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Whoops,

This wasn't supposed to go to the group. Jacquelyn just can't keep up with

everybody right now. These are people she had known from the beginning and

feels she can keep up with right now. She feels like she is letting

everyone else down but I assured her that you all would understand and we

will be sure to keep you posted. Hope I didn't inadvertently hurt anyone's

feelings.

Peg

palfeld@... wrote:

> ,

> First of all what is your whole e-mail address?

>

> I talked to Jacquelyn on Friday and helped her eliminate all the

> e-mails coming to her so she can just check them on the e-groups web

> list. She was going to drop out of the group but hopefully she was

> able to change it so she can get on when she wants to.

>

> She asked that I tell you, Laurie, and Penny to e-mail her

> directly because she wants to keep up with you. If you don't have her

> phone number or address, I can give them to you because it is a lot

> easier for her to talk on the phone.

>

> Hopefully I have convinced her to get take some help from her friends

> and church members and get another vascular surgeon and get her

> insurance problems straightened out.

>

> She is trying to handle too much herself. She wants to do everything

> for everyone and is not thinking enough of herself and her own health.

>

> If you talk with her by phone or e-mail I have agreed that we would

> keep the group posted. Please let me know anything important that she

> is afraid of posting to the group as a whole. Maybe the 5 of us could

> contact her by phone and keep each other posted. I have free calls on

> Friday from work so I'll try to reach her then when I can.

>

> Peg

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Whoops,

This wasn't supposed to go to the group. Jacquelyn just can't keep up with

everybody right now. These are people she had known from the beginning and

feels she can keep up with right now. She feels like she is letting

everyone else down but I assured her that you all would understand and we

will be sure to keep you posted. Hope I didn't inadvertently hurt anyone's

feelings.

Peg

palfeld@... wrote:

> ,

> First of all what is your whole e-mail address?

>

> I talked to Jacquelyn on Friday and helped her eliminate all the

> e-mails coming to her so she can just check them on the e-groups web

> list. She was going to drop out of the group but hopefully she was

> able to change it so she can get on when she wants to.

>

> She asked that I tell you, Laurie, and Penny to e-mail her

> directly because she wants to keep up with you. If you don't have her

> phone number or address, I can give them to you because it is a lot

> easier for her to talk on the phone.

>

> Hopefully I have convinced her to get take some help from her friends

> and church members and get another vascular surgeon and get her

> insurance problems straightened out.

>

> She is trying to handle too much herself. She wants to do everything

> for everyone and is not thinking enough of herself and her own health.

>

> If you talk with her by phone or e-mail I have agreed that we would

> keep the group posted. Please let me know anything important that she

> is afraid of posting to the group as a whole. Maybe the 5 of us could

> contact her by phone and keep each other posted. I have free calls on

> Friday from work so I'll try to reach her then when I can.

>

> Peg

>

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First of all what is your whole e-mail address?

I talked to Jacquelyn on Friday and helped her eliminate all the

e-mails coming to her so she can just check them on the e-groups web

list. She was going to drop out of the group but hopefully she was

able to change it so she can get on when she wants to.

She asked that I tell you, Laurie, and Penny to e-mail her

directly because she wants to keep up with you. If you don't have her

phone number or address, I can give them to you because it is a lot

easier for her to talk on the phone.

Hopefully I have convinced her to get take some help from her friends

and church members and get another vascular surgeon and get her

insurance problems straightened out.

She is trying to handle too much herself. She wants to do everything

for everyone and is not thinking enough of herself and her own health.

If you talk with her by phone or e-mail I have agreed that we would

keep the group posted. Please let me know anything important that she

is afraid of posting to the group as a whole. Maybe the 5 of us could

contact her by phone and keep each other posted. I have free calls on

Friday from work so I'll try to reach her then when I can.

Peg

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First of all what is your whole e-mail address?

I talked to Jacquelyn on Friday and helped her eliminate all the

e-mails coming to her so she can just check them on the e-groups web

list. She was going to drop out of the group but hopefully she was

able to change it so she can get on when she wants to.

She asked that I tell you, Laurie, and Penny to e-mail her

directly because she wants to keep up with you. If you don't have her

phone number or address, I can give them to you because it is a lot

easier for her to talk on the phone.

Hopefully I have convinced her to get take some help from her friends

and church members and get another vascular surgeon and get her

insurance problems straightened out.

She is trying to handle too much herself. She wants to do everything

for everyone and is not thinking enough of herself and her own health.

If you talk with her by phone or e-mail I have agreed that we would

keep the group posted. Please let me know anything important that she

is afraid of posting to the group as a whole. Maybe the 5 of us could

contact her by phone and keep each other posted. I have free calls on

Friday from work so I'll try to reach her then when I can.

