Re: New and looking at buying

[Guest guest]

Hi Dale,

I would steer clear of any of the DP products if you want my humble opinion.

The coil machine is the device that most of the folks who have Lyme are finding

success with. It is also cheaper then the DP100 (See Rosner's book Lyme

and Rife Machines.) I have been coiling now for about a year and a half and

have really reduced my Lyme Load with it. It is not easy, but if you have

patience and staying power, you can get better. I am currently in Mexico as I

have a really good Doctor down here and he just tested my Lyme load. Last June

my Lyme load comprised 15% of my body. The other day this doctor used his

machine to test me and found that I only have 8% now and my only treatment was

the Coil machine and Immune homeopathics and detox. A year ago at Christmas my

load was 30%. I am now dealing with a big Mycoplasma arthritis infection that

he is going to treat with IV homeopathics and stem cells for the Krebs Cycle

which has something to do with Glucose and Energy Metabolism. He is also going

to create a protocol to help my inflammation not sure what it is yet as well as

help for my nervous system. Anyway, I would proceed cautiously with information

that you receive in the other group. Some of the folks who are recommending the

DP 100 are salesmen or are somehow affiliated with the builder perhaps were

given free machines to endorse the product. We do not allow salesmen on this

list and therefore the information here is information from actual users without

bias and a profit motive. I would read Jim's blog on the different machines and

builders that he recommends. Jim, our moderator has Lyme himself and he is well

familiar with all of the treatment protocols. the other group moderator

does not have Lyme, so information that you get from him is based on second hand

information. His wife has Lyme and is using a lot of colloidal silver along

with the DP 100, so it is hard to tell whether the colloidal silver is encysting

the disease causing symptom relief or if the DP 100 actually has benefits. The

coil machine has been tested free of herbs or antibiotic therapies that might

skew the results and unlike the DP 100 has been around many years and withstood

the test of time. Several people have completely recovered using the coil

machine. I personally think it is advantageous to have two rife machines. I

have a GB4000 handheld machine that I can travel with and the coil. I use both

of them because the GB can do things that the coil machine can't and visa versa.

If you buy a coil from Stolar and a GB 4000 from a man that I learned about

on royalrife.com who sells them for close to cost, you can have 2 machines for

less then the price of the DP100. I hope this helps and good luck in your

recovery.

>

> This is my first post and I am looking for help, suggestions and comments.

Short history, I first went to my doctor in Nov. 1999 with GI upset (nausea and

pressure), low grade fever, exhaustion, achiness, and generally feeling like

crap. I mentioned Lyme but after many tests over the years, going on

disability, lots of pain was diagnosed with PLS, a form of ALS. After many

treatments that did not go well, given a year to live, w/c bound, hardly able to

speak, constant cramps and terrible GI, I was diagnosed with Lyme induced PLS in

Nov. 2005. Confronting my primary doctor, he admitted he and my neurologist,

did not believe in " all that Lyme stuff " and had lied to me about the supposedly

4 Lyme tests that I had requested over the years� (FYI, CO Has Tort reform

and I couldn't sue due to time passing� long story...). I found a Lyme Dr.

(he is well known, one diagnosed with ALS and finally figured out he had Lyme),

here in Col. Springs, who started me on Doxy and a plan (IV included) with

fantastic results. He predicted I would be out of the w/c in 6 months. Then

strange symptoms started, terrible Herxes with horrid diarrhea, joint pain that

I could hardly move, and just feeling terrible. I had to be pulled from

treatment in Aug 06�

>

> Fast forward to May 09 and started Doxy at 200 mg./day but have gotten worse.

