Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 According to my mother, she was the most victimized person on the planet. She was a severe waif and was for the most part completely helpless. She made up many lies about being raped, assaulted, stalked, and beaten. She would mutilate herself and say she was attacked (bruising her arms and legs, cutting etc.) , she would draw on black eyes with eyeliner and say she was beaten. Her black eyes would melt off and she would still not admit she was lying. I have many waif stories, too many. My mom ended up committing suicide so I guess that was her way of " drowning " herself. She became so helpless and pitiful even she couldn't take it anymore. WTOAdultChildren1 , proflaf1 wrote: > > Guys, > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far as they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to swam to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has to swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, nada wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had warrants for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after she has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' drowning " herself? > MC > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Drowning is an excellent metaphor for waifs. My nada is a waif, and she's just lost her 90 year old mother. For the past several years, her nervous tending to her mother was ALL she had going on in life. Now that the mother is gone, nada looks around and is sure to act surprised and hurt that none of us are around. She swept us to the side to rush to the latest medical drama of my grandmother (who was only too happy to have her do so). After all, what is more dramatic than leaving in the middle of the night to rush to a medical crisis? She left it up to my fada to let us all know that she was gone to her mother's side again. Plans? Well, they're expendable -- we weren't important enough for nada to call herself and cancel them because of the medical " crisis " . (and there were many) Now, here she is -- 65 years old and has built nothing into her current life to come back to after her mother has died. She does nothing but smoke and sit in the garage, lamenting how we all hate her and have severed ties with her. (talk about projection!) I can now clearly see how a lifetime of this can build into a black vortex, swallowing you, getting stronger as you get older and feed more into it. It IS a type of drowning! Now, I'm gearing myself up to see her again -- I know it will happen sometime. I have to resist the urge to give her advice. She doesn't want to hear it, and I'm not interested in being her personal life coach. She needs a professional. So, seeing the supreme waif (in her now-advanced Waifdom) now will have to involve some major detachment on my part. -Kyla > > Guys, > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far as they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to swam to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has to swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, nada wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had warrants for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after she has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' drowning " herself? > MC > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Kyla, They are amazing! Just do what you need to avoid being 'pulled under' yourself! All the best. I just received a call from a friend, who said my mother called him this morning, because she is 'worried' about me. This was all prompted by my need to detach. She told him she thinks I am an alcoholic!!! What!!!! This is the Queen's way of lashing out when she feels she has been betrayed. I can only imagine what she is telling other people. I am glad I have this chat room - it brings some sanity to the drama that has become my life as the child of a BP. I can't even seperate without being attacked!!! -K kylaboo728 wrote: > Drowning is an excellent metaphor for waifs. My nada is a waif, and > she's just lost her 90 year old mother. For the past several years, > her nervous tending to her mother was ALL she had going on in life. > Now that the mother is gone, nada looks around and is sure to act > surprised and hurt that none of us are around. > > She swept us to the side to rush to the latest medical drama of my > grandmother (who was only too happy to have her do so). After all, > what is more dramatic than leaving in the middle of the night to > rush to a medical crisis? She left it up to my fada to let us all > know that she was gone to her mother's side again. Plans? Well, > they're expendable -- we weren't important enough for nada to call > herself and cancel them because of the medical " crisis " . (and there > were many) > > Now, here she is -- 65 years old and has built nothing into her > current life to come back to after her mother has died. She does > nothing but smoke and sit in the garage, lamenting how we all hate > her and have severed ties with her. (talk about projection!) > > I can now clearly see how a lifetime of this can build into a black > vortex, swallowing you, getting stronger as you get older and feed > more into it. It IS a type of drowning! > > Now, I'm gearing myself up to see her again -- I know it will happen > sometime. I have to resist the urge to give her advice. She > doesn't want to hear it, and I'm not interested in being her > personal life coach. She needs a professional. > > So, seeing the supreme waif (in her now-advanced Waifdom) now will > have to involve some major detachment on my part. > > -Kyla > > > > > > Guys, > > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far as > they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have > heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to swam > to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has to > swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, nada > wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had warrants > for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the > cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' > know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the > government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a > safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after she > has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' > drowning " herself? > > MC > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Yep that's why I stear clear from her all together. I know jsut from the time that my dad got sick and died that she was a big financial threat to me as well as an emotional threat. Just