Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

[Guest guest]

One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet

evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average

hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test

tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this

does contribute to the misery a bit.

IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial

auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along

with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then

see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF

their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

I suspect they do.

Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to play

in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your

system to plenty of stimulation.

Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to

turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its

nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and

becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound,

and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory

system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new

types of ear-food for your brain!

Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of

anorexia for the ears!

So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory

experience!

A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

Marsha I understand what you are saying about earplugs 'starving' your ears, but do you think that headphones with music and/or white noise is a good thing to help us survive, but yet still giving us stimulating sounds that are more enjoyable? Obviously I can see where the 'social' aspect could be in trouble if you were wearing them too often, but for myself, it is crucial sometimes when my family starts snacking or I'm having an extra sensitive day, to put them on and go away into music land for a while. For the good of all involved!! Btw, BLESS YOU for all you do!!! Kaci Anne McCall Professional FACE PAINTING, personalized crafts, and more! Please visit:http://www.MysticalRainbowCreations.com "What a privilege to be here on the planet to contribute your unique donation to humankind. Each face in the rainbow of colors that populate our world is precious and special." ~ Dees To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM Subject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.

IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

I suspect they do.

Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your system to plenty of stimulation.

Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!

Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!

So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!

A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

Marsha I understand what you are saying about earplugs 'starving' your ears, but do you think that headphones with music and/or white noise is a good thing to help us survive, but yet still giving us stimulating sounds that are more enjoyable? Obviously I can see where the 'social' aspect could be in trouble if you were wearing them too often, but for myself, it is crucial sometimes when my family starts snacking or I'm having an extra sensitive day, to put them on and go away into music land for a while. For the good of all involved!! Btw, BLESS YOU for all you do!!! Kaci Anne McCall Professional FACE PAINTING, personalized crafts, and more! Please visit:http://www.MysticalRainbowCreations.com "What a privilege to be here on the planet to contribute your unique donation to humankind. Each face in the rainbow of colors that populate our world is precious and special." ~ Dees To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM Subject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.

IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

I suspect they do.

Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your system to plenty of stimulation.

Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!

Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!

So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!

A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

Marsha I understand what you are saying about earplugs 'starving' your ears, but do you think that headphones with music and/or white noise is a good thing to help us survive, but yet still giving us stimulating sounds that are more enjoyable? Obviously I can see where the 'social' aspect could be in trouble if you were wearing them too often, but for myself, it is crucial sometimes when my family starts snacking or I'm having an extra sensitive day, to put them on and go away into music land for a while. For the good of all involved!! Btw, BLESS YOU for all you do!!! Kaci Anne McCall Professional FACE PAINTING, personalized crafts, and more! Please visit:http://www.MysticalRainbowCreations.com "What a privilege to be here on the planet to contribute your unique donation to humankind. Each face in the rainbow of colors that populate our world is precious and special." ~ Dees To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM Subject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.

IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

I suspect they do.

Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your system to plenty of stimulation.

Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!

Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!

So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!

A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

I have great hearing. My mom's bedroom is all the way across the house. I can hear her eating something crunchy or messing with a wrapper all the way across the house. I can also smell if she eats something with a smell (corn chips, nuts, etc) or puts on lotion. She can't believe that I can hear and smell from that far away.

I cannot sleep at night without earplugs... but I don't use them during the day as much as I would like to.---------------------------------------------------------

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One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.

IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

I suspect they do.

Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your system to plenty of stimulation.

Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!

Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!

So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!

A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure I agree - although -10 is perfect hearing, I would not be surprised to see a child with it. I have tested many adults that have only 0 to 5db losses who are in their 30's and 40's - Also, hearing is only ONE part of the problem we also have Visual Sensitivities.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AMSubject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.I suspect they do.Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your

system to plenty of stimulation.Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!A delightful Feast O Noise

(A Dr. term...)Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

, do you have visual sensitivities as well? Is so, what are they?

