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Hi Debra,

Did your son read about the MP in 's book, "Top Ten Treatments"? That book is 5 years old. Some elements contained in it, are outdated.

There is much more feedback data on the MP now, than at the time of the publishing of "Top Ten Treatments". It is the one protocol to avoid at all costs. People have reported very severe consequences from the MP. And evidence shows that it will not cure chronic Lyme and co's.

Ideally, rifing should not be done along with abx, as abx drives active spirochetes into cyst form, and rife cannot reach them. If one's bacterial load is extremely high, and one cannot function, then reducing it temporarily, with abx (pharma or herbal), may be helpful. All pharma abx will encyst active spirochetes - this is the theory (there is proof, in vitro, from Lyme researchers at Stony Brook U). Dormant cysts cannot be reached by rife or abx. Flagyl, as an effective cyst-buster, is a myth.

does not know that the MP will eliminate the L-form of Lyme - that information is false. I can state that catagorically, as fact, because NO ONE KNOWS what will eliminate the L-form. Not even top researchers know that. My advice is if your son is very keen on trying the MP, have him email personally, to get his take on it, now. I'm not sure what currently thinks of the MP. But if he was the one who influenced your son, it's important to get current information. Your son can contact at: theskyking@...

I would add, that supplementing with Vitamin D, while doing the Marshall Protocol, is contradictory, and I have never heard of anyone doing this type of "adjustment" of the protocol. If your son wants to take benicar with minocycline, etc., I'd say - skip the benicar, and take the minocycline. Minocycline may be somewhat effective in reducing the bacterial load. It will encyst spirochetes, that will reproduce later on, when they become active. Benicar is dangerous to take along with abx. Please advise your son that it's not just the lack of vitamin D that got many people into trouble with the MP.

As for killing Bb - Stolar recently told me that he knows of no one who was not able to eliminate Lyme with the coil machine. Please tell your son to follow the posts of rifers in this group. No one here is using the MP. Many people are using the coil machine and other rife-type devices. Some also use herbal antimircobials (some are on pharma abx, most are not), and other alternative treatments.

- Jane

Subject: Newbie: Intro and questionsTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:31 AM

Hi,My name is n and I am located in Australia. In March 2009 I wasdiagnosed with ALS. However, just this past week I have been diagnosedwith Lyme. This is the first Lyme test that I have had, so I am hopingthat it is the entire cause of my ALS. Up until last week I thought Ionly had six months to live, but now there is hope that the deathsentence is no more.My LLMD doctor has started me on antibiotics. He thinks that I will beon them for around two years.Before I went to the doctor, I didn't think that the likelihood of mehaving Lyme was much at all. But now with the positive test, I havebeen looking into Lyme all week, trying to learn as much as I can.The picture that is being painted in my mind, is that antibiotics is

themain treatment for Lyme. But I have also read in many places that afterone, two or three years of antibiotics and an ending of symptoms, thatmany people relapse back into their Lyme symptoms six to twelve monthsafter stopping treatment. I have also read in many places that Rifetreatment, especially using the coil can be very effective at treatingLyme and those that do use it mostly don't have the problems withrelapses.So based on the picture in my mind, I have a few questions that I hope Imight find answers for in this group:-1. How successful is Rife treatment for treating Lyme? Does it helponly a few, or do most get benefit from it?2. Is it really long lasting, thus avoiding relapses?3. Do you Rife while still on antibiotics?4. How often do you treat yourself?5. Is only "coiling' necessary, or is it good to use a

combination of"coil" and "contact" Rife treatment?6. I am a technician and have access to most of the components Ibelieve that would be required to build a Rife machine. Is theresomewhere on the web where I can go to get details on the specifics onhow to build one? Diagrams, schematics, construction details, etc.7. Any other info that would be useful would be greatly appreciated.Many thanks for allowing me to join this group. I feel at home already!(But don't worry, I won't put my feet on the sofa!)- n------------------------------------If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme then please put an OT: in the subject line. -------------------------------

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Hi Debra,

One other thing you might want to take into consideration. is not

entirely over Lyme, though he is fairly functional, he is still having to

actively rife for Lyme. My guess is that the Marshall Protocol encysted a lot

of Spirochetes and he is now dealing with the cysts becoming active. Several

people have told me that is still fighting Lyme. If I remember right, (I

read his book 5 years ago,) he went on a long course of abx and has done the

Marshall protocol. I think you should email him and find out his current take

on the MP as well as if the Marshall protocol cured his Lyme.

>

>

>

> Subject: Newbie: Intro and questions

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:31 AM

>

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is n and I am located in Australia.  In March 2009 I was

> diagnosed with ALS.  However, just this past week I have been diagnosed

> with Lyme.  This is the first Lyme test that I have had, so I am hoping

> that it is the entire cause of my ALS.   Up until last week I thought I

> only had six months to live, but now there is hope that the death

> sentence is no more.

