Re: Messed up Words of Wisdom

[Guest guest]

I know i love you becasue when you are gone there is this big empty hole.

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> Since we all seem to have so much in common, I was wondering if your

nadas had similar

> " words of wisdom " to depart to you that now in retrospect seem, well,

messed-up.

>

> Some of my recent favorites are:

>

> " Can't you see that when you help me, you are actually helping yourself,

because I'm all

> you've got in this world and you're all I've got. "

>

> " You should love me no matter what, and you should love what I do also,

because I'm your

> mother. Like the man whose mother always burnt the toast and now he

loves burnt toast

> because that's what his mother made "

>

> " You should always keep and hide a few of your boyfriends possessions so

that you have

> something to throw at him when you break up with him. "

>

> Anyone else want to share some messed-up " words of wisdom " ?

>

> Melany

>

[Guest guest]

I know i love you becasue when you are gone there is this big empty hole.

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> Since we all seem to have so much in common, I was wondering if your

nadas had similar

> " words of wisdom " to depart to you that now in retrospect seem, well,

messed-up.

>

> Some of my recent favorites are:

>

> " Can't you see that when you help me, you are actually helping yourself,

because I'm all

> you've got in this world and you're all I've got. "

>

> " You should love me no matter what, and you should love what I do also,

because I'm your

> mother. Like the man whose mother always burnt the toast and now he

loves burnt toast

> because that's what his mother made "

>

> " You should always keep and hide a few of your boyfriends possessions so

that you have

> something to throw at him when you break up with him. "

>

> Anyone else want to share some messed-up " words of wisdom " ?

>

> Melany

>

[Guest guest]

My fav. was " If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all "

I was all ways confused then why her mouth was allways running!

Lilly

junkinthere wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Since we all seem to have so much in common, I was wondering if your nadas had

similar

" words of wisdom " to depart to you that now in retrospect seem, well, messed-up.

Some of my recent favorites are:

" Can't you see that when you help me, you are actually helping yourself, because

I'm all

you've got in this world and you're all I've got. "

" You should love me no matter what, and you should love what I do also, because

I'm your

mother. Like the man whose mother always burnt the toast and now he loves burnt

toast

because that's what his mother made "

" You should always keep and hide a few of your boyfriends possessions so that

you have

something to throw at him when you break up with him. "

Anyone else want to share some messed-up " words of wisdom " ?

Melany

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

My fav. was " If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all "

I was all ways confused then why her mouth was allways running!

Lilly

junkinthere wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Since we all seem to have so much in common, I was wondering if your nadas had

similar

" words of wisdom " to depart to you that now in retrospect seem, well, messed-up.

Some of my recent favorites are:

" Can't you see that when you help me, you are actually helping yourself, because

I'm all

you've got in this world and you're all I've got. "

" You should love me no matter what, and you should love what I do also, because

I'm your

mother. Like the man whose mother always burnt the toast and now he loves burnt

toast

because that's what his mother made "

" You should always keep and hide a few of your boyfriends possessions so that

you have

something to throw at him when you break up with him. "

Anyone else want to share some messed-up " words of wisdom " ?

Melany

---------------------------------

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

[Guest guest]

" Can't you see that when you help me, you are actually helping yourself,

because I'm all you've got in this world... "

Melany, we may be sisters. Nada said that nearly every day.

Another great one: " No one will ever love you unless you make it worth their

while. "

Lilly LaFlure wrote:

My fav. was " If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all "

I was all ways confused then why her mouth was allways running!

Lilly

junkinthere wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Since we all seem to have so much in common, I was wondering if your nadas had

similar

" words of wisdom " to depart to you that now in retrospect seem, well,

messed-up.

Some of my recent favorites are:

" Can't you see that when you help me, you are actually helping yourself,

because I'm all

you've got in this world and you're all I've got. "

" You should love me no matter what, and you should love what I do also, because

I'm your

mother. Like the man whose mother always burnt the toast and now he loves burnt

toast

because that's what his mother made "

" You should always keep and hide a few of your boyfriends possessions so that

you have

something to throw at him when you break up with him. "

Anyone else want to share some messed-up " words of wisdom " ?