Tolerate it, but have horrid Herxs (flu-like, diarrhea, GI being ripped apart,

nausea, last 5 days) every two weeks. Notice immediate improvement in nerve

pain and less cramping at night! My Oxycodone usage goes from an average of 330

mg/day to 240. Then a reaction to a medication and forced off Doxy, in Aug.

start over at 50 mg./2X day. Bad Herxs start at two weeks again like clock

work. Slowly increase until I am at my current level of 250/day (150 AM/100

PM), Oxy down to about 160mg/day but GI problems and muscle

ache/stiffness/cramping now main pain and Herxs at two weeks but were getting

milder. This is the longest I have been on antibiotics - 6 months but have not

gotten to the 300/day min. they recommend�

>

> A strange thing happens with most things that helps with a symptom, it may

help drastically for 3 days but then the symptom returns, if I am lucky it is at

least lessened but usually not by much??? A prime example is magnesium, I read

that it could help cramping, especially at night. I tried it and for 3 nights,

no cramps! By weeks end, they were back, a little better but still bad.

>

> I have three general body categories that affect my lower body (my diaphragm

down), the most common I call Ridged. Which means my muscles stay in their last

use, I move my leg and the muscles do not relax. The next is Locked, all

muscles just pull as hard as they can but don't cramp (like making a fist as

tight as you can and hold it all day), as you can imagine, becomes painful and

exhausting. These two interchange on some days and Oxy, nor anything helps

much. Then is Relaxed, where the muscles semi relax, the best I do. These

don't happen often and usually only for only part of a day. I should add I have

hyper reactive nerves, not only startle reflex but any stimulation is broadcast

to all nerves. Light breeze, chills me a little and my whole body locks up or

movement, like typing, slowly tightens my lower body...

>

> I stopped in Aug. for my daughters wedding and dread going back on Doxy but I

am getting really bad again. So Rife...

>

> It is very frustrating for me, I read 2 or 3 pages and I am exhausted... This

from an ex-consultant for HP, who read crash dumps for a living... I would love

to read the books but I would be dead before I got through the first one.

Typing this took me 3 days...

>

> Cost and room has me looking at the DP200 or 300. I am on another list and

someone pointed me here. I would like to stay under a $1000...

>

> Thanks,

> Dale C. Rutschow

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dale,

I would steer clear of any of the DP products if you want my humble opinion.

The coil machine is the device that most of the folks who have Lyme are finding

success with. It is also cheaper then the DP100 (See Rosner's book Lyme

and Rife Machines.) I have been coiling now for about a year and a half and

have really reduced my Lyme Load with it. It is not easy, but if you have

patience and staying power, you can get better. I am currently in Mexico as I

have a really good Doctor down here and he just tested my Lyme load. Last June

my Lyme load comprised 15% of my body. The other day this doctor used his

machine to test me and found that I only have 8% now and my only treatment was

the Coil machine and Immune homeopathics and detox. A year ago at Christmas my

load was 30%. I am now dealing with a big Mycoplasma arthritis infection that

he is going to treat with IV homeopathics and stem cells for the Krebs Cycle

which has something to do with Glucose and Energy Metabolism. He is also going

to create a protocol to help my inflammation not sure what it is yet as well as

help for my nervous system. Anyway, I would proceed cautiously with information

that you receive in the other group. Some of the folks who are recommending the

DP 100 are salesmen or are somehow affiliated with the builder perhaps were

given free machines to endorse the product. We do not allow salesmen on this

list and therefore the information here is information from actual users without

bias and a profit motive. I would read Jim's blog on the different machines and

builders that he recommends. Jim, our moderator has Lyme himself and he is well

familiar with all of the treatment protocols. the other group moderator

does not have Lyme, so information that you get from him is based on second hand

information. His wife has Lyme and is using a lot of colloidal silver along

with the DP 100, so it is hard to tell whether the colloidal silver is encysting

the disease causing symptom relief or if the DP 100 actually has benefits. The

coil machine has been tested free of herbs or antibiotic therapies that might

skew the results and unlike the DP 100 has been around many years and withstood

the test of time. Several people have completely recovered using the coil

machine. I personally think it is advantageous to have two rife machines. I

have a GB4000 handheld machine that I can travel with and the coil. I use both

of them because the GB can do things that the coil machine can't and visa versa.

If you buy a coil from Stolar and a GB 4000 from a man that I learned about

on royalrife.com who sells them for close to cost, you can have 2 machines for

less then the price of the DP100. I hope this helps and good luck in your

recovery.

>

> This is my first post and I am looking for help, suggestions and comments.

