Guest guest Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 They accused us of " making up a diagnosis that does not exist " I don't think there is such a thing as selective misophonia.... > > I had to laugh a little, I have to admit. > > I checked over at the H site for fun and I noted that one of the old Selective Sensitivity Syndrome posts has been changed to.... > > Selective Misophonia! > > Well maybe that is what will emerge with time. : ) > > Gotta keep the knees bent if you want to surf.....the waters can be rough at times. > > MJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Wow - thank you for that awesome summary While I think the my 4s is a pain in the butt there are some good things about it which the people looking at career choices with this 'gift' should look at. In the sound industry there must be jobs where the sound sensitivity would be a bonus. In the food and wine become a Sommelier. (for those with sensitive taste) Just a couple of ideas Cheers > > >stuff deleted< > > > > > P.S. 'Selective Misophonia' sounds stupid. Misophonia is about having a > > > fear of sounds. I'll say it again, I don't have a fear of sounds! In > > > > > stuff deleted< > > > > I think you may be confusing misophonia with phonophobia. Misophonia is the dislike of sounds, not the fear of them. Interestingly, when I googled misophonia I found this on Wikipedia: > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Misophonia, literally " hatred of sound " , is a form of decreased sound tolerance, also known as Selective Sound Sensitivity Syndrome or 4S. > > > > It is believed to result from abnormally strong connections between the autonomic and limbic systems in the brain, rather than over-activity in the auditory system itself. The term was coined by American neuroscientists Pawel Jastreboff and Margaret Jastreboff. [1] > > > > Unlike hyperacusis, misophonia is specific for certain sounds. Little is known about the anatomical location of the physiological abnormality that causes such symptoms but it is most likely high central nervous system structures.[2] > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Also, from the Hyperacusis network website: > > > > 4. MISOPHONIA: (dislike of sound) has often been thought to be hyperacusis. This is not true. A hyperacusis patient can have a strong fear of sound (phonophobia) or a specific dislike of specific soft sounds (misophonia) but neither one of these symptoms stand alone as hyperacusis. > > > > > > These definitions of " misophonia " sound compatible with what people here refer to as " 4S " . Perhaps the meaning of " misophonia " has evolved and morphed to accomodate 4S? Given the above, I'm not sure that there is really a difference between 4S and misophonia. It may be that by virtue of having published some papers and writing a book which mentions " misophonia " that Dr. Jasterboff will ultimately end up with naming rights for this syndrome. > > > > For what its worth, " selective misophonia " seems like a reasonable term to me (assuming there are types of misophonia that are not selective). I mean, if " misophonia " conveys the idea of being sensitive to sound, then " selective misophonia " IS 4S. To some extend we may be dealing with the difficulty of defining terms to describe conditions and experiences that actually aren't very well understood. At some point, when there is more known about how these sound sensitivities manifest themselves, it may make more sense to try to get more precise with the terminology. Right now, I don't think it matters too much what we call it. Of course, if common usage of " misophonia " is such that even with the modifier " selective " it is demonstrably different from 4S, then that could warrant trying to use the terms differently. > > > > -Craig > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Wow - thank you for that awesome summary While I think the my 4s is a pain in the butt there are some good things about it which the people looking at career choices with this 'gift' should look at. In the sound industry there must be jobs where the sound sensitivity would be a bonus. In the food and wine become a Sommelier. (for those with sensitive taste) Just a couple of ideas Cheers > > >stuff deleted< > > > > > P.S. 'Selective Misophonia' sounds stupid. Misophonia is about having a > > > fear of sounds. I'll say it again, I don't have a fear of sounds! In > > > > > stuff deleted< > > > > I think you may be confusing misophonia with phonophobia. Misophonia is the dislike of sounds, not the fear of them. Interestingly, when I googled misophonia I found this on Wikipedia: > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Misophonia, literally " hatred of sound " , is a form of decreased sound tolerance, also known as Selective Sound Sensitivity Syndrome or 4S. > > > > It is believed to result from abnormally strong connections between the autonomic and limbic systems in the brain, rather than over-activity in the auditory system itself. The term was coined by American neuroscientists Pawel Jastreboff and Margaret Jastreboff. [1] > > > > Unlike hyperacusis, misophonia is specific for certain sounds. Little is known about the anatomical location of the physiological abnormality that causes such symptoms but it is most likely high central nervous system structures.[2] > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Also, from the Hyperacusis network website: > > > > 4. MISOPHONIA: (dislike of sound) has often been thought to be hyperacusis. This is not true. A hyperacusis patient can have a strong fear of sound (phonophobia) or a specific dislike of specific soft sounds (misophonia) but neither one of these symptoms stand alone as hyperacusis. > > > > > > These definitions of " misophonia " sound compatible with what people here refer to as " 4S " . Perhaps the meaning of " misophonia " has evolved and morphed to accomodate 4S? Given the above, I'm not sure that there is really a difference between 4S and misophonia. It may be that by virtue of having published some papers and writing a book which mentions " misophonia " that Dr. Jasterboff will ultimately end up with naming rights for this syndrome. > > > > For what its worth, " selective misophonia " seems like a reasonable term to me (assuming there are types of misophonia that are not selective). I mean, if " misophonia " conveys the idea of being sensitive to sound, then " selective misophonia " IS 4S. To some extend we may be dealing with the difficulty of defining terms to describe conditions and experiences that actually aren't very well understood. At some point, when there is more known about how these sound sensitivities manifest themselves, it may make more sense to try to get more precise with the terminology. Right now, I don't think it matters too much what we call it. Of course, if common usage of " misophonia " is such that even with the modifier " selective " it is demonstrably different from 4S, then that could warrant trying to use the terms differently. > > > > -Craig > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Wow - thank you for that awesome summary While I think the my 4s is a pain in the butt there are some good things about it which the people looking at career choices with this 'gift' should look at. In the sound industry there must be jobs where the sound sensitivity would be a bonus. In the food and wine become a Sommelier. (for those with sensitive taste) Just a couple of ideas Cheers > > >stuff deleted< > > > > > P.S. 