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Hi Dawn,

Welcome to the group. Right now you seem to be taking the appropriate

medications. At first your GI doctor will work with your internist in

treating this but eventually they will probably send you to a liver

specialist. My husband Phil has had UC for 30 years and was diagnosed with

PSC 12/98. He had 4 consecutive bouts with cholangitis where he ran a fever

(over 101) and turned jandiced. (The best place to check for Jaundice is in

the whites of the eyes). He can or cannot have some pain associated with

it. Most of his pain came from a gallbladder full of stones. (That was

removed) but he did have one more attack since.

He now gets on and off pain between his shoulder blades that moves up his

neck to his head. More people complain of URQ(upper right quadrant) pain

though. Usually the day before the attach of cholangitis (infection of the

bile duct) he just feels real UCKY as he would say and I can tell by the

expression on his face. These reoccuring infections can be very serious and

sometimes deadly so that is why he was referred to the liver specialist and

has gone through the testing in order to be put on a TX (transplant list).

You have to be on the list for quite some time before receiving a

transplant.

Right now the worst thing for him is that he gets fatigued very easily. He

has a hard time getting up in the morning and has to rest by afternoon. He

started out on State disability which has gone into Social Security

Disability (If he had a job that he had been on for a number of years they

would probably work around him but he lost his job a month before he was

DX(diagnosed) so finding a job at 56, when you can't work a full day and

never know when you're going to be tired or at the doctors or even in the

hospital has made it impossible to look for work. He is trying to start a

home-based business that he can work at when he feels like it. Others in

the group have been able to maintain their jobs even while being very sick.

When he gets a cholangitis attack we have found that the best thing to do is

get to ER and have the GI contacted. They admit him and give he about 3

days of IV antibiotics and that seems to do the trick. He has been

infection free since March 23rd. Also the doctors feel that he has had this

disease for at least 10 years by the fact that he bile ducts are so

constricted. His liver seems to be okay so far.

Sorry to be so lengthy. Hope this helps. I find that Phil seems to have

more of your husbands attitude. Like if you don't think about it, it will

go away. You'll get plenty of love, support and understanding from this

group.

Peg, wife of Phil (56), UC 30 yrs, Dx PSC 12/98, working toward listing,

Santa Clarita, CA

dscala1193@... wrote:

> Hello -

>

> I am a new member to this group and would like to give you some info

> about myself.

>

> I am 29 yrs old and live in NYC. I was diagnosed with PSC almost a

> year ago, shortly after the birth of my 1st child. I really didn't

> take this too seriously until recently when I started doing research on

> the disease. I think the doc who diagnosed me " softened " the blow a

> little too much when he told me about it.

>

> I also have ulcerative colitis (for about 10 yrs). I am taking Asacol

> for the UC and Actigall for the PSC. I get my liver function (blood

> test) every three months, and so far they have been normal.

>

> I joined this group to get more information about the disease and

> treatments. I would like to know what are the symptoms others are

> experiencing and what treatments you are using. Also, I would like to

> know if anyone knows of specialists in my area (I currently am seeing

> just my gastroenterologist).

>

> I also joined for the support. It is hard to talk about this disease

> with my family because they don't understand what I am going through.

> Also, I think my husband downplays the disease becasue he doesn't want

> to deal with it.

>

> Thanks for listening and I appreciate any info you can give me.

> Dawn.

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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Hi Dawn - We are from Staten Island, and my husband was diagnosed with PSC

last year. He sees Dr. Hillel Tobias, (Concorde Medical Group on East 30th

Street and Third) who is a hepatologist affiliated with NYU. We have been

very satisfied with his services so far. He has been up front with any

information we request. As far are softening the blow, we had the exact same

experience with the gastroenterologist we were seeing here on the island, it

was as if he didn't want to actually come out with the exact diagnosis, or

the details associated with it, and like yourself I did my own research to

find out the facts. That was when we decided to go into Manhattan to a liver

specialist, and we were referred to Dr. Tobias by a friend of my husband's at

work. He has been kind and patient with us, and I feel comfortable that for

now at least my husband is getting the best care we could find. A friend of

mine whose husband was transplanted sees a hepatologist at Mt. Sinai, I think

his name is Bodenheimer, but I may be wrong. Our insurance did not cover the

Mt. Sinai docs.

In any event, this group will help you alot as far as practical information

and support from people who are going through the same experiences. Please

feel free to e-mail me personally @ rnurse987@... for any additional info

on Dr. Tobias, if you wish. Welcome to the group. Liz

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Dawn

Welcome to our group...

My son Tyler who will be 17 next week has PSC,AIH,Crohns and Rhuematoid

Arthritis...This is a good place for info and support...You will learn much

more here than any docs office...although Ty's docs at CHOP are great . It

is really benificial to talk to people who are like you...I even get to talk

to other moms going thru this with their kids....We need alot of support....