Short history, I first went to my doctor in Nov. 1999 with GI upset (nausea and

pressure), low grade fever, exhaustion, achiness, and generally feeling like

crap. I mentioned Lyme but after many tests over the years, going on

disability, lots of pain was diagnosed with PLS, a form of ALS. After many

treatments that did not go well, given a year to live, w/c bound, hardly able to

speak, constant cramps and terrible GI, I was diagnosed with Lyme induced PLS in

Nov. 2005. Confronting my primary doctor, he admitted he and my neurologist,

did not believe in " all that Lyme stuff " and had lied to me about the supposedly

4 Lyme tests that I had requested over the years� (FYI, CO Has Tort reform

and I couldn't sue due to time passing� long story...). I found a Lyme Dr.

(he is well known, one diagnosed with ALS and finally figured out he had Lyme),

here in Col. Springs, who started me on Doxy and a plan (IV included) with

fantastic results. He predicted I would be out of the w/c in 6 months. Then

strange symptoms started, terrible Herxes with horrid diarrhea, joint pain that

I could hardly move, and just feeling terrible. I had to be pulled from

treatment in Aug 06�

>

> Fast forward to May 09 and started Doxy at 200 mg./day but have gotten worse.

Tolerate it, but have horrid Herxs (flu-like, diarrhea, GI being ripped apart,

nausea, last 5 days) every two weeks. Notice immediate improvement in nerve

pain and less cramping at night! My Oxycodone usage goes from an average of 330

mg/day to 240. Then a reaction to a medication and forced off Doxy, in Aug.

start over at 50 mg./2X day. Bad Herxs start at two weeks again like clock

work. Slowly increase until I am at my current level of 250/day (150 AM/100

PM), Oxy down to about 160mg/day but GI problems and muscle

ache/stiffness/cramping now main pain and Herxs at two weeks but were getting

milder. This is the longest I have been on antibiotics - 6 months but have not

gotten to the 300/day min. they recommend�

>

> A strange thing happens with most things that helps with a symptom, it may

help drastically for 3 days but then the symptom returns, if I am lucky it is at

least lessened but usually not by much??? A prime example is magnesium, I read

that it could help cramping, especially at night. I tried it and for 3 nights,

no cramps! By weeks end, they were back, a little better but still bad.

>

> I have three general body categories that affect my lower body (my diaphragm

down), the most common I call Ridged. Which means my muscles stay in their last

use, I move my leg and the muscles do not relax. The next is Locked, all

muscles just pull as hard as they can but don't cramp (like making a fist as

tight as you can and hold it all day), as you can imagine, becomes painful and

exhausting. These two interchange on some days and Oxy, nor anything helps

much. Then is Relaxed, where the muscles semi relax, the best I do. These

don't happen often and usually only for only part of a day. I should add I have

hyper reactive nerves, not only startle reflex but any stimulation is broadcast

to all nerves. Light breeze, chills me a little and my whole body locks up or

movement, like typing, slowly tightens my lower body...

>

> I stopped in Aug. for my daughters wedding and dread going back on Doxy but I

am getting really bad again. So Rife...

>

> It is very frustrating for me, I read 2 or 3 pages and I am exhausted... This

from an ex-consultant for HP, who read crash dumps for a living... I would love

to read the books but I would be dead before I got through the first one.

Typing this took me 3 days...

>

> Cost and room has me looking at the DP200 or 300. I am on another list and

someone pointed me here. I would like to stay under a $1000...

>

> Thanks,

> Dale C. Rutschow

>

[Guest guest]

I had results for general health with the EMEM but for the neurological part the coil was the choice. Looks like it si more able to penetrate the neruone and th ebone tha tprotect it .

