Re: Re: my misunderstanding of email

[Guest guest]

I apologize for misunderstanding the reference to " faux pas " .It appeared very

soon after my initial post regarding not wanting to use " synthetic " additives

in my products. The comment " I am through talking to anyone who wants

products without chemicals... " felt as if it was directed at that previous

email.

If I was mistaken, then I apologize.

[Guest guest]

I apologize for misunderstanding the reference to " faux pas " .It appeared very

soon after my initial post regarding not wanting to use " synthetic " additives

in my products. The comment " I am through talking to anyone who wants

products without chemicals... " felt as if it was directed at that previous

email.

If I was mistaken, then I apologize.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/19/2004 4:31:38 PM Central Standard Time, moeim2@...

writes:

> The comment " I am through talking to anyone who wants products without

> chemicals... "

I took this comment as more of a marketing approach / understanding than an

attack on your question ... see, I too will explain to people that my soaps are

what others might call all natural, but there's no such thing - it's a

market-hype lie. No-one picks olives, rubs them on the skin, and considers it

castile soap! Olives are processed, the oil I choose is reprocessed for

refinement

.... if man-handling / processing separates natural from chemical, olive oil

is chemical. Therefore, I rephrase to be accurate - most of my oils are whole

oils rather than fractioned fatty acids, glycerine is of course retained, etc.

but the lye and the making of the soap itself / production of the free

glycerine is chemical.

I don't think we should take high offense to a position so opposing to our

initial intents. I was ademately anti-chemical based on internet home-craft

hype, and came here to gain understanding and glean what I could to make my

" natural " line compete-worthy. I've been profoundly humbled, and not with

unkindness of any type but with objectivity and truth. I'm a " big girl, " and

found I

could handle it. How could I have expected to come into a " pro-chemical "

group and presume they'd be as pro-natural as they truly are? It's caused me to

re-word my representation of my " natural " products because truth is what I

expect - I'll represent no less to my customers.

We're adults. We're professionals. This list is like a virtual workplace

meeting room and, with that behavioral protocol in mind, feelings also go

through a learning curve while the intellect strives to learn and produce within

our

envisioned guidelines. With that perspective, we can appreciate how much all

the types of ingredients have contributed - and make informed choices.

-

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/19/2004 4:31:38 PM Central Standard Time, moeim2@...

writes:

> The comment " I am through talking to anyone who wants products without

> chemicals... "

I took this comment as more of a marketing approach / understanding than an

attack on your question ... see, I too will explain to people that my soaps are

what others might call all natural, but there's no such thing - it's a

market-hype lie. No-one picks olives, rubs them on the skin, and considers it

castile soap! Olives are processed, the oil I choose is reprocessed for

refinement

.... if man-handling / processing separates natural from chemical, olive oil

is chemical. Therefore, I rephrase to be accurate - most of my oils are whole

oils rather than fractioned fatty acids, glycerine is of course retained, etc.

but the lye and the making of the soap itself / production of the free

glycerine is chemical.

I don't think we should take high offense to a position so opposing to our

initial intents. I was ademately anti-chemical based on internet home-craft

hype, and came here to gain understanding and glean what I could to make my

" natural " line compete-worthy. I've been profoundly humbled, and not with

unkindness of any type but with objectivity and truth. I'm a " big girl, " and

found I

could handle it. How could I have expected to come into a " pro-chemical "

group and presume they'd be as pro-natural as they truly are? It's caused me to

re-word my representation of my " natural " products because truth is what I

expect - I'll represent no less to my customers.

We're adults. We're professionals. This list is like a virtual workplace

meeting room and, with that behavioral protocol in mind, feelings also go

through a learning curve while the intellect strives to learn and produce within

our

envisioned guidelines. With that perspective, we can appreciate how much all

the types of ingredients have contributed - and make informed choices.

-

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/20/2004 9:05:31 AM Pacific Standard Time,

katie36551@... writes:

How could I have expected to come into a " pro-chemical "

group and presume they'd be as pro-natural as they truly are? It's caused me

to

re-word my representation of my " natural " products because truth is what I

expect - I'll represent no less to my customers.

I agree with you ... it's hard to reevaluate previous modes of

thought..but...I'm a fast learner! I also am totally honest with my customers

as

well....

maureen