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I've had moments like these since I was four years old. Like this world around me was not real. Like the whole thing is a joke. The more I've read more deeply into spiritual teachings of different sources, the explanation is the same everywhere. I don't worry about it too much. It is what it is.

I don't if that connects at all to what you are saying. But what you said about feeling disconnected is how I feel quite often. But I don't see that as a bad thing. It just is.

Subject: De-personalizationTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 3:40 PM

A few years ago, I was living in a stressful situation where I had three jobs, college and a failing relationship. One day as I went down the stairs to my room something "snapped." It was a quick realization that I was no longer "in my own body." Disconnected, going through the motions blindly, thoughtlessly and looking at my world through a haze. I would rub my eyes but I had the same feelings no matter what. Its sometimes like there are cotton balls behind my eyes. Since that fateful afternoon, I have had less and more stressful times. I know that the stress may have caused it, but I cannot escape it. I feel detached from everything and everyone. Making it worse is 4s. This 4s has caused my stress level to heighten and deepen the depersonalization. I was wondering if anyone else has ever felt this depersonalized state? If so, what things have you done to help alleviate it? I will be honest, alcohol helps a little, but of course that is not a good

drug to incorporate into stressful situations, especially 4s. P.S.My mom just approached me with a mouthful of cookie, as my reflexes did their job, I was instantly horrified. Thankfully I had my earphones on. I was visually triggered, but the auditory system was saved allowing me to maintain my demeanor and treat her like any other mom approaching her son to taste the cookies. I can't deal with this my whole life, I don't want to be this angry and detached.

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I've had moments like these since I was four years old. Like this world around me was not real. Like the whole thing is a joke. The more I've read more deeply into spiritual teachings of different sources, the explanation is the same everywhere. I don't worry about it too much. It is what it is.

I don't if that connects at all to what you are saying. But what you said about feeling disconnected is how I feel quite often. But I don't see that as a bad thing. It just is.

Subject: De-personalizationTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 3:40 PM

A few years ago, I was living in a stressful situation where I had three jobs, college and a failing relationship. One day as I went down the stairs to my room something "snapped." It was a quick realization that I was no longer "in my own body." Disconnected, going through the motions blindly, thoughtlessly and looking at my world through a haze. I would rub my eyes but I had the same feelings no matter what. Its sometimes like there are cotton balls behind my eyes. Since that fateful afternoon, I have had less and more stressful times. I know that the stress may have caused it, but I cannot escape it. I feel detached from everything and everyone. Making it worse is 4s. This 4s has caused my stress level to heighten and deepen the depersonalization. I was wondering if anyone else has ever felt this depersonalized state? If so, what things have you done to help alleviate it? I will be honest, alcohol helps a little, but of course that is not a good

drug to incorporate into stressful situations, especially 4s. P.S.My mom just approached me with a mouthful of cookie, as my reflexes did their job, I was instantly horrified. Thankfully I had my earphones on. I was visually triggered, but the auditory system was saved allowing me to maintain my demeanor and treat her like any other mom approaching her son to taste the cookies. I can't deal with this my whole life, I don't want to be this angry and detached.

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I have had this kind of experience after a emotionally traumatic experience in my teenage years. Felt numb depersonalized out of body for about a week. Occasionally it still happens, if I am really really freaking out. Then I either completely shut down or throw a kind of disembodied fit, though me losing control and throwing a fit is very rare.You may be cutting yourself off from your emotions, because maybe they are too overwhelming for you, which is what happened in my case. Though I can't say that is your case or what to do about it, as I am in no way qualified to do so. To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 5:40:54 PMSubject: De-personalization

A few years ago, I was living in a stressful situation where I had three jobs, college and a failing relationship. One day as I went down the stairs to my room something "snapped." It was a quick realization that I was no longer "in my own body." Disconnected, going through the motions blindly, thoughtlessly and looking at my world through a haze. I would rub my eyes but I had the same feelings no matter what. Its sometimes like there are cotton balls behind my eyes. Since that fateful afternoon, I have had less and more stressful times. I know that the stress may have caused it, but I cannot escape it. I feel detached from everything and everyone. Making it worse is 4s. This 4s has caused my stress level to heighten and deepen the depersonalization. I was wondering if anyone else has ever felt this depersonalized state? If so, what things have you done to help alleviate it? I will be honest, alcohol helps a little, but of course that is not a

good drug to incorporate into stressful situations, especially 4s.

