Re: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum Island

[Guest guest]

I agree. I saw it on Youtube, part 1-4 after someone mentioned it. I don't have trutv. Very good piece. I'm sure the real and total info on the place would blow us all away. They said over 13,000 or so bioweapon labs are now operating, many more unmarked. Man makes mistakes--consantly. Do these people really believe accidents and bad things aren't going to happen? I'm told Univ. of MN has a secret lyme bioweapon lab running.

What the ___ was the US doing hiring this Nazi "dr" (right under Hiemler)? Why wasn't he on a war trial?\

This country is pretty self-destructive a good deal of the time. Monster animals and monster humanoids washing ashore near Plum Island and all the lyme.

Yet we have no power to know what is really going on.

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:25:09 AMSubject: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum Island

I know that this program was aired before, but I never saw it until last night. Ventura brings up a good point. Why are we paying the salaries of people to work at this facility and then not know exactly what they are doing? He made a compelling case for Lyme disease originating from Plum Island. The Nazi Scientist Traub who was brought over after world war II to work in the lab was purposely infecting tics with diseases. It never ceases to amaze me that these scientists think that they can play God. Once Pandora's box is open, you can't close it again. This trend is truly scary. Now they want to move this lab to Kansas where much of our food is grown.

[Guest guest]

I agree. I saw it on Youtube, part 1-4 after someone mentioned it. I don't have trutv. Very good piece. I'm sure the real and total info on the place would blow us all away. They said over 13,000 or so bioweapon labs are now operating, many more unmarked. Man makes mistakes--consantly. Do these people really believe accidents and bad things aren't going to happen? I'm told Univ. of MN has a secret lyme bioweapon lab running.

What the ___ was the US doing hiring this Nazi "dr" (right under Hiemler)? Why wasn't he on a war trial?\

This country is pretty self-destructive a good deal of the time. Monster animals and monster humanoids washing ashore near Plum Island and all the lyme.

Yet we have no power to know what is really going on.

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:25:09 AMSubject: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum Island

I know that this program was aired before, but I never saw it until last night. Ventura brings up a good point. Why are we paying the salaries of people to work at this facility and then not know exactly what they are doing? He made a compelling case for Lyme disease originating from Plum Island. The Nazi Scientist Traub who was brought over after world war II to work in the lab was purposely infecting tics with diseases. It never ceases to amaze me that these scientists think that they can play God. Once Pandora's box is open, you can't close it again. This trend is truly scary. Now they want to move this lab to Kansas where much of our food is grown.

[Guest guest]

I agree. I saw it on Youtube, part 1-4 after someone mentioned it. I don't have trutv. Very good piece. I'm sure the real and total info on the place would blow us all away. They said over 13,000 or so bioweapon labs are now operating, many more unmarked. Man makes mistakes--consantly. Do these people really believe accidents and bad things aren't going to happen? I'm told Univ. of MN has a secret lyme bioweapon lab running.

What the ___ was the US doing hiring this Nazi "dr" (right under Hiemler)? Why wasn't he on a war trial?\

This country is pretty self-destructive a good deal of the time. Monster animals and monster humanoids washing ashore near Plum Island and all the lyme.

Yet we have no power to know what is really going on.

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:25:09 AMSubject: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum Island

I know that this program was aired before, but I never saw it until last night. Ventura brings up a good point. Why are we paying the salaries of people to work at this facility and then not know exactly what they are doing? He made a compelling case for Lyme disease originating from Plum Island. The Nazi Scientist Traub who was brought over after world war II to work in the lab was purposely infecting tics with diseases. It never ceases to amaze me that these scientists think that they can play God. Once Pandora's box is open, you can't close it again. This trend is truly scary. Now they want to move this lab to Kansas where much of our food is grown.

[Guest guest]

There was a covert campaign for allowing ex-Nazi scientists into the U.S. after WWII. One of the underlying reasons for this was national security, the cold war (preventing the Soviets from having access to these scientists, etc.), and the list goes on. The fundamental basis though, was great fear, during those times, and the desire to have an edge for self defense at all costs.

If anyone is interested, there is a book on this subject, written by a former trial attorney for the U.S. Justice Dept. Office of Special Investigations. This attorney was in a position to investigate, and he did. Very disturbing stuff. The book is entitled, "The Belarus Secret", by Loftus. I believe it is out of print, but used copies are available. I bought mine from amazon marketplace, when I purchased "Lab 257". "The Belarus Secret" is not about bioweapons. It's subtitled, "The Nazi Connection in America".

