Re: The kindness extended to all creatures....

[Guest guest]

>I enjoy watching Animal Planet and I love my pets. They give me that

>unconditional love that I seek.

same here..mother always accused me of loving my animals more than her..but

why wouldn't I ?? they never judged me, they never got mad without a

reason...and they totally accepted me as I was :-)

>When the experts went in and made changes in

>the animal's environment, the animal's behaviors improved and they

got better.

yes, but there are some things that animls will never get over. I have a

dwarf malamute I got as an 8 month old pup. He spent his early life in a

kennel..he was never abused, but he also wasn't socialized so he has issues

...he's now 4 years old, and we've had him a long time, but there are things

he still can't handle because he wasn't exposed to it as a young pup...he

has improved a lot, and we feel safe taking him with us when we travel, but

he's no where near as friendly to others as his sister, who we got at 9

weeks...

>So it made me wonder, people viewing the Animal Planet show wouldn't

think twice about making choices to help these people's pets, yet

>those same people will try and make us feel guilty for saving

ourselves.

I think thats because BPs can hide it so well, outsiders just can't

comprehend the magnatude/horror/fear of what we went through Sometimes it's

easier to help animal than humans...not sure why that is, though

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Amen--BP's hide it well, and many times the survivors do too.

I was thinking that if everytime my nada or np husband said something

abusive to me would have shown up on my physical body as a bruise, I

would look battered. People would say no contact or just leave them

both.

Those scars however, just built up on my heart and soul....and show

up in the emotional help I seek to stay healthy.

Thanks for your thoughts....keep loving your pets, its sounds like

your one pet is getting better. Hopefully like we all are!

It is a process.

Malinda :-)

>

> >I enjoy watching Animal Planet and I love my pets. They give me

that

> >unconditional love that I seek.

>

> same here..mother always accused me of loving my animals more than

her..but

> why wouldn't I ?? they never judged me, they never got mad without

a

> reason...and they totally accepted me as I was :-)

>

> >When the experts went in and made changes in

> >the animal's environment, the animal's behaviors improved and they

> got better.

>

> yes, but there are some things that animls will never get over. I

have a

> dwarf malamute I got as an 8 month old pup. He spent his early

life in a

> kennel..he was never abused, but he also wasn't socialized so he

has issues

> ..he's now 4 years old, and we've had him a long time, but there

are things

> he still can't handle because he wasn't exposed to it as a young

pup...he

> has improved a lot, and we feel safe taking him with us when we

travel, but

> he's no where near as friendly to others as his sister, who we got

at 9

> weeks...

>

> >So it made me wonder, people viewing the Animal Planet show

wouldn't

> think twice about making choices to help these people's pets, yet

> >those same people will try and make us feel guilty for saving

> ourselves.

>

> I think thats because BPs can hide it so well, outsiders just can't

> comprehend the magnatude/horror/fear of what we went through

Sometimes it's

> easier to help animal than humans...not sure why that is, though

>

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

>I was thinking that if everytime my nada or np husband said something

abusive to me would have shown up on my physical body as a bruise, I

>would look battered. People would say no contact or just leave them

both.

>Those scars however, just built up on my heart and soul....and show

>up in the emotional help I seek to stay healthy.

Oh, yes, I totally agree..if it was something everyone could SEE the damage,

that would make all the difference in the world ..

Jackie

[Guest guest]

o migosh. i have always had a gift with animals long as i remember.

to this day " unsociable " dogs will aproach me. We had a pom when i

was born. and several dogs in my childhood that were always there for

me. Th love was alwas there and unconditional. I have never fogotten

this. Of course i grew up and got heavily involved in animal rescue,

humane sociey and doing shelter walks. I have rehabed dozens

of " unworthy hounds " people just throw away. Right now i have a 13

year old mini dauchsund in my lap. A year ago she had been tossed out

in the streets and wandered for weeks perhaps months. Animal control

picked her up and a mutual friend contacted me about her plight. she

had no teeth and was a skeleton. No one wanted to adopt. But I did!

she is the sweetest angel. My fuzzy little antidepressant. I have

some more dogs too but save for another posting. If there is anything

to fill your empty lives with love its working with rescue dogs.

C

>

> >I enjoy watching Animal Planet and I love my pets. They give me

that

> >unconditional love that I seek.