Peg

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Biddy,

I posted after I talked with her Friday. She is doing about the same but is

planning to have a friend help her resolve some of her problems and take some

more steps that may speed up her recovery. It's very hard for her to sit at the

computer because of her legs. So I try to talk with her on the phone as much as

I can and relay her progress to you guys. Keep praying for her it's very hard

with 2 small children. On a good note she is singing at a friends wedding,

infact she sang a little of the song for me on Friday. She is such a sweet

person.

Peg

Biddy Santon wrote:

> Peg,

> How is doing? I do pray for her everyday, but haven't heard

> about her lately. Since you are so close to her, would you please tell her

> that she is and has never been forgotten. Please give me (us) an update.

> Hugs,

> Biddy

>

> Re: land Meeting

>

> >I can't wait to meet you guys next year. Keep June 18th in mind cause that

> >would probably be the best time to meet you guys or as Jacquelyn would say

> " You

> >all " . Speaking of Jacquelyn, please keep praying for her. Anyway I really

> hope

> >to meet a bunch of you when we come to land next June.

> >Peg

> >

> > wrote:

> >

> >> Oh, Tim,

> >> I sympathize with you about the colonoscopy. Good luck with the prep.

> It's

> >> certainly worse than the procedure. And I hope there's no major problem.

> >> Keep us posted.

> >>

> >>

> >> Romlein wrote:

> >>

> >> > & Larry,

> >> > Glad you had a good meeting at the Cheesecake Factory. Sounds

> >> > like a good time was had by all.

> >> >

> >> > you remind me that I go to prepare tomorrow for

> >> > colonoscopy on Thursday, I'm expecting a clean bill of health

> >> > also, but a bit of blood in thesmear samples indicated a more

> >> > though check was advised. (I know of other PSC transplant

> >> > patients who had UC show up 2 years after tx, I would rather

> >> > avoid it).

> >> >

> >> > Tim ltx 4/4/98

> >> >

> >> > =====

> >> >

> >> > __________________________________________________

> >> >

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Thank you so much for the update on Jacquelyn. Thank God she can sing again!

Hugs,

Biddy

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>>

>> >I can't wait to meet you guys next year. Keep June 18th in mind cause

that

>> >would probably be the best time to meet you guys or as Jacquelyn would

say

>> " You

>> >all " . Speaking of Jacquelyn, please keep praying for her. Anyway I

really

>> hope

>> >to meet a bunch of you when we come to land next June.

>> >Peg

>> >

>> > wrote:

>> >

>> >> Oh, Tim,

>> >> I sympathize with you about the colonoscopy. Good luck with the prep.

>> It's

>> >> certainly worse than the procedure. And I hope there's no major

problem.

>> >> Keep us posted.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> Romlein wrote:

>> >>

>> >> > & Larry,

>> >> > Glad you had a good meeting at the Cheesecake Factory. Sounds

>> >> > like a good time was had by all.

>> >> >

>> >> > you remind me that I go to prepare tomorrow for

>> >> > colonoscopy on Thursday, I'm expecting a clean bill of health

>> >> > also, but a bit of blood in thesmear samples indicated a more

>> >> > though check was advised. (I know of other PSC transplant

>> >> > patients who had UC show up 2 years after tx, I would rather

>> >> > avoid it).

>> >> >

>> >> > Tim ltx 4/4/98

>> >> >

>> >> > =====

>> >> >

>> >> > __________________________________________________

>> >> >

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Peggy,

Your suggestions sound really good -- only if Jacquelyn will listen and

I understand her in the fact that she really is so confused at this time and

doesn't know what to do. I just hope and pray with all of my heart that she

does what is right for her.

Her health has been bothering me, as well as all of you, so much that it

makes one sick. She is profoundly such a good Christian, mother, wife and

friend that it is so hard to understand why she, of all people, should be

going through this.

It goes to show that nothing is 100%. I just wish that there was

something we all could do, but I think you all are doing it -- standing

behind her and giving her such support.

Does her husband ever post? Forgive me if he does and has, but I can

tell you that the confusion is not funny.

Just give her my love and tell her that prayers are coming from West

Virginia!!