To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity >Sent: Tue, November 22, 2011 4:19:40 PMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

I'm not sure I agree - although -10 is perfect hearing, I would not be surprised to see a child with it. I have tested many adults that have only 0 to 5db losses who are in their 30's and 40's - Also, hearing is only ONE part of the problem we also have Visual Sensitivities.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AMSubject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.I suspect they do.Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your

system to plenty of stimulation.Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!A delightful Feast O Noise

(A Dr. term...)Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

, do you have visual sensitivities as well? Is so, what are they?

To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity >Sent: Tue, November 22, 2011 4:19:40 PMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

I'm not sure I agree - although -10 is perfect hearing, I would not be surprised to see a child with it. I have tested many adults that have only 0 to 5db losses who are in their 30's and 40's - Also, hearing is only ONE part of the problem we also have Visual Sensitivities.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AMSubject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.I suspect they do.Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your

system to plenty of stimulation.Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!A delightful Feast O Noise

(A Dr. term...)Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

, do you have visual sensitivities as well? Is so, what are they?

To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity >Sent: Tue, November 22, 2011 4:19:40 PMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

I'm not sure I agree - although -10 is perfect hearing, I would not be surprised to see a child with it. I have tested many adults that have only 0 to 5db losses who are in their 30's and 40's - Also, hearing is only ONE part of the problem we also have Visual Sensitivities.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AMSubject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.I suspect they do.Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your

system to plenty of stimulation.Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!A delightful Feast O Noise

(A Dr. term...)Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

Hair twirling, when someone touches their lips constantly and twisting their fingers

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:26 PMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

, do you have visual sensitivities as well? Is so, what are they?

To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity >Sent: Tue, November 22, 2011 4:19:40 PMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

I'm not sure I agree - although -10 is perfect hearing, I would not be surprised to see a child with it. I have tested many adults that have only 0 to 5db losses who are in their 30's and 40's - Also, hearing is only ONE part of the problem we also have Visual Sensitivities.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AMSubject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.I suspect they do.Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your

system to plenty of stimulation.Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!A delightful Feast O Noise

(A Dr. term...)Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

Hair twirling, when someone touches their lips constantly and twisting their fingers

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:26 PMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

, do you have visual sensitivities as well? Is so, what are they?

To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity >Sent: Tue, November 22, 2011 4:19:40 PMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

I'm not sure I agree - although -10 is perfect hearing, I would not be surprised to see a child with it. I have tested many adults that have only 0 to 5db losses who are in their 30's and 40's - Also, hearing is only ONE part of the problem we also have Visual Sensitivities.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AMSubject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.I suspect they do.Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your

system to plenty of stimulation.Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!A delightful Feast O Noise

(A Dr. term...)Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

I LOVE headsets with music or noise or nature sounds...white noise, too, perfect

for the 4S/Miso person!

Yes indeed, they are terrific.

MJ

>

> Marsha I understand what you are saying about earplugs 'starving' your ears,

but do you think that headphones with music and/or white noise is a good thing

to help us survive, but yet still giving us stimulating sounds that are more

enjoyable?  Obviously I can see where the 'social' aspect could be in trouble

if you were wearing them too often, but for myself, it is crucial sometimes when

my family starts snacking or I'm having an extra sensitive day, to put them on

and go away into music land for a while. For the good of all involved!! Btw,

BLESS YOU for all you do!!!

>

>  

> Kaci Anne McCall

>  

> Professional FACE PAINTING, personalized crafts, and more! Please visit:

> http://www.MysticalRainbowCreations.com

>  

> " What a privilege to be here on the planet to contribute your unique donation

to humankind.

> Each face in the rainbow of colors that populate our world is precious and

special. " ~ Dees

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Soundsensitivity

> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM

> Subject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

>

>

>  

> One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet

evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

>

> The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average

hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test

tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this

does contribute to the misery a bit.

>

> IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial

auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along

with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then

see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF

their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

>

> I suspect they do.

>

> Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to

play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your

system to plenty of stimulation.

>

> Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain

to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are

its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

>

> When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this

and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for

sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

>

> Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory

system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new

types of ear-food for your brain!

>

> Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of

anorexia for the ears!

>

> So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory

experience!

>

> A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

>

> Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

>

[Guest guest]

I LOVE headsets with music or noise or nature sounds...white noise, too, perfect

for the 4S/Miso person!

