Re: testing urine for oxalates

[Guest guest]

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Dr. 's urine test is a 24 hour test where you freeze your samples and

send them to him in a kit he provides. I truly think he is a kind and caring

man and although it sounds like a lot of money he will follow your progress or

lack of progress indefinitely. I don't think that he is going to be a multi

millionaire with this fee. Also you can write to him anytime with questions or

advice and he always answers. Many women have been helped by him and as far

as I know there aren't too many researchers out there looking for answers for

us.

Darlene

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I know some of you were talking about getting your urine tested for $350

by Dr. Solomen (?). I just had it done today by my naturopath for a $12

lab fee. My urine was fine. I say, try a natural health clinic before

giving this man that much money. That seems like a ridiculous amount if

you ask me. Just my 2 cents.....

[Guest guest]

My doctor tested my urine for oxalates right in his office, and the cost

was just included in his regular consultation fee, so I just paid my

regular co-pay. Check this out before paying so much to have Dr. s

do it. I don't think it is that complicated of a process. If you'd like

more info, just let me know.

At 05:54 PM 2/4/99 -0800, you wrote:

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>Hi,

>I know some of you were talking about getting your urine tested for $350

>by Dr. Solomen (?). I just had it done today by my naturopath for a $12

>lab fee. My urine was fine. I say, try a natural health clinic before

>giving this man that much money. That seems like a ridiculous amount if

>you ask me. Just my 2 cents.....

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[Guest guest]

Oh, I forgot to mention that the test my doctor did was also a full 24-hour

test. Not to criticize the Dr. s set-up, just wanted you to know my

experience with it and how much it cost.

At 10:27 PM 2/4/99 -0500, you wrote:

>From: DRUBIN0726@...

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>,

>Dr. 's urine test is a 24 hour test where you freeze your samples and

>send them to him in a kit he provides. I truly think he is a kind and caring

>man and although it sounds like a lot of money he will follow your

progress or

>lack of progress indefinitely. I don't think that he is going to be a multi

>millionaire with this fee. Also you can write to him anytime with

questions or

>advice and he always answers. Many women have been helped by him and as far

>as I know there aren't too many researchers out there looking for answers for

>us.

>

>Darlene

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[Guest guest]

Darlene,

I am sorry if I at all offended you or anyone else. I guess I am just

ignorant to all that he does for so many people. I guess I was just shocked

when my naturopath sent it to the lab for me for $12 and he charges $350.

I am all for anyone who is helping us in anyway and I just wanted to share

my story.

Please forgive me if I came across harshly...

Smiles,

[Guest guest]

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I didn't mean to sound offended. I didn't realize that you could be tested by

your naturopath. I really do have faith in Dr. s although I haven't

been helped by his low oxalate diet and calcium citrate protocol. I hope I

didn't sound like I think I am a know it all because I am learning new things

about VV everyday.

I hope that your doctor can help you and that you will be well.

Again I hope I didn't sound like I had all the answeres.

Take care

Darlene

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I've talked to Dr. s and his wife over the phone. Their test

goes into what hour you have high and low oxalates,not just whether you

have high oxlates in general, so you can guage your calcium citrate

according to what hour your oxalate is highest.

I have to say I thought he and his wife were very kind and gentle

people,and I've read their articles; it's hard to believe they'd be

ripping people off

However, if one oxalate test helps for $12, go for it. I'd try the

least expensive first.

Beth

kathleen lois akemann wrote:

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> Hi,

> I know some of you were talking about getting your urine tested for $350

> by Dr. Solomen (?). I just had it done today by my naturopath for a $12

> lab fee. My urine was fine. I say, try a natural health clinic before

> giving this man that much money. That seems like a ridiculous amount if

> you ask me. Just my 2 cents.....

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[Guest guest]

The test that Dr. 's does, to my knowledge, can be done in any

lab for a significantly lower amount of money.

While I don't doubt that he is available for phone consultations about

the patients progress, and that he and his wife are kind and

compassionate, I am very skeptical of anyone charging $350 for a simple

urine test.

I know that there have been women who have been helped with the low

oxalate diet coupled with calcium citrate, but I am not convinced that

Dr. 's is the only person to provide information about the levels

of oxalate being excreted. I'm also not convinced that the citrate must

be taken at certain times of the day. To date, 's has not

published a double-blind study about his theories of oxalate

involvement. Rather, there have been at least two studies which have

questioned it.

Again, I don't blame any of you for wanting to try this method. I tried

it myself - but I would be cautious about sending anyone that amount of

money. I guess it comes down to your budget and your comfort level with

this.

Warmly,

Heidi

[Guest guest]

I had a 24 hr urine oxalate test done in my own hospital lab - covered

by medical plan here in Canada. It showed my oxalates to be 50% higher

than the top range. However, I was told there are many factors

contributing - your diet of the day and just plain increasing your fluid

intake will increase oxalate output.

I have some questions about the oxalates. I know that if I eat oxalate

foods my bowel responds (and I suffer from massive constipation);

however, it also produces irritation in that area and and IC attack to

boot.

My IC attack will go down if I don't have a movement. But in a half day

it is rock hard again; then a laxative (which acts like the oxalates)

puts me into a worse attack again.

What a vicious cycle.

This week I'm trying a millet-rice-legume, chicken broth stew, mixed

with romano beans for fiber. When all else fails, try coming up with

your own solution! We'll see.

Alice

[Guest guest]

I had a 24 hr urine oxalate test done in my own hospital lab - covered

by medical plan here in Canada. It showed my oxalates to be 50% higher

than the top range. However, I was told there are many factors

contributing - your diet of the day and just plain increasing your fluid

intake will increase oxalate output.

I have some questions about the oxalates. I know that if I eat oxalate

foods my bowel responds (and I suffer from massive constipation);

however, it also produces irritation in that area and and IC attack to

boot.

My IC attack will go down if I don't have a movement. But in a half day

it is rock hard again; then a laxative (which acts like the oxalates)

puts me into a worse attack again.

What a vicious cycle.

This week I'm trying a millet-rice-legume, chicken broth stew, mixed

with romano beans for fiber. When all else fails, try coming up with

your own solution! We'll see.

Alice

[Guest guest]

I had a 24 hr urine oxalate test done in my own hospital lab - covered

by medical plan here in Canada. It showed my oxalates to be 50% higher

than the top range. However, I was told there are many factors

contributing - your diet of the day and just plain increasing your fluid

intake will increase oxalate output.

I have some questions about the oxalates. I know that if I eat oxalate

foods my bowel responds (and I suffer from massive constipation);

however, it also produces irritation in that area and and IC attack to

boot.

My IC attack will go down if I don't have a movement. But in a half day

it is rock hard again; then a laxative (which acts like the oxalates)

puts me into a worse attack again.

What a vicious cycle.

This week I'm trying a millet-rice-legume, chicken broth stew, mixed

with romano beans for fiber. When all else fails, try coming up with

your own solution! We'll see.

Alice