Guest guest Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Hello Harry; here; I just got a new model that keeps a charge for a long time, the charger is attached to a belt I can put on and just wear for about a hour and it is charged and has lights. Mine is a ANS model. I would sejust you contact the service Tech. for advice on this matter , he/her may have a good solution. All my past stimulators has functions for differant settings. There should be a green light on the charger that would let her know it is charged and another that tells her it is charging. We may not have the same unit as they have differant ones for differ people. Positioning the towels for the charger is ok but you might think about medical tape if she could tolarate the removal of the tape. Than she can see if the charge light is solid green and can take it off. My unit can give me a low shock or high and left or right side or both sides. I have it set where it goe's from the hips down to my toes on the same level and leave it on all the time and adjust as needed. I hope this note helpes some and try differant type of tape's and that might make it easier to deal with. If you get the charger set on her and leave just tell her to take it off in a hour and a half and it should be fully charged by than. I hope this helped , God Bless GARY > >________________________________ > > > >Hello , >I am glad to hear the spinal cord stimulator gives you some relief. My Mother just had one implanted for pain related to severe spinal stenosis. She has had good relief with the ability to reduce her need for pain medication. One problem has been recharging the implanted battery. My mother is a little hard of hearing > > > > >To: Stillsdisease >From: proangler56@... >Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:54:15 -0700 >Subject: Stimulator Implant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a Stimulator implant Harry and they work great. I had my first one in 98' and 2 more sence. The batteries run out and you need a replacement. The one I have now will give me 8 more years of battery life. It is a outpatiant operation for the new implants. With the combination of pain management with drugs and the stimulator I still have a degree of cronic pain . The stimulator gives me 40% relief and that is alot. > > > > > >LORD;I AM IN A PRISON...FOR SOMETHING I NEVER DONE...IT'S BEEN ONE HILL AFTER ANOTHER...I'VE CLIMBED THEM ALL...ONE BY ONE > > > >>________________________________ > >> > >>To: stillsdisease > >>Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:04 AM > >>Subject: RE: Back Surgery > >> > >> > >>Hello Gail, > >>A few things to consider regarding surgery. Many patients consider spine surgery a failure if they do not achieve a satisfactory level of pain relief. The absolute percentage of relief of pain unfortunately is hard for a spine surgeon to predict as a result of surgery. Prolonged compression of a nerve particularly small diameter nerve fibers (temperature and pain) can result in chronic scarring such that even after a structurally successful lumbar decompression and fusion there is continued pain. One needs to also consider the possibility that in the absence of surgery the larger nerve fibers carrying balance input and voluntary motor activity do not get permanently injured. The result is progressive numbness, ataxia, and paralysis. A patient with chronic pain following lumbar spine surgery may be a candidate for an implantable spinal cord stimulator for relief of pain. Preservation of sensory and motor function is the primary concern particularly in > >a patient with not unreasonable pre-operative risk factors. > >>Harry S. > >> > >> > >>To: Stillsdisease > >>From: glmrphy@... > >>Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:29:24 -0700 > >>Subject: Re: Back Surgery > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks for posting this, ... I am still undecided about my back, have been thru so much to try and fix my multiple problems and sometimes the pain gets so bad I am ready to tell the doc to sterilize the scalpel, lol... I have vertebral slippage (spondylolisthesis), spine curvature, nerve protrusions and spurs. All located at L-4/L-5 and L-5/S-1... Physical therapy worked until they started traction, which messed it up worse. 32 visits to chiropractor and him finally saying , I've done all I can. Two neurosurgeons (had to get that 2nd opinion!) both agree that if the epidural steroid injections dont help my only option is surgery. They are talking about going in, correctng the curve in my spine and fixing the vertebral slippage, blah, blah... two rods and I can't remember how many screws to hold it all together. > >> > >> > >> > >>So, it was on to the pain clinic for the injections which help some, only temporarily. Only other thing they have suggested is spinal manipulation where I would need to be sedated. That scares me, too. Doc said, please, whatever you do, you are only allowed to walk and swim, that's it, or your spine will slip right off itself. Lovely. > >> > >> > >> > >>So, I take it a day at a time. Want to weigh my options and talk to others (like you) who have good or bad outcomes. For now, I use a cane when it's bad (I can't stand for longer than 5 minutes without holding onto something) and take pain meds (they barely touch it) and hope for the best. However, my husband had C-spine surgery years ago and has done well with the outcome. Guess it all depends... > >> > >> > >> > >>Sorry you are going thru this, and I know your situation is