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I used to be in a band with a guy who was obsessed with trains. He used to go

to a hobby store that sold them all the time.

He befriended the man who owned the store and when he retired the man let him

take over the store.

Check around and see if someone is " over " their biz, maybe you can take over or

buy them out over time.

I take care of my sick dad and I get $ that way cuz he can never be alone. I

wouldn't be able to stand a regular job right now.

I wish I had the patience to write books and the guarantee that they would sell,

that or write songs for someone else like Lady Gaga or someone that really

cashes in.

I probably would be a good tv writer but I live in Florida so not happening.

If I don't croak before my parents, I don't know what will become of me.

>

> Some people here have mentioned that 4S contributes to their introversion.

That's the case with me, too. I dislike being around a lot of people for

too-long periods of time. And I absolutely detest sitting in a cube farm--a

requirement for my current job. The SOUNDS play a significant part in that.

>

> I'm a technical writer, which is a relatively solitary way to make a living.

No problem there (though I DO have a problem churning files that nobody really

reads anyway, and which all end up in the recycling bin). I'm a nice guy, but am

not good at or interested in workplace politics. Just not good at fakin' it, and

you have to be invested in your work to be good at that stuff in the first

place. I am *constantly* plotting my escape from cubicle hell. It's especially

hellish when you have to share your personal space with some inconsiderate

F***wad who's always gabbing on the phone, slurping coffee, or chewing gum.

That's not me right now, but it has been and very well may be again. I just

cannot, WILL NOT tolerate it. The last time I had to share a cube with a

cud-muncher, I started telecommuting full-time--only possible because my boss

didn't know I was doing it.

>

> The thing is, I know the difference. I *have* had work where I was largely in

control of my own day and personal interactions. It was FANTASTIC! I was a much

happier person. Unfortunately, my wife wasn't OK with it (dare I admit? it

wasn't entirely legal), so ultimately I had to return to file-churning. But I

despair at the prospect of doing this, and hearing *all that,* for the rest of

my working life--at least 25 more years. I just can't tolerate that prospect. If

that's how it's going to be, take me out behind the shed and put me out of my

misery now.

>

> After much thought, I've decided that what I really want to do is open a

garden supplies store. I am very knowlegable about gardening, which happens to

be the most popular hobby in America. I have an entrepeneurial bent. I am a

natural at marketing. Misanthropy aside, I'm actually a very friendly guy and

would provide excellent service. I have a high tolerance for risk, not attached

to the illusory safety of a regular paycheck. I am no stranger to long hours or

hard work. Sure, gum-chewers would come into the store, but they wouldn't be

around me for eight hours of the day. Down side? Starting such a venture would

require a large capital outlay. At 43, I have less time to recover from mistakes

than a younger person would--and more to lose. Still, I am thinking hard about

how to make it happen. First step is to write a business plan.

>

> What about other folks here? How has 4S influenced your interactions with

people? The way you make your living? The way you move through life?

