Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Hello group, At the risk of posting too much, I can't deny this any longer. I have been fighting mental illness since I was about 12. After a car accident (age 15) my personality changed completely. My personal struggle with 4s has contributed to a few deposits in the crazy bank, and has shielded me from other issues that are past due in dealing with, and I've exhausted all avenues in searching for the problem. Appearing " normal " has sapped my energy for years, preventing me from actually living. I was almost committed last week when a concerned family member called the police and had a warrant issued for my immediate commital. I narrowly escaped, but my only option was to see the truth of my situation: I have undealt with issues, and I've had to adapt to a new way if living without knowing it. Too many head injuries have made me the equivalent of a " punchy " boxer, every thought I have makes sense until I open my mouth to speak and then something else comes out. I have 4s, but not OCD, aspergers or autism. I lie a lot, fear almost every confrontational situation, and since my accident last year I yell a lot. I don't know what the effects this acceptance will have for my 4s,but I have a long road and I will stay (on this list) and try to deal with this. I'm not out for pity; that's the last thing I need. I'm out for some answers, and just to deal with the hand I was dealt. Thanks for listening, Kip From the Mind of Gordo __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Hey Kip,Sorry to hear it's not going well. I take medication for depression, runs in the family here. But I know also people with brain diseases like alzheimers go thru personality changes too. I am not surprised after all you have been thru that you are not the same person. Has anyone suggested medication to you with your personality changes? I don't like taking drugs, but came to a point I didn't feel like I had a choice. There are much worse things, it has made life easier in some ways.ITo: "soundsensitivity " <soundsensitivity >Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 12:34:27 PMSubject: Mental illness Hello group, At the risk of posting too much, I can't deny this any longer. I have been fighting mental illness since I was about 12. After a car accident (age 15) my personality changed completely. My personal struggle with 4s has contributed to a few deposits in the crazy bank, and has shielded me from other issues that are past due in dealing with, and I've exhausted all avenues in searching for the problem. Appearing "normal" has sapped my energy for years, preventing me from actually living. I was almost committed last week when a concerned family member called the police and had a warrant issued for my immediate commital. I narrowly escaped, but my only option was to see the truth of my situation: I have undealt with issues, and I've had to adapt to a new way if living without knowing it. Too many head injuries have made me the equivalent of a "punchy" boxer, every thought I have makes sense until I open my mouth to speak and then something else comes out. I have 4s, but not OCD, aspergers or autism. I lie a lot, fear almost every confrontational situation, and since my accident last year I yell a lot. I don't know what the effects this acceptance will have for my 4s,but I have a long road and I will stay (on this list) and try to deal with this. I'm not out for pity; that's the last thing I need. I'm out for some answers, and just to deal with the hand I was dealt. Thanks for listening, Kip From the Mind of Gordo ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar. yahoo.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Hey Kip,Sorry to hear it's not going well. I take medication for depression, runs in the family here. But I know also people with brain diseases like alzheimers go thru personality changes too. I am not surprised after all you have been thru that you are not the same person. Has anyone suggested medication to you with your personality changes? I don't like taking drugs, but came to a point I didn't feel like I had a choice. There are much worse things, it has made life easier in some ways.ITo: "soundsensitivity " <soundsensitivity >Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 12:34:27 PMSubject: Mental illness Hello group, At the risk of posting too much, I can't deny this any longer. I have been fighting mental illness since I was about 12. After a car accident (age 15) my personality changed completely. My personal struggle with 4s has contributed to a few deposits in the crazy bank, and has shielded me from other issues that are past due in dealing with, and I've exhausted all avenues in searching for the problem. Appearing "normal" has sapped my energy for years, preventing me from actually living. I was almost committed last week when a concerned family member called the police and had a warrant issued for my immediate commital. I narrowly escaped, but my only option was to see the truth of my situation: I have undealt with issues, and I've had to adapt to a new way if living without knowing it. Too many head injuries have made me the equivalent of a "punchy" boxer, every thought I have makes sense until I open my mouth to speak and then something else comes out. I have 4s, but not OCD, aspergers or autism. I lie a lot, fear almost every confrontational situation, and since my accident last year I yell a lot. I don't know what the effects this acceptance will have for my 4s,but I have a long road and I will stay (on this list) and try to deal with this. I'm not out for pity; that's the last thing I need. I'm out for some answers, and just to deal with the hand I was dealt. Thanks for listening, Kip From the Mind of Gordo ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar. yahoo.