Yes indeed, they are terrific.

MJ

>

> Marsha I understand what you are saying about earplugs 'starving' your ears,

but do you think that headphones with music and/or white noise is a good thing

to help us survive, but yet still giving us stimulating sounds that are more

enjoyable?  Obviously I can see where the 'social' aspect could be in trouble

if you were wearing them too often, but for myself, it is crucial sometimes when

my family starts snacking or I'm having an extra sensitive day, to put them on

and go away into music land for a while. For the good of all involved!! Btw,

BLESS YOU for all you do!!!

>

>  

> Kaci Anne McCall

>  

> Professional FACE PAINTING, personalized crafts, and more! Please visit:

> http://www.MysticalRainbowCreations.com

>  

> " What a privilege to be here on the planet to contribute your unique donation

to humankind.

> Each face in the rainbow of colors that populate our world is precious and

special. " ~ Dees

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Soundsensitivity

> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM

> Subject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

>

>

>  

> One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet

evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

>

> The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average

hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test

tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this

does contribute to the misery a bit.

>

> IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial

auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along

with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then

see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF

their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

>

> I suspect they do.

>

> Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to

play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your

system to plenty of stimulation.

>

> Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain

to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are

its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

>

> When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this

and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for

sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

>

> Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory

system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new

types of ear-food for your brain!

>

> Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of

anorexia for the ears!

>

> So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory

experience!

>

> A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

>

> Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

>

[Guest guest]

I LOVE headsets with music or noise or nature sounds...white noise, too, perfect

for the 4S/Miso person!

Yes indeed, they are terrific.

MJ

>

> Marsha I understand what you are saying about earplugs 'starving' your ears,

but do you think that headphones with music and/or white noise is a good thing

to help us survive, but yet still giving us stimulating sounds that are more

enjoyable?  Obviously I can see where the 'social' aspect could be in trouble

if you were wearing them too often, but for myself, it is crucial sometimes when

my family starts snacking or I'm having an extra sensitive day, to put them on

and go away into music land for a while. For the good of all involved!! Btw,

BLESS YOU for all you do!!!

>

>  

> Kaci Anne McCall

>  

> Professional FACE PAINTING, personalized crafts, and more! Please visit:

> http://www.MysticalRainbowCreations.com

>  

> " What a privilege to be here on the planet to contribute your unique donation

to humankind.

> Each face in the rainbow of colors that populate our world is precious and

special. " ~ Dees

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: Soundsensitivity

> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM

> Subject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

>

>

>  

> One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet

evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

>

> The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average

hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test

tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this

does contribute to the misery a bit.

>

> IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial

auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along

with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then

see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF

their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

>

> I suspect they do.

>

> Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to

play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your

system to plenty of stimulation.

>

> Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain

to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are

its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

>

> When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this

and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for

sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

>

> Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory

system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new

types of ear-food for your brain!

>

> Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of

anorexia for the ears!

>

> So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory

experience!

>

> A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

>

> Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

>

[Guest guest]

I know too well the horrible effects of using earplugs and starving your brain.

I now am triggered by it seems like almost every noise I am not focusing on.

Dryer, almost all motors, the shower, fans, the highway, traffic, too many

things to ever list. I all but break down crying if i cant " protect " myself

from them. Most of which about a year ago weren't an issue I didn't even notice

them. Yes, stay away from ear plugs as much as possible. I used them to help me

be in the mist of things through the holidays. I was so happy at the relief I

thought I found I used them most of the day at times. The honeymoon was short

lived. So wish I had known then what the effects would be. I would give anything

to go back to the way things were. But I know now and try to be thankful because

things could always be worse .

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet

> > evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

> >

> > The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than

> > average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory

> > test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do

> > think this does contribute to the misery a bit.

> >

> > IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial

> > auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire)

> > along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety,

> > etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost

> > decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

> >

> > I suspect they do.

> >

> > Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn

> > to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to

> > expose your system to plenty of stimulation.