>

> Curious,

>

> Jay

>

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Oh heck yes has it. I avoid people who hurt my ears like the plague if possible, and just try to work around them if I can't (which can be torture), and if I get a job interview, I have to be upfront and say "I have extremely sensitive hearing -I can even hear dog whistles- and in order to be productive, I need a quiet room where I can work by myself or with one other person, and just listen to music." This can work out really well if you do physical labor that isn't in dangerous places; I worked alone a lot at a stable when I was younger.Anyway, the fact I was honest right off the bat about my ears and my insomnia, and showed samples of some of the jewelry I could make, meant I was hired on the spot for this little craft store. ^n_n^ Y'know how people tell ya "Go with your strengths"? They're absolutely right. I've been at that store since March 2007, and if y'all don't mind a little boasting, I keep that place ORGANIZED. My boss has told me I'm bulletproof; it would take showing up drugged or hungover to get me fired. I know the job market is horrible right now, and maybe your strengths aren't always marketable. But believe me, folks, there ARE understanding bosses out there, and when you find one who really needs your help, you'll have it made. Family members and friends can come to understand the problem, too. = M-F.> To: Soundsensitivity > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:10:36 +0000> Subject: Has 4S influenced your career choice?> > Some people here have mentioned that 4S contributes to their introversion. That's the case with me, too. I dislike being around a lot of people for too-long periods of time. And I absolutely detest sitting in a cube farm--a requirement for my current job. The SOUNDS play a significant part in that. > > I'm a technical writer, which is a relatively solitary way to make a living. No problem there (though I DO have a problem churning files that nobody really reads anyway, and which all end up in the recycling bin). I'm a nice guy, but am not good at or interested in workplace politics. Just not good at fakin' it, and you have to be invested in your work to be good at that stuff in the first place. I am *constantly* plotting my escape from cubicle hell. It's especially hellish when you have to share your personal space with some inconsiderate F***wad who's always gabbing on the phone, slurping coffee, or chewing gum. That's not me right now, but it has been and very well may be again. I just cannot, WILL NOT tolerate it. The last time I had to share a cube with a cud-muncher, I started telecommuting full-time--only possible because my boss didn't know I was doing it.> > The thing is, I know the difference. I *have* had work where I was largely in control of my own day and personal interactions. It was FANTASTIC! I was a much happier person. Unfortunately, my wife wasn't OK with it (dare I admit? it wasn't entirely legal), so ultimately I had to return to file-churning. But I despair at the prospect of doing this, and hearing *all that,* for the rest of my working life--at least 25 more years. I just can't tolerate that prospect. If that's how it's going to be, take me out behind the shed and put me out of my misery now. > > After much thought, I've decided that what I really want to do is open a garden supplies store. I am very knowlegable about gardening, which happens to be the most popular hobby in America. I have an entrepeneurial bent. I am a natural at marketing. Misanthropy aside, I'm actually a very friendly guy and would provide excellent service. I have a high tolerance for risk, not attached to the illusory safety of a regular paycheck. I am no stranger to long hours or hard work. Sure, gum-chewers would come into the store, but they wouldn't be around me for eight hours of the day. Down side? Starting such a venture would require a large capital outlay. At 43, I have less time to recover from mistakes than a younger person would--and more to lose. Still, I am thinking hard about how to make it happen. First step is to write a business plan. > > What about other folks here? How has 4S influenced your interactions with people? The way you make your living? The way you move through life? > > Curious, > > Jay Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.

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I encourage you to follow your dream. Your spirit comes through even on Internet when you talk about gardening.

I like being around people very much. But I abhor loud sounds and chemicals. I work with children. I'm in a position to take gum away, stop pencil tapping, etc. As for the stink and noise from the hallway. I shut my door a lot and my window is always open. That can come across as unfriendly. I be sure and tell people they are welcome in and it is shut because of the noises.

I don't know how people thrive amongst so much noise and toxins. That just drives me crazy. But that is just me. I'd probably be in an insane asylum if I lived like most people (no joke). Centered and balanced I do quite well. That is, when I'm in control of my environment. Don't know what would become of me if that were to change.

My family is and has always been quite hostile to my sensitivities. They get very angry with me (???). Which is why I am very greatful and appreciative of you parents giving love and understanding to your children, I'd always longed for from my own family.

Subject: Has 4S influenced your career choice?To: Soundsensitivity Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 2:10 PM

Some people here have mentioned that 4S contributes to their introversion. That's the case with me, too. I dislike being around a lot of people for too-long periods of time. And I absolutely detest sitting in a cube farm--a requirement for my current job. The SOUNDS play a significant part in that. I'm a technical writer, which is a relatively solitary way to make a living. No problem there (though I DO have a problem churning files that nobody really reads anyway, and which all end up in the recycling bin). I'm a nice guy, but am not good at or interested in workplace politics. Just not good at fakin' it, and you have to be invested in your work to be good at that stuff in the first place. I am *constantly* plotting my escape from cubicle hell. It's especially hellish when you have to share your personal space with some inconsiderate F***wad who's always gabbing on the phone, slurping coffee, or chewing gum. That's not me right now, but it