Luanne Ty's mom

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Dawn

Welcome to our group...

My son Tyler who will be 17 next week has PSC,AIH,Crohns and Rhuematoid

Arthritis...This is a good place for info and support...You will learn much

more here than any docs office...although Ty's docs at CHOP are great . It

is really benificial to talk to people who are like you...I even get to talk

to other moms going thru this with their kids....We need alot of support....

Luanne Ty's mom

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Dawn,

Welcome to the group. Although, I'm sorry to hear that you have this

disease, I'm glad that you found us, and hope that you will be very happy

here. I am also seeing a gastroenterologist for this disease, and it seems

to be going really well.

Love,

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Dawn,

Welcome to the group. Although, I'm sorry to hear that you have this

disease, I'm glad that you found us, and hope that you will be very happy

here. I am also seeing a gastroenterologist for this disease, and it seems

to be going really well.

Love,

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Dawn,

Welcome to the group. Although, I'm sorry to hear that you have this

disease, I'm glad that you found us, and hope that you will be very happy

here. I am also seeing a gastroenterologist for this disease, and it seems

to be going really well.

Love,

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Hi Dawn,

You have come to the right place. I just joined this group a few weeks ago

and they have been wonderful. I am 34, was diagnosed with PSC in 1997. I

will be starting the workup to be placed on the tx list. I get alot of

nausea, upper right quadrant pain, fatigue and back pain usually near my

shoulder blades. My liver at this time is working well but my biliary ducts

are a real mess. I also take Actigall. My doctor(a liver specialist) told

me 2 years ago that this disease could take years to progress. My disease

has moved rather quickly though. It is an unpredictable disease. The best

thing for you to do is to be educated and to know what to look for so you

are starting out on the right foot. Good Luck.

PSC97

>

>Reply-To: egroups

>To: egroups

>Subject: Re: New Member

>Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 20:21:25 -0700

>

>Hi Dawn,

>Welcome to the group. Right now you seem to be taking the appropriate

>medications. At first your GI doctor will work with your internist in

>treating this but eventually they will probably send you to a liver

>specialist. My husband Phil has had UC for 30 years and was diagnosed with

>PSC 12/98. He had 4 consecutive bouts with cholangitis where he ran a

>fever

>(over 101) and turned jandiced. (The best place to check for Jaundice is in

>the whites of the eyes). He can or cannot have some pain associated with

>it. Most of his pain came from a gallbladder full of stones. (That was

>removed) but he did have one more attack since.

>

>He now gets on and off pain between his shoulder blades that moves up his

>neck to his head. More people complain of URQ(upper right quadrant) pain

>though. Usually the day before the attach of cholangitis (infection of the

>bile duct) he just feels real UCKY as he would say and I can tell by the

>expression on his face. These reoccuring infections can be very serious

>and

>sometimes deadly so that is why he was referred to the liver specialist and

>has gone through the testing in order to be put on a TX (transplant list).

>You have to be on the list for quite some time before receiving a

>transplant.

>

>Right now the worst thing for him is that he gets fatigued very easily. He

>has a hard time getting up in the morning and has to rest by afternoon. He

>started out on State disability which has gone into Social Security

>Disability (If he had a job that he had been on for a number of years they

>would probably work around him but he lost his job a month before he was

>DX(diagnosed) so finding a job at 56, when you can't work a full day and

>never know when you're going to be tired or at the doctors or even in the

>hospital has made it impossible to look for work. He is trying to start a

>home-based business that he can work at when he feels like it. Others in

>the group have been able to maintain their jobs even while being very sick.

>

>When he gets a cholangitis attack we have found that the best thing to do

>is

>get to ER and have the GI contacted. They admit him and give he about 3

>days of IV antibiotics and that seems to do the trick. He has been

>infection free since March 23rd. Also the doctors feel that he has had

>this

>disease for at least 10 years by the fact that he bile ducts are so

>constricted. His liver seems to be okay so far.

>

>Sorry to be so lengthy. Hope this helps. I find that Phil seems to have

>more of your husbands attitude. Like if you don't think about it, it will

>go away. You'll get plenty of love, support and understanding from this

>group.

>

>Peg, wife of Phil (56), UC 30 yrs, Dx PSC 12/98, working toward listing,

>Santa Clarita, CA

>

>dscala1193@... wrote:

>

> > Hello -

> >

> > I am a new member to this group and would like to give you some info

> > about myself.

> >

> > I am 29 yrs old and live in NYC. I was diagnosed with PSC almost a

> > year ago, shortly after the birth of my 1st child. I really didn't

> > take this too seriously until recently when I started doing research on

> > the disease. I think the doc who diagnosed me " softened " the blow a

> > little too much when he told me about it.