> >

> > Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol'

> > brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds,

> > which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

> >

> > When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for

> > this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes

> > ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour

> > it!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

> >

> > Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your

> > auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast

> > realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!

> >

> > Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of

> > anorexia for the ears!

> >

> > So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory

> > experience!

> >

> > A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

> >

> > Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know too well the horrible effects of using earplugs and starving your brain.

I now am triggered by it seems like almost every noise I am not focusing on.

Dryer, almost all motors, the shower, fans, the highway, traffic, too many

things to ever list. I all but break down crying if i cant " protect " myself

from them. Most of which about a year ago weren't an issue I didn't even notice

them. Yes, stay away from ear plugs as much as possible. I used them to help me

be in the mist of things through the holidays. I was so happy at the relief I

thought I found I used them most of the day at times. The honeymoon was short

lived. So wish I had known then what the effects would be. I would give anything

to go back to the way things were. But I know now and try to be thankful because

things could always be worse .

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet

> > evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

> >

> > The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than

> > average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory

> > test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do

> > think this does contribute to the misery a bit.

> >

> > IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial

> > auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire)

> > along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety,

> > etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost

> > decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

> >

> > I suspect they do.

> >

> > Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn

> > to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to

> > expose your system to plenty of stimulation.

> >

> > Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol'

> > brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds,

> > which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

> >

> > When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for

> > this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes

> > ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour

> > it!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

> >

> > Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your

> > auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast

> > realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!

> >

> > Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of

> > anorexia for the ears!

> >

> > So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory

> > experience!

> >

> > A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

> >

> > Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know too well the horrible effects of using earplugs and starving your brain.

I now am triggered by it seems like almost every noise I am not focusing on.

Dryer, almost all motors, the shower, fans, the highway, traffic, too many

things to ever list. I all but break down crying if i cant " protect " myself

from them. Most of which about a year ago weren't an issue I didn't even notice

them. Yes, stay away from ear plugs as much as possible. I used them to help me

be in the mist of things through the holidays. I was so happy at the relief I

thought I found I used them most of the day at times. The honeymoon was short

lived. So wish I had known then what the effects would be. I would give anything

to go back to the way things were. But I know now and try to be thankful because

things could always be worse .

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet

> > evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

> >

> > The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than

> > average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory

> > test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do

> > think this does contribute to the misery a bit.

> >

> > IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial

> > auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire)

> > along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety,

> > etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost

> > decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

> >

> > I suspect they do.

> >

> > Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn

> > to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to

> > expose your system to plenty of stimulation.

> >

> > Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol'

> > brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds,

> > which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

> >

> > When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for

> > this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes

> > ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour

> > it!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

> >

> > Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your

> > auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast

> > realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!

> >

> > Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of

> > anorexia for the ears!

> >

> > So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory

> > experience!

> >

> > A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

> >

> > Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry for your pain. I was just in the shower, but I felt it so comforting-I can't imagine how horrible it must be to feel the reverse. Is there any music you can listen to? I listen to classical now, because I find it calming, it blocks out a lot of noises and there aren't those noisy, annoying commercials.To:

Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, November 23, 2011 11:08:42 AMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

I know too well the horrible effects of using earplugs and starving your brain. I now am triggered by it seems like almost every noise I am not focusing on. Dryer, almost all motors, the shower, fans, the highway, traffic, too many things to ever list. I all but break down crying if i cant "protect" myself from them. Most of which about a year ago weren't an issue I didn't even notice them. Yes, stay away from ear plugs as much as possible. I used them to help me be in the mist of things through the holidays. I was so happy at the relief I thought I found I used them most of the day at times. The honeymoon was short lived. So wish I had known then what the effects would be. I would give anything to go back to the way things were. But I know now and try to be thankful because things could always be worse .

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet

> > evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

> >

> > The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than

> > average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory

> > test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do

> > think this does contribute to the misery a bit.

> >

> > IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial

> > auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire)

> > along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety,

> > etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost

> > decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

> >

> > I suspect they do.

> >

> > Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn

> > to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to

> > expose your system to plenty of stimulation.

