Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

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Hi Marie,I googled Gerovital and found this site which might be good to check out.http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/52gerovital.php#1 I don't know what form of the drug you use, but it sounds like self-medicating with it could make problems. Like most Lymies, I self-treat all the time, mostly with success, but I don't want to create any more problems that the ones I already have.Be well,LénaI talk in the desert each time I talk about gerovital. becuase I am the only one to know it on the forum .it lift the depression very well and has so many other excelent effects: antiinfectious regenerative detoxification gives energy.cost very little and ti exsit in pill so you do no tneed to inject it if you prefere. Very powerful. MarieTo: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:14:40 PMSubject: Re: OT - depression Hi Debra, I think its super important to take whatever steps necessary for you to feel well. I know how hard it is to be a parent when you are sick and/or depressed. My children were 4 and 6 when I got ill and I really had nothing to offer them for a couple of years. I simply wasn't there. Mind or body. I was just circling the drain. One of my many symptoms was loss of cognitive function. I remembered nothing and often would mid sentence lost track. I almost gave up talking altogether as I was becoming more stupid by the day. It comes back. The brain can heal itself. Don't think the worst. You will get better. Tamara > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > results.> > >> >>Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

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Dear Lena,

Thank you for your link, and thank you very much for your concern.

They do not say how much the self medicated person took to get a kydney failure. May be they wanted to return the clock too fast. He may have gone out of the security envelopp to my opinion .

I have been taking the regular protocol of 5cc every other day with no stop even thought the protocol ask for one month on, and one month off. because it is for the paralysis . if I stopp paralysis comes back.

after one year, I had to lower the dosage as it was accelerating my heart . I take now 3cc every 3 days.This has been prescribed to me by the assistant of the Dct Aslan ( inventor): Dct Sapse now 85 years old or more . He told me at this time to decrease it by half , then to adjust by myself according to how I was feeling.

The pills are at a low dosage with no prescrition needed. Meanse they are harmeless except for allergic poeples who have to be carefull with everything including food.

it is true that it makes you younger even thought I could not care less: I look 10 years youger than before I began . The antidepressant effect i feel it within 15 minutes.

It really help some time a lot sometime a little.

Nothing else has helped me for depression than that.

Thank you again for your thougt

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:54:39 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Hi Marie, I googled Gerovital and found this site which might be good to check out.

http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/52gerovital.php#1

I don't know what form of the drug you use, but it sounds like self-medicating with it could make problems. Like most Lymies, I self-treat all the time, mostly with success, but I don't want to create any more problems that the ones I already have.

Be well,

Léna

I talk in the desert each time I talk about gerovital. becuase I am the only one to know it on the forum .

it lift the depression very well and has so many other excelent effects: antiinfectious regenerative detoxification gives energy.

cost very little and ti exsit in pill so you do no tneed to inject it if you prefere.

Very powerful.

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:14:40 PMSubject: Re: OT - depression

Hi Debra, I think its super important to take whatever steps necessary for you to feel well. I know how hard it is to be a parent when you are sick and/or depressed. My children were 4 and 6 when I got ill and I really had nothing to offer them for a couple of years. I simply wasn't there. Mind or body. I was just circling the drain. One of my many symptoms was loss of cognitive function. I remembered nothing and often would mid sentence lost track. I almost gave up talking altogether as I was becoming more stupid by the day. It comes back. The brain can heal itself. Don't think the worst. You will get better. Tamara > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > results.> > >> >>Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

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Dear Lena,

Thank you for your link, and thank you very much for your concern.

They do not say how much the self medicated person took to get a kydney failure. May be they wanted to return the clock too fast. He may have gone out of the security envelopp to my opinion .

I have been taking the regular protocol of 5cc every other day with no stop even thought the protocol ask for one month on, and one month off. because it is for the paralysis . if I stopp paralysis comes back.

after one year, I had to lower the dosage as it was accelerating my heart . I take now 3cc every 3 days.This has been prescribed to me by the assistant of the Dct Aslan ( inventor): Dct Sapse now 85 years old or more . He told me at this time to decrease it by half , then to adjust by myself according to how I was feeling.

The pills are at a low dosage with no prescrition needed. Meanse they are harmeless except for allergic poeples who have to be carefull with everything including food.

it is true that it makes you younger even thought I could not care less: I look 10 years youger than before I began . The antidepressant effect i feel it within 15 minutes.

It really help some time a lot sometime a little.

Nothing else has helped me for depression than that.

Thank you again for your thougt

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:54:39 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Hi Marie, I googled Gerovital and found this site which might be good to check out.

http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/52gerovital.php#1

I don't know what form of the drug you use, but it sounds like self-medicating with it could make problems. Like most Lymies, I self-treat all the time, mostly with success, but I don't want to create any more problems that the ones I already have.