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Fri, December 24, 2010 4:40:10 PMSubject: Re: New and looking at buying

Hi Dale,I would steer clear of any of the DP products if you want my humble opinion. The coil machine is the device that most of the folks who have Lyme are finding success with. It is also cheaper then the DP100 (See Rosner's book Lyme and Rife Machines.) I have been coiling now for about a year and a half and have really reduced my Lyme Load with it. It is not easy, but if you have patience and staying power, you can get better. I am currently in Mexico as I have a really good Doctor down here and he just tested my Lyme load. Last June my Lyme load comprised 15% of my body. The other day this doctor used his machine to test me and found that I only have 8% now and my only treatment was the Coil machine and Immune homeopathics and detox. A year ago at Christmas my load was 30%. I am now dealing with a big Mycoplasma arthritis infection that he is going to treat with IV homeopathics and stem cells for the Krebs Cycle which has something

to do with Glucose and Energy Metabolism. He is also going to create a protocol to help my inflammation not sure what it is yet as well as help for my nervous system. Anyway, I would proceed cautiously with information that you receive in the other group. Some of the folks who are recommending the DP 100 are salesmen or are somehow affiliated with the builder perhaps were given free machines to endorse the product. We do not allow salesmen on this list and therefore the information here is information from actual users without bias and a profit motive. I would read Jim's blog on the different machines and builders that he recommends. Jim, our moderator has Lyme himself and he is well familiar with all of the treatment protocols. the other group moderator does not have Lyme, so information that you get from him is based on second hand information. His wife has Lyme and is using a lot of colloidal silver along with the DP 100, so it is hard to tell

whether the colloidal silver is encysting the disease causing symptom relief or if the DP 100 actually has benefits. The coil machine has been tested free of herbs or antibiotic therapies that might skew the results and unlike the DP 100 has been around many years and withstood the test of time. Several people have completely recovered using the coil machine. I personally think it is advantageous to have two rife machines. I have a GB4000 handheld machine that I can travel with and the coil. I use both of them because the GB can do things that the coil machine can't and visa versa. If you buy a coil from Stolar and a GB 4000 from a man that I learned about on royalrife.com who sells them for close to cost, you can have 2 machines for less then the price of the DP100. I hope this helps and good luck in your recovery.>> This is my first post and I am looking for help, suggestions and comments. Short history, I first went to my doctor in Nov. 1999 with GI upset (nausea and pressure), low grade fever, exhaustion, achiness, and generally feeling like crap. I mentioned Lyme but after many tests over the years, going on disability, lots of pain was diagnosed with PLS, a form of ALS. After many treatments that did not go well, given a year to live, w/c bound, hardly able to speak, constant cramps and terrible GI, I was diagnosed with Lyme induced PLS in Nov. 2005. Confronting my primary doctor, he admitted he and my neurologist, did not believe in "all that Lyme stuff" and had lied to me about the supposedly 4 Lyme tests that I had requested over the years� (FYI, CO Has Tort reform and I couldn't sue due to

time passing� long story...). I found a Lyme Dr. (he is well known, one diagnosed with ALS and finally figured out he had Lyme), here in Col. Springs, who started me on Doxy and a plan (IV included) with fantastic results. He predicted I would be out of the w/c in 6 months. Then strange symptoms started, terrible Herxes with horrid diarrhea, joint pain that I could hardly move, and just feeling terrible. I had to be pulled from treatment in Aug 06�> > Fast forward to May 09 and started Doxy at 200 mg./day but have gotten worse. Tolerate it, but have horrid Herxs (flu-like, diarrhea, GI being ripped apart, nausea, last 5 days) every two weeks. Notice immediate improvement in nerve pain and less cramping at night! My Oxycodone usage goes from an average of 330 mg/day to 240. Then a reaction to a medication and forced off Doxy, in Aug. start over at 50 mg./2X day. Bad Herxs start at two weeks again like clock work. Slowly increase

until I am at my current level of 250/day (150 AM/100 PM), Oxy down to about 160mg/day but GI problems and muscle ache/stiffness/cramping now main pain and Herxs at two weeks but were getting milder. This is the longest I have been on antibiotics - 6 months but have not gotten to the 300/day min. they recommend�> > A strange thing happens with most things that helps with a symptom, it may help drastically for 3 days but then the symptom returns, if I am lucky it is at least lessened but usually not by much??? A prime example is magnesium, I read that it could help cramping, especially at night. I tried it and for 3 nights, no cramps! By weeks end, they were back, a little better but still bad. > > I have three general body categories that affect my lower body (my diaphragm down), the most common I call Ridged. Which means my muscles stay in their last use, I move my leg and the muscles do not relax. The next is Locked,