Melany

---------------------------------

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

[Guest guest]

" Can't you see that when you help me, you are actually helping yourself,

because I'm all you've got in this world... "

Melany, we may be sisters. Nada said that nearly every day.

Another great one: " No one will ever love you unless you make it worth their

while. "

Lilly LaFlure wrote:

My fav. was " If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all "

I was all ways confused then why her mouth was allways running!

Lilly

junkinthere wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Since we all seem to have so much in common, I was wondering if your nadas had

similar

" words of wisdom " to depart to you that now in retrospect seem, well,

messed-up.

Some of my recent favorites are:

" Can't you see that when you help me, you are actually helping yourself,

because I'm all

you've got in this world and you're all I've got. "

" You should love me no matter what, and you should love what I do also, because

I'm your

mother. Like the man whose mother always burnt the toast and now he loves burnt

toast

because that's what his mother made "

" You should always keep and hide a few of your boyfriends possessions so that

you have

something to throw at him when you break up with him. "

Anyone else want to share some messed-up " words of wisdom " ?

Melany

---------------------------------

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

[Guest guest]

Oh dear everything Yeti said was completely messed up. No surprise

since the person saying it was like a dog's breakfast…

" I don't love you because you are unlovable " shortly followed by " A

mother's love is always unconditional " followed by " It's always those

closest to you that hurt you the most "

" You are JEALOUS of me " … who wouldn't be?????????? People fleeing

right left and centre…

Pearls of wisdom… come from oysters…

[Guest guest]

Oh my god Lilly, we may indeed be sisters. Nada used to tell me

" people aren't kind to you because you deserve it, they are kind

because they are kind people, remember that and be grateful. "

> Melany, we may be sisters. Nada said that nearly every day.

>

> Another great one: " No one will ever love you unless you make it

worth their while. "

>

> Lilly LaFlure wrote:

My fav. was " If you don't have anything nice to say, don't

say anything at all " I was all ways confused then why her mouth was

allways running!

>

> Lilly

[Guest guest]

Oh my god Lilly, we may indeed be sisters. Nada used to tell me

" people aren't kind to you because you deserve it, they are kind

because they are kind people, remember that and be grateful. "

> Melany, we may be sisters. Nada said that nearly every day.

>

> Another great one: " No one will ever love you unless you make it

worth their while. "

>

> Lilly LaFlure wrote:

My fav. was " If you don't have anything nice to say, don't

say anything at all " I was all ways confused then why her mouth was

allways running!

>

> Lilly

[Guest guest]

And, to be fair I can see some wisdom in that. But she sure didn't

live by it!

> My fav. was " If you don't have anything nice to say, don't

> say anything at all " I was all ways confused then why her mouth was

> allways running!

> >

> > Lilly

>

[Guest guest]

And, to be fair I can see some wisdom in that. But she sure didn't

live by it!

> My fav. was " If you don't have anything nice to say, don't

> say anything at all " I was all ways confused then why her mouth was

> allways running!

> >

> > Lilly

>

[Guest guest]

See if they could only hear themselves then they would be ok!

Lilly

junkinthere wrote:

And, to be fair I can see some wisdom in that. But she sure didn't

live by it!

> My fav. was " If you don't have anything nice to say, don't

> say anything at all " I was all ways confused then why her mouth was

> allways running!

> >

> > Lilly

>

---------------------------------

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Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

[Guest guest]

See if they could only hear themselves then they would be ok!

Lilly

junkinthere wrote:

And, to be fair I can see some wisdom in that. But she sure didn't

live by it!

> My fav. was " If you don't have anything nice to say, don't

> say anything at all " I was all ways confused then why her mouth was

> allways running!

