Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Hi Ron, Your post is very inspiring!!! Actually I am very frustrated with my results currently but I have decided to stick to BFL no matter what! Actually me and my girlfriend have been on BFL for the last 5 months now and sadly I have only lost 10-12 pounds in all these months and whats even sadder is that my girlfriend has not lost any weight at all !!!! Its really frustrating. We are doing everything we are supoosed to do and she is not losing any weight! She is very frustrated and she keeps reading these magazines where they show photos of women who lost so many pounds over 6 months and she gets all the more upset. I mean 5 months of hardwork and no results IS very disappointing. I read hussman.org resgularly, over and over again and I enter our daily food intake on fitday.com religiously, to keep track of calories and believe me, the way the numbers show up , she should be losing at least a pound a week. But in reality she is not losing any weight. Even with my intake , according to hussman.org , I should be losing 1.5 pounds a week but I am barely losing a pound a month!! I dont know whats wrong! I was 202-204 pounds when I started and I am at 188-189 pounds right now and my weight is just not coming off. Same is the case with body fat. My body fat is also not decreasing as fast as it should. Although I am hell bent on making BFL work and I intend to stick with this plan, I cannot say the same for my girlfriend. I feel that if she doesnt see any results soon , she might quit..and I wont blame her. Even Bill says in the book that if something is not working for you even after 3 months then you oughta change the plan. What are we doing wrong here ??? We eat 6 small meals and we workout in the evenings. We do give 3 hours between our last meal and our aerobic workout and we also wait at least 1 hour after our workout to take our next meal. We have not been pigging out extensively on the free day either. So I really have nothing left to convince her with... She is 152 pounds and would love it even she just lost 10 pounds. While I realise that weight comes off faster if you are really overweight i,e greater than say 250 lbs...cos most of it is water retention and will come off as soon as you cut the carbs...It still does not explain why we are not losing as much weight as we are supposed to. Can anyone else chip in with their experience ???Have any of you faced this problem ?? And did you solve it ??? Please help us! As hussman said " Nothing can beat the combination of calorie deficit and intense workouts and you WILL lose weight! " ...well...that means we ARE doing something wrong then , huh??? One thing I read from Ron's post is that I should keep changing my workout so that the body will not adapt to to the workout, cos all we have been doing is jogging on the trademill during our aerobic workouts. If you guys have any other suggestions , please send them!! Thanks Harsh C2W8D5 Hi Bfl'ers My name is Ron I'm 42years and 5'11 I have been a lurking for the past 10 month's. Now that it's Oct. I checked my weight just on the scale (still waiting for the fat calipers to show up) I'm 163lbs. But I came from 248lbs last December and a waist of 44inchs. Now 32 waist 41 chest. 85 lbs gone in 10 months not bad, although I still have some frustrating fat to get off. That will take some more time as I still am learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 I'm not sure if I have any good suggestions, but here are some questions to ask yourself. Has she seen any positive changes? Better sleep? More energy? Strength gains? These might be motivations for continuing? Have you double-checked portion sizes? Perhaps, you are both gaining muscle? Are you truly hitting your 10s? Are you doing the 20 MAS on the treadmill or just jogging? You could also try HIIT for a change. You could also try posting your menus with portion sizes and maybe we could see if there is something there you need to look at. Andy > Hi Ron, > Your post is very inspiring!!! Actually I am very frustrated with my results currently but I have decided to stick to BFL no matter what! Actually me and my girlfriend have been on BFL for the last 5 months now and sadly I have only lost 10-12 pounds in all these months and whats even sadder is that my girlfriend has not lost any weight at all !!!! > > Its really frustrating. We are doing everything we are supoosed to do and she is not losing any weight! She is very frustrated and she keeps reading these magazines where they show photos of women who lost so many pounds over 6 months and she gets all the more upset. I mean 5 months of hardwork and no results IS very disappointing. > > I read hussman.org resgularly, over and over again and I enter our daily food intake on fitday.com religiously, to keep track of calories and believe me, the way the numbers show up , she should be losing at least a pound a week. But in reality she is not losing any weight. Even with my intake , according to hussman.org , I should be losing 1.5 pounds a week but I am barely losing a pound a month!! I dont know whats wrong! > > I was 202-204 pounds when I started and I am at 188-189 pounds right now and my weight is just not coming off. Same is the case with body fat. My body fat is also not decreasing as fast as it should. > > Although I am hell bent on making BFL work and I intend to stick with this plan, I cannot say the same for my girlfriend. I feel that if she doesnt see any results soon , she might quit..and I wont blame her. Even Bill says in the book that if something is not working for you even after 3 months then you oughta change the plan. > > What are we doing wrong here ??? We eat 6 small meals and we workout in the evenings. We do give 3 hours between our last meal and our aerobic workout and we also wait at least 1 hour after our workout to take our next meal. We have not been pigging out extensively on the free day either. So I really have nothing left to convince her with... She is 152 pounds and would love it even she just lost 10 pounds. > > While I realise that weight comes off faster if you are really overweight i,e greater than say 250 lbs...cos most of it is water retention and will come off as soon as you cut the carbs...It still does not explain why we are not losing as much weight as we are supposed to. > > Can anyone