> >

> > I also have ulcerative colitis (for about 10 yrs). I am taking Asacol

> > for the UC and Actigall for the PSC. I get my liver function (blood

> > test) every three months, and so far they have been normal.

> >

> > I joined this group to get more information about the disease and

> > treatments. I would like to know what are the symptoms others are

> > experiencing and what treatments you are using. Also, I would like to

> > know if anyone knows of specialists in my area (I currently am seeing

> > just my gastroenterologist).

> >

> > I also joined for the support. It is hard to talk about this disease

> > with my family because they don't understand what I am going through.

> > Also, I think my husband downplays the disease becasue he doesn't want

> > to deal with it.

> >

> > Thanks for listening and I appreciate any info you can give me.

> > Dawn.

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > eGroups.com home: /group/

> > - Simplifying group communications

>

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>eGroups.com home: /group/

> - Simplifying group communications

>

>

>

>

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Hi Dawn,

You have come to the right place. I just joined this group a few weeks ago

and they have been wonderful. I am 34, was diagnosed with PSC in 1997. I

will be starting the workup to be placed on the tx list. I get alot of

nausea, upper right quadrant pain, fatigue and back pain usually near my

shoulder blades. My liver at this time is working well but my biliary ducts

are a real mess. I also take Actigall. My doctor(a liver specialist) told

me 2 years ago that this disease could take years to progress. My disease

has moved rather quickly though. It is an unpredictable disease. The best

thing for you to do is to be educated and to know what to look for so you

are starting out on the right foot. Good Luck.

PSC97

>

>Reply-To: egroups

>To: egroups

>Subject: Re: New Member

>Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 20:21:25 -0700

>

>Hi Dawn,

>Welcome to the group. Right now you seem to be taking the appropriate

>medications. At first your GI doctor will work with your internist in

>treating this but eventually they will probably send you to a liver

>specialist. My husband Phil has had UC for 30 years and was diagnosed with

>PSC 12/98. He had 4 consecutive bouts with cholangitis where he ran a

>fever

>(over 101) and turned jandiced. (The best place to check for Jaundice is in

>the whites of the eyes). He can or cannot have some pain associated with

>it. Most of his pain came from a gallbladder full of stones. (That was

>removed) but he did have one more attack since.

>

>He now gets on and off pain between his shoulder blades that moves up his

>neck to his head. More people complain of URQ(upper right quadrant) pain

>though. Usually the day before the attach of cholangitis (infection of the

>bile duct) he just feels real UCKY as he would say and I can tell by the

>expression on his face. These reoccuring infections can be very serious

>and

>sometimes deadly so that is why he was referred to the liver specialist and

>has gone through the testing in order to be put on a TX (transplant list).

>You have to be on the list for quite some time before receiving a

>transplant.

>

>Right now the worst thing for him is that he gets fatigued very easily. He

>has a hard time getting up in the morning and has to rest by afternoon. He

>started out on State disability which has gone into Social Security

>Disability (If he had a job that he had been on for a number of years they

>would probably work around him but he lost his job a month before he was

>DX(diagnosed) so finding a job at 56, when you can't work a full day and

>never know when you're going to be tired or at the doctors or even in the

>hospital has made it impossible to look for work. He is trying to start a

>home-based business that he can work at when he feels like it. Others in

>the group have been able to maintain their jobs even while being very sick.

>

>When he gets a cholangitis attack we have found that the best thing to do

>is

>get to ER and have the GI contacted. They admit him and give he about 3

>days of IV antibiotics and that seems to do the trick. He has been

>infection free since March 23rd. Also the doctors feel that he has had

>this

>disease for at least 10 years by the fact that he bile ducts are so

>constricted. His liver seems to be okay so far.

>

>Sorry to be so lengthy. Hope this helps. I find that Phil seems to have

>more of your husbands attitude. Like if you don't think about it, it will

>go away. You'll get plenty of love, support and understanding from this

>group.

>

>Peg, wife of Phil (56), UC 30 yrs, Dx PSC 12/98, working toward listing,

>Santa Clarita, CA

>

>dscala1193@... wrote:

>

> > Hello -

> >

> > I am a new member to this group and would like to give you some info

> > about myself.

> >

> > I am 29 yrs old and live in NYC. I was diagnosed with PSC almost a

> > year ago, shortly after the birth of my 1st child. I really didn't

> > take this too seriously until recently when I started doing research on

> > the disease. I think the doc who diagnosed me " softened " the blow a

> > little too much when he told me about it.

> >

> > I also have ulcerative colitis (for about 10 yrs). I am taking Asacol

> > for the UC and Actigall for the PSC. I get my liver function (blood

> > test) every three months, and so far they have been normal.