> >

> > Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol'

> > brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds,

> > which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

> >

> > When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for

> > this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes

> > ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour

> > it!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

> >

> > Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your

> > auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast

> > realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!

> >

> > Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of

> > anorexia for the ears!

> >

> > So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory

> > experience!

> >

> > A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

> >

> > Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry for your pain. I was just in the shower, but I felt it so comforting-I can't imagine how horrible it must be to feel the reverse. Is there any music you can listen to? I listen to classical now, because I find it calming, it blocks out a lot of noises and there aren't those noisy, annoying commercials.To:

Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, November 23, 2011 11:08:42 AMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

I know too well the horrible effects of using earplugs and starving your brain. I now am triggered by it seems like almost every noise I am not focusing on. Dryer, almost all motors, the shower, fans, the highway, traffic, too many things to ever list. I all but break down crying if i cant "protect" myself from them. Most of which about a year ago weren't an issue I didn't even notice them. Yes, stay away from ear plugs as much as possible. I used them to help me be in the mist of things through the holidays. I was so happy at the relief I thought I found I used them most of the day at times. The honeymoon was short lived. So wish I had known then what the effects would be. I would give anything to go back to the way things were. But I know now and try to be thankful because things could always be worse .

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet

> > evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

> >

> > The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than

> > average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory

> > test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do

> > think this does contribute to the misery a bit.

> >

> > IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial

> > auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire)

> > along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety,

> > etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost

> > decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

> >

> > I suspect they do.

> >

> > Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn

> > to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to

> > expose your system to plenty of stimulation.

> >

> > Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol'

> > brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds,

> > which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

> >

> > When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for

> > this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes

> > ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour

> > it!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

> >

> > Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your

> > auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast

> > realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!

> >

> > Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of

> > anorexia for the ears!

> >

> > So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory

> > experience!

> >

> > A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

> >

> > Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry for your pain. I was just in the shower, but I felt it so comforting-I can't imagine how horrible it must be to feel the reverse. Is there any music you can listen to? I listen to classical now, because I find it calming, it blocks out a lot of noises and there aren't those noisy, annoying commercials.To:

Soundsensitivity Sent: Wed, November 23, 2011 11:08:42 AMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

I know too well the horrible effects of using earplugs and starving your brain. I now am triggered by it seems like almost every noise I am not focusing on. Dryer, almost all motors, the shower, fans, the highway, traffic, too many things to ever list. I all but break down crying if i cant "protect" myself from them. Most of which about a year ago weren't an issue I didn't even notice them. Yes, stay away from ear plugs as much as possible. I used them to help me be in the mist of things through the holidays. I was so happy at the relief I thought I found I used them most of the day at times. The honeymoon was short lived. So wish I had known then what the effects would be. I would give anything to go back to the way things were. But I know now and try to be thankful because things could always be worse .

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet

> > evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

> >

> > The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than

> > average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory

> > test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do

> > think this does contribute to the misery a bit.

> >

> > IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial

> > auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire)

> > along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety,

> > etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost

> > decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

> >

> > I suspect they do.

> >

> > Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn

> > to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to

> > expose your system to plenty of stimulation.

> >

> > Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol'

> > brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds,

> > which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

> >

> > When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for

> > this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes

> > ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour

> > it!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

> >

> > Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your

> > auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast

> > realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!

> >

> > Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of

> > anorexia for the ears!

> >

> > So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory

> > experience!

> >

> > A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

> >

> > Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. -

I thought I needed to respond to this particular thread because I 1) Have a

pretty bad case of Misophonia (at least it seems bad to me and those who I have

relations with) and 2) I have hearing loss.

My particular type of hearing loss is from a condition called Otosclerosis

(sp?). One of the three bones in my ear is fused in place and does not move

like it should. This has gone on since I was a child (probably from birth, but

not confirmed... I did have excess earwax as a kid). My hearing is worse in my

left ear and my right ear approaches normal levels of hearing. When talking on

the phone, I have to hold it to my right ear. I don't have a hearing aid, and I

can generally hold a normal conversation without any problem, but my audiologist

said that whenever I wanted to do surgery for it, all I have to do is say the

word. (On a side note, he does not have a working knowledge of how to help me

with the Misophonia. I would love to know if anyone has contacts in the St.