all muscles just pull as hard as they can but don't cramp (like making a fist as tight as you can and hold it all day), as you can imagine, becomes painful and exhausting. These two interchange on some days and Oxy, nor anything helps much. Then is Relaxed, where the muscles semi relax, the best I do. These don't happen often and usually only for only part of a day. I should add I have hyper reactive nerves, not only startle reflex but any stimulation is broadcast to all nerves. Light breeze, chills me a little and my whole body locks up or movement, like typing, slowly tightens my lower body... > > I stopped in Aug. for my daughters wedding and dread going back on Doxy but I am getting really bad again. So Rife...> > It is very frustrating for me, I read 2 or 3 pages and I am exhausted... This from an ex-consultant for HP, who read crash dumps for a living... I would love to read the books but I would be dead before I got

through the first one. Typing this took me 3 days...> > Cost and room has me looking at the DP200 or 300. I am on another list and someone pointed me here. I would like to stay under a $1000... > > Thanks,> Dale C. Rutschow>

[Guest guest]

I had results for general health with the EMEM but for the neurological part the coil was the choice. Looks like it si more able to penetrate the neruone and th ebone tha tprotect it .

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Fri, December 24, 2010 4:40:10 PMSubject: Re: New and looking at buying

Hi Dale,I would steer clear of any of the DP products if you want my humble opinion. The coil machine is the device that most of the folks who have Lyme are finding success with. It is also cheaper then the DP100 (See Rosner's book Lyme and Rife Machines.) I have been coiling now for about a year and a half and have really reduced my Lyme Load with it. It is not easy, but if you have patience and staying power, you can get better. I am currently in Mexico as I have a really good Doctor down here and he just tested my Lyme load. Last June my Lyme load comprised 15% of my body. The other day this doctor used his machine to test me and found that I only have 8% now and my only treatment was the Coil machine and Immune homeopathics and detox. A year ago at Christmas my load was 30%. I am now dealing with a big Mycoplasma arthritis infection that he is going to treat with IV homeopathics and stem cells for the Krebs Cycle which has something

to do with Glucose and Energy Metabolism. He is also going to create a protocol to help my inflammation not sure what it is yet as well as help for my nervous system. Anyway, I would proceed cautiously with information that you receive in the other group. Some of the folks who are recommending the DP 100 are salesmen or are somehow affiliated with the builder perhaps were given free machines to endorse the product. We do not allow salesmen on this list and therefore the information here is information from actual users without bias and a profit motive. I would read Jim's blog on the different machines and builders that he recommends. Jim, our moderator has Lyme himself and he is well familiar with all of the treatment protocols. the other group moderator does not have Lyme, so information that you get from him is based on second hand information. His wife has Lyme and is using a lot of colloidal silver along with the DP 100, so it is hard to tell

whether the colloidal silver is encysting the disease causing symptom relief or if the DP 100 actually has benefits. The coil machine has been tested free of herbs or antibiotic therapies that might skew the results and unlike the DP 100 has been around many years and withstood the test of time. Several people have completely recovered using the coil machine. I personally think it is advantageous to have two rife machines. I have a GB4000 handheld machine that I can travel with and the coil. I use both of them because the GB can do things that the coil machine can't and visa versa. If you buy a coil from Stolar and a GB 4000 from a man that I learned about on royalrife.com who sells them for close to cost, you can have 2 machines for less then the price of the DP100. I hope this helps and good luck in your recovery.>> This is my first post and I am looking for help, suggestions and comments. Short history, I first went to my doctor in Nov. 1999 with GI upset (nausea and pressure), low grade fever, exhaustion, achiness, and generally feeling like crap. I mentioned Lyme but after many tests over the years, going on disability, lots of pain was diagnosed with PLS, a form of ALS. After many treatments that did not go well, given a year to live, w/c bound, hardly able to speak, constant cramps and terrible GI, I was diagnosed with Lyme induced PLS in Nov. 2005. Confronting my primary doctor, he admitted he and my neurologist, did not believe in "all that Lyme stuff" and had lied to me about the supposedly 4 Lyme tests that I had requested over the years� (FYI, CO Has Tort reform and I couldn't sue due to