> >

> > I joined this group to get more information about the disease and

> > treatments. I would like to know what are the symptoms others are

> > experiencing and what treatments you are using. Also, I would like to

> > know if anyone knows of specialists in my area (I currently am seeing

> > just my gastroenterologist).

> >

> > I also joined for the support. It is hard to talk about this disease

> > with my family because they don't understand what I am going through.

> > Also, I think my husband downplays the disease becasue he doesn't want

> > to deal with it.

> >

> > Thanks for listening and I appreciate any info you can give me.

> > Dawn.

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > eGroups.com home: /group/

> > - Simplifying group communications

>

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>eGroups.com home: /group/

> - Simplifying group communications

>

>

>

>

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Hi Dawn,

You have come to the right place. I just joined this group a few weeks ago

and they have been wonderful. I am 34, was diagnosed with PSC in 1997. I

will be starting the workup to be placed on the tx list. I get alot of

nausea, upper right quadrant pain, fatigue and back pain usually near my

shoulder blades. My liver at this time is working well but my biliary ducts

are a real mess. I also take Actigall. My doctor(a liver specialist) told

me 2 years ago that this disease could take years to progress. My disease

has moved rather quickly though. It is an unpredictable disease. The best

thing for you to do is to be educated and to know what to look for so you

are starting out on the right foot. Good Luck.

PSC97

>

>Reply-To: egroups

>To: egroups

>Subject: Re: New Member

>Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 20:21:25 -0700

>

>Hi Dawn,

>Welcome to the group. Right now you seem to be taking the appropriate

>medications. At first your GI doctor will work with your internist in

>treating this but eventually they will probably send you to a liver

>specialist. My husband Phil has had UC for 30 years and was diagnosed with

>PSC 12/98. He had 4 consecutive bouts with cholangitis where he ran a

>fever

>(over 101) and turned jandiced. (The best place to check for Jaundice is in

>the whites of the eyes). He can or cannot have some pain associated with

>it. Most of his pain came from a gallbladder full of stones. (That was

>removed) but he did have one more attack since.

>

>He now gets on and off pain between his shoulder blades that moves up his

>neck to his head. More people complain of URQ(upper right quadrant) pain

>though. Usually the day before the attach of cholangitis (infection of the

>bile duct) he just feels real UCKY as he would say and I can tell by the

>expression on his face. These reoccuring infections can be very serious

>and

>sometimes deadly so that is why he was referred to the liver specialist and

>has gone through the testing in order to be put on a TX (transplant list).

>You have to be on the list for quite some time before receiving a

>transplant.

>

>Right now the worst thing for him is that he gets fatigued very easily. He

>has a hard time getting up in the morning and has to rest by afternoon. He

>started out on State disability which has gone into Social Security

>Disability (If he had a job that he had been on for a number of years they

>would probably work around him but he lost his job a month before he was

>DX(diagnosed) so finding a job at 56, when you can't work a full day and

>never know when you're going to be tired or at the doctors or even in the

>hospital has made it impossible to look for work. He is trying to start a

>home-based business that he can work at when he feels like it. Others in

>the group have been able to maintain their jobs even while being very sick.

>

>When he gets a cholangitis attack we have found that the best thing to do

>is

>get to ER and have the GI contacted. They admit him and give he about 3

>days of IV antibiotics and that seems to do the trick. He has been

>infection free since March 23rd. Also the doctors feel that he has had

>this

>disease for at least 10 years by the fact that he bile ducts are so

>constricted. His liver seems to be okay so far.

>

>Sorry to be so lengthy. Hope this helps. I find that Phil seems to have

>more of your husbands attitude. Like if you don't think about it, it will

>go away. You'll get plenty of love, support and understanding from this

>group.

>

>Peg, wife of Phil (56), UC 30 yrs, Dx PSC 12/98, working toward listing,

>Santa Clarita, CA

>

>dscala1193@... wrote:

>

> > Hello -

> >

> > I am a new member to this group and would like to give you some info

> > about myself.

> >

> > I am 29 yrs old and live in NYC. I was diagnosed with PSC almost a

> > year ago, shortly after the birth of my 1st child. I really didn't

> > take this too seriously until recently when I started doing research on

> > the disease. I think the doc who diagnosed me " softened " the blow a

> > little too much when he told me about it.

> >

> > I also have ulcerative colitis (for about 10 yrs). I am taking Asacol

> > for the UC and Actigall for the PSC. I get my liver function (blood

> > test) every three months, and so far they have been normal.

> >

> > I joined this group to get more information about the disease and

> > treatments. I would like to know what are the symptoms others are

> > experiencing and what treatments you are using. Also, I would like to

> > know if anyone knows of specialists in my area (I currently am seeing

> > just my gastroenterologist).