Hugs,

Biddy

Jacquelyn

>I spoke with Jacquelyn last night. As usual, she was very concerned

>that her problems might frighten anyone waiting for a tx. She is still

>having vascular difficulties. I strongly suggested that she get an

>unedited tape of her tx (newer members here probably don't know that her

>surgery was filmed and televised) so that the tape can be used in

>determining what caused her current problem with the collapsed vena

>cava. I also suggested that she get a copy of the written account of

>her surgery, but...as we all know....this is subject to tampering if

>someone is in a CYA mode. I also URGED her to see another vascular

>specialist totally unrelated to the tx team and the other vascular

>surgeon so that she can get another unbiased opinion. She needs someone

>with no axe to grind, but no allegiance to the tx team etc.

>

>My thought is that her tx was done in record time and someone has made

>an error --

>and I think it is jeopardizing her life. She is about my daughter's age

>with two young children and, like most very idealistic and religious

>people she cannot bring herself to make waves.

>

>Her church in Oklahoma City is hoping to do a fundraiser so that she can

>go to Mayo or another major facility for another opinion--she has great

>support if only she can force herself to use it.

>

>She says that there are too many posts to read and will likely not get

>to them. If anyone has any other suggestions, please contact Peg or me

>and we will pass them along.

>

>Penny

>

>

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Penny,

Thanks for the update. We are hoping and praying that Jacquelyn will get

better.

Regarding a second opinion, I think that sounds like a really good idea. I

don't recall whether Jacquelyn has medical insurance but many programs will

pay for the cost of second opinion, especially if surgery is being

considered. They might even pay for travel if needed.

It's not making waves to ask for a second or third opinion. Most doctors

are used to this and are not offended by the idea.

If there is going to be a fund raiser, please send me an address and I will

make a contribution.

I don't really understand the medical problem, but it may not necessarily be

the result of some kind of surgical error. All major surgery is risky and

especially organ transplants.

I have a relative who had a very bad experience a few years ago with a

surgical procedure that was done to correct a clogged artery. Without this

surgery he would have had a major stroke and possibly died. Well,

unfortunately the surgery did not go well and he had a stroke anyway, which

has left him partially disabled. He remains very bitter toward the surgeon

and toward the medical profession in general. I really don't know whether

there was an error or not, but I think that most doctors try to do the very

best that they can.

Thanks, Roy T.

Jacquelyn

> I spoke with Jacquelyn last night. As usual, she was very concerned

> that her problems might frighten anyone waiting for a tx. She is still

> having vascular difficulties. I strongly suggested that she get an

> unedited tape of her tx (newer members here probably don't know that her

> surgery was filmed and televised) so that the tape can be used in

> determining what caused her current problem with the collapsed vena

> cava. I also suggested that she get a copy of the written account of

> her surgery, but...as we all know....this is subject to tampering if

> someone is in a CYA mode. I also URGED her to see another vascular

> specialist totally unrelated to the tx team and the other vascular

> surgeon so that she can get another unbiased opinion. She needs someone

> with no axe to grind, but no allegiance to the tx team etc.

>

> My thought is that her tx was done in record time and someone has made

> an error --

> and I think it is jeopardizing her life. She is about my daughter's age

> with two young children and, like most very idealistic and religious

> people she cannot bring herself to make waves.

>

> Her church in Oklahoma City is hoping to do a fundraiser so that she can

> go to Mayo or another major facility for another opinion--she has great

> support if only she can force herself to use it.

>

> She says that there are too many posts to read and will likely not get

> to them. If anyone has any other suggestions, please contact Peg or me

> and we will pass them along.

>

> Penny

>

>

>

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Penny,

Please tell Jacquelyn that my family and I are praying for her.

Jodi

Jodi Rhoades, 's Mom

(age almost 10 - diagnosed with PSC 6-99 - symptoms since 96)

" For surely I know the plans I have for you, says the Lord, plans for your

welfare and not for harm, to give you a future with hope. " 29:11

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Roy,

That is very generous of you. I'll be sure to let Jacquelyn know and try to get

an address. Jacquelyn has medicare and supplemental Secure Horizons. Medicare

paid all but $8.00 of her surgery but Secure Horizons isn't paying one of her

anti-rejection meds. I'm sure they would if she'd just enlist her doctors help

and confront them. I think I pushed her hard enough that she had a friend help

her with it and they are looking into it.

I don't know how Medicare and Secure Horizons are about changing facilities when

it comes to transplant situations. But if she isn't getting proper care there

has got to be something she should do. She seems to be overwhelmed just trying

to take care of the kids and keep up with life. Her greatgrandmother just died

right after she and the kids made a trip to Galveston to see her so they had to

go back for the funeral and she was singing for a friends wedding last week.

Both of her kids have been sick with the flu. I really can't imagine how she

does it.

Peg

Roy Toutant wrote:

> Penny,

>

> Thanks for the update. We are hoping and praying that Jacquelyn will get

> better.