> >

> > Lilly

>

---------------------------------

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

[Guest guest]

not sure if these are all words of wisdom, but they are gems

nonetheless:

" I'm your mother, of course I love you, I just don't like you most

of the time "

" I don't say these things to hurt you, I only tell you these things

because I am your mother, nobody will ever be as honest with you as

your mother "

" If I knew how hard it would be to be a mother, I never would have

had kids " (notice how much 'nicer' it is to say that instead of " I

wish you were never born " )

" I'm the whipping post. You teach people how to treat you. I guess

you got the memo. "

" You can only count of yourself in this crazy world. I don't have

anybody to help me, I can only depend on myself. " (she says this

while her actions scream " depend on me, need me, don't be self

sufficient or I won't have a reason to live " and also while I used

to spend almost every waking hour supporting her and trying to get

her needs met)

" I'm too proud, I won't ask for money if I need it, I'll find a way

because that's the kind of person I am, I don't like to be a burden

on people " ... " by the way, is there any way you can you transfer

$500 into my account so I can pay X bill? "

" I almost drove my car into a tree today, I think I just need to

leave this world, to end all my suffering. It would be so easy to

just be dead " ... " I would never really kill myself, suicide is a sin

and I believe in God "

> > My fav. was " If you don't have anything nice to say,

don't

> > say anything at all " I was all ways confused then why her mouth

was

> > allways running!

> > >

> > > Lilly

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ah, Eva!

Some of these are my mother's greatest hits! Including . . .

" I can only count on myself. I have no one to turn to. "

(Used while making her emotions the primary focus in the house.)

" I just don't want to live anymore. "

(The last time she said this was a year ago. I wouldn't respond, so she began

walking

around the neighborhood barefoot in her pajamas.)

Other favorites:

" You didn't have it that bad. You don't know what it's like to have a difficult

childhood. "

" I would never talk to my mother the way you talk to me. "

(Used most often when I set boundaries or stand up for myself.)

" You respect your father so much more than you respect me. "

(Again, used when I stood up for myself or set boundaries for myself.)

" No one loves me. "

" No one will ever love you as much as your mother loves you. "

" We're poor. "

(She was a single mom and she struggled, but we were never poor.)

" I give up. "

(She used this one a lot when I was a kid. That was fun to hear when I was too

young to

work, or do anything to support myself. That's like sailing on a boat and having

the boat

say, 'You know what? I'm going to sink right now.')

" I'm just a failure. " or " I'm sorry you think I'm such a failure. "

(Used to elicit soothing and sympathy when she has done something self-defeating

or

when she's done something hurtful or wrong to someone else.)

" I just refused to take any job that wouldn't let me be there for my kids. "

(Used when faced with the fact that she often sabotaged every job she had, or

simply quit

when criticized by an authority figure.)

" I can't take it anymore. "

(When she was still in a 12-Step program, this was often the last thing she said

before

grabbing her car keys and putting on her shoes, which was her non-verbal way of

saying

'I'm going to go drink now.' At which point, I, from ages 8 to 15, etc., would

run to her and

assuage her, and beg her not to drink. The ironic thing is that she actually

ended up

relapsing when my brother and I had both left for college, in secret, when no

one was

home.)

[Guest guest]

Ah, Eva!

Some of these are my mother's greatest hits! Including . . .

" I can only count on myself. I have no one to turn to. "

(Used while making her emotions the primary focus in the house.)

" I just don't want to live anymore. "

(The last time she said this was a year ago. I wouldn't respond, so she began

walking

around the neighborhood barefoot in her pajamas.)

Other favorites:

" You didn't have it that bad. You don't know what it's like to have a difficult

childhood. "

" I would never talk to my mother the way you talk to me. "

(Used most often when I set boundaries or stand up for myself.)

" You respect your father so much more than you respect me. "

(Again, used when I stood up for myself or set boundaries for myself.)

" No one loves me. "

" No one will ever love you as much as your mother loves you. "

" We're poor. "

(She was a single mom and she struggled, but we were never poor.)

" I give up. "

(She used this one a lot when I was a kid. That was fun to hear when I was too

young to

work, or do anything to support myself. That's like sailing on a boat and having

the boat

say, 'You know what? I'm going to sink right now.')

