trying to heal your reaction on the ethics of the doctor because I thought you may have misread the intent there due to the complications of the topics getting mixed together.Have I mentioned I get too detailed sometimes :-)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I just don't really feel it's ethical to blame a six year old child for thinking "too negatively."> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>

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Tammy,

I think it it funny that I regularly do every one of the coping mechanisms that you mentioned.They work to at least make things tolerable. And I like your positive attitude. When I was younger , I was angry, isolated and depressed and also drank to deal with it.

I stopped drinking, have come out of my shell and been much more social. I am so much happier and enjoy being around people, even it they drive me crazy at times. I missed out on so much of the joys in life by being isolated from people. 4S contributed to my social isolation but I have learned to cope with it because my desire to interconnect with others is a such a strong motivator for me. I need and love my family and friends and don't want to miss out so I have just learned to deal with it.

I think in time, and with more public awareness, we can live more normal lives. I, for one, will not give up living, learning and enjoying life, regardless of this debilitating condition.

I feel that confronting this problem is the key to overcoming it.

Mike L.

Subject: Re: CBTTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 10:30 AM

I'm very new to the group also and noticed that there is a difficulty level in keeping track of the messages as some of the messages for one topic are typed in under a different topic. For some reason, the thread from of July 2010, became the thread that some of the respones were being typed in as opposed to my thread of introducing myself and asking a CBT question recently. It became even further complicated with the topic going off course but don't get discouraged. I was just trying to heal your reaction on the ethics of the doctor because I thought you may have misread the intent there due to the complications of the topics getting mixed together.Have I mentioned I get too detailed sometimes :-)> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I just don't really feel it's ethical to blame a six year old child for thinking "too negatively."> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>

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