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>Reply-To: ukherbal-list

>To: ukherbal-list

>Subject: Re: patient on warfarin

>Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:25:09 +0000

>

>Hi

>

>I have found a step by step approach useful here, small changes and check

>INR. Also i communicate with the doctor. Crataegus and leonurus is no

>problem along side warfarin. With one patient i even have them on Ginkgo,

>introduced slowly and in discussion with the doctor to monitor INR:

>actually

>didnt seem to make much difference.

>

>Would love to see Maureen advice on Melilot and warfarin.

>

>Best wishes Niki Lawrence

>

>

> >

> >Reply-To: ukherbal-list

> >To: ukherbal-list

> >Subject: Re: patient on warfarin

> >Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 02:29:54 +0000

> >

> >I take the same approach as Emmet but usually find that the herbs have

> >less affect on the warfarin levels/INR than we have been led to

> >believe. I advise frequent monitoring initially until things have

> >stabilized.

> >

> >Ãine Marie

> >

> >

> >

> > > Dear ,

> > >

> > > With warfarin pts , I tell most of them that they should arrange

> > > their warfarin intake around the herbs , and not the other way around

> > > , ie , if they want to go down that road . I also tell them that there

> > > is a herbal alternative . Maureen did her MSc on this topic

> > > and Mellilot .

> > > My advice is to say to the pt that he tells his doctor that he wants

> > > to use herbs and that he wants him to adjust the warfarin dosage to

> > > achieve the desired INR .

> > >

> > > Emmett Walsh

> > >

> > > patient on warfarin

> > >

> > > I may have mentioned this patient to the group before - he is on

> > > numerous

> > > drugs, including warfarin, after suffering a stroke. He is very keen

> > > to have

> > > herbal medicine and reduce the drug dosage, although his G.P. says he

> > > will

> > > have to stay on warfarin. He is in his early 60s but has been

> > > 'studying herbs'

> > > since he was 20! At the moment I have him on a mixture of Avena FE,

> > > Xanthoxylum, and Urtica, but he would like to have both Crataegus and

> > > Leonorus in his

> > > medicine and I am not sure of the compatibility here with warfarin.

>He

> > > knows that he cannot have Ginkgo or garlic, but is wondering about

> > > fish oils.

> > >

> > > Any suggestions please?

> > >

> > > Many thanks.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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