>

> same here..mother always accused me of loving my animals more than

her..but

> why wouldn't I ?? they never judged me, they never got mad without

a

> reason...and they totally accepted me as I was :-)

>

> >When the experts went in and made changes in

> >the animal's environment, the animal's behaviors improved and they

> got better.

>

> yes, but there are some things that animls will never get over. I

have a

> dwarf malamute I got as an 8 month old pup. He spent his early

life in a

> kennel..he was never abused, but he also wasn't socialized so he

has issues

> ..he's now 4 years old, and we've had him a long time, but there

are things

> he still can't handle because he wasn't exposed to it as a young

pup...he

> has improved a lot, and we feel safe taking him with us when we

travel, but

> he's no where near as friendly to others as his sister, who we got

at 9

> weeks...

>

> >So it made me wonder, people viewing the Animal Planet show

wouldn't

> think twice about making choices to help these people's pets, yet

> >those same people will try and make us feel guilty for saving

> ourselves.

>

> I think thats because BPs can hide it so well, outsiders just can't

> comprehend the magnatude/horror/fear of what we went through

Sometimes it's

> easier to help animal than humans...not sure why that is, though

>

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

In my years walking the shelter and serving as board member for a

humane society: There IS a correlation between animal abuse/neglect

and domestic abuse. The things i see them do to animals and i have

worked with the cruelty cases - it will bring tears to your eyes. I

have no doubt these very same people will think nothing of doing the

same to thier own children and spouses. You also see rich well to do

status people mistreat and get rid of their pets as if they were used

garbage. Pets, much like thier own children are status symbols loved

only for thier looks, awards and acomplishiments not WHO they are

inside. The minute they become defective, inconvenient or otherwise

obsolete, out they go.

C

I enjoy watching Animal Planet and I love my pets. They give me that

unconditional love that I seek. same here..mother always accused me

of loving my animals more than her..but why wouldn't I ?? they never

judged me, they never got mad without a reason...and they totally

accepted me as I was :-)

>When the experts went in and made changes in the animal's

environment, the animal's behaviors improved and they got better.

---

yes, but there are some things that animls will never get over. I

have a dwarf malamute I got as an 8 month old pup. He spent his

early life in a kennel..he was never abused, but he also wasn't

socialized so he has issues ..he's now 4 years old, and we've had him

a long time, but there are things he still can't handle because he

wasn't exposed to it as a young pup...he has improved a lot, and we

feel safe taking him with us when we travel, but he's no where near

as friendly to others as his sister, who we got at 9 weeks...

>

> >So it made me wonder, people viewing the Animal Planet show

wouldn't think twice about making choices to help these people's

pets, yet those same people will try and make us feel guilty for

saving ourselves.

---

I think thats because BPs can hide it so well, outsiders just can't

comprehend the magnatude/horror/fear of what we went through

Sometimes it's easier to help animal than humans...not sure why that

is, though

>

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

I love animal rescue it fills an emptiness that no human ever could.

yes i watch animal plant when i get the chance. They are mammals just

like we are and have the same basic emotional needs. Oh the horrible

things you see on the Houston SPCA shows. One thing i can tell you

alot of people watch it and care about the animals but when it comes

down to it they dont really love thier own animals as they should.

The lies they tell, the ways they dump them and the reasons. You get

to where you " read " people and can tell if they are a good adoptive

home for a rescued pet. Its not that much different than the

deceptive manipulations of people who abuse thier spouses and

children. I have a bad case for nearly every personality disorder in

the book. NPDs are the worst cause they convince you they are the

best homes. (we learn to watch for TOO perfect a home in interviews)

And you can bet a pet in home of a BPD is going to be abused mentally

and physically as well and be used as a pawn in family arguments. So

we rescuers look for stable (not perfect) family environments where

love, happiness and security are priorities not control, apearances

and acomplishments. In fact since getting involved in rescue, i've

learned more about the human species than i ever thought possible.

C

I enjoy watching Animal Planet and I love my pets. They give me that

unconditional love that I seek.

This morning I was watching Animal Planet and the show was on helping

animals that had issues. One common thread with these animals was

their physical environment was lacking something they needed to be

happy and healthy. When the experts went in and made changes in the

animal's environment, the animal's behaviors improved and they got

better.