Louis, MO area!) I do depend on this hearing impediment when dealing with my

Misophonia. Depending on the trigger and the volume of the actual sound,

sometimes I only need to cover my right ear to reduce my ability to hear it.

Currently, I am 28 and pregnant with my second child. Although I haven't

noticed an increase in my hearing loss, my ears do ring more often than normal.

I figured you would be interested to find a case of Misophonia where the person

has hearing issues.

Regards,

Amarette

> > From: M <Oregon7@>

> > To: Soundsensitivity

> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM

> > Subject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

> >

> >

> >  

> > One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet

evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

> >

> > The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than

average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory

test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think

this does contribute to the misery a bit.

> >

> > IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial

auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along

with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then

see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF

their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

> >

> > I suspect they do.

> >

> > Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to

play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your

system to plenty of stimulation.

> >

> > Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain

to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are

its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

> >

> > When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this

and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for

sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

> >

> > Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory

system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new

types of ear-food for your brain!

> >

> > Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of

anorexia for the ears!

> >

> > So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory

experience!

> >

> > A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

> >

> > Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. -

I thought I needed to respond to this particular thread because I 1) Have a

pretty bad case of Misophonia (at least it seems bad to me and those who I have

relations with) and 2) I have hearing loss.

My particular type of hearing loss is from a condition called Otosclerosis

(sp?). One of the three bones in my ear is fused in place and does not move

like it should. This has gone on since I was a child (probably from birth, but

not confirmed... I did have excess earwax as a kid). My hearing is worse in my

left ear and my right ear approaches normal levels of hearing. When talking on

the phone, I have to hold it to my right ear. I don't have a hearing aid, and I

can generally hold a normal conversation without any problem, but my audiologist

said that whenever I wanted to do surgery for it, all I have to do is say the

word. (On a side note, he does not have a working knowledge of how to help me

with the Misophonia. I would love to know if anyone has contacts in the St.

Louis, MO area!) I do depend on this hearing impediment when dealing with my

Misophonia. Depending on the trigger and the volume of the actual sound,

sometimes I only need to cover my right ear to reduce my ability to hear it.

Currently, I am 28 and pregnant with my second child. Although I haven't

noticed an increase in my hearing loss, my ears do ring more often than normal.

I figured you would be interested to find a case of Misophonia where the person

has hearing issues.

Regards,

Amarette

> > From: M <Oregon7@>

> > To: Soundsensitivity

> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM

> > Subject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

> >

> >

> >  

> > One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet

evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.

> >

> > The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than

average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory

test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think

this does contribute to the misery a bit.

> >

> > IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial

auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along

with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then

see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF

their 4S/Miso scores would improve.

> >

> > I suspect they do.

> >

> > Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to concerts, learn to

play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your

system to plenty of stimulation.

> >

> > Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain

to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are

its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.

> >

> > When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this

and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for

sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.

> >

> > Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory

system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new

types of ear-food for your brain!

> >

> > Do not ignore it. You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of

anorexia for the ears!

> >

> > So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory

experience!

> >

> > A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)

> >

> > Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon

> >

>

[Guest guest]

As a hearing professional and someone who has suffered from 4S for 45 years I can assure you Otoscerlosis ( affects the Stapes ) and ear wax have nothing to do with 4S. Otoscerlosis is usually Genetic and affects only one ear most of the time. Depending on the advice of your ENT ( I would get several opinions ) an operation will usually repair the stapes and your hearing in the affected ear will be close to the non affected ear after a successful operation.