Be well,

Léna

I talk in the desert each time I talk about gerovital. becuase I am the only one to know it on the forum .

it lift the depression very well and has so many other excelent effects: antiinfectious regenerative detoxification gives energy.

cost very little and ti exsit in pill so you do no tneed to inject it if you prefere.

Very powerful.

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:14:40 PMSubject: Re: OT - depression

Hi Debra, I think its super important to take whatever steps necessary for you to feel well. I know how hard it is to be a parent when you are sick and/or depressed. My children were 4 and 6 when I got ill and I really had nothing to offer them for a couple of years. I simply wasn't there. Mind or body. I was just circling the drain. One of my many symptoms was loss of cognitive function. I remembered nothing and often would mid sentence lost track. I almost gave up talking altogether as I was becoming more stupid by the day. It comes back. The brain can heal itself. Don't think the worst. You will get better. Tamara > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > results.> > >> >>Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

[Guest guest]

Dear Lena,

Thank you for your link, and thank you very much for your concern.

They do not say how much the self medicated person took to get a kydney failure. May be they wanted to return the clock too fast. He may have gone out of the security envelopp to my opinion .

I have been taking the regular protocol of 5cc every other day with no stop even thought the protocol ask for one month on, and one month off. because it is for the paralysis . if I stopp paralysis comes back.

after one year, I had to lower the dosage as it was accelerating my heart . I take now 3cc every 3 days.This has been prescribed to me by the assistant of the Dct Aslan ( inventor): Dct Sapse now 85 years old or more . He told me at this time to decrease it by half , then to adjust by myself according to how I was feeling.

The pills are at a low dosage with no prescrition needed. Meanse they are harmeless except for allergic poeples who have to be carefull with everything including food.

it is true that it makes you younger even thought I could not care less: I look 10 years youger than before I began . The antidepressant effect i feel it within 15 minutes.

It really help some time a lot sometime a little.

Nothing else has helped me for depression than that.

Thank you again for your thougt

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:54:39 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Hi Marie, I googled Gerovital and found this site which might be good to check out.

http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/52gerovital.php#1

I don't know what form of the drug you use, but it sounds like self-medicating with it could make problems. Like most Lymies, I self-treat all the time, mostly with success, but I don't want to create any more problems that the ones I already have.

Be well,

Léna

I talk in the desert each time I talk about gerovital. becuase I am the only one to know it on the forum .

it lift the depression very well and has so many other excelent effects: antiinfectious regenerative detoxification gives energy.

cost very little and ti exsit in pill so you do no tneed to inject it if you prefere.

Very powerful.

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:14:40 PMSubject: Re: OT - depression

Hi Debra, I think its super important to take whatever steps necessary for you to feel well. I know how hard it is to be a parent when you are sick and/or depressed. My children were 4 and 6 when I got ill and I really had nothing to offer them for a couple of years. I simply wasn't there. Mind or body. I was just circling the drain. One of my many symptoms was loss of cognitive function. I remembered nothing and often would mid sentence lost track. I almost gave up talking altogether as I was becoming more stupid by the day. It comes back. The brain can heal itself. Don't think the worst. You will get better. Tamara > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > results.> > >> >>Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

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Dear Marie,You obviously are in good care. I'm relieved to hear that knowledgeable people are advising you. Gerovital sounds wonderful; especially as it helped you with your paralysis; that's fantastic!I'll definitely study it further. You mention taking 3cc. Does that mean that you take it as an injection? Further on, you mention pills. I guess I'll google it some more. So glad it's helping you!Be well,LénaDear Lena, Thank you for your link, and thank you very much for your concern.They do not say how much the self medicated person took to get a kydney failure. May be they wanted to return the clock too fast. He may have gone out of the security envelopp to my opinion . I have been taking the regular protocol of 5cc every other day with no stop even thought the protocol ask for one month on, and one month off. because it is for the paralysis . if I stopp paralysis comes back.after one year, I had to lower the dosage as it was accelerating my heart . I take now 3cc every 3 days.This has been prescribed to me by the assistant of the Dct Aslan ( inventor): Dct Sapse now 85 years old or more . He told me at this time to decrease it by half , then to adjust by myself according to how I was feeling. The pills are at a low dosage with no prescrition needed. Meanse they are harmeless except for allergic poeples who have to be carefull with everything including food. it is true that it makes you younger even thought I could not care less: I look 10 years youger than before I began . The antidepressant effect i feel it within 15 minutes.It really help some time a lot sometime a little.Nothing else has helped me for depression than that. Thank you again for your thougtMarie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:54:39 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note Hi Marie,I googled Gerovital and found this site which might be good to check out.http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/52gerovital.php#1 I don't know what form of the drug you use, but it sounds like self-medicating with it could make problems. Like most Lymies, I self-treat all the time, mostly with success, but I don't want to create any more problems that the ones I already have.Be well,LénaI talk in the desert each time I talk about gerovital. becuase I am the only one to know it on the forum .it lift the depression very well and has so many other excelent effects: antiinfectious regenerative detoxification gives energy.cost very little and ti exsit in pill so you do no tneed to inject it if you prefere. Very powerful. MarieTo: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:14:40 PMSubject: Re: OT - depression Hi Debra, I think its super important to take whatever steps necessary for you to feel well. I know how hard it is to be a parent when you are sick and/or depressed. My children were 4 and 6 when I got ill and I really had nothing to offer them for a couple of years. I simply wasn't there. Mind or body. I was just circling the drain. One of my many symptoms was loss of cognitive function. I remembered nothing and often would mid sentence lost track. I almost gave up talking altogether as I was becoming more stupid by the day. It comes back. The brain can heal itself. Don't think the worst. You will get better. Tamara > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > results.> > >> >>Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