else chip in with their experience ???Have any of you faced this problem ?? And did you solve it ??? Please help us! As hussman said " Nothing can beat the combination of calorie deficit and intense workouts and you WILL lose weight! " ...well...that means we ARE doing something wrong then , huh??? > > One thing I read from Ron's post is that I should keep changing my workout so that the body will not adapt to to the workout, cos all we have been doing is jogging on the trademill during our aerobic workouts. > > If you guys have any other suggestions , please send them!! > > Thanks > Harsh > C2W8D5 > Hi Bfl'ers > > > My name is Ron I'm 42years and 5'11 I have been a lurking for the > past 10 month's. Now > that it's Oct. I checked my weight just on the scale (still waiting > for the fat calipers to show up) I'm 163lbs. But I came from 248lbs > last December and a waist of 44inchs. Now 32 waist 41 chest. > 85 lbs gone in 10 months not bad, although I still have some > frustrating fat to get off. That will take some more time as I still > am learning. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 I'm not sure if I have any good suggestions, but here are some questions to ask yourself. Has she seen any positive changes? Better sleep? More energy? Strength gains? These might be motivations for continuing? Have you double-checked portion sizes? Perhaps, you are both gaining muscle? Are you truly hitting your 10s? Are you doing the 20 MAS on the treadmill or just jogging? You could also try HIIT for a change. You could also try posting your menus with portion sizes and maybe we could see if there is something there you need to look at. Andy > Hi Ron, > Your post is very inspiring!!! Actually I am very frustrated with my results currently but I have decided to stick to BFL no matter what! Actually me and my girlfriend have been on BFL for the last 5 months now and sadly I have only lost 10-12 pounds in all these months and whats even sadder is that my girlfriend has not lost any weight at all !!!! > > Its really frustrating. We are doing everything we are supoosed to do and she is not losing any weight! She is very frustrated and she keeps reading these magazines where they show photos of women who lost so many pounds over 6 months and she gets all the more upset. I mean 5 months of hardwork and no results IS very disappointing. > > I read hussman.org resgularly, over and over again and I enter our daily food intake on fitday.com religiously, to keep track of calories and believe me, the way the numbers show up , she should be losing at least a pound a week. But in reality she is not losing any weight. Even with my intake , according to hussman.org , I should be losing 1.5 pounds a week but I am barely losing a pound a month!! I dont know whats wrong! > > I was 202-204 pounds when I started and I am at 188-189 pounds right now and my weight is just not coming off. Same is the case with body fat. My body fat is also not decreasing as fast as it should. > > Although I am hell bent on making BFL work and I intend to stick with this plan, I cannot say the same for my girlfriend. I feel that if she doesnt see any results soon , she might quit..and I wont blame her. Even Bill says in the book that if something is not working for you even after 3 months then you oughta change the plan. > > What are we doing wrong here ??? We eat 6 small meals and we workout in the evenings. We do give 3 hours between our last meal and our aerobic workout and we also wait at least 1 hour after our workout to take our next meal. We have not been pigging out extensively on the free day either. So I really have nothing left to convince her with... She is 152 pounds and would love it even she just lost 10 pounds. > > While I realise that weight comes off faster if you are really overweight i,e greater than say 250 lbs...cos most of it is water retention and will come off as soon as you cut the carbs...It still does not explain why we are not losing as much weight as we are supposed to. > > Can anyone else chip in with their experience ???Have any of you faced this problem ?? And did you solve it ??? Please help us! As hussman said " Nothing can beat the combination of calorie deficit and intense workouts and you WILL lose weight! " ...well...that means we ARE doing something wrong then , huh??? > > One thing I read from Ron's post is that I should keep changing my workout so that the body will not adapt to to the workout, cos all we have been doing is jogging on the trademill during our aerobic workouts. > > If you guys have any other suggestions , please send them!! > > Thanks > Harsh > C2W8D5 > Hi Bfl'ers > > > My name is Ron I'm 42years and 5'11 I have been a lurking for the > past 10 month's. Now > that it's Oct. I checked my weight just on the scale (still waiting > for the fat calipers to show up) I'm 163lbs. But I came from 248lbs > last December and a waist of 44inchs. Now 32 waist 41 chest. > 85 lbs gone in 10 months not bad, although I still have some > frustrating fat to get off. That will take some more time as I still > am learning. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Hi Andy, -> I think in terms of positive changes, I guess the only thing she might have seen is stregth gain.In my case, I see a lot of muscle definition, stregth gain etc. ->Regarding portion sizes, yes, I have kind of become fanatical about portion sizes...I read each and every label to see how much quantity should be had to fit BFL standards.If we are indeed making a mistake , we might be erring on the side of protein, but definitely not on the carb side. ->I am surely gaining SOME muscle but I would like see too some kinda change on the scale too...as for her..even if she were to gain muscle , she surely would lose some fat , dont you think??? ->In weight training I am sure we are at least hitting 9.5s if not 10s...But we are pretty close, I think... ->We are definitely doing 20 MAS to the T....and this is where I am definitely hitting 10s...and this is one of those areas where I have made tremendous improvemnts in speed in last 5 months. ->Posting portion sizes..here's my menu from yesterday : Meal 1 -> Protein shake with 1/2 cup milk(skim) + 1/2 cup water 1 cup cereal + 1/2 cup milk(skim) Meal 2 -> 5 oz chicken breast + sweet potato + veggies (squash,onions,tomatoes) Meal 3 -> 1/2 cup cottage cheese + fatfree