>

> Regarding a second opinion, I think that sounds like a really good idea. I

> don't recall whether Jacquelyn has medical insurance but many programs will

> pay for the cost of second opinion, especially if surgery is being

> considered. They might even pay for travel if needed.

>

> It's not making waves to ask for a second or third opinion. Most doctors

> are used to this and are not offended by the idea.

>

> If there is going to be a fund raiser, please send me an address and I will

> make a contribution.

>

> I don't really understand the medical problem, but it may not necessarily be

> the result of some kind of surgical error. All major surgery is risky and

> especially organ transplants.

>

> I have a relative who had a very bad experience a few years ago with a

> surgical procedure that was done to correct a clogged artery. Without this

> surgery he would have had a major stroke and possibly died. Well,

> unfortunately the surgery did not go well and he had a stroke anyway, which

> has left him partially disabled. He remains very bitter toward the surgeon

> and toward the medical profession in general. I really don't know whether

> there was an error or not, but I think that most doctors try to do the very

> best that they can.

>

> Thanks, Roy T.

>

> Jacquelyn

>

> > I spoke with Jacquelyn last night. As usual, she was very concerned

> > that her problems might frighten anyone waiting for a tx. She is still

> > having vascular difficulties. I strongly suggested that she get an

> > unedited tape of her tx (newer members here probably don't know that her

> > surgery was filmed and televised) so that the tape can be used in

> > determining what caused her current problem with the collapsed vena

> > cava. I also suggested that she get a copy of the written account of

> > her surgery, but...as we all know....this is subject to tampering if

> > someone is in a CYA mode. I also URGED her to see another vascular

> > specialist totally unrelated to the tx team and the other vascular

> > surgeon so that she can get another unbiased opinion. She needs someone

> > with no axe to grind, but no allegiance to the tx team etc.

> >

> > My thought is that her tx was done in record time and someone has made

> > an error --

> > and I think it is jeopardizing her life. She is about my daughter's age

> > with two young children and, like most very idealistic and religious

> > people she cannot bring herself to make waves.

> >

> > Her church in Oklahoma City is hoping to do a fundraiser so that she can

> > go to Mayo or another major facility for another opinion--she has great

> > support if only she can force herself to use it.

> >

> > She says that there are too many posts to read and will likely not get

> > to them. If anyone has any other suggestions, please contact Peg or me

> > and we will pass them along.

> >

> > Penny

> >

> >

> >

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Peggy, Penny,

If there is a fundraiser for Jacquelyn, why not post the address on our

support group. I also would love to send a donation. It breaks my heart to

hear of her struggles, and the many others' struggles here on this group. I

haven't been with this group very long, and don't know who has come and go

on this list. But my biggest fear with this list is that someday we are

going to lose one of us. I'm often at a loss for words when I read posts

about serious and critical moments, but my heart aches with every post and I

pray for all of you. When obituaries are posted in our local paper, they

always list an address and name or organization to send " memorials " to. In

my heart it make more sense to send a donation now to contribute toward the

returning health of a friend, rather than to help pay for funeral expenses

later.

Jacquelyn

> >

> > > I spoke with Jacquelyn last night. As usual, she was very concerned

> > > that her problems might frighten anyone waiting for a tx. She is

still

> > > having vascular difficulties. I strongly suggested that she get an

> > > unedited tape of her tx (newer members here probably don't know that

her

> > > surgery was filmed and televised) so that the tape can be used in

> > > determining what caused her current problem with the collapsed vena

> > > cava. I also suggested that she get a copy of the written account of

> > > her surgery, but...as we all know....this is subject to tampering if

> > > someone is in a CYA mode. I also URGED her to see another vascular

> > > specialist totally unrelated to the tx team and the other vascular

> > > surgeon so that she can get another unbiased opinion. She needs

someone

> > > with no axe to grind, but no allegiance to the tx team etc.

> > >

> > > My thought is that her tx was done in record time and someone has made

> > > an error --

> > > and I think it is jeopardizing her life. She is about my daughter's

age

> > > with two young children and, like most very idealistic and religious

> > > people she cannot bring herself to make waves.

> > >

> > > Her church in Oklahoma City is hoping to do a fundraiser so that she

can

> > > go to Mayo or another major facility for another opinion--she has

great

> > > support if only she can force herself to use it.

> > >

> > > She says that there are too many posts to read and will likely not get

> > > to them. If anyone has any other suggestions, please contact Peg or

me

> > > and we will pass them along.

> > >

> > > Penny

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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I'll pass on your touching words the next time I talk with Jacquelyn and try to

get the address where donations can be made. In the beginning of Phil's disease

I saw a web site about a lady who need financial help to get a transplant.