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Dear Lean,

I was prescribed to me one year ago when I got my stem cell implantation by Dct Sapse . it was at this time 5cc every other day .

Since then he has been answering to me on the telephone each time I needed agood man .

I understood that geronvital act as an antogonist of the stress hormone. I do it intramuscular myself. In fact I do it subcutaneously as it is not painfull and more easy.

But this not accademic. I used ot be a nurse so obviously it helped me .

yes there are pills.

if you wish I send you the link where I ordered it in Roumania . here in USA you can get it too I would try first the europeen link as it is cheaper providing

they had no problems with the bordure. I came with a reserve for the year so i do not know how it goes throught the bordure they will answer you by email .

Take care Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 9:04:00 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Dear Marie, You obviously are in good care. I'm relieved to hear that knowledgeable people are advising you. Gerovital sounds wonderful; especially as it helped you with your paralysis; that's fantastic!

I'll definitely study it further. You mention taking 3cc. Does that mean that you take it as an injection? Further on, you mention pills. I guess I'll google it some more. So glad it's helping you!

Be well,

Léna

Dear Lena,

Thank you for your link, and thank you very much for your concern.

They do not say how much the self medicated person took to get a kydney failure. May be they wanted to return the clock too fast. He may have gone out of the security envelopp to my opinion .

I have been taking the regular protocol of 5cc every other day with no stop even thought the protocol ask for one month on, and one month off. because it is for the paralysis . if I stopp paralysis comes back.

after one year, I had to lower the dosage as it was accelerating my heart . I take now 3cc every 3 days.This has been prescribed to me by the assistant of the Dct Aslan ( inventor): Dct Sapse now 85 years old or more . He told me at this time to decrease it by half , then to adjust by myself according to how I was feeling.

The pills are at a low dosage with no prescrition needed. Meanse they are harmeless except for allergic poeples who have to be carefull with everything including food.

it is true that it makes you younger even thought I could not care less: I look 10 years youger than before I began . The antidepressant effect i feel it within 15 minutes.

It really help some time a lot sometime a little.

Nothing else has helped me for depression than that.

Thank you again for your thougt

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:54:39 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Hi Marie,

I googled Gerovital and found this site which might be good to check out.

http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/52gerovital.php#1

I don't know what form of the drug you use, but it sounds like self-medicating with it could make problems. Like most Lymies, I self-treat all the time, mostly with success, but I don't want to create any more problems that the ones I already have.

Be well,

Léna

I talk in the desert each time I talk about gerovital. becuase I am the only one to know it on the forum .

it lift the depression very well and has so many other excelent effects: antiinfectious regenerative detoxification gives energy.

cost very little and ti exsit in pill so you do no tneed to inject it if you prefere.

Very powerful.

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:14:40 PMSubject: Re: OT - depression

Hi Debra, I think its super important to take whatever steps necessary for you to feel well. I know how hard it is to be a parent when you are sick and/or depressed. My children were 4 and 6 when I got ill and I really had nothing to offer them for a couple of years. I simply wasn't there. Mind or body. I was just circling the drain. One of my many symptoms was loss of cognitive function. I remembered nothing and often would mid sentence lost track. I almost gave up talking altogether as I was becoming more stupid by the day. It comes back. The brain can heal itself. Don't think the worst. You will get better. Tamara > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > results.> > >> >>Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