yogurt Meal 4 -> 1/2 cup cottage cheese + fatfree yogurt Meal 5 -> Protein shake with 1/2 cup milk(skim) + 1/2 cup water 1 cup cereal + 1/2 cup milk(skim) Meal 6 -> 4-5 oz chicken breast + 1/4 cup beans + salsa Fitday Results : Cals Fat Carb Prot ----------------------- 1533 18 179 170 Thanks for helping out Andy Harsh > > Hi Ron, > > Your post is very inspiring!!! Actually I am very > frustrated with my results currently but I have decided to stick to > BFL no matter what! Actually me and my girlfriend have been on BFL > for the last 5 months now and sadly I have only lost 10-12 pounds in > all these months and whats even sadder is that my girlfriend has not > lost any weight at all !!!! > > > > Its really frustrating. We are doing everything we are > supoosed to do and she is not losing any weight! She is very > frustrated and she keeps reading these magazines where they show > photos of women who lost so many pounds over 6 months and she gets > all the more upset. I mean 5 months of hardwork and no results IS > very disappointing. > > > > I read hussman.org resgularly, over and over again and I enter our > daily food intake on fitday.com religiously, to keep track of > calories and believe me, the way the numbers show up , she should be > losing at least a pound a week. But in reality she is not losing any > weight. Even with my intake , according to hussman.org , I should be > losing 1.5 pounds a week but I am barely losing a pound a month!! I > dont know whats wrong! > > > > I was 202-204 pounds when I started and I am at 188-189 > pounds right now and my weight is just not coming off. Same is the > case with body fat. My body fat is also not decreasing as fast as it > should. > > > > Although I am hell bent on making BFL work and I intend to > stick with this plan, I cannot say the same for my girlfriend. I feel > that if she doesnt see any results soon , she might quit..and I wont > blame her. Even Bill says in the book that if something is > not working for you even after 3 months then you oughta change the > plan. > > > > What are we doing wrong here ??? We eat 6 small meals and we > workout in the evenings. We do give 3 hours between our last meal and > our aerobic workout and we also wait at least 1 hour after our > workout to take our next meal. We have not been pigging out > extensively on the free day either. So I really have nothing left to > convince her with... She is 152 pounds and would love it even she > just lost 10 pounds. > > > > While I realise that weight comes off faster if you are > really overweight i,e greater than say 250 lbs...cos most of it is > water retention and will come off as soon as you cut the carbs...It > still does not explain why we are not losing as much weight as we are > supposed to. > > > > Can anyone else chip in with their experience ???Have any > of you faced this problem ?? And did you solve it ??? Please help us! > As hussman said " Nothing can beat the combination of calorie deficit > and intense workouts and you WILL lose weight! " ...well...that means > we ARE doing something wrong then , huh??? > > > > One thing I read from Ron's post is that I should keep > changing my workout so that the body will not adapt to to the > workout, cos all we have been doing is jogging on the trademill > during our aerobic workouts. > > > > If you guys have any other suggestions , please send > them!! > > > > Thanks > > Harsh > > C2W8D5 > > Hi Bfl'ers > > > > > > My name is Ron I'm 42years and 5'11 I have been a lurking for the > > past 10 month's. Now > > that it's Oct. I checked my weight just on the scale (still > waiting > > for the fat calipers to show up) I'm 163lbs. But I came from > 248lbs > > last December and a waist of 44inchs. Now 32 waist 41 chest. > > 85 lbs gone in 10 months not bad, although I still have some > > frustrating fat to get off. That will take some more time as I > still > > am learning. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Hi Andy, -> I think in terms of positive changes, I guess the only thing she might have seen is stregth gain.In my case, I see a lot of muscle definition, stregth gain etc. ->Regarding portion sizes, yes, I have kind of become fanatical about portion sizes...I read each and every label to see how much quantity should be had to fit BFL standards.If we are indeed making a mistake , we might be erring on the side of protein, but definitely not on the carb side. ->I am surely gaining SOME muscle but I would like see too some kinda change on the scale too...as for her..even if she were to gain muscle , she surely would lose some fat , dont you think??? ->In weight training I am sure we are at least hitting 9.5s if not 10s...But we are pretty close, I think... ->We are definitely doing 20 MAS to the T....and this is where I am definitely hitting 10s...and this is one of those areas where I have made tremendous improvemnts in speed in last 5 months. ->Posting portion sizes..here's my menu from yesterday : Meal 1 -> Protein shake with 1/2 cup milk(skim) + 1/2 cup water 1 cup cereal + 1/2 cup milk(skim) Meal 2 -> 5 oz chicken breast + sweet potato + veggies (squash,onions,tomatoes) Meal 3 -> 1/2 cup cottage cheese + fatfree yogurt Meal 4 -> 1/2 cup cottage cheese + fatfree yogurt Meal 5 -> Protein shake with 1/2 cup milk(skim) + 1/2 cup water 1 cup cereal + 1/2 cup milk(skim) Meal 6 -> 4-5 oz chicken breast + 1/4 cup beans + salsa Fitday Results : Cals Fat Carb Prot ----------------------- 1533 18 179 170 Thanks for helping out Andy Harsh > > Hi Ron, > > Your post is very inspiring!!! Actually I am very > frustrated with my results currently but I have decided to stick to > BFL no matter what! Actually me and my girlfriend have been on BFL > for the last 5 months now and sadly I have only lost 10-12 pounds in > all these months and whats even sadder is that my girlfriend has not > lost any weight at all !!!! > > > > Its really frustrating. We are doing everything we are > supoosed to do and she is not losing any weight! She is very > frustrated and she keeps reading these magazines where they show > photos of women who lost so many pounds over 6 months and she gets > all the more upset. I mean 5 months of hardwork and no results IS > very disappointing. > > > > I read hussman.org resgularly, over and over again and I enter our > daily food intake on fitday.com religiously, to keep track