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Kip... you hang in there! Accepting certain things in your life and working though issues not yet dealt with is the only way to move forward. We are here for you! > > > Hello group, > > At the risk of posting too much, I can't deny this any longer. > > I have been fighting mental illness since I was about 12. After a car accident (age 15) my personality changed completely. My personal struggle with 4s has contributed to a few deposits in the crazy bank, and has shielded me from other issues that are past due in dealing with, and I've exhausted all avenues in searching for the problem. > > Appearing " normal " has sapped my energy for years, preventing me from actually living. I was almost committed last week when a concerned family member called the police and had a warrant issued for my immediate commital. I narrowly escaped, but my only option was to see the truth of my situation: I have undealt with issues, and I've had to adapt to a new way if living without knowing it. > > Too many head injuries have made me the equivalent of a " punchy " boxer, every thought I have makes sense until I open my mouth to speak and then something else comes out. > > I have 4s, but not OCD, aspergers or autism. I lie a lot, fear almost every confrontational situation, and since my accident last year I yell a lot. > > I don't know what the effects this acceptance will have for my 4s,but I have a long road and I will stay (on this list) and try to deal with this. > > I'm not out for pity; that's the last thing I need. I'm out for some answers, and just to deal with the hand I was dealt. > > Thanks for listening, > Kip > From the Mind of Gordo > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Kip... you hang in there! Accepting certain things in your life and working though issues not yet dealt with is the only way to move forward. We are here for you! > > > Hello group, > > At the risk of posting too much, I can't deny this any longer. > > I have been fighting mental illness since I was about 12. After a car accident (age 15) my personality changed completely. My personal struggle with 4s has contributed to a few deposits in the crazy bank, and has shielded me from other issues that are past due in dealing with, and I've exhausted all avenues in searching for the problem. > > Appearing " normal " has sapped my energy for years, preventing me from actually living. I was almost committed last week when a concerned family member called the police and had a warrant issued for my immediate commital. I narrowly escaped, but my only option was to see the truth of my situation: I have undealt with issues, and I've had to adapt to a new way if living without knowing it. > > Too many head injuries have made me the equivalent of a " punchy " boxer, every thought I have makes sense until I open my mouth to speak and then something else comes out. > > I have 4s, but not OCD, aspergers or autism. I lie a lot, fear almost every confrontational situation, and since my accident last year I yell a lot. > > I don't know what the effects this acceptance will have for my 4s,but I have a long road and I will stay (on this list) and try to deal with this. > > I'm not out for pity; that's the last thing I need. I'm out for some answers, and just to deal with the hand I was dealt. > > Thanks for listening, > Kip > From the Mind of Gordo > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I can't take the drugs. I was given paxil and all I could think about was killing myself and I wasn't like that before. Celexa made me just sit there and gave me bumps all over my skin. I try natural stuff, Amino Acids, Sam-e helps when I remember to take it, Magnesium helps, Inositol is supposed to help but I keep forgetting to take that too. I'm having a very depressed week being single with not one person I like in 450 mile radius and creepy Valentine's Day in my face. Some jerk stalks me, and my cat was sick this week which breaks me into small pieces thinking of him in pain. It's already spring in Florida so I'm throwing everything out as if I only have months to live (who knows?). Maybe clearing out the old will make room for something new, but I want to keep my cat! PK > > Hey Kip, > Sorry to hear it's not going well. I take medication for depression, runs in the family here. But I know also people with brain diseases like alzheimers go thru personality changes too. I am not surprised after all you have been thru that you are not the same person. Has anyone suggested medication to you with your personality changes? I don't like taking drugs, but came to a point I didn't feel like I had a choice. There are much worse things, it has made life easier in some ways. > > > > > ________________________________ > I > To: " soundsensitivity " <soundsensitivity > > Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 12:34:27 PM > Subject: Mental illness > > > > Hello group, > > At the risk of posting too much, I can't deny this any longer. > > I have been fighting mental illness since I was about 12. After a car accident (age 15) my personality changed completely. My personal struggle with 4s has contributed to a few deposits in the crazy bank, and has shielded me from other issues that are past due in dealing with, and I've exhausted all avenues in searching for the problem. > > Appearing " normal " has sapped my energy for years, preventing me from actually living. I was almost committed last week when a concerned family member called the police and had a warrant issued for my immediate commital. I narrowly escaped, but my only option was to see the truth of my situation: I have undealt with issues, and I've had to adapt to a new way if living without knowing it. > > Too many head injuries have made me the equivalent of a " punchy " boxer, every thought I have makes sense until I open my mouth to speak and then something else comes out. > > I have 4s, but not OCD, aspergers or autism. I lie a lot, fear almost every confrontational situation, and since my accident last year I yell a lot. > > I don't know what the effects this acceptance will have for my 4s,but I have a long road and I will stay (on this list) and try to deal with this. > > I'm not out for pity; that's the last thing I need. I'm out for some answers, and just to deal with the hand I was dealt. > > Thanks for listening, > Kip > From the Mind of Gordo > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar. yahoo.com. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I can't take the drugs. I was given paxil and all I could think about was killing myself and I wasn't like that before. Celexa made me just sit there and gave me bumps all over my skin. I try natural stuff, Amino Acids, Sam-e helps when I remember to take it, Magnesium helps, Inositol is supposed to help but I keep forgetting to take that too. I'm having a very depressed week being single with not one person I like in 450 mile radius and creepy Valentine's Day in my face. Some jerk stalks me, and my cat was sick this week which breaks me into small pieces thinking of him in pain. It's already spring in Florida so I'm throwing everything out as if I only have months to live (who knows?). Maybe clearing out the old will make room for something new, but I want to keep my cat! PK > > Hey Kip, > Sorry to hear it's not going well. I take medication for depression, runs in the family here. But I know also people with brain diseases like alzheimers go thru personality changes too. I am not surprised after all you have been thru that you are not the same person. Has anyone suggested medication to you with your personality changes? I don't like taking drugs, but came to a point I didn't feel like I had a choice. There are much worse things, it has made life easier in some ways. > > > > > ________________________________ > I > To: " soundsensitivity " <soundsensitivity > > Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 12:34:27 PM > Subject: Mental illness > > > > Hello group, > > At the risk of posting too much, I can't deny this any longer. > > I have been fighting mental illness since I was about 12. After a car accident (age 15) my personality changed completely. My personal struggle with 4s has contributed to a few deposits in the crazy bank, and has shielded me from other issues that are past due in dealing with, and I've exhausted all avenues in searching for the problem. > > Appearing " normal " has sapped my energy for years, preventing me from actually living. I was almost committed last week when a concerned family member called the police and had a warrant issued for my immediate commital. I narrowly escaped, but my only option was to see the truth of my situation: I have undealt with issues, and I've had to adapt to a new way if living without knowing it. > > Too many head injuries have made me the equivalent of a " punchy " boxer, every thought I have makes sense until I open my mouth to speak and then something else comes out. > > I have 4s, but not OCD, aspergers or autism. I lie a lot, fear almost every confrontational situation, and since my accident last year I yell a lot. > > I don't know what the effects this acceptance will have for my 4s,but I have a long road and I will stay (on this list) and try to deal with this. > > I'm not out for pity; that's the last thing I need. I'm out for some answers, and just to deal with the hand I was dealt. > > Thanks for listening, > Kip > From the Mind of Gordo > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar. yahoo.com. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 i had the same reactions to paxil, prozac, cylexa, none helped and i only had the bad side affects. there are reasons when i'm depressed i think so taking care of those if i can will help, not taking a pill. i have a diagnosis (which i hate) of mild bipolar or as my mom used to say 'you're either way up or way down'......true. when i wake, i wake into darkness and gloom and as the day goes on and now,i start feeling better and hopeful and now, at midnight:40, i'm 'up'....not working so not on a good schedule. when i was working, i did feel better but am off since 99 due to physical/emotional reasons. the sound sensitivity wasn't even a part of that and now, it's the worst part. i found a p/t job in 07 and 08 and i have to say, i felt better all the way around. hoping i might be able to go back to work at some point. i really feel for all of you who are going through hell right now. at least we have each other. donnie > > > > Hey Kip, > > Sorry to hear it's not going well. I take medication for depression, runs in the family here. But I know also people with brain diseases like alzheimers go thru personality changes too. I am not surprised after all you have been thru that you are not the same person. Has anyone suggested medication to you with your personality changes? I don't like taking drugs, but came to a point I didn't feel like I had a choice. There are much worse things, it has made life easier in some ways. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > IFrom: Gordon <kip.gordon@> > > To: " soundsensitivity " <soundsensitivity > > > Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 12:34:27 PM > > Subject: Mental illness > > > > > > > > Hello group, > > > > At the risk of posting too much, I can't deny this any longer. > > > > I have been fighting mental illness since I was about 12. After a car accident (age 15) my personality changed completely. My personal struggle with 4s has contributed to a few deposits in the crazy bank, and has shielded me from other issues that are past due in dealing with, and I've exhausted all avenues in searching for the problem. > > > > Appearing " normal " has sapped my energy for years, preventing me from actually living. I was almost committed last week when a concerned family member called the police and had a warrant issued for my immediate commital. I narrowly escaped, but my only option was to see the truth of my situation: I have undealt with issues, and I've had to adapt to a new way if living without knowing it. > > > > Too many head injuries have made me the equivalent of a " punchy " boxer, every thought I have makes sense until I open my mouth to speak and then something else comes out. > > > > I have 4s, but not OCD, aspergers or autism. I lie a lot, fear almost every confrontational situation, and since my accident last year I yell a lot. > > > > I don't know what the effects this acceptance will have for my 4s,but I have a long road and I will stay (on this list) and try to deal with this. > > > > I'm not out for pity; that's the last thing I need. I'm out for some answers, and just to deal with the hand I was dealt. > > > > Thanks for listening, > > Kip > > From the Mind of Gordo > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > > http://ca.toolbar. yahoo.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 i had the same reactions to paxil, prozac, cylexa, none helped and i only had the bad side affects. there are reasons when i'm depressed i think so taking care of those if i can will help, not taking a pill. i have a diagnosis (which i hate) of mild bipolar or as my mom used to say 'you're either way up or way down'......true. when i wake, i wake into darkness and gloom and as the day goes on and now,i start feeling better and hopeful and now, at midnight:40, i'm 'up'....not working so not on a good schedule. when i was working, i did feel better but am off since 99 due to physical/emotional reasons. the sound sensitivity wasn't even a part of that and now, it's the worst part. i found a p/t job in 07 and 08 and i have to say, i felt better all the way around. hoping i might be able to go back to work at some point. i really feel for all of you who are going through hell right now. at least we have each other. donnie > > > > Hey Kip, > > Sorry to hear it's not going well. I take medication for depression, runs in the family here. But I know also people with brain diseases like alzheimers go thru personality changes too. I am not surprised after all you have been thru that you are not the same person. Has anyone suggested medication to you with your personality changes? I don't like taking drugs, but came to a point I didn't feel like I had a choice. There are much worse things, it has made life easier in some ways. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > IFrom: Gordon <kip.gordon@> > > To: " soundsensitivity " <soundsensitivity > > > Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 12:34:27 PM > > Subject: Mental illness > > > > > > > > Hello group, > > > > At the risk of posting too much, I can't deny this any longer. > > > > I have been fighting mental illness since I was about 12. After a car accident (age 15) my personality changed completely. My personal struggle with 4s has contributed to a few deposits in the crazy bank, and has shielded me from other issues that are past due in dealing with, and I've exhausted all avenues in searching for the problem. > > > > Appearing " normal " has sapped my energy for years, preventing me from actually living. I was almost committed last week when a concerned family member called the police and had a warrant issued for my immediate commital. I narrowly escaped, but my only option was to see the truth of my situation: I have undealt with issues, and I've had to adapt to a new way if living without knowing it. > > > > Too many head injuries have made me the equivalent of a " punchy " boxer, every thought I have makes sense until I open my mouth to speak and then something else comes out. > > > > I have 4s, but not OCD, aspergers or autism. I lie a lot, fear almost every confrontational situation, and since my accident last year I yell a lot. > > > > I don't know what the effects this acceptance will have for my 4s,but I have a long road and I will stay (on this list) and try to deal with this. > > > > I'm not out for pity; that's the last thing I need. I'm out for some answers, and just to deal with the hand I was dealt. > > > > Thanks for listening, > > Kip > > From the Mind of Gordo > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > > http://ca.toolbar. yahoo.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 The drugs do have side effects it is true. For some people it is not worth it, for others the drugs can be lifesavers. They can keep people out of the hospital, functioning, working, going to school, taking care of their kids. I had a huge problem with side effects in the beginning, I have a very reactive system. I had to cut the doses down into to little mouse size portions and slowly gradually work my way up to normal size dosage. Also because I was having so much trouble with the newer SSRI drugs my doctor in the beginning put me on the older drugs, which for some reason had less side effects for me. I hate taking them, but recurrent depressions were seriously messing up my brain and were getting worse and worse and harder to get out of. And the drugs gave me the extra boost that I needed to do the hard psychological work of taking better care of myself.I am very grateful that we have these