- Jane

Subject: Re: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum IslandTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 4:32 PM

I agree. I saw it on Youtube, part 1-4 after someone mentioned it. I don't have trutv. Very good piece. I'm sure the real and total info on the place would blow us all away. They said over 13,000 or so bioweapon labs are now operating, many more unmarked. Man makes mistakes--consantly. Do these people really believe accidents and bad things aren't going to happen? I'm told Univ. of MN has a secret lyme bioweapon lab running.

What the ___ was the US doing hiring this Nazi "dr" (right under Hiemler)? Why wasn't he on a war trial?\

This country is pretty self-destructive a good deal of the time. Monster animals and monster humanoids washing ashore near Plum Island and all the lyme.

Yet we have no power to know what is really going on.

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:25:09 AMSubject: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum Island

I know that this program was aired before, but I never saw it until last night. Ventura brings up a good point. Why are we paying the salaries of people to work at this facility and then not know exactly what they are doing? He made a compelling case for Lyme disease originating from Plum Island. The Nazi Scientist Traub who was brought over after world war II to work in the lab was purposely infecting tics with diseases. It never ceases to amaze me that these scientists think that they can play God. Once Pandora's box is open, you can't close it again. This trend is truly scary. Now they want to move this lab to Kansas where much of our food is grown.

[Guest guest]

There was a covert campaign for allowing ex-Nazi scientists into the U.S. after WWII. One of the underlying reasons for this was national security, the cold war (preventing the Soviets from having access to these scientists, etc.), and the list goes on. The fundamental basis though, was great fear, during those times, and the desire to have an edge for self defense at all costs.

If anyone is interested, there is a book on this subject, written by a former trial attorney for the U.S. Justice Dept. Office of Special Investigations. This attorney was in a position to investigate, and he did. Very disturbing stuff. The book is entitled, "The Belarus Secret", by Loftus. I believe it is out of print, but used copies are available. I bought mine from amazon marketplace, when I purchased "Lab 257". "The Belarus Secret" is not about bioweapons. It's subtitled, "The Nazi Connection in America".

- Jane

Subject: Re: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum IslandTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 4:32 PM

I agree. I saw it on Youtube, part 1-4 after someone mentioned it. I don't have trutv. Very good piece. I'm sure the real and total info on the place would blow us all away. They said over 13,000 or so bioweapon labs are now operating, many more unmarked. Man makes mistakes--consantly. Do these people really believe accidents and bad things aren't going to happen? I'm told Univ. of MN has a secret lyme bioweapon lab running.

What the ___ was the US doing hiring this Nazi "dr" (right under Hiemler)? Why wasn't he on a war trial?\

This country is pretty self-destructive a good deal of the time. Monster animals and monster humanoids washing ashore near Plum Island and all the lyme.

Yet we have no power to know what is really going on.

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:25:09 AMSubject: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum Island

I know that this program was aired before, but I never saw it until last night. Ventura brings up a good point. Why are we paying the salaries of people to work at this facility and then not know exactly what they are doing? He made a compelling case for Lyme disease originating from Plum Island. The Nazi Scientist Traub who was brought over after world war II to work in the lab was purposely infecting tics with diseases. It never ceases to amaze me that these scientists think that they can play God. Once Pandora's box is open, you can't close it again. This trend is truly scary. Now they want to move this lab to Kansas where much of our food is grown.

[Guest guest]

There was a covert campaign for allowing ex-Nazi scientists into the U.S. after WWII. One of the underlying reasons for this was national security, the cold war (preventing the Soviets from having access to these scientists, etc.), and the list goes on. The fundamental basis though, was great fear, during those times, and the desire to have an edge for self defense at all costs.

If anyone is interested, there is a book on this subject, written by a former trial attorney for the U.S. Justice Dept. Office of Special Investigations. This attorney was in a position to investigate, and he did. Very disturbing stuff. The book is entitled, "The Belarus Secret", by Loftus. I believe it is out of print, but used copies are available. I bought mine from amazon marketplace, when I purchased "Lab 257". "The Belarus Secret" is not about bioweapons. It's subtitled, "The Nazi Connection in America".