P.S.

My mom just approached me with a mouthful of cookie, as my reflexes did their job, I was instantly horrified. Thankfully I had my earphones on. I was visually triggered, but the auditory system was saved allowing me to maintain my demeanor and treat her like any other mom approaching her son to taste the cookies. I can't deal with this my whole life, I don't want to be this angry and detached.

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I used to have episodes similar as a child, kind of what I thought was

a trance-like state, kind of there but not there. I guess I outgrew it

or something. It was kind of a nice place to be. Sometimes I miss

it:)

De-personalization

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Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 3:40 PM

  A few years ago, I was living in a stressful situation where I had

three jobs, college and a failing relationship. One day as I went down

the stairs to my room something " snapped. " It was a quick realization

that I was no longer " in my own body. " Disconnected, going through the

motions blindly, thoughtlessly and looking at my world through a haze.

I would rub my eyes but I had the same feelings no matter what. Its

sometimes like there are cotton balls behind my eyes. Since that

fateful afternoon, I have had less and more stressful times. I know

that the stress may have caused it, but I cannot escape it. I feel

detached from everything and everyone. Making it worse is 4s. This 4s

has caused my stress level to heighten and deepen the

depersonalization. I was wondering if anyone else has ever felt this

depersonalized state? If so, what things have you done to help

alleviate it? I will be honest, alcohol helps a little, but of course

that is not a good drug to incorporate into stressful situations,

especially 4s.

P.S.

My mom just approached me with a mouthful of cookie, as my reflexes did

their job, I was instantly horrified. Thankfully I had my earphones on.

I was visually triggered, but the auditory system was saved allowing me

to maintain my demeanor and treat her like any other mom approaching

her son to taste the cookies. I can't deal with this my whole life, I

don't want to be this angry and detached.

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Hi, I have just gotten over my 4th nervous breakdown in 30 years. I have had episodes of anxiety/panic and agoraphobia as a result. One of my main symptoms of anxiety was depersonalisation and I have only just got over it! It lasted the best part of 3.5 years on this occasion. I agree Lynn, it is like being in a trance. Like you know you are there, but you aren't somehow. Its one of the worst things I have ever experienced and even stopped me from driving for the best part of a year! Here is a link to a web page about it.http://www.anxietynomore.co.uk/depersonalisation_and_derealisation.htmlI called depersonalisation, unreality. Always have done. Thank goodness its

gone now.ShirleyTo: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tue, 16 February, 2010 9:03:05Subject: Re: De-personalizationI used to have episodes similar as a child, kind of what I thought was a trance-like state, kind of there but not there. I guess I outgrew it or something. It was kind of a nice place to be. Sometimes I miss it:) De-personalizationTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 3:40 PM A few years ago, I was living in a stressful situation where I had three jobs, college and a failing relationship. One day as I went down the stairs to my room something "snapped." It was a quick realization that I was no longer "in my own body." Disconnected, going through the motions blindly, thoughtlessly and looking at my world through a haze. I would rub my eyes but I had the same feelings no matter what. Its sometimes like there are cotton

balls behind my eyes. Since that fateful afternoon, I have had less and more stressful times. I know that the stress may have caused it, but I cannot escape it. I feel detached from everything and everyone. Making it worse is 4s. This 4s has caused my stress level to heighten and deepen the depersonalization. I was wondering if anyone else has ever felt this depersonalized state? If so, what things have you done to help alleviate it? I will be honest, alcohol helps a little, but of course that is not a good drug to incorporate into stressful situations, especially 4s.P.S.My mom just approached me with a mouthful of cookie, as my reflexes did their job, I was instantly horrified. Thankfully I had my earphones on. I was visually triggered, but the auditory system was saved allowing me to maintain my demeanor and treat her like any other mom approaching her son to taste the cookies. I can't

deal with this my whole life, I don't want to be this angry and detached. ------------------------------------PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE.Thank you. MJ

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In 2000 I was at work and the room started to spin and my heart raced. I had

never had a panic attack before, and from what I heard of them, they weren't as

bad as this. It lasted two whole weeks.

