Neuro-feedback and insomnia/Misophonia

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I need to report on the progress I have made with a type of neuro-feedback. About 6 weeks ago I spent one week at Brain State Tech. in sdale, AZ, because itcame up in a list of neurofeedback practitioners in my area. It is a bit different from some other neurofeedback practices, none of which I have any experience with, but wanted to try because of the results that have been discussed on this site. I had ten 1 1/2 hour sessions over the course of 5 days (at a total cost of $2,000.00), where I basically sit and listen to various tones and am hooked up to electrodes that are attached to my head and moved every 15 minutes of so. Very simple and I slept through much of it. ( I am always tired because I have

severe insomnia). Sleeping they said would not affect the results. Anyway I have been hoping for some results with my Misophonia, but have not yet felt any reduction in symptoms. But I have been doing much better with it because for the first time in over 3 decades I am sleeping 7-8 hours a night of very restful sleep, for about a month now. AMAZING! I have tried everything for insomnia spent thousands of dollars on treatments, medications, you name it, nothing would even put a dent in it. I did get some sleep when I used drugs, but I became addicted to sleeping pills and in time they didn't work well. I have been walking dead for over 30 years but now sleep like a baby. And my Misophonia, while still there is a bit easier to cope with since I am not tired and stressed and am well rested. I am just

reporting my results here. Nothing in it for me. I hope to eventually get some help with Neurofeedback. I may try another type and see if that works. I am monitoring the results of others on this site to see how it is working for them. I do feel hopeful that there will be help for this disease in the near future. Thanks for all that goes on here. I love the help and support I get here. Mike L.

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----- Forwarded Message ----- To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity > Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 1:26 PM Subject: Re: Neuro-feedback and insomnia/Misophonia

MichealThere are several mapping approaches to NFB. There's the QEEG which maps and can be used with a variety of systems for feedback and some add in LORRETA. There's the one my Dr uses which is LENS for mapping and Cynet for the feedback. Most practitioners don't own all of them, too expensive. So they get trained on what they've decided on and maybe over time buy something new depending on what they're hearing from others or the additional training they get. I do not profess to know which will work best. I used Zengar for awhile and got impatient felt it was moving too slow for me. Cyle was successful with QEED guided approach. I am now doing LENS because it's what my Dr uses (she started me with LENS then Zengar) and she enjoys a terrific reputation. Not everyone doing NFB knows what they are doing. Also the QEEG map is expensive and usually has to be

sent somewhere for reading wheras my Dr does LENS herself. So there's many approaches and we do not yet know if they all or only some will work. I'm hoping we who are trying can all report which approach our practitioners are using so we can learn from it and provide what we learn to others. HeidiSent from my iPhone

Heidi,So glad you are getting positive results with NFB, and got rid of you tremor and can sleep better. You sent me a site to find NFB practitioners in my area and they came up. It is BrainStateTech.com. It just so happened that their world headquarters was right near my home in sdale. They have over 120 offices worldwide. Very well run and a very relaxing and enjoyable time. I didn't mention that the graphs they showed me of my brain waves at the beginning were all over the place, huge spikes and drops and very divergent. After a few days they were almost flat, especially in the sleep area. Not sure

exactly what they signify, but I just know they were very smooth and even. And I can sleep for

the first time in at least 30 years. I could never sleep more than 4 or 5 hours at a time. Always tired and groggy. Miserable. They usually only do the 10 sessions with an occasional follow up session or two. I am not sure if more will make a difference with this type of NFB. But great results with sleep anyway, which is a start. I will look into LENS and CYGNET. This seems to be more promising than other therapies. I don't think all the psychotherapy in the world can make any significant change in Misophonia. Drugs are out for me. And desensitization just seems futile. CBT I guess can help some. Good luck with yours.Mike To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity > Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Neuro-feedback and

insomnia/Misophonia

Micheal, that is great. I too have been remarkably helped in the sleep department by NFB, which in turn helps immensely with coping with 4S. And like I said it has helped with my essential tremor and overall calming which helps with everything including patience and not getting so upset. May I ask what kind of NFB you did? Just want to add that 10 sessions is sort of a starting point and most likely not enough to affect our deeply rooted problem with Misophonia. I'm at around 10 and know I still have a long way to go. I am now doing LENS and CYGNET (in hopes of reaching that deep my lymbic system.). LENS is does mapping similar to QEEG but not as intensive and then the systems are used based on the mapping results. The very first session I had was to get a LENS map done of my brain. We did Zengar for a while and now we're focusing on CYGNET because I requested

it. Sent from my iPhone

I need to report on the progress I have made with a type of neuro-feedback. About 6 weeks ago I spent one week at Brain State Tech. in sdale, AZ, because itcame up in a list of neurofeedback practitioners in my area. It is a bit different from some other neurofeedback practices, none of which I have any experience with, but wanted to try because of the results that have been discussed on this site. I had ten 1 1/2 hour sessions over the course of 5 days (at a total cost of $2,000.00), where I basically sit and listen to various tones and am hooked up to electrodes that are attached to my head and moved every 15 minutes of so. Very simple and I slept through much of it. ( I

am always tired because I have

severe insomnia). Sleeping they said would not affect the results. Anyway I have been hoping for some results with my Misophonia, but have not yet felt any reduction in symptoms. But I have been doing much better with it because for the first time in over 3 decades I am sleeping 7-8 hours a night of very restful sleep, for about a month now. AMAZING! I have tried everything for insomnia spent thousands of dollars on treatments, medications, you name it, nothing would even put a dent in it. I did get some sleep when I used drugs, but I became addicted to sleeping pills and in time they didn't work well. I have been walking dead for over 30 years but now sleep like a baby. And my Misophonia, while still there is a bit easier to cope with since I am not tired and stressed and am well rested. I am just

reporting my results here. Nothing in it for me. I hope to eventually get some help with Neurofeedback. I may try another type and see if that works. I am monitoring the results of others on this site to see how it is working for them. I do feel hopeful that there will be help for this disease in the near future. Thanks for all that goes on here. I love the help and support I get here. Mike L.