Re: My experience with 4S

February 1, 2011

You just made me realize something.My first trigger had nothing to do with eating or the table, but it DOES relate to confinement. My triggers started when I first was bedridden. I've been mostly bedridden (only getting out of bed to go to the bathroom and shower and only leaving the house to go to the doctor) since May. Right around that time is when all of this started. Hmm. Thanks.†.:. Mae .:.†

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I think confinement is a big part of the issue, although I don't know if it would play an active role in the initial formation of 4S...

re: Tara's question- I remember the worst situations being at dinner and in the car. In the car, I couldn't get out (and, being my brother, he delighted in the reaction he could get out of me by cracking his knuckles in the car). At dinner, my parents- well meaning, of course- enforced our presence for "pleasant conversation". Not so pleasant in my experience!

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> > > Heidi,

> > > I originally formed an hypothesis that 4S was often provoked by different situations during family mealtimes. This was proved true by quite a few people I interviewed.

> > > Would you consider telling me a bit about family mealtimes when you were growing up?

> > > With thanks,

> > > Tara

> > > Let your email find you with BlackBerry from Vodafone

> >

>

February 1, 2011

You just made me realize something.My first trigger had nothing to do with eating or the table, but it DOES relate to confinement. My triggers started when I first was bedridden. I've been mostly bedridden (only getting out of bed to go to the bathroom and shower and only leaving the house to go to the doctor) since May. Right around that time is when all of this started. Hmm. Thanks.†.:. Mae .:.†

You have not seen Christ, but still you love him. You cannot see him now, but you believe in him. So you are filled with a joy that cannot be explained, a joy full of glory. And you are receiving the goal of your faith -- the salvation of your souls. -1 1:8-9 (NCV)To: Soundsensitivity From: m.catherine.r@...Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 00:21:16 +0000Subject: Re: My experience with 4S

I think confinement is a big part of the issue, although I don't know if it would play an active role in the initial formation of 4S...

re: Tara's question- I remember the worst situations being at dinner and in the car. In the car, I couldn't get out (and, being my brother, he delighted in the reaction he could get out of me by cracking his knuckles in the car). At dinner, my parents- well meaning, of course- enforced our presence for "pleasant conversation". Not so pleasant in my experience!

> > >

> > > Heidi,

> > > I originally formed an hypothesis that 4S was often provoked by different situations during family mealtimes. This was proved true by quite a few people I interviewed.

> > > Would you consider telling me a bit about family mealtimes when you were growing up?

> > > With thanks,

> > > Tara

> > > Let your email find you with BlackBerry from Vodafone

> >

>

February 1, 2011

For me it was sniffling, that's the first thing I remember that bothered me so

much that I couldn't stand my sister going on (on purpose, I could tell), got

up, got dressed and walked over to my grandparents place. Mind you, I was 11,

and it was 6am, my mom not home yet from late shift.

What's strange is that now my sister makes his young sons blow their noses, and

once I sniffled around her, and she immediately offered a tissue. Maybe she

'caught' it too?

The eating sounds came gradually, later. I remember my mom calling me a pig when

I was like 10, and telling me she couldn't take me anywhere with the noises I

was making, so I became aware of those noises, tried to control mine (apologized

for crunching an apple and still do) and started feeling disgusted at our lunch

table. My grandparents didn't mind their manners (or so I thought) and I was

punished many times for speaking up about it. I felt like crap about being mean

to my grandparents, but couldn't control it.

At this time, we were also living with my mom's boyfriend who was a snobby

bastard and commented on how low-class we were, so I think I subconsciously

tried to negate that and show that I can eat without noises.

These noises determined how I chose a boyfriend, if they passed the eating (and

sniffling) test, the second date was possible. I said no to a man who was in

love with me (after being friends for years) and would have done anything for

me, for the fact that he was eating with all sorts of noises, and it wasn't

something I wanted to confess to or deal with.

I also couldn't stand eating with old aluminum forks and such my grandparents

had, that taste in my mouth was unbearable. To date, I prefer plastic, but I try

to force myself to accept stainless steel, especially in certain settings, like

a cruise ship dining room.