different b/c it was so sudden, hang in there! > >> > >>Gail > >> > >> > >> > >>________________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >>To: " Stillsdisease " <Stillsdisease > > >> > >>Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:14 PM > >> > >>Subject: Back Segury > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Here; > >> > >>I would like to talk to you about my experance with back segury. If one can avoid it please AVOID IT. I had a slipped and cracked L5-S1 vertabra and had bone taken from my hip and fussed 3 vertaba togeather. I also had to have three 6 " rods and 6 screws to hold the rods and vertabra in place. I had to have this operation due to a Harley accident. I hit a car broadside going 50 miles per hour, he did not see me. He pulled out in front of me. My operation was not a question of should I have it done it was have to case or my spinal cord would have been severed. My operation was done as a emergancy . I now have " Failed Back Syndrome " a very cronic condition that will never go away. One can look up this condition on WebMD and you will read what a back operation can leave you with. Now I know some people have miner operations and feel good after but a major invacive operation can leave you in more pain than not having surgery . > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Hi all, > >> > >>>I'm trying not to be depressed but I got my MRI results this week from my cervical spine and the damage is quite extensive with disk buldging at a few places and the with disc pieces up to 7 mm in size breaking off and pressing into my central spinal canal in several places. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Hello , I appreciate all the good advice. I really like the idea of tape and I will try that next. On my mother's unit there is a beeper system. If the charger is near the implanted unit the beeper creates a beeping sound that is not loud enough for her to hear. If the unit is on the correct area to charge the implanted stimulator the beeping sound stops. Again the problem is that my mother's hearing is poor at the frequency level of the beeper. She can not distinguish if the sound is being produced or the sound has stopped. The rep can't change the method the stimulator uses to alert the patient regarding the success of the charging plan while it is occurring. My mother's unit is a Boston Scientific SCS. Thanks, Harry S. To: Stillsdisease From: proangler56@... Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:09:17 -0700 Subject: Stimulator Implant--Harry-GARY Hello Harry; here; I just got a new model that keeps a charge for a long time, the charger is attached to a belt I can put on and just wear for about a hour and it is charged and has lights. Mine is a ANS model. I would sejust you contact the service Tech. for advice on this matter , he/her may have a good solution. All my past stimulators has functions for differant settings. There should be a green light on the charger that would let her know it is charged and another that tells her it is charging. We may not have the same unit as they have differant ones for differ people. Positioning the towels for the charger is ok but you might think about medical tape if she could tolarate the removal of the tape. Than she can see if the charge light is solid green and can take it off. My unit can give me a low shock or high and left or right side or both sides. I have it set where it goe's from the hips down to my toes on the same level and leave it on all the time and adjust as needed. I hope this note helpes some and try differant type of tape's and that might make it easier to deal with. If you get the charger set on her and leave just tell her to take it off in a hour and a half and it should be fully charged by than. I hope this helped , God Bless GARY > >________________________________ > > > >Hello , >I am glad to hear the spinal cord stimulator gives you some relief. My Mother just had one implanted for pain related to severe spinal stenosis. She has had good relief with the ability to reduce her need for pain medication. One problem has been recharging the implanted battery. My mother is a little hard of hearing > > > > >To: Stillsdisease >From: proangler56@... >Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:54:15 -0700 >Subject: Stimulator Implant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a Stimulator implant Harry and they work great. I had my first one in 98' and 2 more sence. The batteries run out and you need a replacement. The one I have now will give me 8 more years of battery life. It is a outpatiant operation for the new implants. With the combination of pain management with drugs and the stimulator I still have a degree of cronic pain . The stimulator gives me 40% relief and that is alot. > > > > > >LORD;I AM IN A PRISON...FOR SOMETHING I NEVER DONE...IT'S BEEN ONE HILL AFTER ANOTHER...I'VE CLIMBED THEM ALL...ONE BY ONE > > > >>________________________________ > >> > >>To: stillsdisease > >>Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:04 AM > >>Subject: RE: Back Surgery > >> > >> > >>Hello Gail, > >>A few things to consider regarding surgery. Many patients consider spine surgery a failure if they do not achieve a satisfactory level of pain relief. The absolute percentage of relief of pain unfortunately is hard for a spine surgeon to predict as a result of surgery. Prolonged compression of a nerve particularly small diameter nerve fibers (temperature and pain) can result in chronic scarring such that