> >

> > I also joined for the support. It is hard to talk about this disease

> > with my family because they don't understand what I am going through.

> > Also, I think my husband downplays the disease becasue he doesn't want

> > to deal with it.

> >

> > Thanks for listening and I appreciate any info you can give me.

> > Dawn.

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > eGroups.com home: /group/

> > - Simplifying group communications

>

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>eGroups.com home: /group/

> - Simplifying group communications

>

>

>

>

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Hi Dawn,

I'm sure you'll find this group informative and supporting. I'm

a 52 year old who had a liver transplant 18 months ago today.

The first signs of my PSC appeared when I was 33, but dx wasn't

done for another 9 years. (PSC wasn't widely recognized back

then).

Diagnosis of PSC is getting better, so you probably have no

overt symptoms and may not have any for years (a justification

used for " softening the blow " ). No studies have yet demonstrated

a treatment which will slow or reverse PSC, Actigall/Ursol

definitely helps keep LFT low, Milk thistle and SAMe have

testimonial support for relieving symptoms of fatigue. When

strictures in ducts become a problem ERCPs can be done to force

open the narrowings, allowing bile to flow.

Your Actigall treatment will probably prevent formation of

stones which can lodge in the biliary tree and cause acute

infections (cholangitis) or pancreatitis. Late in the course of

PSC fatigue and jauntice seem to overtake everyone. Constant

pain and/or itching are sometimes encountered and frequently

hard to relieve.

As Peg mentioned, cholangitis is one condition for which you

should seek treatment. Indications are flu like symptoms with

fever and chills which last briefly (12 to 36 hours) and recur

regularly. Treatment varies from IV antibiotics to constant oral

antibiotics to antibiotics when you have symptoms.

I think you will have many years to enjoy with your family

before PSC becomes an overt presence in your life. I hope that

your husband can provide the support needed in the trials that

you both will face if no progress is made in stopping PSC.

Tim ltx 4/4/98

--- dscala1193@... wrote:

> I joined this group to get more information about the disease

> and treatments. I would like to know what are the symptoms

> others are experiencing and what treatments you are using.

>

> I also joined for the support. It is hard to talk about this

> disease with my family because they don't understand what I am

> going through. Also, I think my husband downplays the disease

> becasue he doesn't want to deal with it.

>

> Thanks for listening and I appreciate any info you can give

> me.

> Dawn.

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Hi Dawn,

I'm sure you'll find this group informative and supporting. I'm

a 52 year old who had a liver transplant 18 months ago today.

The first signs of my PSC appeared when I was 33, but dx wasn't

done for another 9 years. (PSC wasn't widely recognized back

then).

Diagnosis of PSC is getting better, so you probably have no

overt symptoms and may not have any for years (a justification

used for " softening the blow " ). No studies have yet demonstrated

a treatment which will slow or reverse PSC, Actigall/Ursol

definitely helps keep LFT low, Milk thistle and SAMe have

testimonial support for relieving symptoms of fatigue. When

strictures in ducts become a problem ERCPs can be done to force

open the narrowings, allowing bile to flow.

Your Actigall treatment will probably prevent formation of

stones which can lodge in the biliary tree and cause acute

infections (cholangitis) or pancreatitis. Late in the course of

PSC fatigue and jauntice seem to overtake everyone. Constant

pain and/or itching are sometimes encountered and frequently

hard to relieve.

As Peg mentioned, cholangitis is one condition for which you

should seek treatment. Indications are flu like symptoms with

fever and chills which last briefly (12 to 36 hours) and recur

regularly. Treatment varies from IV antibiotics to constant oral

antibiotics to antibiotics when you have symptoms.

I think you will have many years to enjoy with your family

before PSC becomes an overt presence in your life. I hope that

your husband can provide the support needed in the trials that

you both will face if no progress is made in stopping PSC.

Tim ltx 4/4/98

--- dscala1193@... wrote:

> I joined this group to get more information about the disease

> and treatments. I would like to know what are the symptoms

> others are experiencing and what treatments you are using.

>

> I also joined for the support. It is hard to talk about this

> disease with my family because they don't understand what I am

> going through. Also, I think my husband downplays the disease

> becasue he doesn't want to deal with it.

>

> Thanks for listening and I appreciate any info you can give

> me.

> Dawn.

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Hi Dawn,

I'm sure you'll find this group informative and supporting. I'm

a 52 year old who had a liver transplant 18 months ago today.

The first signs of my PSC appeared when I was 33, but dx wasn't

done for another 9 years. (PSC wasn't widely recognized back

then).