New noises were added to the list gradually (like knuckle noise, keyboard

typing), and I often thought (before I discovered this group and other online

resources) that I must have a brain tumor of some sort that makes me so

sensitive to sounds and smells (hypersensitive to smells too, especially those I

hate).

So yeah, I think some of it is just there, but some of it could possibly be made

conscious by outside influence. I'm just hoping I don't get any more added to

the list, but now that I know what I'm dealing with, I feel I can more

consciously battle against it.

February 1, 2011

For me it was sniffling, that's the first thing I remember that bothered me so

much that I couldn't stand my sister going on (on purpose, I could tell), got

up, got dressed and walked over to my grandparents place. Mind you, I was 11,

and it was 6am, my mom not home yet from late shift.

What's strange is that now my sister makes his young sons blow their noses, and

once I sniffled around her, and she immediately offered a tissue. Maybe she

'caught' it too?

The eating sounds came gradually, later. I remember my mom calling me a pig when

I was like 10, and telling me she couldn't take me anywhere with the noises I

was making, so I became aware of those noises, tried to control mine (apologized

for crunching an apple and still do) and started feeling disgusted at our lunch

table. My grandparents didn't mind their manners (or so I thought) and I was

punished many times for speaking up about it. I felt like crap about being mean

to my grandparents, but couldn't control it.

At this time, we were also living with my mom's boyfriend who was a snobby

bastard and commented on how low-class we were, so I think I subconsciously

tried to negate that and show that I can eat without noises.

These noises determined how I chose a boyfriend, if they passed the eating (and

sniffling) test, the second date was possible. I said no to a man who was in

love with me (after being friends for years) and would have done anything for

me, for the fact that he was eating with all sorts of noises, and it wasn't

something I wanted to confess to or deal with.

I also couldn't stand eating with old aluminum forks and such my grandparents

had, that taste in my mouth was unbearable. To date, I prefer plastic, but I try

to force myself to accept stainless steel, especially in certain settings, like

a cruise ship dining room.

New noises were added to the list gradually (like knuckle noise, keyboard

typing), and I often thought (before I discovered this group and other online

resources) that I must have a brain tumor of some sort that makes me so

sensitive to sounds and smells (hypersensitive to smells too, especially those I

hate).

So yeah, I think some of it is just there, but some of it could possibly be made

conscious by outside influence. I'm just hoping I don't get any more added to

the list, but now that I know what I'm dealing with, I feel I can more

consciously battle against it.

February 2, 2011

Well, of course, all 4S'ers are so highly intelligent that our brains can't handle the size of the matter between our ears!

I just couldn't resist.

I have heard some doctors describe a potential correlation, but have not seen any reasearch.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 2:41:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: My experience with 4S

Does anyone know if there's a correlation between 4S and intelligence?

To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity >Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:33:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: My experience with 4S

This begs the question though: why do we have all these other triggers and why do many if us have non food first triggers? It just seems more likely that the dinner table is the place to most likely bother us the most as we are confined with multiple people engaging in the sounds we hate. Sent from my iPhone

Food can very important for forming social bonds in the animal kingdom and we are primates after all. I can't help but ponder if that might have something to do with a kind of heightened sensitivity at the family dinner table...imho.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 12:24:33 PMSubject: Re: Re: My experience with 4S

Thank you for your input! Hypothese are there to be tested, and All information important.So far you are the first one to directly say to me that it did not start from occurrences at family meals. In my interviews it was it was not necessarily abuse at the dining table. Several women had selective eating/ swallowing/ food dislike problems. Others reacted to repetitive insistence on manners, or "just another bite", or pressure to converse nicely, or even the way a sibling looked at them across the table.So my next question is whether you recall if your brother cracked his knuckles at the table?

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Subject: Re: My experience with 4S

Tara, I realize you were addressing Heidi with this message so I hope you'll excuse my replying I was wondering if in your interviews you'd spoken with anyone whose first trigger was not related to eating? I first started having 4S symptoms triggered by my brother's cracking his knuckles- eating noises came later.>> Heidi,> I originally formed an hypothesis that 4S was often provoked by different situations during family mealtimes. This was proved true by quite a few people I interviewed.> Would you consider telling me a bit about family mealtimes when you were growing

up?> With thanks,> Tara> Let your email find you with BlackBerry from Vodafone

February 2, 2011