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Dear Marie,Yes, thank you. I'd love to get the link. I try to keep a list of sources for possible future treatments to explore. sometimes I don't act on them for a long time, but then decide to try and it's good to know how and where to get it.Be well,LénaDear Lean, I was prescribed to me one year ago when I got my stem cell implantation by Dct Sapse . it was at this time 5cc every other day .Since then he has been answering to me on the telephone each time I needed agood man .I understood that geronvital act as an antogonist of the stress hormone. I do it intramuscular myself. In fact I do it subcutaneously as it is not painfull and more easy.But this not accademic. I used ot be a nurse so obviously it helped me . yes there are pills.if you wish I send you the link where I ordered it in Roumania . here in USA you can get it too I would try first the europeen link as it is cheaper providingthey had no problems with the bordure. I came with a reserve for the year so i do not know how it goes throught the bordure they will answer you by email .Take care Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 9:04:00 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note Dear Marie,You obviously are in good care. I'm relieved to hear that knowledgeable people are advising you. Gerovital sounds wonderful; especially as it helped you with your paralysis; that's fantastic!I'll definitely study it further. You mention taking 3cc. Does that mean that you take it as an injection? Further on, you mention pills. I guess I'll google it some more. So glad it's helping you!Be well,LénaDear Lena, Thank you for your link, and thank you very much for your concern.They do not say how much the self medicated person took to get a kydney failure. May be they wanted to return the clock too fast. He may have gone out of the security envelopp to my opinion . I have been taking the regular protocol of 5cc every other day with no stop even thought the protocol ask for one month on, and one month off. because it is for the paralysis . if I stopp paralysis comes back.after one year, I had to lower the dosage as it was accelerating my heart . I take now 3cc every 3 days.This has been prescribed to me by the assistant of the Dct Aslan ( inventor): Dct Sapse now 85 years old or more . He told me at this time to decrease it by half , then to adjust by myself according to how I was feeling. The pills are at a low dosage with no prescrition needed. Meanse they are harmeless except for allergic poeples who have to be carefull with everything including food. it is true that it makes you younger even thought I could not care less: I look 10 years youger than before I began . The antidepressant effect i feel it within 15 minutes.It really help some time a lot sometime a little.Nothing else has helped me for depression than that. Thank you again for your thougtMarie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:54:39 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note Hi Marie,I googled Gerovital and found this site which might be good to check out.http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/52gerovital.php#1 I don't know what form of the drug you use, but it sounds like self-medicating with it could make problems. Like most Lymies, I self-treat all the time, mostly with success, but I don't want to create any more problems that the ones I already have.Be well,LénaI talk in the desert each time I talk about gerovital. becuase I am the only one to know it on the forum .it lift the depression very well and has so many other excelent effects: antiinfectious regenerative detoxification gives energy.cost very little and ti exsit in pill so you do no tneed to inject it if you prefere. Very powerful. MarieTo: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:14:40 PMSubject: Re: OT - depression Hi Debra, I think its super important to take whatever steps necessary for you to feel well. I know how hard it is to be a parent when you are sick and/or depressed. My children were 4 and 6 when I got ill and I really had nothing to offer them for a couple of years. I simply wasn't there. Mind or body. I was just circling the drain. One of my many symptoms was loss of cognitive function. I remembered nothing and often would mid sentence lost track. I almost gave up talking altogether as I was becoming more stupid by the day. It comes back. The brain can heal itself. Don't think the worst. You will get better. Tamara > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > results.> > >> >>Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

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Dear Marie,Yes, thank you. I'd love to get the link. I try to keep a list of sources for possible future treatments to explore. sometimes I don't act on them for a long time, but then decide to try and it's good to know how and where to get it.Be well,LénaDear Lean, I was prescribed to me one year ago when I got my stem cell implantation by Dct Sapse . it was at this time 5cc every other day .Since then he has been answering to me on the telephone each time I needed agood man .I understood that geronvital act as an antogonist of the stress hormone. I do it intramuscular myself. In fact I do it subcutaneously as it is not painfull and more easy.But this not accademic. I used ot be a nurse so obviously it helped me . yes there are pills.if you wish I send you the link where I ordered it in Roumania . here in USA you can get it too I would try first the europeen link as it is cheaper providingthey had no problems with the bordure. I came with a reserve for the year so i do not know how it goes throught the bordure they will answer you by email .Take care Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 9:04:00 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note Dear Marie,You obviously are in good care. I'm relieved to hear that knowledgeable people are advising you. Gerovital sounds wonderful; especially as it helped you with your paralysis; that's fantastic!I'll definitely study it further. You mention taking 3cc. Does that mean that you take it as an injection? Further on, you mention pills. I guess I'll google it some more. So glad it's helping you!Be well,LénaDear Lena, Thank you for your link, and thank you very much for your concern.They do not say how much the self medicated person took to get a kydney failure. May be they wanted to return the clock too fast. He may have gone out of the security envelopp to my opinion . I have been taking the regular protocol of 5cc every other day with no stop even thought the protocol ask for one month on, and one month off. because it is for the paralysis . if I stopp paralysis comes back.after one year, I had to lower the dosage as it was accelerating my heart . I take now 3cc every 3 days.This has been prescribed to me by the assistant of the Dct Aslan ( inventor): Dct Sapse now 85 years old or more . He told me at this time to decrease it by half , then to adjust by myself according to how I was feeling. The pills are at a low dosage with no prescrition needed. Meanse they are harmeless except for allergic poeples who have to be carefull with everything including food. it is true that it makes you younger even thought I could not care less: I look 10 years youger than before I began . The antidepressant effect i feel it within 15 minutes.It really help some time a lot sometime a little.Nothing else has helped me for depression than that. Thank you again for your thougtMarie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:54:39 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note Hi Marie,I googled Gerovital and found this site which might be good to check out.http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/52gerovital.php#1 I don't know what form of the drug you use, but it sounds like self-medicating with it could make problems. Like most Lymies, I self-treat all the time, mostly with success, but I don't want to create any more problems that the ones I already have.Be well,LénaI talk in the desert each time I talk about gerovital. becuase I am the only one to know it on the forum .it lift the depression very well and has so many other excelent effects: antiinfectious regenerative detoxification gives energy.cost very little and ti exsit in pill so you do no tneed to inject it if you prefere. Very powerful. MarieTo: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:14:40 PMSubject: Re: OT - depression Hi Debra, I think its super important to take whatever steps necessary for you to feel well. I know how hard it is to be a parent when you are sick and/or depressed. My children were 4 and 6 when I got ill and I really had nothing to offer them for a couple of years. I simply wasn't there. Mind or body. I was just circling the drain. One of my many symptoms was loss of cognitive function. I remembered nothing and often would mid sentence lost track. I almost gave up talking altogether as I was becoming more stupid by the day. It comes back. The brain can heal itself. Don't think the worst. You will get better. Tamara > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > results.> > >> >>Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