Diagnosis of PSC is getting better, so you probably have no

overt symptoms and may not have any for years (a justification

used for " softening the blow " ). No studies have yet demonstrated

a treatment which will slow or reverse PSC, Actigall/Ursol

definitely helps keep LFT low, Milk thistle and SAMe have

testimonial support for relieving symptoms of fatigue. When

strictures in ducts become a problem ERCPs can be done to force

open the narrowings, allowing bile to flow.

Your Actigall treatment will probably prevent formation of

stones which can lodge in the biliary tree and cause acute

infections (cholangitis) or pancreatitis. Late in the course of

PSC fatigue and jauntice seem to overtake everyone. Constant

pain and/or itching are sometimes encountered and frequently

hard to relieve.

As Peg mentioned, cholangitis is one condition for which you

should seek treatment. Indications are flu like symptoms with

fever and chills which last briefly (12 to 36 hours) and recur

regularly. Treatment varies from IV antibiotics to constant oral

antibiotics to antibiotics when you have symptoms.

I think you will have many years to enjoy with your family

before PSC becomes an overt presence in your life. I hope that

your husband can provide the support needed in the trials that

you both will face if no progress is made in stopping PSC.

Tim ltx 4/4/98

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> I joined this group to get more information about the disease

> and treatments. I would like to know what are the symptoms

> others are experiencing and what treatments you are using.

>

> I also joined for the support. It is hard to talk about this

> disease with my family because they don't understand what I am

> going through. Also, I think my husband downplays the disease

> becasue he doesn't want to deal with it.

>

> Thanks for listening and I appreciate any info you can give

> me.

> Dawn.

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Dawn,

I am rescently diagnosed 6/99. I would love to talk with you. I also have had

normal blood levels since the ERCP to clip my bile duct and release " a ton "

of bile. What symptoms do you have, if any, I have Upper Right Quadrant pain

and nausea, also back pain in the liver area at times. I get really tired and

have bouts of diarrhea.

This group will be of great help to you. There are a lot of people that know

technical stuff and you will get a lot of support no matter what you are

going through. I am so glad that God led me to this site, it is really hard

going through this with out any one you " know " to talk with that has it, I

don't know how you have done that for a year.

Talk with you soon

Vicki

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Dawn,

I am rescently diagnosed 6/99. I would love to talk with you. I also have had

normal blood levels since the ERCP to clip my bile duct and release " a ton "

of bile. What symptoms do you have, if any, I have Upper Right Quadrant pain

and nausea, also back pain in the liver area at times. I get really tired and

have bouts of diarrhea.

This group will be of great help to you. There are a lot of people that know

technical stuff and you will get a lot of support no matter what you are

going through. I am so glad that God led me to this site, it is really hard

going through this with out any one you " know " to talk with that has it, I

don't know how you have done that for a year.

Talk with you soon

Vicki

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Dawn,

I am rescently diagnosed 6/99. I would love to talk with you. I also have had

normal blood levels since the ERCP to clip my bile duct and release " a ton "

of bile. What symptoms do you have, if any, I have Upper Right Quadrant pain

and nausea, also back pain in the liver area at times. I get really tired and

have bouts of diarrhea.

This group will be of great help to you. There are a lot of people that know

technical stuff and you will get a lot of support no matter what you are

going through. I am so glad that God led me to this site, it is really hard

going through this with out any one you " know " to talk with that has it, I

don't know how you have done that for a year.

Talk with you soon

Vicki

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Hi Dawn!

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the best PSC website on the internet -- and

I really mean this.

Everyone here is so concerned about one another and will post what is

happening with them and what their status is. I joined I guess about a year

ago and I have learned more than I ever thought I would!!! I am still

learning!!!

These guys are great so do not hold back anything you want to ask

about -- whether you think it is insignificant or not. You will not regret

this!

Again welcome to our wonderful website!!!

Hugs,

Biddy

dx 1996

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>Hello -

>

>I am a new member to this group and would like to give you some info

>about myself.

>

>I am 29 yrs old and live in NYC. I was diagnosed with PSC almost a

>year ago, shortly after the birth of my 1st child. I really didn't

>take this too seriously until recently when I started doing research on

>the disease. I think the doc who diagnosed me " softened " the blow a

>little too much when he told me about it.

>

>I also have ulcerative colitis (for about 10 yrs). I am taking Asacol

>for the UC and Actigall for the PSC. I get my liver function (blood

>test) every three months, and so far they have been normal.

>

>I joined this group to get more information about the disease and

>treatments. I would like to know what are the symptoms others are

>experiencing and what treatments you are using. Also, I would like to

>know if anyone knows of specialists in my area (I currently am seeing

>just my gastroenterologist).

>

>I also joined for the support. It is hard to talk about this disease

>with my family because they don't understand what I am going through.

>Also, I think my husband downplays the disease becasue he doesn't want

>to deal with it.