- Jane

Subject: Re: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum IslandTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 4:32 PM

I agree. I saw it on Youtube, part 1-4 after someone mentioned it. I don't have trutv. Very good piece. I'm sure the real and total info on the place would blow us all away. They said over 13,000 or so bioweapon labs are now operating, many more unmarked. Man makes mistakes--consantly. Do these people really believe accidents and bad things aren't going to happen? I'm told Univ. of MN has a secret lyme bioweapon lab running.

What the ___ was the US doing hiring this Nazi "dr" (right under Hiemler)? Why wasn't he on a war trial?\

This country is pretty self-destructive a good deal of the time. Monster animals and monster humanoids washing ashore near Plum Island and all the lyme.

Yet we have no power to know what is really going on.

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:25:09 AMSubject: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum Island

I know that this program was aired before, but I never saw it until last night. Ventura brings up a good point. Why are we paying the salaries of people to work at this facility and then not know exactly what they are doing? He made a compelling case for Lyme disease originating from Plum Island. The Nazi Scientist Traub who was brought over after world war II to work in the lab was purposely infecting tics with diseases. It never ceases to amaze me that these scientists think that they can play God. Once Pandora's box is open, you can't close it again. This trend is truly scary. Now they want to move this lab to Kansas where much of our food is grown.

[Guest guest]

interesting stuff. still amazing. thanks.

Tom

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 7:10:54 AMSubject: Re: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum Island

There was a covert campaign for allowing ex-Nazi scientists into the U.S. after WWII. One of the underlying reasons for this was national security, the cold war (preventing the Soviets from having access to these scientists, etc.), and the list goes on. The fundamental basis though, was great fear, during those times, and the desire to have an edge for self defense at all costs.

If anyone is interested, there is a book on this subject, written by a former trial attorney for the U.S. Justice Dept. Office of Special Investigations. This attorney was in a position to investigate, and he did. Very disturbing stuff. The book is entitled, "The Belarus Secret", by Loftus. I believe it is out of print, but used copies are available. I bought mine from amazon marketplace, when I purchased "Lab 257". "The Belarus Secret" is not about bioweapons. It's subtitled, "The Nazi Connection in America".

- Jane

Subject: Re: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum IslandTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 4:32 PM

I agree. I saw it on Youtube, part 1-4 after someone mentioned it. I don't have trutv. Very good piece. I'm sure the real and total info on the place would blow us all away. They said over 13,000 or so bioweapon labs are now operating, many more unmarked. Man makes mistakes--consantly. Do these people really believe accidents and bad things aren't going to happen? I'm told Univ. of MN has a secret lyme bioweapon lab running.

What the ___ was the US doing hiring this Nazi "dr" (right under Hiemler)? Why wasn't he on a war trial?\

This country is pretty self-destructive a good deal of the time. Monster animals and monster humanoids washing ashore near Plum Island and all the lyme.

Yet we have no power to know what is really going on.

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:25:09 AMSubject: Ventura Conspiracy Theory on Plum Island

I know that this program was aired before, but I never saw it until last night. Ventura brings up a good point. Why are we paying the salaries of people to work at this facility and then not know exactly what they are doing? He made a compelling case for Lyme disease originating from Plum Island. The Nazi Scientist Traub who was brought over after world war II to work in the lab was purposely infecting tics with diseases. It never ceases to amaze me that these scientists think that they can play God. Once Pandora's box is open, you can't close it again. This trend is truly scary. Now they want to move this lab to Kansas where much of our food is grown.

[Guest guest]

Lab 257 is a really good read. Actually it is no surprise that there is not

more written evidence to support Lyme originating at the lab. They are

obviously going to destroy anything that could open them up to massive law

suits. However, there are enough former employees of the lab who have come

forward to make the theory pretty credible. I also don't see this

circumstantial evidence as a giant leap at all. If you study the science behind

Mycoplasma Fermentens and Lyme, Dr Garth Nicholson says that: The AIDS pathogen

was created out of a Brucella bacterium mutated with a visna virus; then the

toxin was removed as a DNA particle called a mycoplasma. They used the same

mycoplasma to develop disabling diseases like MS, Crohn's colitis, Lyme disease,

etc. Dr Nicholson says that it is easy to look at all of these diseases and know

that they have been manipulated with DNA from other Bacteria such as Brucella.

Dr Nicholson says that foreign DNA would not appear in a naturally occuring

organism. These bacteria are weaponized and it is no coincidence that the first

outbreak of Lyme disease was discovered right across the water from Plum Island

in Lyme, Connecticutt.