[Guest guest]

Dear Marie,Yes, thank you. I'd love to get the link. I try to keep a list of sources for possible future treatments to explore. sometimes I don't act on them for a long time, but then decide to try and it's good to know how and where to get it.Be well,LénaDear Lean, I was prescribed to me one year ago when I got my stem cell implantation by Dct Sapse . it was at this time 5cc every other day .Since then he has been answering to me on the telephone each time I needed agood man .I understood that geronvital act as an antogonist of the stress hormone. I do it intramuscular myself. In fact I do it subcutaneously as it is not painfull and more easy.But this not accademic. I used ot be a nurse so obviously it helped me . yes there are pills.if you wish I send you the link where I ordered it in Roumania . here in USA you can get it too I would try first the europeen link as it is cheaper providingthey had no problems with the bordure. I came with a reserve for the year so i do not know how it goes throught the bordure they will answer you by email .Take care Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 9:04:00 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note Dear Marie,You obviously are in good care. I'm relieved to hear that knowledgeable people are advising you. Gerovital sounds wonderful; especially as it helped you with your paralysis; that's fantastic!I'll definitely study it further. You mention taking 3cc. Does that mean that you take it as an injection? Further on, you mention pills. I guess I'll google it some more. So glad it's helping you!Be well,LénaDear Lena, Thank you for your link, and thank you very much for your concern.They do not say how much the self medicated person took to get a kydney failure. May be they wanted to return the clock too fast. He may have gone out of the security envelopp to my opinion . I have been taking the regular protocol of 5cc every other day with no stop even thought the protocol ask for one month on, and one month off. because it is for the paralysis . if I stopp paralysis comes back.after one year, I had to lower the dosage as it was accelerating my heart . I take now 3cc every 3 days.This has been prescribed to me by the assistant of the Dct Aslan ( inventor): Dct Sapse now 85 years old or more . He told me at this time to decrease it by half , then to adjust by myself according to how I was feeling. The pills are at a low dosage with no prescrition needed. Meanse they are harmeless except for allergic poeples who have to be carefull with everything including food. it is true that it makes you younger even thought I could not care less: I look 10 years youger than before I began . The antidepressant effect i feel it within 15 minutes.It really help some time a lot sometime a little.Nothing else has helped me for depression than that. Thank you again for your thougtMarie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:54:39 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note Hi Marie,I googled Gerovital and found this site which might be good to check out.http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/52gerovital.php#1 I don't know what form of the drug you use, but it sounds like self-medicating with it could make problems. Like most Lymies, I self-treat all the time, mostly with success, but I don't want to create any more problems that the ones I already have.Be well,LénaI talk in the desert each time I talk about gerovital. becuase I am the only one to know it on the forum .it lift the depression very well and has so many other excelent effects: antiinfectious regenerative detoxification gives energy.cost very little and ti exsit in pill so you do no tneed to inject it if you prefere. Very powerful. MarieTo: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:14:40 PMSubject: Re: OT - depression Hi Debra, I think its super important to take whatever steps necessary for you to feel well. I know how hard it is to be a parent when you are sick and/or depressed. My children were 4 and 6 when I got ill and I really had nothing to offer them for a couple of years. I simply wasn't there. Mind or body. I was just circling the drain. One of my many symptoms was loss of cognitive function. I remembered nothing and often would mid sentence lost track. I almost gave up talking altogether as I was becoming more stupid by the day. It comes back. The brain can heal itself. Don't think the worst. You will get better. Tamara > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > results.> > >> >>Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

[Guest guest]

Dear Lena,

I am not sure i sent you this already or not

Call them or send them a email to know if they are used to send it to USA as sometime the USA bordure keep medecine..

if they are used to it is cheaper than in USA.