of > calories and believe me, the way the numbers show up , she should be > losing at least a pound a week. But in reality she is not losing any > weight. Even with my intake , according to hussman.org , I should be > losing 1.5 pounds a week but I am barely losing a pound a month!! I > dont know whats wrong! > > > > I was 202-204 pounds when I started and I am at 188-189 > pounds right now and my weight is just not coming off. Same is the > case with body fat. My body fat is also not decreasing as fast as it > should. > > > > Although I am hell bent on making BFL work and I intend to > stick with this plan, I cannot say the same for my girlfriend. I feel > that if she doesnt see any results soon , she might quit..and I wont > blame her. Even Bill says in the book that if something is > not working for you even after 3 months then you oughta change the > plan. > > > > What are we doing wrong here ??? We eat 6 small meals and we > workout in the evenings. We do give 3 hours between our last meal and > our aerobic workout and we also wait at least 1 hour after our > workout to take our next meal. We have not been pigging out > extensively on the free day either. So I really have nothing left to > convince her with... She is 152 pounds and would love it even she > just lost 10 pounds. > > > > While I realise that weight comes off faster if you are > really overweight i,e greater than say 250 lbs...cos most of it is > water retention and will come off as soon as you cut the carbs...It > still does not explain why we are not losing as much weight as we are > supposed to. > > > > Can anyone else chip in with their experience ???Have any > of you faced this problem ?? And did you solve it ??? Please help us! > As hussman said " Nothing can beat the combination of calorie deficit > and intense workouts and you WILL lose weight! " ...well...that means > we ARE doing something wrong then , huh??? > > > > One thing I read from Ron's post is that I should keep > changing my workout so that the body will not adapt to to the > workout, cos all we have been doing is jogging on the trademill > during our aerobic workouts. > > > > If you guys have any other suggestions , please send > them!! > > > > Thanks > > Harsh > > C2W8D5 > > Hi Bfl'ers > > > > > > My name is Ron I'm 42years and 5'11 I have been a lurking for the > > past 10 month's. Now > > that it's Oct. I checked my weight just on the scale (still > waiting > > for the fat calipers to show up) I'm 163lbs. But I came from > 248lbs > > last December and a waist of 44inchs. Now 32 waist 41 chest. > > 85 lbs gone in 10 months not bad, although I still have some > > frustrating fat to get off. That will take some more time as I > still > > am learning. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Andy, Could you post your menu please??? And could you also please tell me your currrent weight and the amount of calories you are taking ??I know , that your goal is muscle gain not fat loss, but it would still be interesting to see if I am eating the wrong stuff. Also , what is the typical weight loss people have seen per challenge ??? Again, I know that as one approaches lower levels of body fat , the fat loss will become even slower... Thanks Harsh > I'm not sure if I have any good suggestions, but here are some > questions to ask yourself. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Andy, Could you post your menu please??? And could you also please tell me your currrent weight and the amount of calories you are taking ??I know , that your goal is muscle gain not fat loss, but it would still be interesting to see if I am eating the wrong stuff. Also , what is the typical weight loss people have seen per challenge ??? Again, I know that as one approaches lower levels of body fat , the fat loss will become even slower... Thanks Harsh > I'm not sure if I have any good suggestions, but here are some > questions to ask yourself. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Hi Harsh, It sure didn't seem like I was setting any records losing weight in the beginning either. Hang in there!! something is happening... if your eating the correct portion sizes,Eating every 2.5 to 3 hours, The Authorized foods and Hitting your 10's. There is something going on believe me it is subtle at times, But then you notice things wow my bench press just went up or the day I ran a mile in 8.5 mins. Blowing open a new Ron record for my 20min cardio. or I have to tighten this belt again!! Drink lots of water!!! Even beyond 2 glasses per meal I carry around and old 2 liter pop bottle I fill that a couple of times a day. Look over everything, since your writing down everything you eat and everything you do in regards to workouts per the program. Look for success's anything that has changed not just the weight. 2 things I'm doing you mentioned one is work out in the morning. second is riding a stationary bike along with running. Make you goals high enough to make you stretch yourself as to not slip into a comport zone. sorry for being so long, but I was here where you are right now Harsh. Post some of your meals You two will succeed I can tell from your determination Ron > Hi Ron, > Your post is very inspiring!!! Actually I am very frustrated with my results currently but I have decided to stick to BFL no matter what! Actually me and my girlfriend have been on BFL for the last 5 months now and sadly I have only lost 10-12 pounds in all these months and whats even sadder is that my girlfriend has not lost any weight at all !!!! > > Its really frustrating. We are doing everything we are supoosed to do and she is not losing any weight! She is very frustrated and she keeps reading these magazines where they show photos of women who lost so many pounds over 6 months and she gets all the more upset. I mean 5 months of hardwork and no results IS very disappointing. > > I read hussman.org resgularly, over and over again and I enter our daily food intake on fitday.com religiously, to keep track of calories and believe me, the way the numbers show up , she should be losing at least a pound a week. But in reality she is not losing any weight. Even with my intake , according to hussman.org , I should be losing 1.5 pounds a week but I am barely losing a pound a month!! I dont know whats wrong! > > I was 202-204 pounds when I started and I am at 188-189 pounds right