Re: Arrowroot Powder: Adding Fragrance

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I have heard that what you should use to incorperate fo's into dry

ingredients is Natrasorb.

Arrowroot Powder: Adding Fragrance

> I couldn't find this in the archives, but quite awhile back I was

> going to add fragrance, which is liquid, to arrowroot to make a

> scented powder. I thought CabOSil was suggested as to use with the

> FO to dry it before adding to the powder, however, I have a local

> chemical supply house and when I asked him about it he bulked and

> said it was a paint thickener.

>

> Would someone be so kind as to clear up what I should use?

>

> Also, once the FO is a dry scent and since this is a sprinkle out of

> a bottle product, I would not need a preservative I assume. Would I

> need one for an open container that is dusted on with a powder puff?

>

> Thanks in advance.

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> I thought CabOSil was suggested as to use with the

> FO to dry it before adding to the powder, however, I have a local

> chemical supply house and when I asked him about it he bulked and

> said it was a paint thickener.

>

> Would someone be so kind as to clear up what I should use?

If you want to use Cab-O-Sil, you should be looking for Cab-O-Sil M-

5. If you look in the Ingredients folder in the CosmeticInfo files

area:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/files/Ingredients/

you'll find information on Cab-O-Sil.

Cab-O-Sil Functions.pdf

Cab-O-Sil Introduction and Properties.pdf

As an alternative to Cab-O-Sil, many homecrafters have been using a

product called Natrasorb Bath. The INCI name for Natrasorb Bath is

Tapioca Starch but it is not the smae as the Tapioca Starch that you

may have in your home.

NATRASORB BATH starch is able to absorb and carry large quantities of

oils and anhydrous liquids, such as bath oils. The starch is

processed in a manner that creates unique " pockets " that can carry

the oils essentially in a solid, powder form. NATRASORB BATH is

hydrophilic so that once the starch comes in contact with water, it

immediately dissolves, releasing loaded oils, fragrances and/or

emulsifiers, dispersing them into the warm water. The starch itself

provides a soft feel to the bath water, but does not settle or leave

a film.

http://www.personalcarepolymers.com/Site/ProdView.asp?ID=0281828

Maurice

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Its not Cabosil. It is Natrasorb and it's WONDERFUL!!! You can get

it at http://forsoapmakers.com/ingredient-info.html and you're going

to love it! I use it to turn my fragrance oils into powder to

incorporate into Milk Baths, salts, and powders! Its awesome stuff!

> I couldn't find this in the archives, but quite awhile back I was

> going to add fragrance, which is liquid, to arrowroot to make a

> scented powder. I thought CabOSil was suggested as to use with the

> FO to dry it before adding to the powder, however, I have a local

> chemical supply house and when I asked him about it he bulked and

> said it was a paint thickener.

>

> Would someone be so kind as to clear up what I should use?

>

> Also, once the FO is a dry scent and since this is a sprinkle out

of

> a bottle product, I would not need a preservative I assume. Would

I

> need one for an open container that is dusted on with a powder puff?

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nooooo!! Do NOT use the Silica Gel to do this!

First off, it will turn your oils into a gel. Silica Gel is not

recommended to put on your skin (as is). It is to be incorporated

into a product such as a scrub to stop the leakage turning your scrub

into a Gel. Also, too much Silica can be drying to your skin. The

percentage rate I recommend is no more than 9.5% into your product.

More and you will not like it. It actually can dry your skin.

Natrasorb is skin safe (as in you can leave on skin) in a powder.

This is your answer. Silica Gel is another puppy altogether and will

not do what you suggested (want) it to do. I would not recommend it

at all for that type (powders) of application!!

> ,

> Do you know if the same thing can be done with Silica Gel?

Generally, I am quuite successful just adding the FO to the

arrowroot, but if something else is better, I am ready to try it.

> sheila

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I'm not sure if you are talking about fumed silica or not...(called

Cab-o-sil from Cabot) but if you are its definately skin safe. In a liquid

oil it will gel and in a powder it promotes free flow.In a liquid you would

use less than 3%. ( I have used about 2% with good success) and in a powder

you'd only use .25% to achieve the free flow.

Here is a pdf file that gives the particulars of its use in cosmetics.

http://w1.cabot-corp.com/controller.jsp?N=23+1001+4294966881+4294966880 & entry=pr\

oduct

click on product literature to get to the pdf file.

Sutton

> Nooooo!! Do NOT use the Silica Gel to do this!

>

> First off, it will turn your oils into a gel. Silica Gel is not

> recommended to put on your skin (as is). It is to be incorporated

> into a product such as a scrub to stop the leakage turning your scrub

> into a Gel. Also, too much Silica can be drying to your skin. The

> percentage rate I recommend is no more than 9.5% into your product.

> More and you will not like it. It actually can dry your skin.

>

> Natrasorb is skin safe (as in you can leave on skin) in a powder.

> This is your answer. Silica Gel is another puppy altogether and will

> not do what you suggested (want) it to do. I would not recommend it

> at all for that type (powders) of application!!

>

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> > Do you know if the same thing can be done with Silica Gel?

> Generally, I am quuite successful just adding the FO to the

> arrowroot, but if something else is better, I am ready to try it.

> > sheila

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[Guest guest]

So you are saying that silica gel cannot be used for body and

or dusting powders? and if so why not

any help and or information would be greatly appreciated

Vickie

[Guest guest]

" " <wrote:

> I couldn't find this in the archives, but quite awhile back I was

> going to add fragrance, which is liquid, to arrowroot to make a

> scented powder. I thought CabOSil was suggested as to use with the

> FO to dry it before adding to the powder, > >>>

......

I have used arrow root powder as a fixative for FO, EO, as well as

kaolin clay...both work equally well without any other more expensive

ingredient. They also add as a thickener to lotions and creams too.

And DRY ingredients do not need a preservative.

hth

Sherry

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[Guest guest]

" " <wrote:

> I couldn't find this in the archives, but quite awhile back I was

> going to add fragrance, which is liquid, to arrowroot to make a

> scented powder. I thought CabOSil was suggested as to use with the

> FO to dry it before adding to the powder, > >>>

......

I have used arrow root powder as a fixative for FO, EO, as well as

kaolin clay...both work equally well without any other more expensive

ingredient. They also add as a thickener to lotions and creams too.

And DRY ingredients do not need a preservative.

hth

Sherry

Sherry's Creations

sherryabarker@...

http://www.thompsonherbals.com/book.html

[Guest guest]

Hi Sherry. That's interesting about the fixative. Re dry ingredients, I know

that they don't need a fixative but I'm seeking to scent the arrowroot and FO's

and EO's are not dry, thus I wanted to scent it with something and then add that

to the arrowroot so that it all stays nice and dry. Are you suggesting I just

spritz on the fragrance on some arrowroot, let it dry and then package it?

Re: Arrowroot Powder: Adding Fragrance

" " <wrote:

> I couldn't find this in the archives, but quite awhile back I was

> going to add fragrance, which is liquid, to arrowroot to make a

> scented powder. I thought CabOSil was suggested as to use with the

> FO to dry it before adding to the powder, > >>>

......

I have used arrow root powder as a fixative for FO, EO, as well as

kaolin clay...both work equally well without any other more expensive

ingredient. They also add as a thickener to lotions and creams too.

And DRY ingredients do not need a preservative.

hth

Sherry

Sherry's Creations

sherryabarker@...

http://www.thompsonherbals.com/book.html