has been and very well may be again. I just cannot, WILL NOT tolerate it. The last time I had to share a cube with a cud-muncher, I started telecommuting full-time--only possible because my boss didn't know I was doing it.The thing is, I know the difference. I *have* had work where I was largely in control of my own day and personal interactions. It was FANTASTIC! I was a much happier person. Unfortunately, my wife wasn't OK with it (dare I admit? it wasn't entirely legal), so ultimately I had to return to file-churning. But I despair at the prospect of doing this, and hearing *all that,* for the rest of my working life--at least 25 more years. I just can't tolerate that prospect. If that's how it's going to be, take me out behind the shed and put me out of my misery now. After much thought, I've decided that what I really want to do is open a garden supplies store. I am very knowlegable about gardening, which happens to be the most

popular hobby in America. I have an entrepeneurial bent. I am a natural at marketing. Misanthropy aside, I'm actually a very friendly guy and would provide excellent service. I have a high tolerance for risk, not attached to the illusory safety of a regular paycheck. I am no stranger to long hours or hard work. Sure, gum-chewers would come into the store, but they wouldn't be around me for eight hours of the day. Down side? Starting such a venture would require a large capital outlay. At 43, I have less time to recover from mistakes than a younger person would--and more to lose. Still, I am thinking hard about how to make it happen. First step is to write a business plan. What about other folks here? How has 4S influenced your interactions with people? The way you make your living? The way you move through life? Curious, Jay

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I meant to say "grateful" not "greatful".

Sheesh. Long day.

From: actionfigure7 <frescaphile@ gmail.com>Subject: Has 4S influenced your career choice?To: Soundsensitivity@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 2:10 PM

Some people here have mentioned that 4S contributes to their introversion. That's the case with me, too. I dislike being around a lot of people for too-long periods of time. And I absolutely detest sitting in a cube farm--a requirement for my current job. The SOUNDS play a significant part in that. I'm a technical writer, which is a relatively solitary way to make a living. No problem there (though I DO have a problem churning files that nobody really reads anyway, and which all end up in the recycling bin). I'm a nice guy, but am not good at or interested in workplace politics. Just not good at fakin' it, and you have to be invested in your work to be good at that stuff in the first place. I am *constantly* plotting my escape from cubicle hell. It's especially hellish when you have to share your personal space with some inconsiderate F***wad who's always gabbing on the phone, slurping coffee, or chewing gum. That's not me right now, but it

has been and very well may be again. I just cannot, WILL NOT tolerate it. The last time I had to share a cube with a cud-muncher, I started telecommuting full-time--only possible because my boss didn't know I was doing it.The thing is, I know the difference. I *have* had work where I was largely in control of my own day and personal interactions. It was FANTASTIC! I was a much happier person. Unfortunately, my wife wasn't OK with it (dare I admit? it wasn't entirely legal), so ultimately I had to return to file-churning. But I despair at the prospect of doing this, and hearing *all that,* for the rest of my working life--at least 25 more years. I just can't tolerate that prospect. If that's how it's going to be, take me out behind the shed and put me out of my misery now. After much thought, I've decided that what I really want to do is open a garden supplies store. I am very knowlegable about gardening, which happens to be the most

popular hobby in America. I have an entrepeneurial bent. I am a natural at marketing. Misanthropy aside, I'm actually a very friendly guy and would provide excellent service. I have a high tolerance for risk, not attached to the illusory safety of a regular paycheck. I am no stranger to long hours or hard work. Sure, gum-chewers would come into the store, but they wouldn't be around me for eight hours of the day. Down side? Starting such a venture would require a large capital outlay. At 43, I have less time to recover from mistakes than a younger person would--and more to lose. Still, I am thinking hard about how to make it happen. First step is to write a business plan. What about other folks here? How has 4S influenced your interactions with people? The way you make your living? The way you move through life? Curious,

Jay

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Hi Jay. Funny you should mention that you want to open a garden supply store.