I've not been the same since and lost my job in NYC and had to move to take care

of my parents.

My vision, hearing and memory have not been the same since. I was 31 when it

happened and it was like I was struck down and woke up like I was looking thru

glass now forever.

I had insurance then and had an MRI, was tested for metal poisons, went on psych

drugs, extreme candida diets, thyroid meds, blah blah blah. Nothing help

really.

Antihistimines helped me get back to work for a few more months but then had

another attack.

Nothing stressfull happened, the only correlation btwn the two attacks was I ate

fast food those days.

When I gave up soy, the depersonalization wasn't as bad so I thought I had

misdiagnosed thyroid issues but the meds for that don't do anything pleasant for

me. I tried things for adrenal issues and those things make me more tired.

I can't take anything with estrogen in it or it makes my depersonalization ten

times worse. This means even estrogenic plants.

I feel more normal on alcohol than anything, but was never a big drinker.

I think that this woman on this site is on to something : www.sensiblehealth.com

and I wish I had the commitment to do the things she does but I get so depressed

that food is all I have and I hate the Asian diets, but it may be key to some

issues if you read her site thoroughly.

Hi fats are a problem for me, yet I crave them. Exercise helps.

Hydrogenated foods are off my list for sure though. Whenever I eat stuff like

that my 4s issues increase.

Oh and if someone reading this thinks food has no impact on personality issues

or whatev, then take a look at alcohol. Hormones and pesticides are in foods

now and who knows what else cuz ppl flush

their meds down the toilet and our water filters don't clear them out.

I don't know the answer but I wish someone could hypnotizing me in to not having

taste buds so I could see if that is really the answer for me.

I did do one of those gallstone flushes and felt loads better after but the

actual flush was HELL. Esp if you get low blood sugar attacks.

>

> A few years ago, I was living in a stressful situation where I had three jobs,

college and a failing relationship. One day as I went down the stairs to my room

something " snapped. " It was a quick realization that I was no longer " in my own

body. " Disconnected, going through the motions blindly, thoughtlessly and

looking at my world through a haze. I would rub my eyes but I had the same

feelings no matter what. Its sometimes like there are cotton balls behind my

eyes. Since that fateful afternoon, I have had less and more stressful times. I

know that the stress may have caused it, but I cannot escape it. I feel detached

from everything and everyone. Making it worse is 4s. This 4s has caused my

stress level to heighten and deepen the depersonalization. I was wondering if

anyone else has ever felt this depersonalized state? If so, what things have you

done to help alleviate it? I will be honest, alcohol helps a little, but of

course that is not a good drug to incorporate into stressful situations,

especially 4s.

>

> P.S.

> My mom just approached me with a mouthful of cookie, as my reflexes did their

job, I was instantly horrified. Thankfully I had my earphones on. I was visually

triggered, but the auditory system was saved allowing me to maintain my demeanor

and treat her like any other mom approaching her son to taste the cookies. I

can't deal with this my whole life, I don't want to be this angry and detached.

>

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In 2000 I was at work and the room started to spin and my heart raced. I had

never had a panic attack before, and from what I heard of them, they weren't as

bad as this. It lasted two whole weeks.

I've not been the same since and lost my job in NYC and had to move to take care

of my parents.

My vision, hearing and memory have not been the same since. I was 31 when it

happened and it was like I was struck down and woke up like I was looking thru

glass now forever.

I had insurance then and had an MRI, was tested for metal poisons, went on psych

drugs, extreme candida diets, thyroid meds, blah blah blah. Nothing help

really.

Antihistimines helped me get back to work for a few more months but then had

another attack.

Nothing stressfull happened, the only correlation btwn the two attacks was I ate

fast food those days.