Look at the all website there are often sales.

if there is not I will send you a advertisment they sent me with a discount as i had rodered all a year at once it old but it may still be working.

Marie

www.gerovitalgh3-antiaging.com

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:26:01 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Dear Marie,

Yes, thank you. I'd love to get the link. I try to keep a list of sources for possible future treatments to explore. sometimes I don't act on them for a long time, but then decide to try and it's good to know how and where to get it.

Be well,

Léna

Dear Lean,

I was prescribed to me one year ago when I got my stem cell implantation by Dct Sapse . it was at this time 5cc every other day .

Since then he has been answering to me on the telephone each time I needed agood man .

I understood that geronvital act as an antogonist of the stress hormone. I do it intramuscular myself. In fact I do it subcutaneously as it is not painfull and more easy.

But this not accademic. I used ot be a nurse so obviously it helped me .

yes there are pills.

if you wish I send you the link where I ordered it in Roumania . here in USA you can get it too I would try first the europeen link as it is cheaper providing

they had no problems with the bordure. I came with a reserve for the year so i do not know how it goes throught the bordure they will answer you by email .

Take care Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 9:04:00 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Dear Marie,

You obviously are in good care. I'm relieved to hear that knowledgeable people are advising you. Gerovital sounds wonderful; especially as it helped you with your paralysis; that's fantastic!

I'll definitely study it further. You mention taking 3cc. Does that mean that you take it as an injection? Further on, you mention pills. I guess I'll google it some more. So glad it's helping you!

Be well,

Léna

Dear Lena,

Thank you for your link, and thank you very much for your concern.

They do not say how much the self medicated person took to get a kydney failure. May be they wanted to return the clock too fast. He may have gone out of the security envelopp to my opinion .

I have been taking the regular protocol of 5cc every other day with no stop even thought the protocol ask for one month on, and one month off. because it is for the paralysis . if I stopp paralysis comes back.

after one year, I had to lower the dosage as it was accelerating my heart . I take now 3cc every 3 days.This has been prescribed to me by the assistant of the Dct Aslan ( inventor): Dct Sapse now 85 years old or more . He told me at this time to decrease it by half , then to adjust by myself according to how I was feeling.

The pills are at a low dosage with no prescrition needed. Meanse they are harmeless except for allergic poeples who have to be carefull with everything including food.

it is true that it makes you younger even thought I could not care less: I look 10 years youger than before I began . The antidepressant effect i feel it within 15 minutes.

It really help some time a lot sometime a little.

Nothing else has helped me for depression than that.

Thank you again for your thougt

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:54:39 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Hi Marie,

I googled Gerovital and found this site which might be good to check out.

http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/52gerovital.php#1

I don't know what form of the drug you use, but it sounds like self-medicating with it could make problems. Like most Lymies, I self-treat all the time, mostly with success, but I don't want to create any more problems that the ones I already have.

Be well,

Léna

I talk in the desert each time I talk about gerovital. becuase I am the only one to know it on the forum .

it lift the depression very well and has so many other excelent effects: antiinfectious regenerative detoxification gives energy.

cost very little and ti exsit in pill so you do no tneed to inject it if you prefere.

Very powerful.

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:14:40 PMSubject: Re: OT - depression

Hi Debra, I think its super important to take whatever steps necessary for you to feel well. I know how hard it is to be a parent when you are sick and/or depressed. My children were 4 and 6 when I got ill and I really had nothing to offer them for a couple of years. I simply wasn't there. Mind or body. I was just circling the drain. One of my many symptoms was loss of cognitive function. I remembered nothing and often would mid sentence lost track. I almost gave up talking altogether as I was becoming more stupid by the day. It comes back. The brain can heal itself. Don't think the worst. You will get better. Tamara > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > results.> > >> >>Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

[Guest guest]

Dear Lena,

I am not sure i sent you this already or not

Call them or send them a email to know if they are used to send it to USA as sometime the USA bordure keep medecine..

if they are used to it is cheaper than in USA.

Look at the all website there are often sales.

if there is not I will send you a advertisment they sent me with a discount as i had rodered all a year at once it old but it may still be working.

Marie

www.gerovitalgh3-antiaging.com

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:26:01 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Dear Marie,

Yes, thank you. I'd love to get the link. I try to keep a list of sources for possible future treatments to explore. sometimes I don't act on them for a long time, but then decide to try and it's good to know how and where to get it.