My husband and I both work in greenhouses for a top perennial producer in the

US. He is a grower, and I am over production/shipping. I've been in this

business for almost 18 years now (since age 19). I LOVE IT! It's a great job

for me because I usually am working alone (or around just a few people) and

food/drink is not allowed in the greenhouses. Plus there are lots of fans

around that provide background noise to cover up those gum chewers. I go home

for lunch to avoid that horrid lunchroom. I love being around the live plants

(especially in winter), and in the sunshine or artificial light all day.

Working with plants and dirt is therapeutic to me. If I'm not at work, I'm

still playing in my own garden.

So... if opening a garden supply store is what you truly want, and you can find

a way to manage it.... I say go for it! Best of luck to you!!

>

> Some people here have mentioned that 4S contributes to their introversion.

That's the case with me, too. I dislike being around a lot of people for

too-long periods of time. And I absolutely detest sitting in a cube farm--a

requirement for my current job. The SOUNDS play a significant part in that.

>

> I'm a technical writer, which is a relatively solitary way to make a living.

No problem there (though I DO have a problem churning files that nobody really

reads anyway, and which all end up in the recycling bin). I'm a nice guy, but am

not good at or interested in workplace politics. Just not good at fakin' it, and

you have to be invested in your work to be good at that stuff in the first

place. I am *constantly* plotting my escape from cubicle hell. It's especially

hellish when you have to share your personal space with some inconsiderate

F***wad who's always gabbing on the phone, slurping coffee, or chewing gum.

That's not me right now, but it has been and very well may be again. I just

cannot, WILL NOT tolerate it. The last time I had to share a cube with a

cud-muncher, I started telecommuting full-time--only possible because my boss

didn't know I was doing it.

>

> The thing is, I know the difference. I *have* had work where I was largely in

control of my own day and personal interactions. It was FANTASTIC! I was a much

happier person. Unfortunately, my wife wasn't OK with it (dare I admit? it

wasn't entirely legal), so ultimately I had to return to file-churning. But I

despair at the prospect of doing this, and hearing *all that,* for the rest of

my working life--at least 25 more years. I just can't tolerate that prospect. If

that's how it's going to be, take me out behind the shed and put me out of my

misery now.

>

> After much thought, I've decided that what I really want to do is open a

garden supplies store. I am very knowlegable about gardening, which happens to

be the most popular hobby in America. I have an entrepeneurial bent. I am a

natural at marketing. Misanthropy aside, I'm actually a very friendly guy and

would provide excellent service. I have a high tolerance for risk, not attached

to the illusory safety of a regular paycheck. I am no stranger to long hours or

hard work. Sure, gum-chewers would come into the store, but they wouldn't be

around me for eight hours of the day. Down side? Starting such a venture would

require a large capital outlay. At 43, I have less time to recover from mistakes

than a younger person would--and more to lose. Still, I am thinking hard about

how to make it happen. First step is to write a business plan.

>

> What about other folks here? How has 4S influenced your interactions with

people? The way you make your living? The way you move through life?

>

> Curious,

>

> Jay

>

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I have been married nearly 27 years now,and have had 4S for over 40 years. 4S

has affected our marriage in some ways. My wife felt that she must be some kind

of horrible eater when I first started reacting to her eating. Of course, 4S

hides during the courtship period - some hormone probably suppresses it - but it

surfaces once the relationship settles down to normal life. Gee, thanks, nervous

system.

In the early years of marriage I was studying externally, so I spent many hours

alone in my study. I still do that, long after I finished tertiary studies. That

keeps me away from supper time and its triggers. While we had young children,

the background noise at dinner time was sufficient to mask out the trigger

sounds for me. These days, I (and my 4S daughter) sit on the sofa in front of

the TV, sufficiently far away from the dinner table to avoid trigger sounds, and

near enough to the TV to get that extra background noise.

My wife avoids eating or drinking when I am around, although she understandably

finds that a little tedious. She and my daughters also close the bathroom door

when brushing their teeth. It isn't possible to prevent all triggers, but we

minimise them or I walk away from them where possible. If my wife is breathing

loudly or snoring while sleeping, I shake the bed - or touch her leg with my

foot (no, I don't kick her!) - until she shifts and stops making the sound. If

she has a bad cold and cannot stop snuffling, I go and sleep on the lounge -

which I do if _I_ have a bad cold too. It's OK - it can be quite peaceful there

and not too uncomfortable.