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night. Ventura brings up a good point. Why are we paying the salaries of

people to work at this facility and then not know exactly what they are doing?

He made a compelling case for Lyme disease originating from Plum Island. The

Nazi Scientist Traub who was brought over after world war II to work in the lab

was purposely infecting tics with diseases. It never ceases to amaze me that

these scientists think that they can play God. Once Pandora's box is open, you

can't close it again. This trend is truly scary. Now they want to move this

lab to Kansas where much of our food is grown.

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[Guest guest]

Lab 257 is a really good read. Actually it is no surprise that there is not

more written evidence to support Lyme originating at the lab. They are

obviously going to destroy anything that could open them up to massive law

suits. However, there are enough former employees of the lab who have come

forward to make the theory pretty credible. I also don't see this

circumstantial evidence as a giant leap at all. If you study the science behind

Mycoplasma Fermentens and Lyme, Dr Garth Nicholson says that: The AIDS pathogen

was created out of a Brucella bacterium mutated with a visna virus; then the

toxin was removed as a DNA particle called a mycoplasma. They used the same

mycoplasma to develop disabling diseases like MS, Crohn's colitis, Lyme disease,

etc. Dr Nicholson says that it is easy to look at all of these diseases and know

that they have been manipulated with DNA from other Bacteria such as Brucella.

Dr Nicholson says that foreign DNA would not appear in a naturally occuring

organism. These bacteria are weaponized and it is no coincidence that the first

outbreak of Lyme disease was discovered right across the water from Plum Island

in Lyme, Connecticutt.

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> > I know that this program was aired before, but I never saw it until last

night. Ventura brings up a good point. Why are we paying the salaries of

people to work at this facility and then not know exactly what they are doing?

He made a compelling case for Lyme disease originating from Plum Island. The

Nazi Scientist Traub who was brought over after world war II to work in the lab

was purposely infecting tics with diseases. It never ceases to amaze me that

these scientists think that they can play God. Once Pandora's box is open, you

can't close it again. This trend is truly scary. Now they want to move this

lab to Kansas where much of our food is grown.

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[Guest guest]

Those passages appear in a number of government conspiracy websites. If

Nicholson has these beliefs it is only opinion, not fact. Some websites say

there are docutments that prove these theories, but no copies are provided, nor

are there explanations as to how these allegations are documented. I'm not

saying they are not true, I'm just saying they are not proven.

I agree that Lab 257 is an excellent read. The guy put a ton of work into it

and makes suggestions on how to make the situation better.

Actually the government wouldn't be open to law suits. Generally the government

is exempt from lawsuits no matter how bad the conduct unless it is allowed by

statute.

Dan

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> > > I know that this program was aired before, but I never saw it until last

night. Ventura brings up a good point. Why are we paying the salaries of

people to work at this facility and then not know exactly what they are doing?

He made a compelling case for Lyme disease originating from Plum Island. The

Nazi Scientist Traub who was brought over after world war II to work in the lab

was purposely infecting tics with diseases. It never ceases to amaze me that

these scientists think that they can play God. Once Pandora's box is open, you

can't close it again. This trend is truly scary. Now they want to move this

lab to Kansas where much of our food is grown.

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[Guest guest]

More on Dr Garth Nicholson, the Microbiologist who founded the Institute of

Molecular Medicine. The Government is asking Dr. Nicholson to train other

doctors on how to deal with Mycoplasma Fermentens

http://www.ncf-net.org/forum/nicholson.htm

Also if you Google Dr Garth Nicholson and the Institute of Molecular Medicine,

you will find a ton of articles on the weaponization of bacteria. Dr Nicholson

is not some fly by night conspiracy theorist, he is a scientist who is highly

respected. BTW his wife is also a doctor.

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> > > > > I know that this program was aired before, but I never saw it until

last night. Ventura brings up a good point. Why are we paying the

salaries of people to work at this facility and then not know exactly what they

are doing? He made a compelling case for Lyme disease originating from Plum

Island. The Nazi Scientist Traub who was brought over after world war II to

work in the lab was purposely infecting tics with diseases. It never ceases to

amaze me that these scientists think that they can play God. Once Pandora's box

is open, you can't close it again. This trend is truly scary. Now they want to

move this lab to Kansas where much of our food is grown.

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