" I'm just a failure. " or " I'm sorry you think I'm such a failure. "

(Used to elicit soothing and sympathy when she has done something self-defeating

or

when she's done something hurtful or wrong to someone else.)

" I just refused to take any job that wouldn't let me be there for my kids. "

(Used when faced with the fact that she often sabotaged every job she had, or

simply quit

when criticized by an authority figure.)

" I can't take it anymore. "

(When she was still in a 12-Step program, this was often the last thing she said

before

grabbing her car keys and putting on her shoes, which was her non-verbal way of

saying

'I'm going to go drink now.' At which point, I, from ages 8 to 15, etc., would

run to her and

assuage her, and beg her not to drink. The ironic thing is that she actually

ended up

relapsing when my brother and I had both left for college, in secret, when no

one was

home.)

[Guest guest]

Ah, Eva!

Some of these are my mother's greatest hits! Including . . .

" I can only count on myself. I have no one to turn to. "

(Used while making her emotions the primary focus in the house.)

" I just don't want to live anymore. "

(The last time she said this was a year ago. I wouldn't respond, so she began

walking

around the neighborhood barefoot in her pajamas.)

Other favorites:

" You didn't have it that bad. You don't know what it's like to have a difficult

childhood. "

" I would never talk to my mother the way you talk to me. "

(Used most often when I set boundaries or stand up for myself.)

" You respect your father so much more than you respect me. "

(Again, used when I stood up for myself or set boundaries for myself.)

" No one loves me. "

" No one will ever love you as much as your mother loves you. "

" We're poor. "

(She was a single mom and she struggled, but we were never poor.)

" I give up. "

(She used this one a lot when I was a kid. That was fun to hear when I was too

young to

work, or do anything to support myself. That's like sailing on a boat and having

the boat

say, 'You know what? I'm going to sink right now.')

" I'm just a failure. " or " I'm sorry you think I'm such a failure. "

(Used to elicit soothing and sympathy when she has done something self-defeating

or

when she's done something hurtful or wrong to someone else.)

" I just refused to take any job that wouldn't let me be there for my kids. "

(Used when faced with the fact that she often sabotaged every job she had, or

simply quit

when criticized by an authority figure.)

" I can't take it anymore. "

(When she was still in a 12-Step program, this was often the last thing she said

before

grabbing her car keys and putting on her shoes, which was her non-verbal way of

saying

'I'm going to go drink now.' At which point, I, from ages 8 to 15, etc., would

run to her and

assuage her, and beg her not to drink. The ironic thing is that she actually

ended up

relapsing when my brother and I had both left for college, in secret, when no

one was

home.)

[Guest guest]

Hi Eva,

That reminds me of:

" You don't have to like me to love me. Liking and loving are two

different things. "

" It's better that I'm mean to strangers and kind to the people I care

about than the other way around. Most people are kind to strangers and

treat their family horribly. That's why people are horrified, they

think I act even worse at home. " (boy, you sure got 'em fooled nada)

" Nice doesn't mean good. Just because I'm not nice doesn't mean I'm

not good. People should be willing to put up with me being difficult

because I will do what's best for them. "

And the crown jewel (must be said after loaded pause with eyes tearing

up and lowe lip tremble):

" Don't you think that when you say I make you feel bad about yourself

that it makes me feel bad about myself? "

Mel

PS-I've heard the " I'd be better off without ever having had you " in

so many many various ways. She was good at disguising that one.

[Guest guest]

Hi Eva,

That reminds me of:

" You don't have to like me to love me. Liking and loving are two

different things. "

" It's better that I'm mean to strangers and kind to the people I care

about than the other way around. Most people are kind to strangers and

treat their family horribly. That's why people are horrified, they

think I act even worse at home. " (boy, you sure got 'em fooled nada)

" Nice doesn't mean good. Just because I'm not nice doesn't mean I'm

not good. People should be willing to put up with me being difficult

because I will do what's best for them. "

And the crown jewel (must be said after loaded pause with eyes tearing

up and lowe lip tremble):

" Don't you think that when you say I make you feel bad about yourself

that it makes me feel bad about myself? "

Mel

PS-I've heard the " I'd be better off without ever having had you " in

so many many various ways. She was good at disguising that one.