Not being the most sociable of people, I don't entertain much and I don't visit

other people that often. My wife visits friends without me quite often. She

works from home and often needs to visit friends about work matters (bookwork

for small businesses). So she can get her social needs met, while I avoid the

triggers arising from social interaction, which seems invariably to involve hot

drinks and food (a.k.a. slurping and smacking, if you have 4S).

So we work around what we can, put up with (cringe and forget) or flee what we

can't. And get by OK. I am still glad I married her, and hope she doesn't feel

short-changed by ending up with someone with 4S.

>

> Wow, I'm totally impressed! I have always wondered how those of you on

> here manage, but obviously it takes somebody who " gets it. "

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When I was 20 I dumped a guy cuz he ate too loud. Everything he did

after I witnessed that horror just irritated me. We only went out two weeks and

it took him two years to get over it and I feel bad now.

What is really weird is that was in DC, I heard he moved to Seattle, I'm in

Florida and was at an xmas party a few months ago and someone from Seattle was

there.

I was joking saying I should probably never go there and was asked why and turns

out this guy at the party had my dumped dude on his contacts list in his Iphone!

What are the chances?

Life is weird, so is this 4s.

I can't sleep with other people in my bed (unless I'm bombed and passed out),

yet I make no sound when I sleep. I don't snore, or breathe loud. I had night

terrors from my teens to early 20s where I used to wake up screaming but not

anymore.

I have a hyper sense of smell as well to go with the hearing. If someone stinks,

I hate them. I carry mints and gum (I know but it's safe at concerts and dance

clubs) to hand out and I have to a LOT.

I walked down the stairs from the top of the World Trade Center once because I

couldn't bear to get back in the elevators with the stinky tourists. There is

no Nosepod, maybe I should invent one.

pk

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> > Wow, I'm totally impressed! I have always wondered how those of you on

> > here manage, but obviously it takes somebody who " gets it. "

>

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Very true that the nursery industry is suffering in this economy. That's where

we are very lucky with who we work for. Our business is also booming since we

deal a lot with vegetables and herbs. People nowadays are planting more veggie

gardens. I've done this job since I was 19 (18 years) and I can't imagine ever

doing anything different. I would never survive inside an office not only

because of my 4S, but because I've been in the greenhouses in the warm sun for

too many years to be cooped up inside. LOL!

>

> I am temporarily working in landscaping, temporarily cause I am too old and

small to be planting trees and moving yards of earth much longer. I know that

the nurserys are having a hard time right now with the recession. But there is

this one little retail garden supply place we go to, it's like a real old time

dry goods store where they sell all kinds of hard to get stuff for the home

gardeners and business is booming with all the vegetable plots people are

putting in there back yards. (We also tried seeds from Lowes and A LOT of them

didn't germinate). Also clients are even wanting us to incorporate kitchen

gardens into their formal garden designs now.

>  

>

>

> ________________________________

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> To: Soundsensitivity

> Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 12:49:02 AM

> Subject: Re: Has 4S influenced your career choice?

>

>  

> Hi Jay. Funny you should mention that you want to open a garden supply store.

My husband and I both work in greenhouses for a top perennial producer in the

US. He is a grower, and I am over production/shipping . I've been in this

business for almost 18 years now (since age 19). I LOVE IT! It's a great job for

me because I usually am working alone (or around just a few people) and

food/drink is not allowed in the greenhouses. Plus there are lots of fans around

that provide background noise to cover up those gum chewers. I go home for lunch

to avoid that horrid lunchroom. I love being around the live plants (especially

in winter), and in the sunshine or artificial light all day. Working with plants

and dirt is therapeutic to me. If I'm not at work, I'm still playing in my own

garden.

>

> So... if opening a garden supply store is what you truly want, and you can

find a way to manage it.... I say go for it! Best of luck to you!!

>

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