Re: 4s related popcorn death?

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Holy cow! Not exactly the publicity we need. Sadly I can understand his anger but not his actions.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8337522/Man-shot-dead-for-eating-popcorn-too-loudly-during-Black-Swan.html Thank goodness I always bring a pair of earplugs to the movies and don't own a gun, or else this might be about me.

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I imagine this guy has more going on than just an issue with popcorn.

Sure, I get ticked off and have thoughts of punching someone in the nose, but

kill? No way.

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I imagine this guy has more going on than just an issue with popcorn.

Sure, I get ticked off and have thoughts of punching someone in the nose, but

kill? No way.

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I read this in the news and the first thing that came to my mind was 4S.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8337522/Man-shot-dead-for-eating-popcorn-too-loudly-during-Black-Swan.html

Thank goodness I always bring a pair of earplugs to the movies and don't own a gun, or else this might be about me.

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I can tell you that you are not alone with that rage and what you say makes sense to me.

Shirl

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, 23 February, 2011 16:31:28Subject: Re: 4s related popcorn death?

I saw The Black Swan and by the time it was over I wanted to shoot myself!

Brilliant but disturbing.

Seriously though, I have gotten so full of rage when people eat, snort, or dogs bark that I "feel" like killing. Even become suicidal sometimes. The degree of rage frightens me and leads me to conclude that it has to be coming from an irrational part of our minds. This reaction we have is not at all rational.

An idea I have is that since it is known that we hear while in the womb, those sounds may have been disturbing to us or felt to be life threatening at the time. Maybe kept us from sleeping or just upsetting in some way. Our rational minds might not be developed enough to understand those stresses, and this may just be a restimulation of another time and mind set. Hence, the extreme irrational reaction.

We can try to "talk" ourselves out of these irrational thoughts with CBT, but our minds still have primative and primal reactions to unconscious thought.

Just something to think about. Again, I am just a lay thinker on the subject.

My daughter just showed me her new earphones.(She has 4S too). They are put out by Sony,model MDR-ED12LP.. enhanced Earbud Headphones (RED). They are only $20.00 and are BY FAR the best noise canceling earplugs I have ever used. I couldn't even hear my own voice as I told her how great they were. Available through Amazon. I just bought 4 pair.

Beats shooting some popcorn eating slob!

Mike L.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8337522/Man-shot-dead-for-eating-popcorn-too-loudly-during-Black-Swan.html

Thank goodness I always bring a pair of earplugs to the movies and don't own a gun, or else this might be about me.

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I can tell you that you are not alone with that rage and what you say makes sense to me.

Shirl

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, 23 February, 2011 16:31:28Subject: Re: 4s related popcorn death?

I saw The Black Swan and by the time it was over I wanted to shoot myself!

Brilliant but disturbing.

Seriously though, I have gotten so full of rage when people eat, snort, or dogs bark that I "feel" like killing. Even become suicidal sometimes. The degree of rage frightens me and leads me to conclude that it has to be coming from an irrational part of our minds. This reaction we have is not at all rational.

An idea I have is that since it is known that we hear while in the womb, those sounds may have been disturbing to us or felt to be life threatening at the time. Maybe kept us from sleeping or just upsetting in some way. Our rational minds might not be developed enough to understand those stresses, and this may just be a restimulation of another time and mind set. Hence, the extreme irrational reaction.

We can try to "talk" ourselves out of these irrational thoughts with CBT, but our minds still have primative and primal reactions to unconscious thought.

Just something to think about. Again, I am just a lay thinker on the subject.

My daughter just showed me her new earphones.(She has 4S too). They are put out by Sony,model MDR-ED12LP.. enhanced Earbud Headphones (RED). They are only $20.00 and are BY FAR the best noise canceling earplugs I have ever used. I couldn't even hear my own voice as I told her how great they were. Available through Amazon. I just bought 4 pair.

Beats shooting some popcorn eating slob!

Mike L.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8337522/Man-shot-dead-for-eating-popcorn-too-loudly-during-Black-Swan.html

Thank goodness I always bring a pair of earplugs to the movies and don't own a gun, or else this might be about me.

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Yes I am sorry you suffer so much too. It would be great if we could get some concrete help wouldnt it.

Shirley

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, 23 February, 2011 16:51:03Subject: Re: 4s related popcorn death?

I know you have the same degree of emotion as I do Shirley. We are very much alike with this.

I hope we can get some help for it at some point. Sorry you suffer so much with it.