now and my weight is just not coming off. Same is the case with body fat. My body fat is also not decreasing as fast as it should. > > Although I am hell bent on making BFL work and I intend to stick with this plan, I cannot say the same for my girlfriend. I feel that if she doesnt see any results soon , she might quit..and I wont blame her. Even Bill says in the book that if something is not working for you even after 3 months then you oughta change the plan. > > What are we doing wrong here ??? We eat 6 small meals and we workout in the evenings. We do give 3 hours between our last meal and our aerobic workout and we also wait at least 1 hour after our workout to take our next meal. We have not been pigging out extensively on the free day either. So I really have nothing left to convince her with... She is 152 pounds and would love it even she just lost 10 pounds. > > While I realise that weight comes off faster if you are really overweight i,e greater than say 250 lbs...cos most of it is water retention and will come off as soon as you cut the carbs...It still does not explain why we are not losing as much weight as we are supposed to. > > Can anyone else chip in with their experience ???Have any of you faced this problem ?? And did you solve it ??? Please help us! As hussman said " Nothing can beat the combination of calorie deficit and intense workouts and you WILL lose weight! " ...well...that means we ARE doing something wrong then , huh??? > > One thing I read from Ron's post is that I should keep changing my workout so that the body will not adapt to to the workout, cos all we have been doing is jogging on the trademill during our aerobic workouts. > > If you guys have any other suggestions , please send them!! > > Thanks > Harsh > C2W8D5 > Hi Bfl'ers > > > My name is Ron I'm 42years and 5'11 I have been a lurking for the > past 10 month's. Now > that it's Oct. I checked my weight just on the scale (still waiting > for the fat calipers to show up) I'm 163lbs. But I came from 248lbs > last December and a waist of 44inchs. Now 32 waist 41 chest. > 85 lbs gone in 10 months not bad, although I still have some > frustrating fat to get off. That will take some more time as I still > am learning. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Hi Harsh, It sure didn't seem like I was setting any records losing weight in the beginning either. Hang in there!! something is happening... if your eating the correct portion sizes,Eating every 2.5 to 3 hours, The Authorized foods and Hitting your 10's. There is something going on believe me it is subtle at times, But then you notice things wow my bench press just went up or the day I ran a mile in 8.5 mins. Blowing open a new Ron record for my 20min cardio. or I have to tighten this belt again!! Drink lots of water!!! Even beyond 2 glasses per meal I carry around and old 2 liter pop bottle I fill that a couple of times a day. Look over everything, since your writing down everything you eat and everything you do in regards to workouts per the program. Look for success's anything that has changed not just the weight. 2 things I'm doing you mentioned one is work out in the morning. second is riding a stationary bike along with running. Make you goals high enough to make you stretch yourself as to not slip into a comport zone. sorry for being so long, but I was here where you are right now Harsh. Post some of your meals You two will succeed I can tell from your determination Ron > Hi Ron, > Your post is very inspiring!!! Actually I am very frustrated with my results currently but I have decided to stick to BFL no matter what! Actually me and my girlfriend have been on BFL for the last 5 months now and sadly I have only lost 10-12 pounds in all these months and whats even sadder is that my girlfriend has not lost any weight at all !!!! > > Its really frustrating. We are doing everything we are supoosed to do and she is not losing any weight! She is very frustrated and she keeps reading these magazines where they show photos of women who lost so many pounds over 6 months and she gets all the more upset. I mean 5 months of hardwork and no results IS very disappointing. > > I read hussman.org resgularly, over and over again and I enter our daily food intake on fitday.com religiously, to keep track of calories and believe me, the way the numbers show up , she should be losing at least a pound a week. But in reality she is not losing any weight. Even with my intake , according to hussman.org , I should be losing 1.5 pounds a week but I am barely losing a pound a month!! I dont know whats wrong! > > I was 202-204 pounds when I started and I am at 188-189 pounds right now and my weight is just not coming off. Same is the case with body fat. My body fat is also not decreasing as fast as it should. > > Although I am hell bent on making BFL work and I intend to stick with this plan, I cannot say the same for my girlfriend. I feel that if she doesnt see any results soon , she might quit..and I wont blame her. Even Bill says in the book that if something is not working for you even after 3 months then you oughta change the plan. > > What are we doing wrong here ??? We eat 6 small meals and we workout in the evenings. We do give 3 hours between our last meal and our aerobic workout and we also wait at least 1 hour after our workout to take our next meal. We have not been pigging out extensively on the free day either. So I really have nothing left to convince her with... She is 152 pounds and would love it even she just lost 10 pounds. > > While I realise that weight comes off faster if you are really overweight i,e greater than say 250 lbs...cos most of it is water retention and will come off as soon as you cut the carbs...It still does not explain why we are not losing as much weight as we are supposed to. > > Can anyone else chip in with their experience ???Have any of you faced this problem ?? And did you solve it ??? Please help us! As hussman said " Nothing can beat the combination of calorie deficit and intense workouts and you WILL lose weight! " ...well...that means we ARE doing something wrong then , huh??? > > One thing I read from Ron's post is that I should keep changing my workout so that the body will not adapt to to the workout, cos all we have been doing is jogging on the trademill during our aerobic workouts. > > If you guys have any other suggestions , please send them!! > > Thanks > Harsh > C2W8D5 > Hi Bfl'ers > > > My name is Ron I'm 42years and 5'11 I have been a lurking for the > past 10 month's. Now > that it's Oct. I checked my weight just on the scale (still waiting > for the fat calipers to show up) I'm 163lbs. But I came from 248lbs > last December and a waist of 44inchs. Now 32 waist 41 chest. > 85 lbs gone in 10 months not bad, although I still have some > frustrating fat to get off. That will take some more time as I still > am learning. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 >What are we doing wrong here ??? We eat 6 small meals and we workout in the evenings. We do give 3 hours between our last meal and our aerobic workout and we also wait at least 1 hour after our workout to take our next meal. We have not been pigging out extensively on the free day either. So I really have nothing left to convince her with... She is 152 pounds and would love it even she just lost 10 pounds. I'm doing a lower-carbohydrate version of the BFL eating plan - still eating 6 meals per day, but instead of cutting out the fat, I cut out the carbs - and only have high carbohydrate foods on my " free day " . EAS makes a number of low-carb options - Carb Control Advantage Shakes and Meal Replacement Bars and their whey protein powder is low-carb too. It's not uncommon for women to be a little more insulin-resistant than men (because of high estrogen levels), and many of us fine that reduces carbohydrate does the trick. Fawn > While I realise that weight comes off faster if you are really overweight i,e greater than say 250 lbs...cos most of it is water retention and will come off as soon as you cut the carbs...It still does not explain why we are not losing as much weight as we are supposed to. > > Can anyone else chip in with their experience ???Have any of you faced this problem ?? And did you solve it ??? Please help us! As hussman said " Nothing can beat the combination of calorie deficit and intense workouts and you WILL lose weight! " ...well...that means we ARE doing something wrong then , huh??? > > One thing I read from Ron's post is that I should keep changing my workout so that the body will not adapt to to the workout, cos all we have been doing is jogging on the trademill during our aerobic workouts. > > If you guys have any other suggestions , please send them!! > > Thanks > Harsh > C2W8D5 > Hi Bfl'ers > > > My name is Ron I'm 42years and 5'11 I have been a lurking for the > past 10 month's. Now > that it's Oct. I checked my weight just on the scale (still waiting > for the fat calipers to show up) I'm 163lbs. But I came from 248lbs > last December and a waist of 44inchs. Now 32 waist 41 chest. > 85 lbs gone in 10 months not bad, although I still have some > frustrating fat to get off. That will take some more time as I still > am learning. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 >What are we doing wrong here ??? We eat 6 small meals and we workout in the evenings. We do give 3 hours between our last meal and our aerobic workout and we also wait at least 1 hour after our workout to take our next meal. We have not been pigging out extensively on the free day either. So I really have nothing left to convince her with... She is 152 pounds and would love it even she just lost 10 pounds. I'm doing a lower-carbohydrate version of the BFL eating plan - still eating 6 meals per day, but instead of cutting out the fat, I cut out the carbs - and only have high carbohydrate foods on my " free day " . EAS makes a number of low-carb options - Carb Control Advantage Shakes and Meal Replacement Bars and their whey protein powder is low-carb too. It's not uncommon for women to be a little more insulin-resistant than men (because of high estrogen levels), and many of us fine that reduces carbohydrate does the trick. Fawn > While I realise that weight comes off faster if you are really overweight i,e greater than say 250 lbs...cos most of it is water retention and will come off as soon as you cut the carbs...It still does not explain why we are not losing as much weight as we are supposed to. > > Can anyone else chip in with their experience ???Have any of you faced this problem ?? And did you solve it ??? Please help us! As hussman said " Nothing can beat the combination of calorie deficit and intense workouts and you WILL lose weight! " ...well...that means we ARE doing something wrong then , huh??? > > One thing I read from Ron's post is that I should keep changing my workout so that the body will not adapt to to the workout, cos all we have been doing is jogging on the trademill during our aerobic workouts. > > If you guys have any other suggestions , please send them!! > > Thanks > Harsh > C2W8D5 > Hi Bfl'ers > > > My name is Ron I'm 42years and 5'11 I have been a lurking for the > past 10 month's. Now > that it's Oct. I checked my weight just on the scale (still waiting > for the fat calipers to show up) I'm 163lbs. But I came from 248lbs > last December and a waist of 44inchs. Now 32 waist 41 chest. > 85 lbs gone in 10 months not bad, although I still have some > frustrating fat to get off. That will take some more time as I still > am learning. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 >What are we doing wrong here ??? We eat 6 small meals and we workout in the evenings. We do give 3 hours between our last meal and our aerobic workout and we also wait at least 1 hour after our workout to take our next meal. We have not been pigging out extensively on the free day either. So I really have nothing left to convince her with... She is 152 pounds and would love it even she just lost 10 pounds. I'm doing a lower-carbohydrate version of the BFL eating plan - still eating 6 meals per day, but instead of cutting out the fat, I cut out the carbs - and only have high carbohydrate foods on my " free day " . EAS makes a number of low-carb options - Carb Control Advantage Shakes and Meal Replacement Bars and their whey protein powder is low-carb too. It's not uncommon for women to be a little more insulin-resistant than men (because of high estrogen levels), and many of us fine that reduces carbohydrate does the trick. Fawn > While I realise that weight comes off faster if you are really overweight i,e greater than say 250 lbs...cos most of it is water retention and will come off as soon