>

>Thanks for listening and I appreciate any info you can give me.

>Dawn.

>

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Hi Dawn!

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the best PSC website on the internet -- and

I really mean this.

Everyone here is so concerned about one another and will post what is

happening with them and what their status is. I joined I guess about a year

ago and I have learned more than I ever thought I would!!! I am still

learning!!!

These guys are great so do not hold back anything you want to ask

about -- whether you think it is insignificant or not. You will not regret

this!

Again welcome to our wonderful website!!!

Hugs,

Biddy

dx 1996

New Member

>Hello -

>

>I am a new member to this group and would like to give you some info

>about myself.

>

>I am 29 yrs old and live in NYC. I was diagnosed with PSC almost a

>year ago, shortly after the birth of my 1st child. I really didn't

>take this too seriously until recently when I started doing research on

>the disease. I think the doc who diagnosed me " softened " the blow a

>little too much when he told me about it.

>

>I also have ulcerative colitis (for about 10 yrs). I am taking Asacol

>for the UC and Actigall for the PSC. I get my liver function (blood

>test) every three months, and so far they have been normal.

>

>I joined this group to get more information about the disease and

>treatments. I would like to know what are the symptoms others are

>experiencing and what treatments you are using. Also, I would like to

>know if anyone knows of specialists in my area (I currently am seeing

>just my gastroenterologist).

>

>I also joined for the support. It is hard to talk about this disease

>with my family because they don't understand what I am going through.

>Also, I think my husband downplays the disease becasue he doesn't want

>to deal with it.

>

>Thanks for listening and I appreciate any info you can give me.

>Dawn.

>

>

>

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Welcome Spring. We'll be talking later. Glad to have you in the group.

Peg - wife of Phil dx PSC 12/98 appt with UCLA tx team Jan 10th.

SPRINGREED@... wrote:

> Hi! My name is Spring and my husband has PSC. I am 29 and we have 2

> children, he is 36. My husband was tenatively diagnosed in early 1997 then

> after 2 years of B.S. and some other medical problems, the diagnoses was

> confirmed with a second ERCP. They first noticed a rise in his liver enzymes

> in 1992 but was never figured out until we moved to Oklahoma. A liver biopsy

> said it was some kind of poisoning, they suggested anabolic steroids, which

> he has never used, so we didn't take that very seriously. Well anyway to

> make a long story short, just before Christmas the transplant center here

> informed us that we had to come up with $130,000 to get the process going.

> Thank goodness I have some insurance through my employer that I can add him

> on to, I hope. Anyway we had just started going to Baptist, where the center

> is, when after 2 visits our doctor decided to leave and go to Pheonix. We

> were " assigned " to one of his associates but we have not seen him yet. I

> have been reading some of the messages and can relate to the doctor thing,

> our doctors have not even called us to let us know how much change there has

> been in the 2 1/2 years since the first ERCP and the second one. Also, the

> report, which I managed to get the nurse to fax me states there is evidence

> of bleeding in the bile ducts, the first one didn' t show this. I am quite

> curious as to what causes this and what it means. Do any of you know? Also,

> have any of you experienced problems with your eyes such as blurred vision or

> being unsteady and dizzy when you get up to walk? Recently my husband has

> been having this problem.

>

> Well I just wanted to write real quick to introduce myself, I am new to the

> computer/e-mail thing, my inlaws sent us this computer for the kids. So, if

> I screw up sorry, I am just glad I have other people to talk to about all of

> this, maybe I will be able to understand more of what my husband feel like

> and such by talking to y'all. I work in a doctor's office and am relativly

> new to that, but it seems y'all know so much more about all of this. Hope

> y'all will be able to help with some of the questions I may have. Well

> that's all for now. Thanks!

> Spring

> P.S. I'm glad you made it home , sounds like maybe things will be okay

> for a little while. Take Care!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR

> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Spring,

Welcome to the group. I'm sorry to hear that your husband is so

far along that he is being recommended for transplant. I would

recommend reading the transplant group also (available online at

http://x21.deja.com/[sT_rn=if]/topics_if.xp?search=topic & group=bit.listserv.tran\

splant).

Although it covers all transplant topics, it is very helpful for

anyone preparing for a transplant because becoming familiar with

what can be expected will make the actual transplant experience

less scary and give you the confidence to demand further medical

intervention when it is needed and not immediately forthcoming.

In the near term your husband needs to keep as healthy and as

physically fit as possible. Major surgery succeeds best on

healthy people. If your husband LFT's were first observed to be

elevated 8 years ago, it would seem he has had a rapid

progression of PSC. But everyone is different. Has he had any

major incidents that caused your doctors to recommend listing

for a transplant?