time passing� long story...). I found a Lyme Dr. (he is well known, one diagnosed with ALS and finally figured out he had Lyme), here in Col. Springs, who started me on Doxy and a plan (IV included) with fantastic results. He predicted I would be out of the w/c in 6 months. Then strange symptoms started, terrible Herxes with horrid diarrhea, joint pain that I could hardly move, and just feeling terrible. I had to be pulled from treatment in Aug 06�> > Fast forward to May 09 and started Doxy at 200 mg./day but have gotten worse. Tolerate it, but have horrid Herxs (flu-like, diarrhea, GI being ripped apart, nausea, last 5 days) every two weeks. Notice immediate improvement in nerve pain and less cramping at night! My Oxycodone usage goes from an average of 330 mg/day to 240. Then a reaction to a medication and forced off Doxy, in Aug. start over at 50 mg./2X day. Bad Herxs start at two weeks again like clock work. Slowly increase

until I am at my current level of 250/day (150 AM/100 PM), Oxy down to about 160mg/day but GI problems and muscle ache/stiffness/cramping now main pain and Herxs at two weeks but were getting milder. This is the longest I have been on antibiotics - 6 months but have not gotten to the 300/day min. they recommend�> > A strange thing happens with most things that helps with a symptom, it may help drastically for 3 days but then the symptom returns, if I am lucky it is at least lessened but usually not by much??? A prime example is magnesium, I read that it could help cramping, especially at night. I tried it and for 3 nights, no cramps! By weeks end, they were back, a little better but still bad. > > I have three general body categories that affect my lower body (my diaphragm down), the most common I call Ridged. Which means my muscles stay in their last use, I move my leg and the muscles do not relax. The next is Locked,

all muscles just pull as hard as they can but don't cramp (like making a fist as tight as you can and hold it all day), as you can imagine, becomes painful and exhausting. These two interchange on some days and Oxy, nor anything helps much. Then is Relaxed, where the muscles semi relax, the best I do. These don't happen often and usually only for only part of a day. I should add I have hyper reactive nerves, not only startle reflex but any stimulation is broadcast to all nerves. Light breeze, chills me a little and my whole body locks up or movement, like typing, slowly tightens my lower body... > > I stopped in Aug. for my daughters wedding and dread going back on Doxy but I am getting really bad again. So Rife...> > It is very frustrating for me, I read 2 or 3 pages and I am exhausted... This from an ex-consultant for HP, who read crash dumps for a living... I would love to read the books but I would be dead before I got

through the first one. Typing this took me 3 days...> > Cost and room has me looking at the DP200 or 300. I am on another list and someone pointed me here. I would like to stay under a $1000... > > Thanks,> Dale C. Rutschow>

[Guest guest]

Hi DaleOne thing that I dont see in your protocol is any detox program.detoxing will help to reduce the herxes.using things to reduce herxes and cleanse the body and then also using binders to bind the toxins in the gut.I see lots of people using various machines and wont nay say any of them except a few that just dont have enough power.The coil is large and bulky and not easily moved by does a great job .Others have portability like the GB4000.I do see people making good strides with just about every protocol.janhappy holidays to all-- In Lyme_and_Rife , "Dale" wrote:>>

This is my first post and I am looking for help, suggestions and comments. Short history, I first went to my doctor in Nov. 1999 with GI upset (nausea and pressure), low grade fever, exhaustion, achiness, and generally feeling like crap. I mentioned Lyme but after many tests over the years, going on disability, lots of pain was diagnosed with PLS, a form of ALS. After many treatments that did not go well, given a

year to live, w/c bound, hardly able to speak, constant cramps and terrible GI, I was diagnosed with Lyme induced PLS in Nov. 2005. Confronting my primary doctor, he admitted he and my neurologist, did not believe in "all that Lyme stuff" and had lied to me about the supposedly 4 Lyme tests that I had requested over the years� (FYI, CO