weird watching this stuff and connecting it together is amazing. Yep my nada tried to tell my aunt that I was an alchoholic as well I think it was a few months after I had first went n/c with her. I'd hate to hear what my nada comes up with about me as well. THanks for the validation MC " K. F Woods " wrote: Kyla, They are amazing! Just do what you need to avoid being 'pulled under' yourself! All the best. I just received a call from a friend, who said my mother called him this morning, because she is 'worried' about me. This was all prompted by my need to detach. She told him she thinks I am an alcoholic!!! What!!!! This is the Queen's way of lashing out when she feels she has been betrayed. I can only imagine what she is telling other people. I am glad I have this chat room - it brings some sanity to the drama that has become my life as the child of a BP. I can't even seperate without being attacked!!! -K kylaboo728 wrote: > Drowning is an excellent metaphor for waifs. My nada is a waif, and > she's just lost her 90 year old mother. For the past several years, > her nervous tending to her mother was ALL she had going on in life. > Now that the mother is gone, nada looks around and is sure to act > surprised and hurt that none of us are around. > > She swept us to the side to rush to the latest medical drama of my > grandmother (who was only too happy to have her do so). After all, > what is more dramatic than leaving in the middle of the night to > rush to a medical crisis? She left it up to my fada to let us all > know that she was gone to her mother's side again. Plans? Well, > they're expendable -- we weren't important enough for nada to call > herself and cancel them because of the medical " crisis " . (and there > were many) > > Now, here she is -- 65 years old and has built nothing into her > current life to come back to after her mother has died. She does > nothing but smoke and sit in the garage, lamenting how we all hate > her and have severed ties with her. (talk about projection!) > > I can now clearly see how a lifetime of this can build into a black > vortex, swallowing you, getting stronger as you get older and feed > more into it. It IS a type of drowning! > > Now, I'm gearing myself up to see her again -- I know it will happen > sometime. I have to resist the urge to give her advice. She > doesn't want to hear it, and I'm not interested in being her > personal life coach. She needs a professional. > > So, seeing the supreme waif (in her now-advanced Waifdom) now will > have to involve some major detachment on my part. > > -Kyla > > > > > > Guys, > > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far as > they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have > heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to swam > to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has to > swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, nada > wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had warrants > for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the > cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' > know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the > government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a > safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after she > has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' > drowning " herself? > > MC > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Amazing, This is how I would describe how my nada was about my dad, stayed with him at the nursing home from the time she got up until she went home late at night and went to bed, ate there and everything. She didn't really take care of him much at all. Played victim to her family and dad's family, (since I went n/c from her I've found them and found two of three sisters very nice individuals of which she ran away from and severely hurt as well as that her mother and father died never knowing where there daughter was. What kills me is she depended on my dad so much and she also played victim to him. Also chased off his family to the point of ridiculous (my dad was a great guy he deserved to be treated a lot better than she treated him). Since he died she tried to manipulate me into taking care of her the way that he did. (He did way too much for her) When that failed and I went n/c, she used the neighbors to help take care of her until I think the neighbors have all had enough of her lies and crap. And I think that vortex for her has now gotten so big and she has played her sob story so many times she'll wind up locked up in a mental institution. What's interesting here is my nada would be around 60 years old as well so I wonder if there's somethign anyhow at that stage in the disease that shuts them down that far. Whenever i hear of this crap goign on with her I just remind myself of that phrase and steer clear of her crap and that I did do everything I could to help her, it's not my fault that she's the way she is, it's her own fault for not really getting help. (Tried to tell the doctors she was screwed up but they said she was fine, who is right now eh) Hate to say it but now I have a cynical attitude about it more of if anybody bugts me about her again it will be I notified her doctors when she was starting to go nuts and they refused to listen, please regisuter you complaints to them and APS it's not my fault she's an idiot. Thanks MC kylaboo728 wrote: Drowning is an excellent metaphor for waifs. My nada is a waif, and she's just lost her 90 year old mother. For the past several years, her nervous tending to her mother was ALL she had going on in life. Now that the mother is gone, nada looks around and is sure to act surprised and hurt that none of us are around. She swept us to the side to rush to the latest medical drama of my grandmother (who was only too happy to have her do so). After all, what is more dramatic than leaving in the middle of the night to rush to a medical crisis? She left it up to my fada to let us all know that she was gone to her mother's side again. Plans? Well, they're expendable -- we weren't important enough for nada to call herself and cancel them because of the medical " crisis " . (and there were many) Now, here she is -- 65 years old and has built nothing into her current life to come back to after her mother has died. She does nothing but smoke and sit in the garage, lamenting how we all hate her and have severed ties with her. (talk about projection!) I can now clearly see how a lifetime of this can build into a black vortex, swallowing you, getting stronger as you get older and feed more into it. It IS a type of drowning! Now, I'm gearing myself up to see her again -- I know it will happen sometime. I have to resist the urge to give her advice. She doesn't want to hear it, and I'm not interested in being her personal life coach. She needs a professional. So, seeing the supreme waif (in her now-advanced Waifdom) now will have to involve some major detachment on my part. -Kyla > > Guys, > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far as they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to swam to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has to swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, nada wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had warrants for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after she has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' drowning " herself? > MC > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 MC -- wow -- it makes me feel so comforted to know that your story is so similar to mine. And you have had the same fears: that my nada will expect me to fulfill the role of " hero " if she outlives my dad. I dread that. She can be very manipulative when she needs something. Also: the money thing! She also has such an entitlement mindset, and my DH and I are financially comfortable (through hard work and sacrifice) and I can just see her saying " Well, they can support me - - they've got money. " She was notoriously " frugal " when I was growing up. Treated us like we were a financial burden. I finally quit asking for money or things I needed and got a job as soon as I could. She always loved getting things for free (whether honestly or not) and loved making others pay for her necessities. I can see her just attaching herself to us after she makes poor financial decisions. Also, her mother wouldn't even let her call long distance while visiting and was notoriously cheap, so I'm sure my nada will carry that family tradition into the next generation. I think some segments of society expect grown children to financially carry their parents -- so I'm feeling a little guilty for thinking this way. But when a BP parent is not good with money, I don't think it's our responsibility to fill that void. Anyway, MC -- thanks for sharing your story. I found it very comforting to know I'm not alone in this. {hugs} Kyla > > > > > > Guys, > > > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far as > > they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have > > heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to swam > > to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has to > > swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, nada > > wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had warrants > > for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the > > cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' > > know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the > > government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a > > safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after she > > has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' > > drowning " herself? > > > MC > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 I noticed in 2 of your posts you mentioning your mom being locked up in an institution. This triggers me because we tried for years to have my mom put somewhere decent for long term care. I hate to burst your bubble, but it is very rare for this to happen. I don't know her financial situation, but unless she can afford a private nursing home or hospital, state hospitals do not keep people long term anymore. Also, it is very probable if she did get in a private institution, they would deem her too difficult and kick her out. We were about to try to get my mom in one of these before she died (her brother and sister were going to pay for it, they were so frustrated dealing with her- I don't have that kind of money, nor would I have paid for it), but when we explained her mental problems this is what we were told. If she was too demanding or difficult, they would not keep her. What BPD person is not too demanding????? My mom was in and out of hospitals for years and it was very frustrating. All of the case workers knew how sick she was, but wouldn't keep her. Everyone in the medical field turned their back on her- social workers, hospitals, doctors. This seems pretty typical wiht BPD. The only place we could find for long term care was an adult home and the only state home was filthy, disgusting, and scary. She had been in there once, refused to go back, and our family couldn't in good conscience force the issue because the conditions were so bad. Reluctantly, she lived in on her own in an apartment because no one in the family could handle the stress of her living with one of us. She was not in any state to live on her own, but there were no options. I think some states have better mental health services than mine, but in this day and age hospitals rarely committ people anymore. Also remember, BP's are masters of manipulation and unless your mom loses all grip with reality, she will not want to go to a hospital and will fight/manipulate the system. That was my experience anyway.... > > > > Guys, > > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far as > they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have > heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to swam > to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has to > swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, nada > wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had warrants > for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the > cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' > know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the > government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a > safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after she > has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' > drowning " herself? > > MC > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Glad to know it is rare. My aunt keeps thinking they will stash her in an instituion (certainly would save them a lot of trouble to lock her up and throw out the key. However I dont' know what to think. I hope they do that would be safest for her and less money wasted on the system.. Her financial situation is bad, I also knw she's a finaical threat to DH and I. Just when it was me by myself she was bad enough (demanded I give her a credit card in my name, I refused nada got angry). One of those has no control of herself spending money, buys clothes she doesnt' need ect, I'd imagine she'd get kicked out of a home if she refused to do her share of the work. (her lift