It made me think of us the survivors of the BP's in are lives. We are

truly remarkable people, we rescued ourselves from the unhealthy

environments and made the necessary changes to survivor. Maybe the

change was to be in N/C, limited contact,healthy boundaries,

therapy...whatever it is, we did it. Not everyone in are lives

understand the choices we make, but it doesn't matter, we know what

works for us.

So it made me wonder, people viewing the Animal Planet show wouldn't

think twice about making choices to help these people's pets, yet

those same people will try and make us feel guilty for saving

ourselves.

I guess the same kindness extended to our animals, we must be willing

to extend to everyone, especially ourselves.

Much love and kindness to all of you,

malinda

[Guest guest]

Its kinda strange reading the posts on this topic. My fiance came

into possession of his sister's cat. He was aggressive and would

scratch and bite often. He looks like a main coon, but i'm not sure

if he's full bred. After a while, Andy, my fiance, began telling me

he knew of how his sister would treat this cat, Scamp. And, of

course, after hearing and meeting his sister several times, I'm

suspicious of her having bpd. Andy's told me she would leave him

alone with a big bowl of water and food for days or put him in the

closet when he's bad. She thought it would be funny to put him in the

drier for a couple of seconds. Yes, he ran out fast. I watched her

play this shoe game with him that she use to play with him when she

came over. Scamp was under the dresser and she stuck a shoe in his

face and he swatted it like he was pissed and she thought that was

funny. I can not stick a shoe or foot in his face cuz he gets

defensive and will attack. I understand why now. There are so many

things like this that Scamp reacts to violently and i just have

sympathy for him. He always has to sniff your hand before a petting,

even if you are the only one home and you were sitting next to him for

the past hour. Scamp has his lovey moments, but he has to come to me.

Andy is having trouble understanding, but he's getting more scratches

than i am. I feel i'm working on a lot here. me, mom, Scamp, Andy.

*sigh* but i am NOT letting Andy's sister get Scamp back and Andy agrees.

felicia

>

> I enjoy watching Animal Planet and I love my pets. They give me that

> unconditional love that I seek.

>

> This morning I was watching Animal Planet and the show was on

> helping animals that had issues. One common thread with these animals

> was their physical environment was lacking something they needed to

> be happy and healthy. When the experts went in and made changes in

> the animal's environment, the animal's behaviors improved and they

> got better.

>

> It made me think of us the survivors of the BP's in are lives. We are

> truly remarkable people, we rescued ourselves from the unhealthy

> environments and made the necessary changes to survivor. Maybe the

> change was to be in N/C, limited contact,healthy boundaries,

> therapy...whatever it is, we did it. Not everyone in are lives

> understand the choices we make, but it doesn't matter, we know what

> works for us.

>

> So it made me wonder, people viewing the Animal Planet show wouldn't

> think twice about making choices to help these people's pets, yet

> those same people will try and make us feel guilty for saving

> ourselves.

>

> I guess the same kindness extended to our animals, we must be willing

> to extend to everyone, especially ourselves.

>

> Much love and kindness to all of you,

> malinda

>

[Guest guest]

I too love rescued pets and only have rescued pets. Read that as 5 cats and two

dogs. One of my dogs was about to be put down because she was " so bad " no one

could containe her and she kept being returned. The shelter decided to give her

" one more chance " with me. I could tell in her eyes and body language that her

only problem was that she had been beaten and never loved. So, I re-parented

her. Each night i took her into bed with me and put her right up against my

skin like the mother dogs do. I took her to the shelter two months later and

they got this horrible look on there faces and said, " Your bringing her back? "

My response " Are you crazy she is the best dog I have ever owned " May be as

Adult Children Of, we just understnad these poor sad little creatures.

Lilly

Cristie Maure wrote:

I love animal rescue it fills an emptiness that no human ever could.

yes i watch animal plant when i get the chance. They are mammals just

like we are and have the same basic emotional needs. Oh the horrible

things you see on the Houston SPCA shows. One thing i can tell you

alot of people watch it and care about the animals but when it comes

down to it they dont really love thier own animals as they should.