Wishing you both a health filled new year,

Tim - liver transplant 4/4/98

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Spring,

Welcome to the group. I hope you can get some answers to your very important

questions concerning your husband. By the way what is his name? We have a lot

of information to share about our trials what we've gone thru. Hopefully we

can help you and your husband with some of the questions that you have.

Happy New Year, Larry UC-95 PSC-96 - Baltimore

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Spring,

Good to hear from you. I think we have at least one patient here from OK.

Some of the symptoms you mention don't sound very familiar to me (mostly

just from hearing from other patients). For example the bleeding of the

bile ducts sounds unusual. A lot of liver patients have bleeding of the

veins around the stomach, maybe that's what they said? A lot of times they

can see these veins and/or the bleeding when they use the scope for the

ERCP.

Regarding the dizziness and blurred vision, that also sounds unusual. I

would definitely discuss this with your doctor(s). What some liver

patients get is a condition called encephalopathy which may be due to a

build up of ammonia or other substances in the blood due to poor liver

function. This can lead to poor mental function and confusion (brain fog).

It is sometimes treatable.

Good luck

Roy T.

new member

> Also, the

> report, which I managed to get the nurse to fax me states there is

evidence

> of bleeding in the bile ducts, the first one didn' t show this. I am

quite

> curious as to what causes this and what it means. Do any of you know?

Also,

> have any of you experienced problems with your eyes such as blurred vision

or

> being unsteady and dizzy when you get up to walk? Recently my husband has

> been having this problem.

>

> Spring

> P.S. I'm glad you made it home , sounds like maybe things will be

okay

> for a little while. Take Care!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR

> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

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Spring,

Good to hear from you. I think we have at least one patient here from OK.

Some of the symptoms you mention don't sound very familiar to me (mostly

just from hearing from other patients). For example the bleeding of the

bile ducts sounds unusual. A lot of liver patients have bleeding of the

veins around the stomach, maybe that's what they said? A lot of times they

can see these veins and/or the bleeding when they use the scope for the

ERCP.

Regarding the dizziness and blurred vision, that also sounds unusual. I

would definitely discuss this with your doctor(s). What some liver

patients get is a condition called encephalopathy which may be due to a

build up of ammonia or other substances in the blood due to poor liver

function. This can lead to poor mental function and confusion (brain fog).

It is sometimes treatable.

Good luck

Roy T.

new member

> Also, the

> report, which I managed to get the nurse to fax me states there is

evidence

> of bleeding in the bile ducts, the first one didn' t show this. I am

quite

> curious as to what causes this and what it means. Do any of you know?

Also,

> have any of you experienced problems with your eyes such as blurred vision

or

> being unsteady and dizzy when you get up to walk? Recently my husband has

> been having this problem.

>

> Spring

> P.S. I'm glad you made it home , sounds like maybe things will be

okay

> for a little while. Take Care!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR

> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

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Spring,

Good to hear from you. I think we have at least one patient here from OK.

Some of the symptoms you mention don't sound very familiar to me (mostly

just from hearing from other patients). For example the bleeding of the

bile ducts sounds unusual. A lot of liver patients have bleeding of the

veins around the stomach, maybe that's what they said? A lot of times they

can see these veins and/or the bleeding when they use the scope for the

ERCP.

Regarding the dizziness and blurred vision, that also sounds unusual. I

would definitely discuss this with your doctor(s). What some liver

patients get is a condition called encephalopathy which may be due to a

build up of ammonia or other substances in the blood due to poor liver

function. This can lead to poor mental function and confusion (brain fog).

It is sometimes treatable.

Good luck

Roy T.

new member

> Also, the

> report, which I managed to get the nurse to fax me states there is

evidence

> of bleeding in the bile ducts, the first one didn' t show this. I am

quite

> curious as to what causes this and what it means. Do any of you know?

Also,

> have any of you experienced problems with your eyes such as blurred vision

or

> being unsteady and dizzy when you get up to walk? Recently my husband has

> been having this problem.

>

> Spring

> P.S. I'm glad you made it home , sounds like maybe things will be

okay

> for a little while. Take Care!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR

> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

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Hello Spring!!!

My name is Dawn and I have PSC and UC. I am 29 yrs old (married and one

child).

This is a great group for getting answers to your questions...even if someone

doesn't know offhand, someone sometimes does research and gets back to you.

I've also found it to be a great source of comfort and support. It helps to

know I am not alone and that others do understand what it feels like. There

are other spouses of PSCers on this group that canhelp you deal with what you

are going through.

My question after reading your e-mail is why do you have to have $130,000 to

get the ball rolling...is this normal? (maybe someone else in the group can

answer this, if not done so already...I still have 41 more e-mails to read so

I may be asking prematurely).

Welcome to the group!!!!

Love, Dawn

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