even after a structurally successful lumbar decompression and fusion there is continued pain. One needs to also consider the possibility that in the absence of surgery the larger nerve fibers carrying balance input and voluntary motor activity do not get permanently injured. The result is progressive numbness, ataxia, and paralysis. A patient with chronic pain following lumbar spine surgery may be a candidate for an implantable spinal cord stimulator for relief of pain. Preservation of sensory and motor function is the primary concern particularly in > >a patient with not unreasonable pre-operative risk factors. > >>Harry S. > >> > >> > >>To: Stillsdisease > >>From: glmrphy@... > >>Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:29:24 -0700 > >>Subject: Re: Back Surgery > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks for posting this, ... I am still undecided about my back, have been thru so much to try and fix my multiple problems and sometimes the pain gets so bad I am ready to tell the doc to sterilize the scalpel, lol... I have vertebral slippage (spondylolisthesis), spine curvature, nerve protrusions and spurs. All located at L-4/L-5 and L-5/S-1... Physical therapy worked until they started traction, which messed it up worse. 32 visits to chiropractor and him finally saying , I've done all I can. Two neurosurgeons (had to get that 2nd opinion!) both agree that if the epidural steroid injections dont help my only option is surgery. They are talking about going in, correctng the curve in my spine and fixing the vertebral slippage, blah, blah... two rods and I can't remember how many screws to hold it all together. > >> > >> > >> > >>So, it was on to the pain clinic for the injections which help some, only temporarily. Only other thing they have suggested is spinal manipulation where I would need to be sedated. That scares me, too. Doc said, please, whatever you do, you are only allowed to walk and swim, that's it, or your spine will slip right off itself. Lovely. > >> > >> > >> > >>So, I take it a day at a time. Want to weigh my options and talk to others (like you) who have good or bad outcomes. For now, I use a cane when it's bad (I can't stand for longer than 5 minutes without holding onto something) and take pain meds (they barely touch it) and hope for the best. However, my husband had C-spine surgery years ago and has done well with the outcome. Guess it all depends... > >> > >> > >> > >>Sorry you are going thru this, and I know your situation is different b/c it was so sudden, hang in there! > >> > >>Gail > >> > >> > >> > >>________________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >>To: " Stillsdisease " <Stillsdisease > > >> > >>Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:14 PM > >> > >>Subject: Back Segury > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Here; > >> > >>I would like to talk to you about my experance with back segury. If one can avoid it please AVOID IT. I had a slipped and cracked L5-S1 vertabra and had bone taken from my hip and fussed 3 vertaba togeather. I also had to have three 6 " rods and 6 screws to hold the rods and vertabra in place. I had to have this operation due to a Harley accident. I hit a car broadside going 50 miles per hour, he did not see me. He pulled out in front of me. My operation was not a question of should I have it done it was have to case or my spinal cord would have been severed. My operation was done as a emergancy . I now have " Failed Back Syndrome " a very cronic condition that will never go away. One can look up this condition on WebMD and you will read what a back operation can leave you with. Now I know some people have miner operations and feel good after but a major invacive operation can leave you in more pain than not having surgery . > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Hi all, > >> > >>>I'm trying not to be depressed but I got my MRI results this week from my cervical spine and the damage is quite extensive with disk buldging at a few places and the with disc pieces up to 7 mm in size breaking off and pressing into my central spinal canal in several places. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Hello , I appreciate all the good advice. I really like the idea of tape and I will try that next. On my mother's unit there is a beeper system. If the charger is near the implanted unit the beeper creates a beeping sound that is not loud enough for her to hear. If the unit is on the correct area to charge the implanted stimulator the beeping sound stops. Again the problem is that my mother's hearing is poor at the frequency level of the beeper. She can not distinguish if the sound is being produced or the sound has stopped. The rep can't change the method the stimulator uses to alert the patient regarding the success of the charging plan while it is occurring. My mother's unit is a Boston Scientific SCS. Thanks, Harry S. To: Stillsdisease From: proangler56@... Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:09:17 -0700 Subject: Stimulator Implant--Harry-GARY Hello Harry; here; I just got a new model that keeps a charge for a long time, the charger is attached to a belt I can put on and just wear for about a hour and it is charged and has lights. Mine is a ANS model. I would sejust you contact the service Tech. for advice on this matter , he/her may have a good solution. All my past stimulators has functions for differant settings. There should be a green light on the charger that would let her know it is charged and another that tells her it is charging. We may not have the same unit as they have differant ones for differ people. Positioning the towels for the charger is ok but you might think about medical tape if she could tolarate the removal of the tape. Than she can see if the charge light is solid green and can take it off. My unit can give me a low shock or high and left or right side or both sides. I have it set where it goe's from the hips down to my toes on the same level and leave it on all the time and adjust as needed. I hope this note helpes some and try differant type of tape's and that might make it easier to deal with. If you get the charger set on her and leave just tell her to take it off in a hour and a half and it should be fully charged by than. I hope this helped , God Bless GARY > >________________________________ > > > >Hello , >I am glad to hear the spinal cord stimulator gives you some relief. My Mother just had one implanted for pain related to severe spinal stenosis. She has had good relief with the ability to reduce her need for pain medication. One problem has been recharging the implanted battery. My mother is a little hard of hearing > > > > >To: Stillsdisease >From: proangler56@... >Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:54:15 -0700 >Subject: Stimulator Implant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a Stimulator implant Harry and they work great. I had my first one in 98' and 2 more sence. The batteries run out and you need a replacement. The one I have now will give me 8 more years of battery life. It is a outpatiant operation for the new implants. With the combination of pain management with drugs and the stimulator I still have a degree of cronic pain . The stimulator gives me 40% relief and that is alot. > > > > > >LORD;I AM IN A PRISON...FOR SOMETHING I NEVER DONE...IT'S BEEN ONE HILL AFTER ANOTHER...I'VE CLIMBED THEM ALL...ONE BY ONE > > > >>________________________________ > >> > >>To: stillsdisease > >>Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:04 AM > >>Subject: RE: Back Surgery > >> > >> > >>Hello Gail, > >>A few things to consider regarding surgery. Many patients consider spine surgery a failure if they do not achieve a satisfactory level of pain relief. The absolute percentage of relief of pain unfortunately is hard for a spine surgeon to predict as a result of surgery. Prolonged compression of a nerve particularly small diameter nerve fibers (temperature and pain) can result in chronic scarring such that even after a structurally successful lumbar decompression and fusion there is continued pain. One needs to also consider the possibility that in the absence of surgery the larger nerve fibers carrying balance input and voluntary motor activity do not get permanently injured. The result is progressive numbness, ataxia, and paralysis. A patient with chronic pain following lumbar spine surgery may be a candidate for an implantable spinal cord stimulator for relief of pain. Preservation of sensory and motor function is the primary concern particularly in > >a patient with not unreasonable pre-operative risk factors. > >>Harry S. > >> > >> > >>To: Stillsdisease > >>From: glmrphy@... > >>Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:29:24 -0700 > >>Subject: Re: Back Surgery > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks for posting this, ... I am still undecided about my back, have been thru so much to try and fix my multiple problems and sometimes the pain gets so bad I am ready to tell the doc to sterilize the scalpel, lol... I have vertebral slippage (spondylolisthesis), spine curvature, nerve protrusions and spurs. All located at L-4/L-5 and L-5/S-1... Physical therapy worked until they started traction, which messed it up worse. 32 visits to chiropractor and him finally saying , I've done all I can. Two neurosurgeons (had to get that 2nd opinion!) both agree that if the epidural steroid injections dont help my only option is surgery. They are talking about going in, correctng the curve in my spine and fixing the vertebral slippage, blah, blah... two rods and I can't remember how many screws to hold it all together. > >> > >> > >> > >>So, it was on to the pain clinic for the injections which help some, only temporarily. Only other thing they have suggested is spinal manipulation where I would need to be sedated. That scares me, too. Doc said, please, whatever you do, you are only allowed to walk and swim, that's it, or your spine will slip right off itself. Lovely. > >> > >> > >> > >>So, I take it a day at a time. Want to weigh my options and talk to others (like you) who have good or bad outcomes. For now, I use a cane when it's bad (I can't stand for longer than 5 minutes without holding onto something) and take pain meds (they barely touch it) and hope for the best. However, my husband had C-spine surgery years ago and has done well with the outcome. Guess it all depends... > >> > >> > >> > >>Sorry you are going thru this, and I know your situation is different b/c it was so sudden, hang in there! > >> > >>Gail > >> > >> > >> > >>________________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >>To: " Stillsdisease " <Stillsdisease > > >> > >>Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:14 PM > >> > >>Subject: Back Segury > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Here; > >> > >>I would like to talk to you about my experance with back segury. If one can avoid it please AVOID IT. I had a slipped and cracked L5-S1 vertabra and had bone taken from my hip and fussed 