Peg

" Fraser & Co. " wrote:

> Peggy, Penny,

>

> If there is a fundraiser for Jacquelyn, why not post the address on our

> support group. I also would love to send a donation. It breaks my heart to

> hear of her struggles, and the many others' struggles here on this group. I

> haven't been with this group very long, and don't know who has come and go

> on this list. But my biggest fear with this list is that someday we are

> going to lose one of us. I'm often at a loss for words when I read posts

> about serious and critical moments, but my heart aches with every post and I

> pray for all of you. When obituaries are posted in our local paper, they

> always list an address and name or organization to send " memorials " to. In

> my heart it make more sense to send a donation now to contribute toward the

> returning health of a friend, rather than to help pay for funeral expenses

> later.

>

>

>

> Jacquelyn

> > >

> > > > I spoke with Jacquelyn last night. As usual, she was very concerned

> > > > that her problems might frighten anyone waiting for a tx. She is

> still

> > > > having vascular difficulties. I strongly suggested that she get an

> > > > unedited tape of her tx (newer members here probably don't know that

> her

> > > > surgery was filmed and televised) so that the tape can be used in

> > > > determining what caused her current problem with the collapsed vena

> > > > cava. I also suggested that she get a copy of the written account of

> > > > her surgery, but...as we all know....this is subject to tampering if

> > > > someone is in a CYA mode. I also URGED her to see another vascular

> > > > specialist totally unrelated to the tx team and the other vascular

> > > > surgeon so that she can get another unbiased opinion. She needs

> someone

> > > > with no axe to grind, but no allegiance to the tx team etc.

> > > >

> > > > My thought is that her tx was done in record time and someone has made

> > > > an error --

> > > > and I think it is jeopardizing her life. She is about my daughter's

> age

> > > > with two young children and, like most very idealistic and religious

> > > > people she cannot bring herself to make waves.

> > > >

> > > > Her church in Oklahoma City is hoping to do a fundraiser so that she

> can

> > > > go to Mayo or another major facility for another opinion--she has

> great

> > > > support if only she can force herself to use it.

> > > >

> > > > She says that there are too many posts to read and will likely not get

> > > > to them. If anyone has any other suggestions, please contact Peg or

> me

> > > > and we will pass them along.

> > > >

> > > > Penny

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

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I'll pass on your touching words the next time I talk with Jacquelyn and try to

get the address where donations can be made. In the beginning of Phil's disease

I saw a web site about a lady who need financial help to get a transplant.

Peg

" Fraser & Co. " wrote:

> Peggy, Penny,

>

> If there is a fundraiser for Jacquelyn, why not post the address on our

> support group. I also would love to send a donation. It breaks my heart to

> hear of her struggles, and the many others' struggles here on this group. I

> haven't been with this group very long, and don't know who has come and go

> on this list. But my biggest fear with this list is that someday we are

> going to lose one of us. I'm often at a loss for words when I read posts

> about serious and critical moments, but my heart aches with every post and I

> pray for all of you. When obituaries are posted in our local paper, they

> always list an address and name or organization to send " memorials " to. In

> my heart it make more sense to send a donation now to contribute toward the

> returning health of a friend, rather than to help pay for funeral expenses

> later.

>

>

>

> Jacquelyn

> > >

> > > > I spoke with Jacquelyn last night. As usual, she was very concerned

> > > > that her problems might frighten anyone waiting for a tx. She is

> still

> > > > having vascular difficulties. I strongly suggested that she get an

> > > > unedited tape of her tx (newer members here probably don't know that

> her

> > > > surgery was filmed and televised) so that the tape can be used in

> > > > determining what caused her current problem with the collapsed vena

> > > > cava. I also suggested that she get a copy of the written account of

> > > > her surgery, but...as we all know....this is subject to tampering if

> > > > someone is in a CYA mode. I also URGED her to see another vascular

> > > > specialist totally unrelated to the tx team and the other vascular

> > > > surgeon so that she can get another unbiased opinion. She needs

> someone

> > > > with no axe to grind, but no allegiance to the tx team etc.

> > > >

> > > > My thought is that her tx was done in record time and someone has made

> > > > an error --

> > > > and I think it is jeopardizing her life. She is about my daughter's

> age

> > > > with two young children and, like most very idealistic and religious

> > > > people she cannot bring herself to make waves.

> > > >

> > > > Her church in Oklahoma City is hoping to do a fundraiser so that she

> can

> > > > go to Mayo or another major facility for another opinion--she has

> great

> > > > support if only she can force herself to use it.