The lies they tell, the ways they dump them and the reasons. You get

to where you " read " people and can tell if they are a good adoptive

home for a rescued pet. Its not that much different than the

deceptive manipulations of people who abuse thier spouses and

children. I have a bad case for nearly every personality disorder in

the book. NPDs are the worst cause they convince you they are the

best homes. (we learn to watch for TOO perfect a home in interviews)

And you can bet a pet in home of a BPD is going to be abused mentally

and physically as well and be used as a pawn in family arguments. So

we rescuers look for stable (not perfect) family environments where

love, happiness and security are priorities not control, apearances

and acomplishments. In fact since getting involved in rescue, i've

learned more about the human species than i ever thought possible.

C

I enjoy watching Animal Planet and I love my pets. They give me that

unconditional love that I seek.

This morning I was watching Animal Planet and the show was on helping

animals that had issues. One common thread with these animals was

their physical environment was lacking something they needed to be

happy and healthy. When the experts went in and made changes in the

animal's environment, the animal's behaviors improved and they got

better.

It made me think of us the survivors of the BP's in are lives. We are

truly remarkable people, we rescued ourselves from the unhealthy

environments and made the necessary changes to survivor. Maybe the

change was to be in N/C, limited contact,healthy boundaries,

therapy...whatever it is, we did it. Not everyone in are lives

understand the choices we make, but it doesn't matter, we know what

works for us.

So it made me wonder, people viewing the Animal Planet show wouldn't

think twice about making choices to help these people's pets, yet

those same people will try and make us feel guilty for saving

ourselves.

I guess the same kindness extended to our animals, we must be willing

to extend to everyone, especially ourselves.

Much love and kindness to all of you,

malinda

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[Guest guest]

i completely agree. my husband and i have two darling pit bulls, both

rescued. our male was very timid and sad, had obviously been abused

and in many fights. when i met him for the first time he cowered and

growled at me....it didn't take him very long to be one of the

happiest and funniest, most social dog i've ever known. he LOVES to

have guests at the house and he's always putting on a show with his

female companion. our girl wasn't abused but she was about to be put

in the pound since her homeless owner came down with terminal lung

cancer. we swooped her up and quickly she became best friends with our

male.

i have always rescued animals and i've done a lot of volunteer work in

shelters. something about animals and their unconditional love - and

being able to really understand their pain. maybe we as KO's are drawn

to these squishy, lovable creatures because we have the ability to see

and believe that change is possible with the help of love and compassion.

i feel like crying! (but good, happy tears...)

love,

christine.

>

> I enjoy watching Animal Planet and I love my pets. They give me that

> unconditional love that I seek.

>

> This morning I was watching Animal Planet and the show was on

> helping animals that had issues. One common thread with these animals

> was their physical environment was lacking something they needed to

> be happy and healthy. When the experts went in and made changes in

> the animal's environment, the animal's behaviors improved and they

> got better.

>

> It made me think of us the survivors of the BP's in are lives. We are

> truly remarkable people, we rescued ourselves from the unhealthy

> environments and made the necessary changes to survivor. Maybe the

> change was to be in N/C, limited contact,healthy boundaries,

> therapy...whatever it is, we did it. Not everyone in are lives

> understand the choices we make, but it doesn't matter, we know what

> works for us.

>

> So it made me wonder, people viewing the Animal Planet show wouldn't

> think twice about making choices to help these people's pets, yet

> those same people will try and make us feel guilty for saving

> ourselves.

>

> I guess the same kindness extended to our animals, we must be willing

> to extend to everyone, especially ourselves.

>

> Much love and kindness to all of you,

> malinda

>

[Guest guest]

I totally agree with you about the animals. When I was a kid and

wasn't allowed to eat, my cat would come with a big rat, wondering why

I didn't eat it. They just understand. They don't know the reason we

may be upset, and i don't think they want to. They just understand and

love. My mada used to say " you love that *blank* too much. It's the

only thing that makes you smile. " anywhere from one to three days

later, it would be missing or dead somehow. She's killed hundreds of

animals. Of course, she denies it, but it's obvious, and she's written

a letter to someone saying what she planned to do.

It's funny how they see our love to animals as a threat.

I'm now a college educated animal nurse.

Nothing gives me more gratification than helping an animal of any type.

> >

> > >I enjoy watching Animal Planet and I love my pets. They give me

> that

> > >unconditional love that I seek.