[Guest guest]

Hi Eva,

That reminds me of:

" You don't have to like me to love me. Liking and loving are two

different things. "

" It's better that I'm mean to strangers and kind to the people I care

about than the other way around. Most people are kind to strangers and

treat their family horribly. That's why people are horrified, they

think I act even worse at home. " (boy, you sure got 'em fooled nada)

" Nice doesn't mean good. Just because I'm not nice doesn't mean I'm

not good. People should be willing to put up with me being difficult

because I will do what's best for them. "

And the crown jewel (must be said after loaded pause with eyes tearing

up and lowe lip tremble):

" Don't you think that when you say I make you feel bad about yourself

that it makes me feel bad about myself? "

Mel

PS-I've heard the " I'd be better off without ever having had you " in

so many many various ways. She was good at disguising that one.

[Guest guest]

" Be back in an hour. Don't wear out your welcome. " "

(people can only stand you for so long. you're a pain in

everyone's ass)

[Guest guest]

" Be back in an hour. Don't wear out your welcome. " "

(people can only stand you for so long. you're a pain in

everyone's ass)

[Guest guest]

The only words of wisdom my mom ever shared with me were:

Men think with their d**** and don't you ever forget it. They only

want one thing...

I was about 7 when she told me this- this was the only life lesson I

received.

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> Since we all seem to have so much in common, I was wondering if

your nadas had similar

> " words of wisdom " to depart to you that now in retrospect seem,

well, messed-up.

>

> Some of my recent favorites are:

>

> " Can't you see that when you help me, you are actually helping

yourself, because I'm all

> you've got in this world and you're all I've got. "

>

> " You should love me no matter what, and you should love what I do

also, because I'm your

> mother. Like the man whose mother always burnt the toast and now he

loves burnt toast

> because that's what his mother made "

>

> " You should always keep and hide a few of your boyfriends

possessions so that you have

> something to throw at him when you break up with him. "

>

> Anyone else want to share some messed-up " words of wisdom " ?

>

> Melany

>

[Guest guest]

The only words of wisdom my mom ever shared with me were:

Men think with their d**** and don't you ever forget it. They only

want one thing...

I was about 7 when she told me this- this was the only life lesson I

received.

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> Since we all seem to have so much in common, I was wondering if

your nadas had similar

> " words of wisdom " to depart to you that now in retrospect seem,

well, messed-up.

>

> Some of my recent favorites are:

>

> " Can't you see that when you help me, you are actually helping

yourself, because I'm all

> you've got in this world and you're all I've got. "

>

> " You should love me no matter what, and you should love what I do

also, because I'm your

> mother. Like the man whose mother always burnt the toast and now he

loves burnt toast

> because that's what his mother made "

>

> " You should always keep and hide a few of your boyfriends

possessions so that you have

> something to throw at him when you break up with him. "

>

> Anyone else want to share some messed-up " words of wisdom " ?

>

> Melany

>

[Guest guest]

The only words of wisdom my mom ever shared with me were:

Men think with their d**** and don't you ever forget it. They only

want one thing...

I was about 7 when she told me this- this was the only life lesson I

received.

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> Since we all seem to have so much in common, I was wondering if

your nadas had similar

> " words of wisdom " to depart to you that now in retrospect seem,

well, messed-up.

>

> Some of my recent favorites are:

>

> " Can't you see that when you help me, you are actually helping

yourself, because I'm all

> you've got in this world and you're all I've got. "

>

> " You should love me no matter what, and you should love what I do

also, because I'm your

> mother. Like the man whose mother always burnt the toast and now he

loves burnt toast

> because that's what his mother made "

>

> " You should always keep and hide a few of your boyfriends

possessions so that you have

> something to throw at him when you break up with him. "

>

> Anyone else want to share some messed-up " words of wisdom " ?

>

> Melany

>