as you cut the carbs...It still does not explain why we are not losing as much weight as we are supposed to. > > Can anyone else chip in with their experience ???Have any of you faced this problem ?? And did you solve it ??? Please help us! As hussman said " Nothing can beat the combination of calorie deficit and intense workouts and you WILL lose weight! " ...well...that means we ARE doing something wrong then , huh??? > > One thing I read from Ron's post is that I should keep changing my workout so that the body will not adapt to to the workout, cos all we have been doing is jogging on the trademill during our aerobic workouts. > > If you guys have any other suggestions , please send them!! > > Thanks > Harsh > C2W8D5 > Hi Bfl'ers > > > My name is Ron I'm 42years and 5'11 I have been a lurking for the > past 10 month's. Now > that it's Oct. I checked my weight just on the scale (still waiting > for the fat calipers to show up) I'm 163lbs. But I came from 248lbs > last December and a waist of 44inchs. Now 32 waist 41 chest. > 85 lbs gone in 10 months not bad, although I still have some > frustrating fat to get off. That will take some more time as I still > am learning. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 As for your menu, I don't think you are eating too much for 188 lbs to lose fat. I wouldn't go any lower caloriewise. However, I think your fat intake may be too low. There is 9 calories per gm of fat so 18 gm of fat is 162 calories from fat which is only 10.6% of total daily calories from fat. If you eat too little fat, your body can go into starvation mode, hang onto your fat stores, and you won't lose fat. I would add 1 tbsp UDOs oil or flax oil to your diet. That would add 14 gm fat and get your fat intake up to 17.6%. What does everyone else think? Is his fat intake of 10.6% too low? Andy > Hi Andy, > > ->Posting portion sizes..here's my menu from yesterday : > > Meal 1 -> Protein shake with 1/2 cup milk(skim) + 1/2 cup water > 1 cup cereal + 1/2 cup milk(skim) > Meal 2 -> 5 oz chicken breast + sweet potato + veggies > (squash,onions,tomatoes) > > Meal 3 -> 1/2 cup cottage cheese + fatfree yogurt > > Meal 4 -> 1/2 cup cottage cheese + fatfree yogurt > > Meal 5 -> Protein shake with 1/2 cup milk(skim) + 1/2 cup water > 1 cup cereal + 1/2 cup milk(skim) > > Meal 6 -> 4-5 oz chicken breast + 1/4 cup beans + salsa > > > Fitday Results : > Cals Fat Carb Prot > ----------------------- > 1533 18 179 170 > > > Thanks for helping out Andy > > Harsh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 As for your menu, I don't think you are eating too much for 188 lbs to lose fat. I wouldn't go any lower caloriewise. However, I think your fat intake may be too low. There is 9 calories per gm of fat so 18 gm of fat is 162 calories from fat which is only 10.6% of total daily calories from fat. If you eat too little fat, your body can go into starvation mode, hang onto your fat stores, and you won't lose fat. I would add 1 tbsp UDOs oil or flax oil to your diet. That would add 14 gm fat and get your fat intake up to 17.6%. What does everyone else think? Is his fat intake of 10.6% too low? Andy > Hi Andy, > > ->Posting portion sizes..here's my menu from yesterday : > > Meal 1 -> Protein shake with 1/2 cup milk(skim) + 1/2 cup water > 1 cup cereal + 1/2 cup milk(skim) > Meal 2 -> 5 oz chicken breast + sweet potato + veggies > (squash,onions,tomatoes) > > Meal 3 -> 1/2 cup cottage cheese + fatfree yogurt > > Meal 4 -> 1/2 cup cottage cheese + fatfree yogurt > > Meal 5 -> Protein shake with 1/2 cup milk(skim) + 1/2 cup water > 1 cup cereal + 1/2 cup milk(skim) > > Meal 6 -> 4-5 oz chicken breast + 1/4 cup beans + salsa > > > Fitday Results : > Cals Fat Carb Prot > ----------------------- > 1533 18 179 170 > > > Thanks for helping out Andy > > Harsh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 As for your menu, I don't think you are eating too much for 188 lbs to lose fat. I wouldn't go any lower caloriewise. However, I think your fat intake may be too low. There is 9 calories per gm of fat so 18 gm of fat is 162 calories from fat which is only 10.6% of total daily calories from fat. If you eat too little fat, your body can go into starvation mode, hang onto your fat stores, and you won't lose fat. I would add 1 tbsp UDOs oil or flax oil to your diet. That would add 14 gm fat and get your fat intake up to 17.6%. What does everyone else think? Is his fat intake of 10.6% too low? Andy > Hi Andy, > > ->Posting portion sizes..here's my menu from yesterday : > > Meal 1 -> Protein shake with 1/2 cup milk(skim) + 1/2 cup water > 1 cup cereal + 1/2 cup milk(skim) > Meal 2 -> 5 oz chicken breast + sweet potato + veggies > (squash,onions,tomatoes) > > Meal 3 -> 1/2 cup cottage cheese + fatfree yogurt > > Meal 4 -> 1/2 cup cottage cheese + fatfree yogurt > > Meal 5 -> Protein shake with 1/2 cup milk(skim) + 1/2 cup water > 1 cup cereal + 1/2 cup milk(skim) > > Meal 6 -> 4-5 oz chicken breast + 1/4 cup beans + salsa > > > Fitday Results : > Cals Fat Carb Prot > ----------------------- > 1533 18 179 170 > > > Thanks for helping out Andy > > Harsh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Here's my menu for today. I'm currently 165 lbs and today was a cardio day. On weight-training days, I have about 200 more calories. This week is more of a fat loss week. I would eat about 500 more calories per week for muscle gain. Post workout meal-protein powder shake, 1 tbsp flax oil (240 cal) M1-Oatmeal, protein powder, peanut butter (320 cal) M2-1 c low fat cottage cheese, 1 lg apple (240 cal) M3-2 slices whole wheat toast, 5 oz tuna, veggie mix lettuce, 1 tsp olive oil (320 cal) M4-1 c low fat cottage cheese, 1 lg apple (240 cal) M5-Turkey Chili, contains (4-oz lean ground turkey, corn, beans, seasoning) (320 cal) M6-1/2 Myoplex, 1/2 c cottage cheese, 1/2 tbsp peanut butter (225 cal) Total Calories: 1905 ~Fat=41 gm (19.4%) ~prot=180 gm (37.8%) ~carb=204 gm (42.8%) I don't think you are eating the wrong stuff, but I think you aren't getting enough fat. Notice the little opportunities (flax oil, peanut butter, olive oil) I took to add fat to my meals since many of them are low fat. Andy > > I'm not sure if I have any good suggestions, but here are some > > questions to ask yourself. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Here's my menu for today. I'm currently 165 lbs and today was a cardio day. On weight-training days, I have about 200 more calories. This week is more of a fat loss week. I would eat about 500 more calories per week for muscle gain. Post workout meal-protein powder shake, 1 tbsp flax oil (240 cal) M1-Oatmeal, protein powder, peanut butter (320 cal) M2-1 c low fat cottage cheese, 1 lg apple (240 cal) M3-2 slices whole wheat toast, 5 oz tuna, veggie mix lettuce, 1 tsp olive oil (320 cal) M4-1 c low fat cottage cheese, 1 lg apple (240 cal) M5-Turkey Chili, contains (4-oz lean ground turkey, corn, beans, seasoning) (320 cal) M6-1/2 Myoplex, 1/2 c cottage cheese, 1/2 tbsp peanut butter (225 cal) Total Calories: 1905 ~Fat=41 gm (19.4%) ~prot=180 gm (37.8%) ~carb=204 gm (42.8%) I don't think you are eating the wrong stuff, but I think you aren't getting enough fat. Notice the little opportunities (flax oil, peanut butter, olive oil) I took to add fat to my meals since many of them are low fat. Andy > > I'm not sure if I have any good suggestions, but here are some > > questions to ask yourself. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Here's my menu for today. I'm currently 165 lbs and today was a cardio day. On weight-training days, I have about 200 more calories. This week is more of a fat loss week. I would eat about 500 more calories per week for muscle gain. Post workout meal-protein powder shake, 1 tbsp flax oil (240 cal) M1-Oatmeal, protein powder, peanut butter (320 cal) M2-1 c low fat cottage cheese, 1 lg apple (240 cal) M3-2 slices whole wheat toast, 5 oz tuna, veggie mix lettuce, 1 tsp olive oil (320 cal) M4-1 c low fat cottage cheese, 1 lg apple (240 cal) M5-Turkey Chili, contains (4-oz lean ground turkey, corn, beans, seasoning) (320 cal) M6-1/2 Myoplex, 1/2 c cottage cheese, 1/2 tbsp peanut butter (225 cal) Total Calories: 1905 ~Fat=41 gm (19.4%) ~prot=180 gm (37.8%) ~carb=204 gm (42.8%) I don't think you are eating the wrong stuff, but I think you aren't getting enough fat. Notice the little opportunities (flax oil, peanut butter, olive oil) I took to add fat to my meals since many of them are low fat. Andy > > I'm not sure if I have any good suggestions, but here are some > > questions to ask yourself. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 I agree. Low fat not only induces a " starvation " mechanism, it also interferes with optimal hormone production. Dropping to 10% or less can actually reduce testosterone levels. Personally I have found that 1 tbsp of flaxseed or some other healthy fat (even olive oil on occassion) along with 1000mg of fish oil caps daily works wonders. > As for your menu, I don't think you are eating too much for 188 lbs > to lose fat. I wouldn't go any lower caloriewise. However, I think > your fat intake may be too low. There is 9 calories per gm of fat so > 18 gm of fat is 162 calories from fat which is only 10.6% of total > daily calories from fat. > > If you eat too little fat, your body can go into starvation mode, > hang onto your fat stores, and you won't lose fat. > > I would add 1 tbsp UDOs oil or flax oil to your diet. That would add > 14 gm fat and get your fat intake up to 17.6%. > > What does everyone else think? Is his fat intake of 10.6% too low? > > Andy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 I agree. Low fat not only induces a " starvation " mechanism, it also interferes with optimal hormone production. Dropping to 10% or less can actually reduce testosterone levels. Personally I have found that 1 tbsp of flaxseed or some other healthy fat (even olive oil on occassion) along with 1000mg of fish oil caps daily works wonders. > As for your menu, I don't think you are eating too much for 188 lbs > to lose fat. I wouldn't go any lower caloriewise. However, I think > your fat intake may be too low. There is 9 calories per gm of fat so > 18 gm of fat is 162 calories from fat which is only 10.6% of total > daily calories from fat. > > If you eat too little fat, your body can go into starvation mode, > hang onto your fat stores, and you won't lose fat. > > I would add 1 tbsp UDOs oil or flax oil to your diet. That would add > 14 gm fat and get your fat intake up to 17.6%. > > What does everyone else think? Is his fat intake of 10.6% too low? > > Andy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 Yes, I would try to aim for 15-20% fat. I take 2 Fish Oil SoftGels per day and those aren't much fat so I also take the flax or UDOs (I alternate). You could add a few nuts as well. Andy > Hi Andy, > I forgot to mention that I also take three softgels of cod liver oil everyday. But every softgel is only 10 calories, so thats 30 more cals in fat. Which may not be enough. Should I add cashews and peanuts to my diet as well ??? I will check the numbers and fit it in my menu from today.Fat %age should be = 20 % right ??? > > Harsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 Yes, I would try to aim for 15-20% fat. I take 2 Fish Oil SoftGels per day and those aren't much fat so I also take the flax or UDOs (I alternate). You could add a few nuts as well. Andy > Hi Andy, > I forgot to mention that I also take three softgels of cod liver oil everyday. But every softgel is only 10 calories, so thats 30 more cals in fat. Which may not be enough. Should I add cashews and peanuts to my diet as well ??? I will check the numbers and fit it in my menu from today.Fat %age should be = 20 % right ??? > > Harsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 I use almonds too as well as other types of nuts on occasion. I also like Mighty-Mo-Munchies soynuts. I haven't found any other soynuts that I find worth eating. Andy > Raw almonds are delicious and I indulge in them regularly. Beside > the healthy fat and protein content, they also contain a good amount > of fiber. Do be careful that you chew them thoroughly though! > > Fawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 I use almonds too as well as other types of nuts on occasion. I also like Mighty-Mo-Munchies soynuts. I haven't found any other soynuts that I find worth eating. Andy > Raw almonds are delicious and I indulge in them regularly. Beside > the healthy fat and protein content, they also contain a good amount > of fiber. Do be careful that you chew them thoroughly though! > > Fawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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