> >

> > same here..mother always accused me of loving my animals more than

> her..but

> > why wouldn't I ?? they never judged me, they never got mad without

> a

> > reason...and they totally accepted me as I was :-)

> >

> > >When the experts went in and made changes in

> > >the animal's environment, the animal's behaviors improved and they

> > got better.

> >

> > yes, but there are some things that animls will never get over. I

> have a

> > dwarf malamute I got as an 8 month old pup. He spent his early

> life in a

> > kennel..he was never abused, but he also wasn't socialized so he

> has issues

> > ..he's now 4 years old, and we've had him a long time, but there

> are things

> > he still can't handle because he wasn't exposed to it as a young

> pup...he

> > has improved a lot, and we feel safe taking him with us when we

> travel, but

> > he's no where near as friendly to others as his sister, who we got

> at 9

> > weeks...

> >

> > >So it made me wonder, people viewing the Animal Planet show

> wouldn't

> > think twice about making choices to help these people's pets, yet

> > >those same people will try and make us feel guilty for saving

> > ourselves.

> >

> > I think thats because BPs can hide it so well, outsiders just can't

> > comprehend the magnatude/horror/fear of what we went through

> Sometimes it's

> > easier to help animal than humans...not sure why that is, though

> >

> > Jackie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

sniff ...you all are the greatest. Animal rescue and work. I read

through all these posts made me so happy that other people feel the

same kindness towards gods creatures. Not only that you all actually

extend your hearts and homes out to them.

They do fill an emptiness in our lives. We see these creatures in need.

standing by doing nothing is what most people do but WE did something.

We made a difference.

Dog Bless you!

... and for feline lovers:

Cats off to you!

Cristie

[Guest guest]

sniff ...you all are the greatest. Animal rescue and work. I read

through all these posts made me so happy that other people feel the

same kindness towards gods creatures. Not only that you all actually

extend your hearts and homes out to them.

They do fill an emptiness in our lives. We see these creatures in need.

standing by doing nothing is what most people do but WE did something.

We made a difference.

Dog Bless you!

... and for feline lovers:

Cats off to you!

Cristie

[Guest guest]

What a precious story. I had one like that. A foster chi-dox " India "

was morbidy shy. was fozen in fear and no one adopted her form the

ound. I HAD to bail her out. She laid in her cage for two days. I

would pick her up and keep holding her like you did yours - even

though she did nothing. This went on four more days. Then one day i

put her down in the yard to pee. She did her thang and then looked up

at me and wagged her tail! There was a ways more to go - worked with

her alot getting her to overcome fears. Short trips to Petco to let

the nice kids pet her. Then an outing to the Weiner dog races. (she

was kept safely in her crate) India was adopted by a family just

right for her. It took a few days with them too but she warmed up and

is inseperable from the daughter.

I love your taking back to shelter story. Fortunately we got a very

good shelter that cooperates with rescue and is willing to work with

us on a " difficult " dog. Every year for Xmas they - a municipal city

shelter- throws a party and invites all the owners and dogs adopted

from them.

What is sad we cant save them all. But for many many dogs staying at

the shelter is probably the best three days of thier lives.

Cristie

..

>

> I enjoy watching Animal Planet and I love my pets. They give me

that

> unconditional love that I seek.

>

> This morning I was watching Animal Planet and the show was on

helping

> animals that had issues. One common thread with these animals was

> their physical environment was lacking something they needed to be

> happy and healthy. When the experts went in and made changes in the

> animal's environment, the animal's behaviors improved and they got

> better.

>

> It made me think of us the survivors of the BP's in are lives. We

are

> truly remarkable people, we rescued ourselves from the unhealthy

> environments and made the necessary changes to survivor. Maybe the

> change was to be in N/C, limited contact,healthy boundaries,

> therapy...whatever it is, we did it. Not everyone in are lives

> understand the choices we make, but it doesn't matter, we know what

> works for us.

>

> So it made me wonder, people viewing the Animal Planet show

wouldn't

> think twice about making choices to help these people's pets, yet

> those same people will try and make us feel guilty for saving

> ourselves.

>

> I guess the same kindness extended to our animals, we must be

willing

> to extend to everyone, especially ourselves.

>

> Much love and kindness to all of you,

> malinda

>

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