Be well,

Léna

Dear Lean,

I was prescribed to me one year ago when I got my stem cell implantation by Dct Sapse . it was at this time 5cc every other day .

Since then he has been answering to me on the telephone each time I needed agood man .

I understood that geronvital act as an antogonist of the stress hormone. I do it intramuscular myself. In fact I do it subcutaneously as it is not painfull and more easy.

But this not accademic. I used ot be a nurse so obviously it helped me .

yes there are pills.

if you wish I send you the link where I ordered it in Roumania . here in USA you can get it too I would try first the europeen link as it is cheaper providing

they had no problems with the bordure. I came with a reserve for the year so i do not know how it goes throught the bordure they will answer you by email .

Take care Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 9:04:00 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Dear Marie,

You obviously are in good care. I'm relieved to hear that knowledgeable people are advising you. Gerovital sounds wonderful; especially as it helped you with your paralysis; that's fantastic!

I'll definitely study it further. You mention taking 3cc. Does that mean that you take it as an injection? Further on, you mention pills. I guess I'll google it some more. So glad it's helping you!

Be well,

Léna

Dear Lena,

Thank you for your link, and thank you very much for your concern.

They do not say how much the self medicated person took to get a kydney failure. May be they wanted to return the clock too fast. He may have gone out of the security envelopp to my opinion .

I have been taking the regular protocol of 5cc every other day with no stop even thought the protocol ask for one month on, and one month off. because it is for the paralysis . if I stopp paralysis comes back.

after one year, I had to lower the dosage as it was accelerating my heart . I take now 3cc every 3 days.This has been prescribed to me by the assistant of the Dct Aslan ( inventor): Dct Sapse now 85 years old or more . He told me at this time to decrease it by half , then to adjust by myself according to how I was feeling.

The pills are at a low dosage with no prescrition needed. Meanse they are harmeless except for allergic poeples who have to be carefull with everything including food.

it is true that it makes you younger even thought I could not care less: I look 10 years youger than before I began . The antidepressant effect i feel it within 15 minutes.

It really help some time a lot sometime a little.

Nothing else has helped me for depression than that.

Thank you again for your thougt

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:54:39 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Hi Marie,

I googled Gerovital and found this site which might be good to check out.

http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/52gerovital.php#1

I don't know what form of the drug you use, but it sounds like self-medicating with it could make problems. Like most Lymies, I self-treat all the time, mostly with success, but I don't want to create any more problems that the ones I already have.

Be well,

Léna

I talk in the desert each time I talk about gerovital. becuase I am the only one to know it on the forum .

it lift the depression very well and has so many other excelent effects: antiinfectious regenerative detoxification gives energy.

cost very little and ti exsit in pill so you do no tneed to inject it if you prefere.

Very powerful.

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:14:40 PMSubject: Re: OT - depression

Hi Debra, I think its super important to take whatever steps necessary for you to feel well. I know how hard it is to be a parent when you are sick and/or depressed. My children were 4 and 6 when I got ill and I really had nothing to offer them for a couple of years. I simply wasn't there. Mind or body. I was just circling the drain. One of my many symptoms was loss of cognitive function. I remembered nothing and often would mid sentence lost track. I almost gave up talking altogether as I was becoming more stupid by the day. It comes back. The brain can heal itself. Don't think the worst. You will get better. Tamara > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > results.> > >> >>Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

[Guest guest]

Dear Lena,

I am not sure i sent you this already or not

Call them or send them a email to know if they are used to send it to USA as sometime the USA bordure keep medecine..

if they are used to it is cheaper than in USA.

Look at the all website there are often sales.

if there is not I will send you a advertisment they sent me with a discount as i had rodered all a year at once it old but it may still be working.

Marie

www.gerovitalgh3-antiaging.com

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:26:01 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Dear Marie,

Yes, thank you. I'd love to get the link. I try to keep a list of sources for possible future treatments to explore. sometimes I don't act on them for a long time, but then decide to try and it's good to know how and where to get it.

Be well,

Léna

Dear Lean,

I was prescribed to me one year ago when I got my stem cell implantation by Dct Sapse . it was at this time 5cc every other day .

Since then he has been answering to me on the telephone each time I needed agood man .

I understood that geronvital act as an antogonist of the stress hormone. I do it intramuscular myself. In fact I do it subcutaneously as it is not painfull and more easy.

But this not accademic. I used ot be a nurse so obviously it helped me .

yes there are pills.

if you wish I send you the link where I ordered it in Roumania . here in USA you can get it too I would try first the europeen link as it is cheaper providing

they had no problems with the bordure. I came with a reserve for the year so i do not know how it goes throught the bordure they will answer you by email .

Take care Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 9:04:00 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Dear Marie,

You obviously are in good care. I'm relieved to hear that knowledgeable people are advising you. Gerovital sounds wonderful; especially as it helped you with your paralysis; that's fantastic!