Mike L.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8337522/Man-shot-dead-for-eating-popcorn-too-loudly-during-Black-Swan.html

Thank goodness I always bring a pair of earplugs to the movies and don't own a gun, or else this might be about me.

[Guest guest]

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I understand your rage, I have felt like this too :-( Although I must admit, I'm

much better than I use to be. Not sure why though as I didn't follow any special

treatments... Anyway, I found it really interesting how you mentioned about the

possibility of a fetus absorbing these sounds, etc. as I thought of the exact

same thing yesterday! It was an idea that just popped in my head.

But after thinking about it, I'm still not sure about that possibility. I do

feel like the disorder is physiological (neurological) at it's root, with a

whole slew of psychological issues that develop from it. We all so desperately

try to cope with it that we develop all kinds of strange behaviors. But there is

something about the fetus idea that is not making sense to me...

Maybe we are all reincarnated aliens from a different planet with a different

brain structure LOL This is why we are so rare ;-) Joking of course!

lulu

PS I'm new here since a few days

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ah geez, it gets worse!

This story was apparently misreported in the Guardian. It was the person with sound sensitivity who was killed.

The homicide victim complained that the other person was eating too loudly and he retaliated by shooting him.

See the report in the Register.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/21/popcorn_slaying/

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ah geez, it gets worse!

This story was apparently misreported in the Guardian. It was the person with sound sensitivity who was killed.

The homicide victim complained that the other person was eating too loudly and he retaliated by shooting him.

See the report in the Register.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/21/popcorn_slaying/

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ah geez, it gets worse!

This story was apparently misreported in the Guardian. It was the person with sound sensitivity who was killed.

The homicide victim complained that the other person was eating too loudly and he retaliated by shooting him.

See the report in the Register.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/21/popcorn_slaying/

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That is tragic, the article you linked to. This is why I don't go to

the movie theater anymore. My senses get overloaded by all the

sounds (people kicking the back of my seat) and now the visuals,

because there is always video and audio playing between showings up

on the screen now. No more calm time between showings.

I can't enjoy the movie theater because the sound of everyone

munching and slurping away is more intense than the movie. Oh well,

I'm thankful for DVD and Netflix, at least these options give me

control over how the sound reaches my ears. -Randall

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8337522/Man-shot-dead-for-eating-popcorn-too-loudly-during-Black-Swan.html

Thank goodness I always bring a pair of

earplugs to the movies and don't own a gun, or

else this might be about me.

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That is tragic, the article you linked to. This is why I don't go to

the movie theater anymore. My senses get overloaded by all the

sounds (people kicking the back of my seat) and now the visuals,

because there is always video and audio playing between showings up

on the screen now. No more calm time between showings.

I can't enjoy the movie theater because the sound of everyone

munching and slurping away is more intense than the movie. Oh well,

I'm thankful for DVD and Netflix, at least these options give me

control over how the sound reaches my ears. -Randall

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8337522/Man-shot-dead-for-eating-popcorn-too-loudly-during-Black-Swan.html

Thank goodness I always bring a pair of

earplugs to the movies and don't own a gun, or

else this might be about me.

[Guest guest]

That is tragic, the article you linked to. This is why I don't go to

the movie theater anymore. My senses get overloaded by all the

sounds (people kicking the back of my seat) and now the visuals,

because there is always video and audio playing between showings up

on the screen now. No more calm time between showings.

I can't enjoy the movie theater because the sound of everyone

munching and slurping away is more intense than the movie. Oh well,

I'm thankful for DVD and Netflix, at least these options give me

control over how the sound reaches my ears. -Randall

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8337522/Man-shot-dead-for-eating-popcorn-too-loudly-during-Black-Swan.html

Thank goodness I always bring a pair of

earplugs to the movies and don't own a gun, or

else this might be about me.

[Guest guest]

The last time I went to the movies with my husband I asked for a set of

headphones for the hearing impaired. It was the most pleasant movie theater

experience I have ever had!

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> That is tragic, the article you linked to. This is why I don't go to the

> movie theater anymore. My senses get overloaded by all the sounds

> (people kicking the back of my seat) and now the visuals, because there

> is always video and audio playing between showings up on the screen now.

> No more calm time between showings.

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> I can't enjoy the movie theater because the sound of everyone munching

> and slurping away is more intense than the movie. Oh well, I'm thankful

> for DVD and Netflix, at least these options give me control over how the

> sound reaches my ears. -Randall

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[Guest guest]

Hello,

It's interesting,for lack of a better word, that I can't go to the movies

because I can't stand hearing the silibance of the female actors in the movie

and yet the popcorn eating does not effect me.