drugs available, as there are people in my family with really serious mental illness, I hate to think how life would have gone without this alternative. Unfortunately, there is still so much stigma associated with mental illness and the drugs used to treat it. But least we don't think mentally ill people are possessed by the devil anymore.To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 2:44:33 AMSubject: Re: Mental illness i had the same reactions to paxil, prozac, cylexa, none helped and i only had the bad side affects. there are reasons when i'm depressed i think so taking care of those if i can will help, not taking a pill. i have a diagnosis (which i hate) of mild bipolar or as my mom used to say 'you're either way up or way down'......true. when i wake, i wake into darkness and gloom and as the day goes on and now,i start feeling better and hopeful and now, at midnight:40, i'm 'up'....not working so not on a good schedule. when i was working, i did feel better but am off since 99 due to physical/emotional reasons. the sound sensitivity wasn't even a part of that and now, it's the worst part. i found a p/t job in 07 and 08 and i have to say, i felt better all the way around. hoping i might be able to go back to work at some point. i really feel for all of you who are going through hell right now. at least we have each other. donnie > > > > Hey Kip, > > Sorry to hear it's not going well. I take medication for depression, runs in the family here. But I know also people with brain diseases like alzheimers go thru personality changes too. I am not surprised after all you have been thru that you are not the same person. Has anyone suggested medication to you with your personality changes? I don't like taking drugs, but came to a point I didn't feel like I had a choice. There are much worse things, it has made life easier in some ways. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > IFrom: Gordon <kip.gordon@ > > > To: "soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com" <soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 12:34:27 PM > > Subject: Mental illness > > > > > > > > Hello group, > > > > At the risk of posting too much, I can't deny this any longer. > > > > I have been fighting mental illness since I was about 12. After a car accident (age 15) my personality changed completely. My personal struggle with 4s has contributed to a few deposits in the crazy bank, and has shielded me from other issues that are past due in dealing with, and I've exhausted all avenues in searching for the problem. > > > > Appearing "normal" has sapped my energy for years, preventing me from actually living. I was almost committed last week when a concerned family member called the police and had a warrant issued for my immediate commital. I narrowly escaped, but my only option was to see the truth of my situation: I have undealt with issues, and I've had to adapt to a new way if living without knowing it. > > > > Too many head injuries have made me the equivalent of a "punchy" boxer, every thought I have makes sense until I open my mouth to speak and then something else comes out. > > > > I have 4s, but not OCD, aspergers or autism. I lie a lot, fear almost every confrontational situation, and since my accident last year I yell a lot. > > > > I don't know what the effects this acceptance will have for my 4s,but I have a long road and I will stay (on this list) and try to deal with this. > > > > I'm not out for pity; that's the last thing I need. I'm out for some answers, and just to deal with the hand I was dealt. > > > > Thanks for listening, > > Kip > > From the Mind of Gordo > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > > http://ca.toolbar. yahoo.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I took Paxil for 7 years and it did wonders for me. It basically cured my anxiety/Panic disorder and my OCD. The only side effect for me being on it was that I was constantly tired. It got better the longer I was on it. The worst part was actually getting off the drug. I has these weird electrical like pulses in my head. I hear it's quite common. But I felt that I was at a point in my life that I was thinking more clearly and was able to tackle my anxiety and OCD without drugs. It was the Paxil that enabled me to think through things and be able to do that. For me, it was worth taking it for how much it helped me. > > The drugs do have side effects it is true. For some people it is not worth it, for others the drugs can be lifesavers. They can keep people out of the hospital, functioning, working, going to school, taking care of their kids. I had a huge problem with side effects in the beginning, I have a very reactive system. I had to cut the doses down into to little mouse size portions and slowly gradually work my way up to normal size dosage. Also because I was having so much trouble with the newer SSRI drugs my doctor in the beginning put me on the older drugs, which for some reason had less side effects for me. I hate taking them, but recurrent depressions were seriously messing up my brain and were getting worse and worse and harder to get out of. And the drugs gave me the extra boost that I needed to do the hard psychological work of taking better care of myself. > I am very grateful that we have these drugs available, as there are people in my family with really serious mental illness, I hate to think how life would have gone without this alternative. Unfortunately, there is still so much stigma associated with mental illness and the drugs used to treat it. But least we don't think mentally ill people are possessed by the devil anymore. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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