Has Tort reform and I couldn't sue due to time passing� long story...). I found a Lyme Dr. (he is well known, one diagnosed with ALS

and finally figured out he had Lyme), here in Col. Springs, who started

me on Doxy and a plan (IV included) with fantastic results. He predicted I would be out of the w/c in 6 months. Then strange symptoms started, terrible Herxes with horrid diarrhea, joint pain that I could hardly move, and just feeling terrible. I had to be pulled from treatment in Aug 06�> > Fast forward to May 09 and started Doxy at 200 mg./day but have gotten worse. Tolerate it, but have horrid Herxs (flu-like, diarrhea, GI being ripped apart, nausea, last 5 days) every two weeks. Notice immediate improvement in nerve pain and less cramping at night! My Oxycodone usage goes from an average of 330 mg/day to 240. Then a reaction to a medication and forced off Doxy, in Aug. start over at 50 mg./2X day. Bad Herxs start at two weeks again like clock work. Slowly increase until I am at my current level of 250/day (150 AM/100 PM), Oxy down to about 160mg/day but GI problems and muscle ache/stiffness/cramping now main pain and Herxs at two weeks but were getting milder. This is the longest I have been on antibiotics - 6 months but have not gotten to the 300/day min. they recommend�> > A strange thing happens with most things that helps with a symptom, it may help drastically for 3 days but

then the symptom returns, if I am lucky it is at least lessened but usually not by much??? A prime example is magnesium, I read that it could help cramping, especially at night. I tried it and for 3 nights, no cramps! By weeks end, they were back, a little better but still bad.

> > I have three general body categories that affect my lower body (my diaphragm down), the most common I call Ridged. Which means my muscles stay in their last use, I move my leg and the muscles do not relax. The next is Locked, all muscles just pull as hard as they

can but don't cramp (like making a fist as tight as you can and hold it

all day), as you can imagine, becomes painful and exhausting. These two interchange on some days and Oxy, nor anything helps much. Then is Relaxed, where the muscles semi relax, the best I do. These don't happen often and usually only for only part of a day. I should add I have hyper reactive nerves, not only startle reflex but any stimulation is broadcast to all nerves. Light breeze, chills me a little and my whole body locks up or movement, like typing, slowly tightens my lower body... > > I stopped in Aug. for my daughters wedding and dread going back on Doxy but I am getting really bad again. So Rife...> >

It is very frustrating for me, I read 2 or 3 pages and I am exhausted... This from an ex-consultant for HP, who read crash dumps for a living... I would love to read the books but I would be dead before I got through the first one. Typing this took me 3 days...> >

Cost and room has me looking at the DP200 or 300. I am on another list and someone pointed me here. I would like to stay under a $1000... > > Thanks,> Dale C. Rutschow> "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jim!

I had read your paper in the files but you added a bunch!

To add one thing, when I first went into my docter of 5 years, I told him I

thought I may have Lyme... He did some tests but like the first one, it took 5

days to get to the lab, don't think it was frozen anymore... Came back negative

but right on it was stampped " sample too old " , he didn't tell me that part...

Questions:

I am a little confused on these codes. I was reading that the best code for

Lyme was 426 (?, I think that was it but not important right now...). What does

this cover? I have read much about Lyme and there are usually 3 types of

infections that are common with Babesia leading the way. But even Babesia has 1

to 2 dozen forms that a tick may carry. Bartonella and Borrelia are the other

" common " infections. So when I read that use this frequency for Lyme, what is

it really going after?

Second, do the machines come with instructions or do I look here? I have read

that with severe Lyme one should start with 5 minutes a day and slowly work up.

Will I see any improvement within 60 days (what some machines allow to try out

the product)?

Getting close to ordering, wish I could afford a coil machine but hopefully will

have some success with what I can afford!

Thanks,

dale

>

> Hi Dale,

>

> Welcome to our group... There are a lot of knowledgeable and compassionate

> folks here that will try to help you by sharing their knowledge with you...

> For sure, we all understand you story, many of us have similar ones!