This 4S thing is really wicked!

Best regards to all,

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So did I. It was brilliant! Sent from my iPhone

The last time I went to the movies with my husband I asked for a set of headphones for the hearing impaired. It was the most pleasant movie theater experience I have ever had!

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> That is tragic, the article you linked to. This is why I don't go to the

> movie theater anymore. My senses get overloaded by all the sounds

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> No more calm time between showings.

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> I can't enjoy the movie theater because the sound of everyone munching

> and slurping away is more intense than the movie. Oh well, I'm thankful

> for DVD and Netflix, at least these options give me control over how the

> sound reaches my ears. -Randall

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I'm on the exact same page as far as rage and rationality, . I'm so

grateful that I have the mental faculties to choose not to act on the deep,

extreme, irrational rage that overcomes me. It always plays out in my head - if

I walk past someone on the street chomping their gum with their mouth open, I

immediately imagine myself swinging my metal water bottle into their face - I

imagine their shock, the broken bones, it's extremely violent. The reaction is

automatic - I, like just about everyone else here, know that, given our current

understanding of the condition, I can't " train " myself to not experience those

feelings. But it's certainly a sobering thought to wonder what it would be like

if I didn't have the capability of distinguishing whether the reaction was

appropriate or not.

The unbearable feelings are always there, but I'm so glad that I have control

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I'm on the exact same page as far as rage and rationality, . I'm so

grateful that I have the mental faculties to choose not to act on the deep,

extreme, irrational rage that overcomes me. It always plays out in my head - if

I walk past someone on the street chomping their gum with their mouth open, I

immediately imagine myself swinging my metal water bottle into their face - I

imagine their shock, the broken bones, it's extremely violent. The reaction is

automatic - I, like just about everyone else here, know that, given our current

understanding of the condition, I can't " train " myself to not experience those

feelings. But it's certainly a sobering thought to wonder what it would be like

if I didn't have the capability of distinguishing whether the reaction was

appropriate or not.

The unbearable feelings are always there, but I'm so glad that I have control

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I'm on the exact same page as far as rage and rationality, . I'm so

grateful that I have the mental faculties to choose not to act on the deep,

extreme, irrational rage that overcomes me. It always plays out in my head - if

I walk past someone on the street chomping their gum with their mouth open, I

immediately imagine myself swinging my metal water bottle into their face - I

imagine their shock, the broken bones, it's extremely violent. The reaction is

automatic - I, like just about everyone else here, know that, given our current

understanding of the condition, I can't " train " myself to not experience those

feelings. But it's certainly a sobering thought to wonder what it would be like

if I didn't have the capability of distinguishing whether the reaction was

appropriate or not.

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over my actions.

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Sibilant.....Thanks for the new word to my vocabulary. I like how there is a

word for something that irritates me. It lets me know there are others who

notice this and it lets me speak about it better.

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> > > 4px; } #ygrp-actbar div a:first-child { /* border-right: 0px solid

> > > #000;*/ margin-right: 2px; padding-right: 5px; } #ygrp-mlmsg {

> > > font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, helvetica,clean, sans-serif;

> > > *font-size: small; *font: x-small; } #ygrp-mlmsg table { font-size:

> > > inherit; font: 100%; } #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea { font: 99%

> > > Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; } #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {

> > > font:115% monospace; *font-size:100%; } #ygrp-mlmsg * { line-height:

> > > 1.22em; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo { padding-bottom: 10px; } #ygrp-mlmsg a {

> > > color: #1E66AE; } #ygrp-msg p a { font-family: Verdana; } #ygrp-msg

> > > p#attach-count span { color: #1E66AE; font-weight: 700; } #ygrp-reco

> > > #reco-head { color: #ff7900; font-weight: 700; } #ygrp-reco {

> > > margin-bottom: 20px; padding: 0px; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a {

> > > font-size: 130%; text-decoration: none; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li {

> > > font-size: 77%; list-style-type: square; padding: 6px 0; }

> > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 8px; } #ygrp-text {

> > > font-family: Georgia; } #ygrp-text p { margin: 0 0 1em 0; } #ygrp-text

> > > tt { font-size: 120%; } #ygrp-vital ul li:last-child { border-right:

> > > none !important; } -->

> >

>