When I gave up soy, the depersonalization wasn't as bad so I thought I had

misdiagnosed thyroid issues but the meds for that don't do anything pleasant for

me. I tried things for adrenal issues and those things make me more tired.

I can't take anything with estrogen in it or it makes my depersonalization ten

times worse. This means even estrogenic plants.

I feel more normal on alcohol than anything, but was never a big drinker.

I think that this woman on this site is on to something : www.sensiblehealth.com

and I wish I had the commitment to do the things she does but I get so depressed

that food is all I have and I hate the Asian diets, but it may be key to some

issues if you read her site thoroughly.

Hi fats are a problem for me, yet I crave them. Exercise helps.

Hydrogenated foods are off my list for sure though. Whenever I eat stuff like

that my 4s issues increase.

Oh and if someone reading this thinks food has no impact on personality issues

or whatev, then take a look at alcohol. Hormones and pesticides are in foods

now and who knows what else cuz ppl flush

their meds down the toilet and our water filters don't clear them out.

I don't know the answer but I wish someone could hypnotizing me in to not having

taste buds so I could see if that is really the answer for me.

I did do one of those gallstone flushes and felt loads better after but the

actual flush was HELL. Esp if you get low blood sugar attacks.

>

> A few years ago, I was living in a stressful situation where I had three jobs,

college and a failing relationship. One day as I went down the stairs to my room

something " snapped. " It was a quick realization that I was no longer " in my own

body. " Disconnected, going through the motions blindly, thoughtlessly and

looking at my world through a haze. I would rub my eyes but I had the same

feelings no matter what. Its sometimes like there are cotton balls behind my

eyes. Since that fateful afternoon, I have had less and more stressful times. I

know that the stress may have caused it, but I cannot escape it. I feel detached

from everything and everyone. Making it worse is 4s. This 4s has caused my

stress level to heighten and deepen the depersonalization. I was wondering if

anyone else has ever felt this depersonalized state? If so, what things have you

done to help alleviate it? I will be honest, alcohol helps a little, but of

course that is not a good drug to incorporate into stressful situations,

especially 4s.

>

> P.S.

> My mom just approached me with a mouthful of cookie, as my reflexes did their

job, I was instantly horrified. Thankfully I had my earphones on. I was visually

triggered, but the auditory system was saved allowing me to maintain my demeanor

and treat her like any other mom approaching her son to taste the cookies. I

can't deal with this my whole life, I don't want to be this angry and detached.

>

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Been there, done that. Granma, Dad's mom, had been diagnosed with cancer right on her neck. She wasn't going to get chemo or surgery. I was in danger of losing my job when someone was buying it. I was alone house/pet-sitting for a long stretch of time. The Prozac wasn't working any more, and I lost four or more friends 'cause I was slowly coming unbalanced and losing creativity. I finally went numb, started contemplating suicide again or going for alcohol. I was hoping I would stay numb for a good long while; I thought it would be better than feeling anything. I call that experience "the time I peeked over the edge of insanity."Sometimes I wonder why I decided I wanted to get better. But I did, and I finally talked about it, got new medication, and started trying to move on.= M-F.> To: Soundsensitivity > Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:40:54 +0000> Subject: De-personalization> > A few years ago, I was living in a stressful situation where I had three jobs, college and a failing relationship. One day as I went down the stairs to my room something "snapped." It was a quick realization that I was no longer "in my own body." Disconnected, going through the motions blindly, thoughtlessly and looking at my world through a haze. I would rub my eyes but I had the same feelings no matter what. Its sometimes like there are cotton balls behind my eyes. Since that fateful afternoon, I have had less and more stressful times. I know that the stress may have caused it, but I cannot escape it. I feel detached from everything and everyone. Making it worse is 4s. This 4s has caused my stress level to heighten and deepen the depersonalization. I was wondering if anyone else has ever felt this depersonalized state? If so, what things have you done to help alleviate it? I will be honest, alcohol helps a little, but of course that is not a good drug to incorporate into stressful situations, especially 4s. The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started.

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