>

> My LLMD doctor has started me on antibiotics.  He thinks that I will be

> on them for around two years.

>

> Before I went to the doctor, I didn't think that the likelihood of me

> having Lyme was much at all.  But now with the positive test, I have

> been looking into Lyme all week, trying to learn as much as I can.

>

> The picture that is being painted in my mind, is that antibiotics is the

> main treatment for Lyme.  But I have also read in many places that after

> one, two or three years of antibiotics and an ending of symptoms, that

> many people relapse back into their Lyme symptoms six to twelve months

> after stopping treatment.   I have also read in many places that Rife

> treatment, especially using the coil can be very effective at treating

> Lyme and those that do use it mostly don't have the problems with

> relapses.

>

> So based on the picture in my mind, I have a few questions that I hope I

> might find answers for in this group:-

>

> 1.   How successful is Rife treatment for treating Lyme?  Does it help

> only a few, or do most get benefit from it?

> 2.  Is it really long lasting, thus avoiding relapses?

> 3.  Do you Rife while still on antibiotics?

> 4.  How often do you treat yourself?

> 5.  Is only " coiling' necessary, or is it good to use a combination of

> " coil " and " contact " Rife treatment?

> 6.  I am a technician and have access to most of the components I

> believe that would be required to build a Rife machine.  Is there

> somewhere on the web where I can go to get details on the specifics on

> how to build one? Diagrams, schematics, construction details, etc.

> 7.  Any other info that would be useful would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Many thanks for allowing me to join this group.  I feel at home already!

> (But don't worry, I won't put my feet on the sofa!)

>

> - n

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme

then please put an OT: in the subject line.

>

> -------------------------------

>

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Hi Debra,

One other thing you might want to take into consideration. is not

entirely over Lyme, though he is fairly functional, he is still having to

actively rife for Lyme. My guess is that the Marshall Protocol encysted a lot

of Spirochetes and he is now dealing with the cysts becoming active. Several

people have told me that is still fighting Lyme. If I remember right, (I

read his book 5 years ago,) he went on a long course of abx and has done the

Marshall protocol. I think you should email him and find out his current take

on the MP as well as if the Marshall protocol cured his Lyme.

>

>

>

> Subject: Newbie: Intro and questions

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:31 AM

>

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is n and I am located in Australia.  In March 2009 I was

> diagnosed with ALS.  However, just this past week I have been diagnosed

> with Lyme.  This is the first Lyme test that I have had, so I am hoping

> that it is the entire cause of my ALS.   Up until last week I thought I

> only had six months to live, but now there is hope that the death

> sentence is no more.

>

> My LLMD doctor has started me on antibiotics.  He thinks that I will be

> on them for around two years.

>

> Before I went to the doctor, I didn't think that the likelihood of me

> having Lyme was much at all.  But now with the positive test, I have

> been looking into Lyme all week, trying to learn as much as I can.

>

> The picture that is being painted in my mind, is that antibiotics is the

> main treatment for Lyme.  But I have also read in many places that after

> one, two or three years of antibiotics and an ending of symptoms, that

> many people relapse back into their Lyme symptoms six to twelve months

> after stopping treatment.   I have also read in many places that Rife

> treatment, especially using the coil can be very effective at treating

> Lyme and those that do use it mostly don't have the problems with

> relapses.

>

> So based on the picture in my mind, I have a few questions that I hope I

> might find answers for in this group:-

>

> 1.   How successful is Rife treatment for treating Lyme?  Does it help

> only a few, or do most get benefit from it?

> 2.  Is it really long lasting, thus avoiding relapses?

> 3.  Do you Rife while still on antibiotics?

> 4.  How often do you treat yourself?

> 5.  Is only " coiling' necessary, or is it good to use a combination of

> " coil " and " contact " Rife treatment?

> 6.  I am a technician and have access to most of the components I

> believe that would be required to build a Rife machine.  Is there

> somewhere on the web where I can go to get details on the specifics on

> how to build one? Diagrams, schematics, construction details, etc.

> 7.  Any other info that would be useful would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Many thanks for allowing me to join this group.  I feel at home already!

> (But don't worry, I won't put my feet on the sofa!)

>

> - n

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme

then please put an OT: in the subject line.

>

> -------------------------------

>

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Thank you so much to both of you, and Jane, for taking the time to tell us all this. We both have Lyme, and your advice is invaluable. Yes, we read about the MP in "The Top 10 ", and on the MP site, but I have had severe reservations about it and am well aware that Vit D is an essential nutrient. Thank you again.

We have both used non-pharm abxs for a while -- Samentto, Niacin, teasle root, ionic silver etc, -- I got feverish, muscle aches etc, but after 10 days each one stopped bringing any herx at all -- so we felt stuck.

I am relieved to hear that rifing seems to be the way forward. I have also spoken to Stolar on the phone and ordered his coil machine.