> > > >

> > > > She says that there are too many posts to read and will likely not get

> > > > to them. If anyone has any other suggestions, please contact Peg or

> me

> > > > and we will pass them along.

> > > >

> > > > Penny

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I'll pass on your touching words the next time I talk with Jacquelyn and try to

get the address where donations can be made. In the beginning of Phil's disease

I saw a web site about a lady who need financial help to get a transplant.

Peg

" Fraser & Co. " wrote:

> Peggy, Penny,

>

> If there is a fundraiser for Jacquelyn, why not post the address on our

> support group. I also would love to send a donation. It breaks my heart to

> hear of her struggles, and the many others' struggles here on this group. I

> haven't been with this group very long, and don't know who has come and go

> on this list. But my biggest fear with this list is that someday we are

> going to lose one of us. I'm often at a loss for words when I read posts

> about serious and critical moments, but my heart aches with every post and I

> pray for all of you. When obituaries are posted in our local paper, they

> always list an address and name or organization to send " memorials " to. In

> my heart it make more sense to send a donation now to contribute toward the

> returning health of a friend, rather than to help pay for funeral expenses

> later.

>

>

>

> Jacquelyn

> > >

> > > > I spoke with Jacquelyn last night. As usual, she was very concerned

> > > > that her problems might frighten anyone waiting for a tx. She is

> still

> > > > having vascular difficulties. I strongly suggested that she get an

> > > > unedited tape of her tx (newer members here probably don't know that

> her

> > > > surgery was filmed and televised) so that the tape can be used in

> > > > determining what caused her current problem with the collapsed vena

> > > > cava. I also suggested that she get a copy of the written account of

> > > > her surgery, but...as we all know....this is subject to tampering if

> > > > someone is in a CYA mode. I also URGED her to see another vascular

> > > > specialist totally unrelated to the tx team and the other vascular

> > > > surgeon so that she can get another unbiased opinion. She needs

> someone

> > > > with no axe to grind, but no allegiance to the tx team etc.

> > > >

> > > > My thought is that her tx was done in record time and someone has made

> > > > an error --

> > > > and I think it is jeopardizing her life. She is about my daughter's

> age

> > > > with two young children and, like most very idealistic and religious

> > > > people she cannot bring herself to make waves.

> > > >

> > > > Her church in Oklahoma City is hoping to do a fundraiser so that she

> can

> > > > go to Mayo or another major facility for another opinion--she has

> great

> > > > support if only she can force herself to use it.

> > > >

> > > > She says that there are too many posts to read and will likely not get

> > > > to them. If anyone has any other suggestions, please contact Peg or

> me

> > > > and we will pass them along.

> > > >

> > > > Penny

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

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Penny,

Thanks for this update on and for keeping us all informed. I

will be contacting her personally to tell her that I wish her the best.

I feel exactly like you about this vascular thing.

PR Weller wrote:

> I spoke with Jacquelyn last night. As usual, she was very concerned

> that her problems might frighten anyone waiting for a tx. She is still

> having vascular difficulties. I strongly suggested that she get an

> unedited tape of her tx (newer members here probably don't know that her

> surgery was filmed and televised) so that the tape can be used in

> determining what caused her current problem with the collapsed vena

> cava. I also suggested that she get a copy of the written account of

> her surgery, but...as we all know....this is subject to tampering if

> someone is in a CYA mode. I also URGED her to see another vascular

> specialist totally unrelated to the tx team and the other vascular

> surgeon so that she can get another unbiased opinion. She needs someone

> with no axe to grind, but no allegiance to the tx team etc.

>

> My thought is that her tx was done in record time and someone has made

> an error --

> and I think it is jeopardizing her life. She is about my daughter's age

> with two young children and, like most very idealistic and religious

> people she cannot bring herself to make waves.

>

> Her church in Oklahoma City is hoping to do a fundraiser so that she can

> go to Mayo or another major facility for another opinion--she has great

> support if only she can force herself to use it.

>

> She says that there are too many posts to read and will likely not get

> to them. If anyone has any other suggestions, please contact Peg or me

> and we will pass them along.

>

> Penny

>

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Penny,

Thanks for this update on and for keeping us all informed. I

will be contacting her personally to tell her that I wish her the best.

I feel exactly like you about this vascular thing.

PR Weller wrote:

> I spoke with Jacquelyn last night. As usual, she was very concerned

> that her problems might frighten anyone waiting for a tx. She is still

> having vascular difficulties. I strongly suggested that she get an

> unedited tape of her tx (newer members here probably don't know that her

> surgery was filmed and televised) so that the tape can be used in

> determining what caused her current problem with the collapsed vena

> cava. I also suggested that she get a copy of the written account of

> her surgery, but...as we all know....this is subject to tampering if

> someone is in a CYA mode. I also URGED her to see another vascular

> specialist totally unrelated to the tx team and the other vascular

> surgeon so that she can get another unbiased opinion. She needs someone

> with no axe to grind, but no allegiance to the tx team etc.

