Re: Biopein

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At 11:54 AM 1/14/04, you wrote:

> One person I asked

>to try it has had a reaction to it. I personally found if my face is hot,

>say from a recent shower or the weather (it is very hot in Perth at the

>moment, 45C last Sunday) it stings and my face becomes very red. Would love

>to hear from anyone else.

that's not surprising...some of the ingredients are known irritants...

granted, each individual ingredient is used at a very low level in a

finished product.... but, as you said, you can still smell them, so

obviously they are at detectable levels....and essential oils have been

proven to be effective at levels lower than we can detect.

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> Has anyone heard about Biopein?

> Chris

> Rogue River Soaps

http://www.bio-botanica.com/

Some people love it, it swept throught the Aussie natural skincare

makers a few months back.

I couldn't get past the smell of it. Smells like a nasty cross between tea

tree, cinnamon and rosemary and even at a tiny usage rate you cannot

disguise it with anything (others would disagree with me on that point

and say it is suitable for masculine blends, but I thought it was just plain

rank).

Of the four people I know that tested it and talked to about it, three

came back with reports of skin irritations.... not scientific by any means

but certainly shows a trend occuring.

I read a discussion with a chemist about the product and he was very

sceptical about the MSDS and challenge data that was provided, stating

that it was inconclusive.

Maybe someone else on the list can substantiate or refute that

suggestion?

regards,