Is there anyone out there who knows that rifing with the coil machine has cleaned up their Lyme completely? Am I being unrealistic -- is it just too soon to tell?

Thanks again,

Debra

Newbie: Intro and questions> To: Lyme_and_Rife > Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:31 AM> > > Hi,> > My name is n and I am located in Australia. In March 2009 I was> diagnosed with ALS. However, just this past week I have been diagnosed> with Lyme. This is the first Lyme test that I have had, so I am hoping> that it is the entire cause of my ALS. Up until last week I thought I> only had six months to live, but now there is hope that the death> sentence is no more.> > My LLMD doctor has started me on antibiotics. He thinks that I will be> on them for around two years.> > Before I went to the doctor, I didn't think that the likelihood of me> having Lyme was much at all. But now with the positive test, I have> been looking into Lyme all week, trying to learn as much as I can.> > The picture that is being painted in my mind, is that antibiotics is the> main treatment for Lyme. But I have also read in many places that after> one, two or three years of antibiotics and an ending of symptoms, that> many people relapse back into their Lyme symptoms six to twelve months> after stopping treatment. I have also read in many places that Rife> treatment, especially using the coil can be very effective at treating> Lyme and those that do use it mostly don't have the problems with> relapses.> > So based on the picture in my mind, I have a few questions that I hope I> might find answers for in this group:-> > 1. How successful is Rife treatment for treating Lyme? Does it help> only a few, or do most get benefit from it?> 2. Is it really long lasting, thus avoiding relapses?> 3. Do you Rife while still on antibiotics?> 4. How often do you treat yourself?> 5. Is only "coiling' necessary, or is it good to use a combination of> "coil" and "contact" Rife treatment?> 6. I am a technician and have access to most of the components I> believe that would be required to build a Rife machine. Is there> somewhere on the web where I can go to get details on the specifics on> how to build one? Diagrams, schematics, construction details, etc.> 7. Any other info that would be useful would be greatly appreciated.> > Many thanks for allowing me to join this group. I feel at home already!> (But don't worry, I won't put my feet on the sofa!)> > - n> > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme then please put an OT: in the subject line. > > ------------------------------->

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Thank you so much to both of you, and Jane, for taking the time to tell us all this. We both have Lyme, and your advice is invaluable. Yes, we read about the MP in "The Top 10 ", and on the MP site, but I have had severe reservations about it and am well aware that Vit D is an essential nutrient. Thank you again.

We have both used non-pharm abxs for a while -- Samentto, Niacin, teasle root, ionic silver etc, -- I got feverish, muscle aches etc, but after 10 days each one stopped bringing any herx at all -- so we felt stuck.

I am relieved to hear that rifing seems to be the way forward. I have also spoken to Stolar on the phone and ordered his coil machine.

Is there anyone out there who knows that rifing with the coil machine has cleaned up their Lyme completely? Am I being unrealistic -- is it just too soon to tell?

Thanks again,

Debra

Newbie: Intro and questions> To: Lyme_and_Rife > Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:31 AM> > > Hi,> > My name is n and I am located in Australia. In March 2009 I was> diagnosed with ALS. However, just this past week I have been diagnosed> with Lyme. This is the first Lyme test that I have had, so I am hoping> that it is the entire cause of my ALS. Up until last week I thought I> only had six months to live, but now there is hope that the death> sentence is no more.> > My LLMD doctor has started me on antibiotics. He thinks that I will be> on them for around two years.> > Before I went to the doctor, I didn't think that the likelihood of me> having Lyme was much at all. But now with the positive test, I have> been looking into Lyme all week, trying to learn as much as I can.> > The picture that is being painted in my mind, is that antibiotics is the> main treatment for Lyme. But I have also read in many places that after> one, two or three years of antibiotics and an ending of symptoms, that> many people relapse back into their Lyme symptoms six to twelve months> after stopping treatment. I have also read in many places that Rife> treatment, especially using the coil can be very effective at treating> Lyme and those that do use it mostly don't have the problems with> relapses.> > So based on the picture in my mind, I have a few questions that I hope I> might find answers for in this group:-> > 1. How successful is Rife treatment for treating Lyme? Does it help> only a few, or do most get benefit from it?> 2. Is it really long lasting, thus avoiding relapses?> 3. Do you Rife while still on antibiotics?> 4. How often do you treat yourself?> 5. Is only "coiling' necessary, or is it good to use a combination of> "coil" and "contact" Rife treatment?> 6. I am a technician and have access to most of the components I> believe that would be required to build a Rife machine. Is there> somewhere on the web where I can go to get details on the specifics on> how to build one? Diagrams, schematics, construction details, etc.> 7. Any other info that would be useful would be greatly appreciated.> > Many thanks for allowing me to join this group. I feel at home already!> (But don't worry, I won't put my feet on the sofa!)> > - n> > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme then please put an OT: in the subject line. > > ------------------------------->

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