>

> My thought is that her tx was done in record time and someone has made

> an error --

> and I think it is jeopardizing her life. She is about my daughter's age

> with two young children and, like most very idealistic and religious

> people she cannot bring herself to make waves.

>

> Her church in Oklahoma City is hoping to do a fundraiser so that she can

> go to Mayo or another major facility for another opinion--she has great

> support if only she can force herself to use it.

>

> She says that there are too many posts to read and will likely not get

> to them. If anyone has any other suggestions, please contact Peg or me

> and we will pass them along.

>

> Penny

>

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I spoke with Jacquelyn briefly last night. She was running out with her husband

to someone about something. She had spendt a wonderful day with her children at

their church's fall festival. She said that he had been down with another

kidney infection and well as her UC doing real bad and also the vascular problem

but felt well enough to go out with her family yesterday.

I told her about the offers from the group to contribute to the funds that were

being taken up to get her some help to resolve her vascular problem. She was

touched and said that she will e-mail the addresses to me. She said there are 2

ways on that is tax deductible and that either way would help her. So I will

forward it as soon as I get it.

Peg

Fraser & Co. wrote:

> Peggy, Penny,

>

> If there is a fundraiser for Jacquelyn, why not post the address on our

> support group. I also would love to send a donation. It breaks my heart to

> hear of her struggles, and the many others' struggles here on this group. I

> haven't been with this group very long, and don't know who has come and go

> on this list. But my biggest fear with this list is that someday we are

> going to lose one of us. I'm often at a loss for words when I read posts

> about serious and critical moments, but my heart aches with every post and I

> pray for all of you. When obituaries are posted in our local paper, they

> always list an address and name or organization to send " memorials " to. In

> my heart it make more sense to send a donation now to contribute toward the

> returning health of a friend, rather than to help pay for funeral expenses

> later.

>

>

>

> Jacquelyn

> > >

> > > > I spoke with Jacquelyn last night. As usual, she was very concerned

> > > > that her problems might frighten anyone waiting for a tx. She is

> still

> > > > having vascular difficulties. I strongly suggested that she get an

> > > > unedited tape of her tx (newer members here probably don't know that

> her

> > > > surgery was filmed and televised) so that the tape can be used in

> > > > determining what caused her current problem with the collapsed vena

> > > > cava. I also suggested that she get a copy of the written account of

> > > > her surgery, but...as we all know....this is subject to tampering if

> > > > someone is in a CYA mode. I also URGED her to see another vascular

> > > > specialist totally unrelated to the tx team and the other vascular

> > > > surgeon so that she can get another unbiased opinion. She needs

> someone

> > > > with no axe to grind, but no allegiance to the tx team etc.

> > > >

> > > > My thought is that her tx was done in record time and someone has made

> > > > an error --

> > > > and I think it is jeopardizing her life. She is about my daughter's

> age

> > > > with two young children and, like most very idealistic and religious

> > > > people she cannot bring herself to make waves.

> > > >

> > > > Her church in Oklahoma City is hoping to do a fundraiser so that she

> can

> > > > go to Mayo or another major facility for another opinion--she has

> great

> > > > support if only she can force herself to use it.

> > > >

> > > > She says that there are too many posts to read and will likely not get

> > > > to them. If anyone has any other suggestions, please contact Peg or

> me

> > > > and we will pass them along.

> > > >

> > > > Penny

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Peg...

I have read about Jacquelyns vascular problem...well the fact that she has

one...could you explain exactly what is happening to her ...what the symptoms

are and what they are doing for her...

Thanks

Luanne Ty's mom

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Dear Group,

Roy, thank you so very much for your sweet post!!! This group is

amazing!! You all lift me up so much. I have to really apologize and ask

your forgiveness for not getting online very frequently. I miss all of you

all so much, but have not felt like getting online very often.

Please do not think that the liver tx was a bad thing....MY LIVER IS

DOING AND FUNCTIONING beautifully. No itching is such a wonderful thing!!!!

There is a problem with an arterey called the inferior vena cava and the docs

are still saying it's too risky to fix.

