Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Angie, the Conditioning Emusifier/regular BTMS - how much BTMS is in there? I had assumed 25%, but I am guessing that I have been wrong in my assumptions, and thus using too much BTMS in my conditioner formulations (which would explain the " overconditioning " that has been occurring regularly). Can you explain the % difference of active cationic conditioners? thank you kindly in advance, Barbie Sweet Scents LLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 In a message dated 1/27/04 9:10:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, candles@... writes: > > Angie, the Conditioning Emusifier/regular BTMS - how much BTMS is in > there? I had assumed 25%, but I am guessing that I have been wrong > in my assumptions, and thus using too much BTMS in my conditioner > formulations (which would explain the " overconditioning " that has > been occurring regularly). Can you explain the % difference of > active cationic conditioners? > > thank you kindly in advance, > Barbie > Sweet Scents LLC > Hi Barbie, You are correct in your assumptions! The " regular " BTMS......Incroquat Behenyl TMS........The Herbarie's BTMS-Conditioning Emulsifier is 25% active compared with TMS-50 at 50% active. It sounds like your hair may be begging for a change. Which formula are you using for your conditioner? If you are using a formula with additional conditioners added, such as GuarSilk or EmEster or other emollients, then you may want to switch to a lighter formula. If you are already using a " light " conditioning formula, then you may want to use it for maybe every other shampoo. I personally like to switch back and forth on my shampoo formulas too. It just sort of happens as a result of my experimentation, but I've noticed my hair seems to enjoy the changes A lot depends on hair type too. My hair is a bit below shoulder length and is color treated/highlighted. It's naturally wavy and can tend towards fly-away. I sometimes apply conditioner just to the ends of my hair or the outer portion--but I do tend to use it after each shampoo. My daughter, Amy, has very long, very thick hair. It's not color treated. She uses the same shampoo and conditioner every single day. I use GuarSilk and other conditioners/emollients in both the shampoo and conditioner (Amy's Conditioner in the Formulary)--it's full of conditioners. She has no build up at all on her hair and it's really beautiful and in great shape. My oldest daughter, Kim, has short, baby fine silky hair and requires a completely different shampoo and uses the conditioner once in a blue moon. Tell me more about your hair type, how is it over-conditioned? Which shampoo and conditioner formula you are using? I bet we can figure it out. Angie The Herbarie Natural Source Ingredients for Toiletries & Cosmetics http://www.theherbarie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 In a message dated 1/27/04 9:10:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, candles@... writes: > > Angie, the Conditioning Emusifier/regular BTMS - how much BTMS is in > there? I had assumed 25%, but I am guessing that I have been wrong > in my assumptions, and thus using too much BTMS in my conditioner > formulations (which would explain the " overconditioning " that has > been occurring regularly). Can you explain the % difference of > active cationic conditioners? > > thank you kindly in advance, > Barbie > Sweet Scents LLC > Hi Barbie, You are correct in your assumptions! The " regular " BTMS......Incroquat Behenyl TMS........The Herbarie's BTMS-Conditioning Emulsifier is 25% active compared with TMS-50 at 50% active. It sounds like your hair may be begging for a change. Which formula are you using for your conditioner? If you are using a formula with additional conditioners added, such as GuarSilk or EmEster or other emollients, then you may want to switch to a lighter formula. If you are already using a " light " conditioning formula, then you may want to use it for maybe every other shampoo. I personally like to switch back and forth on my shampoo formulas too. It just sort of happens as a result of my experimentation, but I've noticed my hair seems to enjoy the changes A lot depends on hair type too. My hair is a bit below shoulder length and is color treated/highlighted. It's naturally wavy and can tend towards fly-away. I sometimes apply conditioner just to the ends of my hair or the outer portion--but I do tend to use it after each shampoo. My daughter, Amy, has very long, very thick hair. It's not color treated. She uses the same shampoo and conditioner every single day. I use GuarSilk and other conditioners/emollients in both the shampoo and conditioner (Amy's Conditioner in the Formulary)--it's full of conditioners. She has no build up at all on her hair and it's really beautiful and in great shape. My oldest daughter, Kim, has short, baby fine silky hair and requires a completely different shampoo and uses the conditioner once in a blue moon. Tell me more about your hair type, how is it over-conditioned? Which shampoo and conditioner formula you are using? I bet we can figure it out. Angie The Herbarie Natural Source Ingredients for Toiletries & Cosmetics http://www.theherbarie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 If you are already using a " light " > conditioning formula, then you may want to use it for maybe every other shampoo. I > personally like to switch back and forth on my shampoo formulas too. It just > sort of happens as a result of my experimentation, but I've noticed my hair > seems to enjoy the changes > I would agree that changing shampoos and conditioners benefits the hair, depending on types. Have you looked at FlexanII for removing cationic build up? I'm currently evaluating it for a thermal protect pre spray before curling or straightening:- http://www.personalcarepolymers.com/Doc/EN/TSB/028018A.pdf Dave E (still here occasionally) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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