Things to consider - If it will not affect you health or if the Otoscerlosisis is not getting worse, I would opt out of an operation – there is a chance the operation will fail and cause a worse hearing loss. A hearing aid would work very well should you desire to hear better, you can take it out when you don’t. Also, I believe the repair of the Stapes usually lasts for 5-9 years on average then another operation may be needed.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 3:20 AMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

Dr. -I thought I needed to respond to this particular thread because I 1) Have a pretty bad case of Misophonia (at least it seems bad to me and those who I have relations with) and 2) I have hearing loss.My particular type of hearing loss is from a condition called Otosclerosis (sp?). One of the three bones in my ear is fused in place and does not move like it should. This has gone on since I was a child (probably from birth, but not confirmed... I did have excess earwax as a kid). My hearing is worse in my left ear and my right ear approaches normal levels of hearing. When talking on the phone, I have to hold it to my right ear. I don't have a hearing aid, and I can generally hold a normal conversation without any problem, but my audiologist said that whenever I wanted to do surgery for it, all I have to do is say the word. (On a side note, he does not have a working knowledge of how to help me with the Misophonia. I would

love to know if anyone has contacts in the St. Louis, MO area!) I do depend on this hearing impediment when dealing with my Misophonia. Depending on the trigger and the volume of the actual sound, sometimes I only need to cover my right ear to reduce my ability to hear it. Currently, I am 28 and pregnant with my second child. Although I haven't noticed an increase in my hearing loss, my ears do ring more often than normal.I figured you would be interested to find a case of Misophonia where the person has hearing issues.Regards,Amarette> > From: M <Oregon7@>> > To: Soundsensitivity > > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM> > Subject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso> > > > > >

 > > One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.> > > > The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.> > > > IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.> > > > I suspect they do.> > > > Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to

concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your system to plenty of stimulation.> > > > Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.> > > > When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!> > > > Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.> > > > Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!> > > > Do not ignore it.

You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!> > > > So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!> > > > A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)> > > > Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon> >>

[Guest guest]

As a hearing professional and someone who has suffered from 4S for 45 years I can assure you Otoscerlosis ( affects the Stapes ) and ear wax have nothing to do with 4S. Otoscerlosis is usually Genetic and affects only one ear most of the time. Depending on the advice of your ENT ( I would get several opinions ) an operation will usually repair the stapes and your hearing in the affected ear will be close to the non affected ear after a successful operation.

Things to consider - If it will not affect you health or if the Otoscerlosisis is not getting worse, I would opt out of an operation – there is a chance the operation will fail and cause a worse hearing loss. A hearing aid would work very well should you desire to hear better, you can take it out when you don’t. Also, I believe the repair of the Stapes usually lasts for 5-9 years on average then another operation may be needed.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 3:20 AMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

Dr. -I thought I needed to respond to this particular thread because I 1) Have a pretty bad case of Misophonia (at least it seems bad to me and those who I have relations with) and 2) I have hearing loss.My particular type of hearing loss is from a condition called Otosclerosis (sp?). One of the three bones in my ear is fused in place and does not move like it should. This has gone on since I was a child (probably from birth, but not confirmed... I did have excess earwax as a kid). My hearing is worse in my left ear and my right ear approaches normal levels of hearing. When talking on the phone, I have to hold it to my right ear. I don't have a hearing aid, and I can generally hold a normal conversation without any problem, but my audiologist said that whenever I wanted to do surgery for it, all I have to do is say the word. (On a side note, he does not have a working knowledge of how to help me with the Misophonia. I would

love to know if anyone has contacts in the St. Louis, MO area!) I do depend on this hearing impediment when dealing with my Misophonia. Depending on the trigger and the volume of the actual sound, sometimes I only need to cover my right ear to reduce my ability to hear it. Currently, I am 28 and pregnant with my second child. Although I haven't noticed an increase in my hearing loss, my ears do ring more often than normal.I figured you would be interested to find a case of Misophonia where the person has hearing issues.Regards,Amarette> > From: M <Oregon7@>> > To: Soundsensitivity > > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM> > Subject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso> > > > > >

 > > One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.> > > > The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.> > > > IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.> > > > I suspect they do.> > > > Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to

concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your system to plenty of stimulation.> > > > Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.> > > > When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!> > > > Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.> > > > Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!> > > > Do not ignore it.

You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!> > > > So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!> > > > A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)> > > > Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon> >>

[Guest guest]

C,

Is it possible to have 4S and also have other sounds that can be muddled? Very acute hearing as well as muddled hearing?