'Selective Misophonia' sounds stupid. Misophonia is about having a > > > fear of sounds. I'll say it again, I don't have a fear of sounds! In > > > > > stuff deleted< > > > > I think you may be confusing misophonia with phonophobia. Misophonia is the dislike of sounds, not the fear of them. Interestingly, when I googled misophonia I found this on Wikipedia: > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Misophonia, literally " hatred of sound " , is a form of decreased sound tolerance, also known as Selective Sound Sensitivity Syndrome or 4S. > > > > It is believed to result from abnormally strong connections between the autonomic and limbic systems in the brain, rather than over-activity in the auditory system itself. The term was coined by American neuroscientists Pawel Jastreboff and Margaret Jastreboff. [1] > > > > Unlike hyperacusis, misophonia is specific for certain sounds. Little is known about the anatomical location of the physiological abnormality that causes such symptoms but it is most likely high central nervous system structures.[2] > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Also, from the Hyperacusis network website: > > > > 4. MISOPHONIA: (dislike of sound) has often been thought to be hyperacusis. This is not true. A hyperacusis patient can have a strong fear of sound (phonophobia) or a specific dislike of specific soft sounds (misophonia) but neither one of these symptoms stand alone as hyperacusis. > > > > > > These definitions of " misophonia " sound compatible with what people here refer to as " 4S " . Perhaps the meaning of " misophonia " has evolved and morphed to accomodate 4S? Given the above, I'm not sure that there is really a difference between 4S and misophonia. It may be that by virtue of having published some papers and writing a book which mentions " misophonia " that Dr. Jasterboff will ultimately end up with naming rights for this syndrome. > > > > For what its worth, " selective misophonia " seems like a reasonable term to me (assuming there are types of misophonia that are not selective). I mean, if " misophonia " conveys the idea of being sensitive to sound, then " selective misophonia " IS 4S. To some extend we may be dealing with the difficulty of defining terms to describe conditions and experiences that actually aren't very well understood. At some point, when there is more known about how these sound sensitivities manifest themselves, it may make more sense to try to get more precise with the terminology. Right now, I don't think it matters too much what we call it. Of course, if common usage of " misophonia " is such that even with the modifier " selective " it is demonstrably different from 4S, then that could warrant trying to use the terms differently. > > > > -Craig > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Many people here have commented that alcohol is one of the few drugs that helps us tolerate trigger sounds. So maybe sommelier would be ideal for a person with 4S, provided they were able to test the product often enough. > > Wow - thank you for that awesome summary > > While I think the my 4s is a pain in the butt there are some good things about it which the people looking at career choices with this 'gift' should look at. In the sound industry there must be jobs where the sound sensitivity would be a bonus. > In the food and wine become a Sommelier. (for those with sensitive taste) > > Just a couple of ideas > > Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Many people here have commented that alcohol is one of the few drugs that helps us tolerate trigger sounds. So maybe sommelier would be ideal for a person with 4S, provided they were able to test the product often enough. > > Wow - thank you for that awesome summary > > While I think the my 4s is a pain in the butt there are some good things about it which the people looking at career choices with this 'gift' should look at. In the sound industry there must be jobs where the sound sensitivity would be a bonus. > In the food and wine become a Sommelier. (for those with sensitive taste) > > Just a couple of ideas > > Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Many people here have commented that alcohol is one of the few drugs that helps us tolerate trigger sounds. So maybe sommelier would be ideal for a person with 4S, provided they were able to test the product often enough. > > Wow - thank you for that awesome summary > > While I think the my 4s is a pain in the butt there are some good things about it which the people looking at career choices with this 'gift' should look at. In the sound industry there must be jobs where the sound sensitivity would be a bonus. > In the food and wine become a Sommelier. (for those with sensitive taste) > > Just a couple of ideas > > Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 I have always wanted to be either a sound editor or sommelier, seriously. I should just do it! :)Many people here have commented that alcohol is one of the few drugs that helps us tolerate trigger sounds.So maybe sommelier would be ideal for a person with 4S, provided they were able to test the product often enough.>> Wow - thank you for that awesome summary> > While I think the my 4s is a pain in the butt there are some good things about it which the people looking at career choices with this 'gift' should look at. In the sound industry there must be jobs where the sound sensitivity would be a bonus.> In the food and wine become a Sommelier. (for those with sensitive taste)> > Just a couple of ideas> > Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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