I'll definitely study it further. You mention taking 3cc. Does that mean that you take it as an injection? Further on, you mention pills. I guess I'll google it some more. So glad it's helping you!

Be well,

Léna

Dear Lena,

Thank you for your link, and thank you very much for your concern.

They do not say how much the self medicated person took to get a kydney failure. May be they wanted to return the clock too fast. He may have gone out of the security envelopp to my opinion .

I have been taking the regular protocol of 5cc every other day with no stop even thought the protocol ask for one month on, and one month off. because it is for the paralysis . if I stopp paralysis comes back.

after one year, I had to lower the dosage as it was accelerating my heart . I take now 3cc every 3 days.This has been prescribed to me by the assistant of the Dct Aslan ( inventor): Dct Sapse now 85 years old or more . He told me at this time to decrease it by half , then to adjust by myself according to how I was feeling.

The pills are at a low dosage with no prescrition needed. Meanse they are harmeless except for allergic poeples who have to be carefull with everything including food.

it is true that it makes you younger even thought I could not care less: I look 10 years youger than before I began . The antidepressant effect i feel it within 15 minutes.

It really help some time a lot sometime a little.

Nothing else has helped me for depression than that.

Thank you again for your thougt

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:54:39 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Hi Marie,

I googled Gerovital and found this site which might be good to check out.

http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/52gerovital.php#1

I don't know what form of the drug you use, but it sounds like self-medicating with it could make problems. Like most Lymies, I self-treat all the time, mostly with success, but I don't want to create any more problems that the ones I already have.

Be well,

Léna

I talk in the desert each time I talk about gerovital. becuase I am the only one to know it on the forum .

it lift the depression very well and has so many other excelent effects: antiinfectious regenerative detoxification gives energy.

cost very little and ti exsit in pill so you do no tneed to inject it if you prefere.

Very powerful.

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 5:14:40 PMSubject: Re: OT - depression

Hi Debra, I think its super important to take whatever steps necessary for you to feel well. I know how hard it is to be a parent when you are sick and/or depressed. My children were 4 and 6 when I got ill and I really had nothing to offer them for a couple of years. I simply wasn't there. Mind or body. I was just circling the drain. One of my many symptoms was loss of cognitive function. I remembered nothing and often would mid sentence lost track. I almost gave up talking altogether as I was becoming more stupid by the day. It comes back. The brain can heal itself. Don't think the worst. You will get better. Tamara > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > results.> > >> >>Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

[Guest guest]

Marie.. are u aware that there is a relationship betweem kidney and heart? so

accelalrating heart would mean that the kidney is affected? I also looked at the

website and felt uncomfortable because they did not make the label available to

see.

Olga

> > > > 

> > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping 

> > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside 

> > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or 

> > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried 

> > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good 

> > > > results.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

>

[Guest guest]

Marie.. are u aware that there is a relationship betweem kidney and heart? so

accelalrating heart would mean that the kidney is affected? I also looked at the

website and felt uncomfortable because they did not make the label available to

see.

Olga

> > > > 

> > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping 

> > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside 

> > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or 

> > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried 

> > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good 

> > > > results.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

>

[Guest guest]

Marie.. are u aware that there is a relationship betweem kidney and heart? so

accelalrating heart would mean that the kidney is affected? I also looked at the

website and felt uncomfortable because they did not make the label available to

see.

Olga

> > > > 

> > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping 

> > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside 

> > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or 

> > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried 

> > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good 

> > > > results.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> Will ther ebe anybody to try one day

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Lena for your concern.

I know. I was a nurse specialised in hemodialysis. The only connection I see between kidneys and heart is teh blood pressure as if too hight can dilatate the little vessals in th kidneys and then distroy them ,

I do not know anything with quick heart beating.

For my kidneys when I feel them I take action. Like when I had rocephine I began to feel them on eweek later I stopped taking some riscq. Now I feell it also a little bit may be because of th esilve

as I take a lot I have reduced a lot the gerovital to a pill per day . And the radiac hopefully will allow me to take less silver orally. and I drink a lot .

Thank you again for yoru concern Lena

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 10:49:27 PMSubject: Re: gerovital: a cautionary note

Marie.. are u aware that there is a relationship betweem kidney and heart? so accelalrating heart would mean that the kidney is affected? I also looked at the website and felt uncomfortable because they did not make the label available to see. Olga> > > > > > > > I have tried L-tryphophen for my depression but it is not helping > > > > enough. My lyme is really bad as my entire body is tremoring inside > > > > and its driving me crazy. Has anyone tried lithium aspartate or > > > > lithium orotte for their depression? Swansons health products carried > > > > a lithium product but wanted to see if anyone is using it with good > > > > results.> > >

>> > >> >> > Will ther ebe anybody to try one day>