To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity >Sent: Thu, November 24, 2011 8:19:58 AMSubject: Re: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

As a hearing professional and someone who has suffered from 4S for 45 years I can assure you Otoscerlosis ( affects the Stapes ) and ear wax have nothing to do with 4S. Otoscerlosis is usually Genetic and affects only one ear most of the time. Depending on the advice of your ENT ( I would get several opinions ) an operation will usually repair the stapes and your hearing in the affected ear will be close to the non affected ear after a successful operation.

Things to consider - If it will not affect you health or if the Otoscerlosisis is not getting worse, I would opt out of an operation – there is a chance the operation will fail and cause a worse hearing loss. A hearing aid would work very well should you desire to hear better, you can take it out when you don’t. Also, I believe the repair of the Stapes usually lasts for 5-9 years on average then another operation may be needed.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 3:20 AMSubject: Re: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso

Dr. -I thought I needed to respond to this particular thread because I 1) Have a pretty bad case of Misophonia (at least it seems bad to me and those who I have relations with) and 2) I have hearing loss.My particular type of hearing loss is from a condition called Otosclerosis (sp?). One of the three bones in my ear is fused in place and does not move like it should. This has gone on since I was a child (probably from birth, but not confirmed... I did have excess earwax as a kid). My hearing is worse in my left ear and my right ear approaches normal levels of hearing. When talking on the phone, I have to hold it to my right ear. I don't have a hearing aid, and I can generally hold a normal conversation without any problem, but my audiologist said that whenever I wanted to do surgery for it, all I have to do is say the word. (On a side note, he does not have a working knowledge of how to help me with the Misophonia. I would

love to know if anyone has contacts in the St. Louis, MO area!) I do depend on this hearing impediment when dealing with my Misophonia. Depending on the trigger and the volume of the actual sound, sometimes I only need to cover my right ear to reduce my ability to hear it. Currently, I am 28 and pregnant with my second child. Although I haven't noticed an increase in my hearing loss, my ears do ring more often than normal.I figured you would be interested to find a case of Misophonia where the person has hearing issues.Regards,Amarette> > From: M <Oregon7@>> > To: Soundsensitivity > > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM> > Subject: Hearnig Loss and 4S/miso> > > > > >

 > > One little item I could contribute here is the fact that I have never yet evaluated someone with 4S/Miso who had significant hearing loss.> > > > The vast majority of sufferers have perfect hearing if not better than average hearing. One child recently had full -10 scores across the auditory test tones....that was kind of amazing, really, like a bionic ear and I do think this does contribute to the misery a bit.> > > > IT would be fantastic if I could do a 30 year study starting with initial auditory tests and using the MRQ (The Misophonia Reaction Questionnaire) along with a couple other evaluative tools, like Beck Test for Anxiety, etc. and then see, if over the decades, as the subjects aged and lost decibels of hearing, IF their 4S/Miso scores would improve.> > > > I suspect they do.> > > > Expose yourself to sound, people, listen to music, go to

concerts, learn to play in a band or quartet, dance the flamenco, whatever it takes to expose your system to plenty of stimulation.> > > > Earplugs are not a good solution, they will simply cause your poor ol' brain to turn up its internal volume, trying to catch the noise and sounds, which are its nourishment, if you can see this clearly.> > > > When you deprive the auditory system of 'food' (sound), it starves for this and becomes even more acutely anxious in seeking it, and becomes ravenous for sound, and will find the tiniest crumb or speck and devour it!!!!!!!!!!> > > > Seriously, that is what happens when you put in those ear plugs.> > > > Feed it, stuff it, make every day a Thanksgiving of Sound for your auditory system, indulge it, over eat it, consume and explore the vast realms of new types of ear-food for your brain!> > > > Do not ignore it.

You can see that perhaps 4S/Miso can become a kind of anorexia for the ears!> > > > So go out and do this. Set up every space in your home as an auditory experience!> > > > A delightful Feast O Noise (A Dr. term...)> > > > Dr. Marsha , Audiologit, Portland, Oregon> >>