3 vertaba togeather. I also had to have three 6 " rods and 6 screws to hold the rods and vertabra in place. I had to have this operation due to a Harley accident. I hit a car broadside going 50 miles per hour, he did not see me. He pulled out in front of me. My operation was not a question of should I have it done it was have to case or my spinal cord would have been severed. My operation was done as a emergancy . I now have " Failed Back Syndrome " a very cronic condition that will never go away. One can look up this condition on WebMD and you will read what a back operation can leave you with. Now I know some people have miner operations and feel good after but a major invacive operation can leave you in more pain than not having surgery . > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Hi all, > >> > >>>I'm trying not to be depressed but I got my MRI results this week from my cervical spine and the damage is quite extensive with disk buldging at a few places and the with disc pieces up to 7 mm in size breaking off and pressing into my central spinal canal in several places. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I understand Harry. I am on my 3rd stimulator and the first one was like that. The one I have now has lights and a belt. Harry , if you take the charger and you find the right spot with " You " doing it, take a black marker and make a circle on her skin, and she can just place it right where you marked it, and have her put tape on it before she try's to place it, and have her just place it in the circle and press down on the tape and she is good to go. You could also try a ACE bandage ( Attach 2 togeather) and wrap it around her waist , just another idea. Do's she live with you ? I would try the tape, and test how long it takes to charge fully, and like I said just get it set and tell her how long to keep it on by the clock .You could also get a timer and she could -see- if the time ran out, she is charged up. I don't know how her mental condition is so forgive me if I give advice that is not something she can do herself. . Now there is a tape that is used in sugery that is thick and comes off without pain. I had a roll at the hosp. because the doctor left it on my bed so I brought it home and it is about all used up. This thick tape is really good but I'm sure it would be hard to get your hands on some. As Mom is a female she may not have much hair in that area so a good medical tape should work ok. You could also get the shaving cream out and a razor and just shave her where the tape will go and that would make it more comfortable for her.I hope this helps. God Bless you for being a good son Harry . Let me know how thing are going ...ok . LORD;I AM IN A PRISON...FOR SOMETHING I NEVER DONE...IT'S BEEN ONE HILL AFTER ANOTHER...I'VE CLIMBED THEM ALL...ONE BY ONE >________________________________ > >To: stillsdisease >Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:28 AM >Subject: RE: Stimulator Implant--Harry-GARY > > >Hello , >I appreciate all the good advice. I really like the idea of tape and I will try that next. On my mother's unit there is a beeper system. If the charger is near the implanted unit the beeper creates a beeping sound that is not loud enough for her to hear. If the unit is on the correct area to charge the implanted stimulator the beeping sound stops. Again the problem is that my mother's hearing is poor at the frequency level of the beeper. She can not distinguish if the sound is being produced or the sound has stopped. The rep can't change the method the stimulator uses to alert the patient regarding the success of the charging plan while it is occurring. My mother's unit is a Boston Scientific SCS. >Thanks, >Harry S. > > > > >To: Stillsdisease >From: proangler56@... >Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:09:17 -0700 >Subject: Stimulator Implant--Harry-GARY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Harry; > > here; I just got a new model that keeps a charge for a long time, the charger is attached to a belt I can put on and just wear for about a hour and it is charged and has lights. Mine is a ANS model. I would sejust you contact the service Tech. for advice on this matter , he/her may have a good solution. All my past stimulators has functions for differant settings. There should be a green light on the charger that would let her know it is charged and another that tells her it is charging. We may not have the same unit as they have differant ones for differ people. Positioning the towels for the charger is ok but you might think about medical tape if she could tolarate the removal of the tape. Than she can see if the charge light is solid green and can take it off. My unit can give me a low shock or high and left or right side or both sides. I have it set where it goe's from the hips down to my toes on the same level and leave it on all the time > >and adjust as needed. I hope this note helpes some and try differant type of tape's and that might make it easier to deal with. If you get the charger set on her and leave just tell her to take it off in a hour and a half and it should be fully charged by than. > >I hope this helped , God Bless > >GARY > > > > > > > >> > >>________________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >>Hello , > >>I am glad to hear the spinal cord stimulator gives you some relief. My Mother just had one implanted for pain related to severe spinal stenosis. She has had good relief with the ability to reduce her need for pain medication. One problem has been recharging the implanted battery. My mother is a little hard of hearing > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>To: Stillsdisease > >>From: proangler56@... > >>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:54:15 -0700 > >>Subject: Stimulator Implant > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I have a Stimulator implant Harry and they work great. I had my first one in 98' and 2 more sence. The batteries run out and you need a replacement. The one I have now will give me 8 more years of battery life. It is a outpatiant operation for the new implants. With the combination of pain management with drugs and the stimulator I still have a degree of cronic pain . The stimulator gives me 40% relief and that is alot. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>LORD;I AM IN A PRISON...FOR SOMETHING I NEVER DONE...IT'S BEEN ONE HILL AFTER ANOTHER...I'VE CLIMBED THEM ALL...ONE BY ONE > >> > >> > >> > >>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>>To: stillsdisease > >> > >>>Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:04 AM > >> > >>>Subject: RE: Back Surgery > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Hello Gail, > >> > >>>A few things to consider regarding surgery. Many patients consider spine surgery a failure if they do not achieve a satisfactory level of pain relief. The absolute percentage of relief of pain unfortunately is hard for a spine surgeon to predict as a result of surgery. Prolonged compression of a nerve particularly small diameter nerve fibers (temperature and pain) can result in chronic scarring such that even after a structurally successful lumbar decompression and fusion there is continued pain. One needs to also consider the possibility that in the absence of surgery the larger nerve fibers carrying balance input and voluntary motor activity do not get permanently injured. The result is progressive numbness, ataxia, and paralysis. A patient with chronic pain following lumbar spine surgery may be a candidate for an implantable spinal cord stimulator for relief of pain. Preservation of sensory and motor function is the primary concern particularly in > >> > >>a patient with not unreasonable pre-operative risk factors. > >> > >>>Harry S. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>To: Stillsdisease > >> > >>>From: glmrphy@... > >> > >>>Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:29:24 -0700 > >> > >>>Subject: Re: Back Surgery > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Thanks for posting this, ... I am still undecided about my back, have been thru so much to try and fix my multiple problems and sometimes the pain gets so bad I am ready to tell the doc to sterilize the scalpel, lol... I have vertebral slippage (spondylolisthesis), spine curvature, nerve protrusions and spurs. All located at L-4/L-5 and L-5/S-1... Physical therapy worked until they started traction, which messed it up worse. 32 visits to chiropractor and him finally saying , I've done all I can. Two neurosurgeons (had to get that 2nd opinion!) both agree that if the epidural steroid injections dont help my only option is surgery. They are talking about going in, correctng the curve in my spine and fixing the vertebral slippage, blah, blah... two rods and I can't remember how many screws to hold it all together. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>So, it was on to the pain clinic for the injections which help some, only temporarily. Only other thing they have suggested is spinal manipulation where I would need to be sedated. That scares me, too. Doc said, please, whatever you do, you are only allowed to walk and swim, that's it, or your spine will slip right off itself. Lovely. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>So, I take it a day at a time. Want to weigh my options and talk to others (like you) who have good or bad outcomes. For now, I use a cane when it's bad (I can't stand for longer than 5 minutes without holding onto something) and take pain meds (they barely touch it) and hope for the best. However, my husband had C-spine surgery years ago and has done well with the outcome. Guess it all depends... > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Sorry you are going thru this, and I know your situation is different b/c it was so sudden, hang in there! > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Gail > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>To: " Stillsdisease " <Stillsdisease > > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:14 PM > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Subject: Back Segury > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Here; > >> > >>> > >> > >>>I would like to talk to you about my experance with back segury. If one can avoid it please AVOID IT. I had a slipped and cracked L5-S1 vertabra and had bone taken from my hip and fussed 3 vertaba togeather. I also had to have three 6 " rods and 6 screws to hold the rods and vertabra in place. I had to have this operation due to a Harley accident. I hit a car broadside going 50 miles per hour, he did not see me. He pulled out in front of me. My operation was not a question of should I have it done it was have to case or my spinal cord would have been severed. My operation was done as a emergancy . I now have " Failed Back Syndrome " a very cronic condition that will never go away. One can look up this condition on WebMD and you will read what a back operation can leave you with. Now I know some people have miner operations and feel good after but a major invacive operation can leave you in more pain than not having surgery . > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>Hi all, > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>I'm trying not to be depressed but I got my MRI results this week from my cervical spine and the damage is quite extensive with disk buldging at a few places and the with disc pieces up to 7 mm in size breaking off and pressing into my central spinal canal in several places. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I understand Harry. I am on my 3rd stimulator and the first one was like that. The one I have now has lights and a belt. Harry , if you take the charger and you find the right spot with " You " doing it, take a black marker and make a circle on her skin, and she can just place it right where you marked it, and have her put tape on it before she try's to place it, and have her just place it in the circle and press down on the tape and she is good to go. You could also try a ACE bandage ( Attach 2 togeather) and wrap it around her waist , just another idea. Do's she live with you ? I would try the tape, and test how long it takes to charge fully, and like I said just get it set and tell her how long to keep it on by the clock .You could also get a timer and she could -see- if the time ran out, she is charged up. I don't know how her mental condition is so forgive me if I give advice that is not something she can do herself. . Now there is a tape that is used in sugery that is thick and comes off without pain. I had a roll at the hosp. because the doctor left it on my bed so I brought it home and it is about all used up. This thick tape is really good but I'm sure it would be hard to get your hands on some. As Mom is a female she may not have much hair in that area so a good medical tape should work ok. You could also get the shaving cream out and a razor and just shave her where the tape will go and that would make it more comfortable for her.I hope this helps. God Bless you for being a good son Harry . Let me know how thing are going ...ok . LORD;I AM IN A PRISON...FOR SOMETHING I NEVER DONE...IT'S BEEN ONE HILL AFTER ANOTHER...I'VE CLIMBED THEM ALL...ONE BY ONE >________________________________ > >To: stillsdisease >Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:28 AM >Subject: RE: Stimulator Implant--Harry-GARY > > >Hello , >I appreciate all the good advice. I really like the idea of tape and I will try that next. On my mother's unit there is a beeper system. If the charger is near the implanted unit the beeper creates a beeping sound that is not loud enough for her to hear. If the unit is on the correct area to charge the implanted stimulator the beeping sound stops. Again the problem is that my mother's hearing is poor at the frequency level of the beeper. She can not distinguish if the sound is being produced or the sound has stopped. The rep can't change the method the stimulator uses to alert the patient regarding the success of the charging plan while it is occurring. My mother's unit is a Boston Scientific SCS. >Thanks, >Harry S. > > > > >To: Stillsdisease >From: proangler56@... >Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:09:17 -0700 >Subject: Stimulator Implant--Harry-GARY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Harry; > > here; I just got a new model that keeps a charge for a long time, the charger is attached to a belt I can put on and just wear for about a hour and it is charged and has lights. Mine is a ANS model. I would sejust you contact the service Tech. for advice on this matter , he/her may have a good solution. All my past stimulators has functions for differant settings. There should be a green light on the charger that would let her know it is charged and another that tells her it is charging. We may not have the same unit as they have differant ones for differ people. Positioning the towels for the charger is ok but you might think about medical tape if she could tolarate the removal of the tape. Than she can see if the charge light is solid green and can take it off. My unit can give me a low shock or high and left or right side or both sides. I have it set where it goe's from the hips down to my toes on the same level and leave it on all the time > >and adjust as needed. I hope this note helpes some and try differant type of tape's and that might make it easier to deal with. If you get the charger set on her and leave just tell her to take it off in a hour and a half and it should be fully charged by than. > >I hope this helped , God Bless > >GARY > > > > > > > >> > >>________________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >>Hello , > >>I am glad to hear the spinal cord stimulator gives you some relief. My Mother just had one implanted for pain related to severe spinal stenosis. She has had good relief with the ability to reduce her need for pain medication. One problem has been recharging the implanted battery. My mother is a little hard of hearing > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>To: Stillsdisease > >>From: proangler56@... > >>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:54:15 -0700 > >>Subject: Stimulator Implant > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I have a Stimulator implant Harry and they work great. I had my first one in 98' and 2 more sence. The batteries run out and you need a replacement. The one I have now will give me 8 more years of battery life. It is a outpatiant operation for the new implants. With the combination of pain management with drugs and the stimulator I still have a degree of cronic pain . The stimulator gives me 40% relief and that is alot. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>LORD;I AM IN A PRISON...FOR SOMETHING I NEVER DONE...IT'S BEEN ONE HILL AFTER ANOTHER...I'VE CLIMBED THEM ALL...ONE BY ONE > >> > >> > >> > >>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>>To: stillsdisease > >> > >>>Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:04 AM > >> > >>>Subject: RE: Back Surgery > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Hello Gail, > >> > >>>A few things to consider regarding surgery. Many patients consider spine surgery a failure if they do not achieve a satisfactory level of pain relief. The absolute percentage of relief of pain unfortunately is hard for a spine surgeon to predict as a result of surgery. Prolonged compression of a nerve particularly small diameter nerve fibers (temperature and pain) can result in chronic scarring such that even after a structurally successful lumbar decompression and fusion there is continued pain. One needs to also consider the possibility that in the absence of surgery the larger nerve fibers carrying balance input and voluntary motor activity do not get permanently injured. The result is progressive numbness, ataxia, and paralysis. A patient with chronic pain following lumbar spine surgery may be a candidate for an implantable spinal cord stimulator for relief of pain. Preservation of sensory and motor function is the primary concern particularly in > >> > >>a patient with not unreasonable pre-operative risk factors. > >> > >>>Harry S. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>To: Stillsdisease > >> > >>>From: glmrphy@... > >> > >>>Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:29:24 -0700 > >> > >>>Subject: Re: Back Surgery > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Thanks for posting this, ... I am still undecided about my back, have been thru so much to try and fix my multiple problems and sometimes the pain gets so bad I am ready to tell the doc to sterilize the scalpel, lol... I have vertebral slippage (spondylolisthesis), spine curvature, nerve protrusions and spurs. All located at L-4/L-5 and L-5/S-1... Physical therapy worked until they started traction, which messed it up worse. 32 visits to chiropractor and him finally saying , I've done all I can. Two neurosurgeons (had to get that 2nd opinion!) both agree that if the epidural steroid injections dont help my only option is surgery. They are talking about going in, correctng the curve in my spine and fixing the vertebral slippage, blah, blah... two rods and I can't remember how many screws to hold it all together. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>So, it was on to the pain clinic for the injections which help some, only temporarily. Only other thing they have suggested is spinal manipulation where I would need to be sedated. That scares me, too. Doc said, please, whatever you do, you are only allowed to walk and swim, that's it, or your spine will slip right off itself. Lovely. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>So, I take it a day at a time. Want to weigh my options and talk to others (like you) who have good or bad outcomes. For now, I use a cane when it's bad (I can't stand for longer than 5 minutes without holding onto something) and take pain meds (they barely touch it) and hope for the best. However, my husband had C-spine surgery years ago and has done well with the outcome. Guess it all depends... > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Sorry you are going thru this, and I know your situation is different b/c it was so sudden, hang in there! > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Gail > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>To: " Stillsdisease " <Stillsdisease > > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:14 PM > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Subject: Back Segury > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Here; > >> > >>> > >> > >>>I would like to talk to you about my experance with back segury. If one can avoid it please AVOID IT. I had a slipped and cracked L5-S1 vertabra and had bone taken from my hip and fussed 3 vertaba togeather. I also had to have three 6 " rods and 6 screws to hold the rods and vertabra in place. I had to have this operation due to a Harley accident. I hit a car broadside going 50 miles per hour, he did not see me. He pulled out in front of me. My operation was not a question of should I have it done it was have to case or my spinal cord would have been severed. My operation was done as a emergancy . I now have " Failed Back Syndrome " a very cronic condition that will never go away. One can look up this condition on WebMD and you will read what a back operation can leave you with. Now I know some people have miner operations and feel good after but a major invacive operation can leave you in more pain than not having surgery . > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>Hi all, > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>I'm trying not to be depressed but I got my MRI results this week from my cervical spine and the damage is quite extensive with disk buldging at a few places and the with disc pieces up to 7 mm in size breaking off and pressing into my central spinal canal in several places. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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