>

> Sorry to hear about your mis-diagnosis of Lyme, unfortunately it is a common

> theme for many of us.. And shame on your doctors, if they didn't believe in

> chronic Lyme, they should have told you this up front so you could have

> found doctors that did... Are you saying your Lyme tests were positive? If

> so and these doctors kept this from you, I think it is far more than a

> shame, maybe a crime.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Dale,

I am going to try this week the radiac that is cheaper thatn a coil. Someone else got very good results with it . if you can wait un other 2 or 3 days I do it tomorow and willherx then and let you know if it doe sor does not .

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 5:46:53 PMSubject: Re: New and looking at buying

Thanks Jim!I had read your paper in the files but you added a bunch! To add one thing, when I first went into my docter of 5 years, I told him I thought I may have Lyme... He did some tests but like the first one, it took 5 days to get to the lab, don't think it was frozen anymore... Came back negative but right on it was stampped "sample too old", he didn't tell me that part...Questions:I am a little confused on these codes. I was reading that the best code for Lyme was 426 (?, I think that was it but not important right now...). What does this cover? I have read much about Lyme and there are usually 3 types of infections that are common with Babesia leading the way. But even Babesia has 1 to 2 dozen forms that a tick may carry. Bartonella and Borrelia are the other "common" infections. So when I read that use this frequency for Lyme, what is it really going after?Second, do the machines come with instructions or

do I look here? I have read that with severe Lyme one should start with 5 minutes a day and slowly work up. Will I see any improvement within 60 days (what some machines allow to try out the product)?Getting close to ordering, wish I could afford a coil machine but hopefully will have some success with what I can afford!Thanks,dale>> Hi Dale,> > Welcome to our group... There are a lot of knowledgeable and compassionate> folks here that will try to help you by sharing their knowledge with you...> For sure, we all understand you story, many of us have similar ones!> > Sorry to hear about your mis-diagnosis of Lyme, unfortunately it is a common> theme for many of

us.. And shame on your doctors, if they didn't believe in> chronic Lyme, they should have told you this up front so you could have> found doctors that did... Are you saying your Lyme tests were positive? If> so and these doctors kept this from you, I think it is far more than a> shame, maybe a crime.> >

Dear

[Guest guest]

Dear Dale,

I am going to try this week the radiac that is cheaper thatn a coil. Someone else got very good results with it . if you can wait un other 2 or 3 days I do it tomorow and willherx then and let you know if it doe sor does not .

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 5:46:53 PMSubject: Re: New and looking at buying

Thanks Jim!I had read your paper in the files but you added a bunch! To add one thing, when I first went into my docter of 5 years, I told him I thought I may have Lyme... He did some tests but like the first one, it took 5 days to get to the lab, don't think it was frozen anymore... Came back negative but right on it was stampped "sample too old", he didn't tell me that part...Questions:I am a little confused on these codes. I was reading that the best code for Lyme was 426 (?, I think that was it but not important right now...). What does this cover? I have read much about Lyme and there are usually 3 types of infections that are common with Babesia leading the way. But even Babesia has 1 to 2 dozen forms that a tick may carry. Bartonella and Borrelia are the other "common" infections. So when I read that use this frequency for Lyme, what is it really going after?Second, do the machines come with instructions or

do I look here? I have read that with severe Lyme one should start with 5 minutes a day and slowly work up. Will I see any improvement within 60 days (what some machines allow to try out the product)?Getting close to ordering, wish I could afford a coil machine but hopefully will have some success with what I can afford!Thanks,dale>> Hi Dale,> > Welcome to our group... There are a lot of knowledgeable and compassionate> folks here that will try to help you by sharing their knowledge with you...> For sure, we all understand you story, many of us have similar ones!> > Sorry to hear about your mis-diagnosis of Lyme, unfortunately it is a common> theme for many of

us.. And shame on your doctors, if they didn't believe in> chronic Lyme, they should have told you this up front so you could have> found doctors that did... Are you saying your Lyme tests were positive? If> so and these doctors kept this from you, I think it is far more than a> shame, maybe a crime.> >

Dear