But after Penny's sweet encouragement, I did ask for a second opinion and

they are working to get one. I also did get a " hard blow " this past week at

the docs office. They and most of the docs at Baylor are dropping all HMO's

including the one that I am on. (And to tell you the truth I don't blame

them...any way that's a long story!! :))

So, I do believe that we will go with conventional Medicare. Although

they don't pay for any prescriptions, we have done some fundraising and we

have decided to put it in the Good Lord's hands.....He's brought me this

far....I just have to stay focused on Him and all will be all right....for me

and for all of you!!!

Please know that I pray for ALL OF YOU each and every day and night....so

do the kids and Luke.

Everyone....will you please join me in continuous prayer for Penny. I

got a message from Peg (my angel!!) that Penny is in the hospital with a

blockage. I was in those shoes just months ago, but now that's not an issue

anymore. Please pray for the doctors to have the wisdom and knowledge that

they need to get her to feeling 100%.....well....at least 75%!! :)

I love you all dearly!!

Jacquelyn

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Dear Group,

Roy, thank you so very much for your sweet post!!! This group is

amazing!! You all lift me up so much. I have to really apologize and ask

your forgiveness for not getting online very frequently. I miss all of you

all so much, but have not felt like getting online very often.

Please do not think that the liver tx was a bad thing....MY LIVER IS

DOING AND FUNCTIONING beautifully. No itching is such a wonderful thing!!!!

There is a problem with an arterey called the inferior vena cava and the docs

are still saying it's too risky to fix.

But after Penny's sweet encouragement, I did ask for a second opinion and

they are working to get one. I also did get a " hard blow " this past week at

the docs office. They and most of the docs at Baylor are dropping all HMO's

including the one that I am on. (And to tell you the truth I don't blame

them...any way that's a long story!! :))

So, I do believe that we will go with conventional Medicare. Although

they don't pay for any prescriptions, we have done some fundraising and we

have decided to put it in the Good Lord's hands.....He's brought me this

far....I just have to stay focused on Him and all will be all right....for me

and for all of you!!!

Please know that I pray for ALL OF YOU each and every day and night....so

do the kids and Luke.

Everyone....will you please join me in continuous prayer for Penny. I

got a message from Peg (my angel!!) that Penny is in the hospital with a

blockage. I was in those shoes just months ago, but now that's not an issue

anymore. Please pray for the doctors to have the wisdom and knowledge that

they need to get her to feeling 100%.....well....at least 75%!! :)

I love you all dearly!!

Jacquelyn

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Biddy,

Your post was so sweet. Thank you for caring so much...that means the

world to me. My sweet husband doesn't have time to post b/c he's so busy

taking care of me, the kids, his engineering work, and his new " fishing

ministry " inc. that we've started.

Your question as to why this is happening to me...I don't have an answer

for...but I want you to know that I am at peace at whatever God allows me to

go through because I hold onto that verse in Romans 8:28.. " For we know that

all things work together for good to those who love God and to those who are

called according to His purpose. " When I am sick and out in public or when I

talk to anyone I am able tell them all of the blessings that He has given

us....Three walking miracles, me and and Calvin.....We can throw on

Luke as a walking miracle too b/c of the way he has endured all of my

sufferings and has never once complained or left my side.:)

So, I always can find something good about every event in my

life...Sometimes it takes me praying for an answer daily, weekly.....just in

His perfect timing.

Thank you again for being so kind!!!

Much love,

Jacquelyn

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Dearest ,

You are so precious....thank you so much. Your words were so sweet that

it brought tears to my eyes. It looks like now that I will be losing my HMO

coverage and going to conventional Medicare, we will need more fundraising,

but I want all of y'all to keep your money for your own medical

expenses....You need every dime that you can get! :)

Again.....you all are among my " best friends " in this world!! God has

truly blessed me with all of y'all.

God Bless!!

Love and prayers,

Jacquelyn

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I spoke with Jacquelyn. Her GYN has found the source of her colon problems. It

is

being constricted by adhesions. She has had several surgeries and unfortunately

adhesions can be the aftermath of from surgeries especially multiple surgeries.

He

also had a fit about her legs and said he would talk with the vascular surgeon.

The problems she is having with Secure Horizons and Baylor not accepting HMO's

anymore

sounds like a visious circle with poor Jacquelyn in the middle. They are going

to go

with straight medicare and that way she will have more choices in doctors and

medical

centers etc. The problem is it won't cover her meds. She has found a few

sources to

help her with that. It isn't bad enough to have all this physical pain but so

many of

you guys have to suffer dealing with the medical RULERS.

She has been told to absolutely stay off her feet for the weekend. And while I

was

talking to her a spider bit her. Hope that ends up okay. She lasted through

our long

conversation with no ill effects so that's a good sign.

Well it's time to go home. Talk to ya'll later.

Peg

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