up a finger who the hell knows. My part of the country the doctors are so freakign stupid, the individulas I dealt with when I was getting help for myself (went back to childhood counselor who knew what she was dealing with) and let her doctor know nada was out of line. Both of them sadly underestimated her disease, she was able to fake them out very well if she's still doign that well not my fault folks. Thanks MC mitchell_kristin wrote: I noticed in 2 of your posts you mentioning your mom being locked up in an institution. This triggers me because we tried for years to have my mom put somewhere decent for long term care. I hate to burst your bubble, but it is very rare for this to happen. I don't know her financial situation, but unless she can afford a private nursing home or hospital, state hospitals do not keep people long term anymore. Also, it is very probable if she did get in a private institution, they would deem her too difficult and kick her out. We were about to try to get my mom in one of these before she died (her brother and sister were going to pay for it, they were so frustrated dealing with her- I don't have that kind of money, nor would I have paid for it), but when we explained her mental problems this is what we were told. If she was too demanding or difficult, they would not keep her. What BPD person is not too demanding????? My mom was in and out of hospitals for years and it was very frustrating. All of the case workers knew how sick she was, but wouldn't keep her. Everyone in the medical field turned their back on her- social workers, hospitals, doctors. This seems pretty typical wiht BPD. The only place we could find for long term care was an adult home and the only state home was filthy, disgusting, and scary. She had been in there once, refused to go back, and our family couldn't in good conscience force the issue because the conditions were so bad. Reluctantly, she lived in on her own in an apartment because no one in the family could handle the stress of her living with one of us. She was not in any state to live on her own, but there were no options. I think some states have better mental health services than mine, but in this day and age hospitals rarely committ people anymore. Also remember, BP's are masters of manipulation and unless your mom loses all grip with reality, she will not want to go to a hospital and will fight/manipulate the system. That was my experience anyway.... > > > > Guys, > > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far as > they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have > heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to swam > to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has to > swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, nada > wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had warrants > for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the > cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' > know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the > government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a > safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after she > has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' > drowning " herself? > > MC > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Glad it was able to help and glad I'm not the only KO to have the same fears which I dont' care what others say they are very reasonble. Although I got lucky with the hospice my dad was cared for through, they picke up that nada wasn't right and lying through her teeth so it made it easier for me to get away. I think society is so out of line with the take care of your parents thing in the bp situation, they have no idea of the problems that nadas present financially. I think the only way to handle nadas with money are to make sure that an accountant is hired to disperse the money as they need it. If they are allowed to handle it themselves it will be gone. I think that's what happened to nada, she squandered all of her funds and now has a problem. My DH and I would have had the same problem you describe they have the money take care of me if I ever attempted to deal with her. Again that's why I stay nada free, (alhtough it's amazing how much I still find out about how she is doing) (She's figured out I'm staying away to the point she finally put someone else in charge of medical decisions and won't bother me after she's gone yeah) MC kylaboo728 wrote: MC -- wow -- it makes me feel so comforted to know that your story is so similar to mine. And you have had the same fears: that my nada will expect me to fulfill the role of " hero " if she outlives my dad. I dread that. She can be very manipulative when she needs something. Also: the money thing! She also has such an entitlement mindset, and my DH and I are financially comfortable (through hard work and sacrifice) and I can just see her saying " Well, they can support me - - they've got money. " She was notoriously " frugal " when I was growing up. Treated us like we were a financial burden. I finally quit asking for money or things I needed and got a job as soon as I could. She always loved getting things for free (whether honestly or not) and loved making others pay for her necessities. I can see her just attaching herself to us after she makes poor financial decisions. Also, her mother wouldn't even let her call long distance while visiting and was notoriously cheap, so I'm sure my nada will carry that family tradition into the next generation. I think some segments of society expect grown children to financially carry their parents -- so I'm feeling a little guilty for thinking this way. But when a BP parent is not good with money, I don't think it's our responsibility to fill that void. Anyway, MC -- thanks for sharing your story. I found it very comforting to know I'm not alone in this. {hugs} Kyla > > > > > > Guys, > > > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far as > > they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have > > heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to swam > > to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has to > > swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, nada > > wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had warrants > > for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the > > cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' > > know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the > > government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a > > safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after she > > has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' > > drowning " herself? > > > MC > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 I think most doctors still don't want to treat BPs. It makes me very angry the way they allow people, especially those without money, to fall through the cracks of system. My dad is in mental health field and he still claims BPs aren't treatable at all. I think that attitude is really screwed up, there are many people affected by this disease and we all need help. It's pitiful! > > > > > > Guys, > > > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far > as > > they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have > > heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to > swam > > to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has > to > > swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, > nada > > wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had > warrants > > for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the > > cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' > > know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the > > government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a > > safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after > she > > has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' > > drowning " herself? > > > MC > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green > Center. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 I think most doctors still don't want to treat BPs. It makes me very angry the way they allow people, especially those without money, to fall through the cracks of system. My dad is in mental health field and he still claims BPs aren't treatable at all. I think that attitude is really screwed up, there are many people affected by this disease and we all need help. It's pitiful! > > > > > > Guys, > > > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far > as > > they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have > > heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to > swam > > to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has > to > > swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, > nada > > wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had > warrants > > for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the > > cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' > > know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the > > government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a > > safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after > she > > has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' > > drowning " herself? > > > MC > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green > Center. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 What an important topic! Not only do most doctors not /want/ to treat BP, many primary care physicians entirely /miss/ the diagnosis. Many know very little about the illness and therefore cannot refer the BP to psychiatric help. My mother can fool her physician into thinking that she is 'quite normal' and doing well. I was always the one sounding the alarm and then being made to look totally off-base ('My doctor says I am just fine'). What a vicious cycle. mitchell_kristin wrote: > I think most doctors still don't want to treat BPs. It makes me very > angry the way they allow people, especially those without money, to > fall through the cracks of system. > My dad is in mental health field and he still claims BPs aren't > treatable at all. I think that attitude is really screwed up, there > are many people affected by this disease and we all need help. > It's pitiful! > > > > > > > > > > > Guys, > > > > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far > > as > > > they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have > > > heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to > > swam > > > to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has > > to > > > swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, > > nada > > > wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had > > warrants > > > for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the > > > cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' > > > know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the > > > government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a > > > safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after > > she > > > has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' > > > drowning " herself? > > > > MC > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green > > Center. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 What an important topic! Not only do most doctors not /want/ to treat BP, many primary care physicians entirely /miss/ the diagnosis. Many know very little about the illness and therefore cannot refer the BP to psychiatric help. My mother can fool her physician into thinking that she is 'quite normal' and doing well. I was always the one sounding the alarm and then being made to look totally off-base ('My doctor says I am just fine'). What a vicious cycle. mitchell_kristin wrote: > I think most doctors still don't want to treat BPs. It makes me very > angry the way they allow people, especially those without money, to > fall through the cracks of system. > My dad is in mental health field and he still claims BPs aren't > treatable at all. I think that attitude is really screwed up, there > are many people affected by this disease and we all need help. > It's pitiful! > > > > > > > > > > > Guys, > > > > I'm amazed how accurate the description of the waif is as far > > as > > > they will 'drown' themselves. I alwasy remeber that when I have > > > heard that nada has done soemthing incredibly dumb. I chose to > > swam > > > to shore and I remember that passage that sometimes the child has > > to > > > swim to shore alone, that's me. More on that whole situation, > > nada > > > wrote an insane letter to my aunt about how hte police had > > warrants > > > for her to be taken in the hospital and how she had to fix the > > > cellar. (Alwasy flooded, unless something major happened I dont' > > > know about) blah blah blah, but in a crazy fashion. Maybe the > > > government has finally caught on to her and will lock her up in a > > > safe place. and yeah I don't have to deal with the house after > > she > > > has gone. Ayone else kids of the extreme waif who winds up ' > > > drowning " herself? > > > > MC > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green > > Center. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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