Re: Need for other antibiotics

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I got my official diagnosis from tests June 6 of last year and started

treatment November 4th. I don't worry about the skin thing because I don't

hang out in the sun anyway.

RA is progressive so if I don't do anything it will progress. The herxing

is not so bad and it is part of healing. I understand that the more severe

the case the more severe the herx. The way I figure it is that I can have

pain from getting sicker or pain from getting well.

j

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Hi SEG 14! Doxycycline has fewer side effects and I dont think it discolors

the skin. I have used doses of Pred. to control the Herxs. Hope this helps.

Al R.

rheumatic Need for other antibiotics

>From: SEG14@...

>

>I haven't started yet, but probably will soon if I continue to feel like

this.

>I had not been ill yet despite high RF, but have had my 1st bad month.

Have

>to wait to see if it was the Prosac I tried which I got an allergy to and

the

>allergy manifests itself as joint pain and the drug has a long half life

and

>stays in your system forever, so we'll see. But.....anyway.....I was

wondering

>what you do when you develop an infection that you would take antibiotics

for

>if you weren't on AP, for example a bad sinus infection or bronchitis etc.

Do

>you take another one or more of same or what? Also I need prophylactic

>antibiotics for dental work due to mitral valve prolapse. I take

tetracycline

>beforeso what would I do? Any advice appreciated.

>

>Also where do you get RA spes and what kind of supplement is it. I am

hoping

>to get on a new product by Metagenics called UltraInflammex which is for

>inflammatory processes in the body and goes along with a healthy

Mercola-like

>diet. If anyone wants info, let me know. My M.D.-acupuncturist

recommended

>it.

>

>Okay...here are more doctor's names:

>MY urologist is named Dr. Stone.

>I know two Doctors who are married and their last name is Doctor, so they

are

>both Dr. Doctor.

>My husband knows two lawyers who formed a partnership called Quick and

Tricky

>and those were really their names, and actually why they joined together,

>'cause they thought it was wild too!

>

>

>Lastly, is there anyone on-line who started this treatment when they were

>relatively early on in the disease regarding symptoms? If so, I'd love to

>hear from you. I'm so scared of the herx,especially because I'm getting

>around now. Thank you...

>Oh, and lastly...what about the skin turning color. Is that common? That

>freaks me.

>

>Feel good, all.

>

>SEG14@...

>c

>

>SEG14

>

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I can't verify how true this is, but I heard that in Washington State there

was a team of brothers who were gynecologists, named E.Rection and P.Rection.

!!

I've been on minocin for five years and my skin has never changed color.

Shirley

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Hi , Sounds like you are having flair rather than a Herx. My Herx.

came on a day that I had no pain at all. I had worked on some repairs on the

roof, did some plumbing, and used an air hammer on some cement. The last

chore was a mistake!! I went inside the house, took a shower, ate some

dinner, and my Herx. came over me like a very painful blanket! Within one

hour , I went from feeling great to not being able to move. I went to bed.

Could'nt move, could'nt sleep. I took 5 mg. Pred every 1-2 hrs. until the

pain began to subside. 30-40 mg. total. The next day I took 20 mg. Next day

10 mg. Nex t day 5 mg. etc. I have been in a flair for the last 4-5

weeks from trying to increase my Doxy from 200 to 300 mg. MWF. I have since,

backed down to 200 mg. with a decrease in symptoms. Last week I started the

O2 therapy suggested by Ray ( the critters do'nt like oxygen! ). I also

built an infra red sauna, and have been using that for the same length of

time ( 8 days ). I had to back off from them yesterday, due to the pain

flair ). I took 1mg. Pred today to see the effect. It's obvious to me , the

critters really dont like either one of the therapies! My suggestion to you,

which comes from information that I have recieved from this group ( whom I

love dearly ! ) is to stop the Doxy. until the symptoms subside. Porbably

4-10 days. Then start at a lower dose: 50 mg. MWF for 2-4 weeks. T hen

increase by 50 mg. increments until signs begin to show up at that dose, and

then stay there for a while. I listen to my bod to tell me where I am with

the dosage. I just purchased the book, Safe Uses Of Cortisol ( from the

list ) to guide me with acceptable uses of Pred. in humans. One thing that I

have learned from being in the group, is that humans are far more sensitive

to drugs than animals!!! Hope this helps. Best wishes and Hugs Al R.

rheumatic Need for other antibiotics

>>

>>

>>>From: SEG14@...

>>>

>>>I haven't started yet, but probably will soon if I continue to feel like

>>this.

>>>I had not been ill yet despite high RF, but have had my 1st bad month.

>>Have

>>>to wait to see if it was the Prosac I tried which I got an allergy to and

>>the

>>>allergy manifests itself as joint pain and the drug has a long half life

>>and

>>>stays in your system forever, so we'll see. But.....anyway.....I was

>>wondering

>>>what you do when you develop an infection that you would take antibiotics

>>for

>>>if you weren't on AP, for example a bad sinus infection or bronchitis

etc.

>>Do

>>>you take another one or more of same or what? Also I need prophylactic

>>>antibiotics for dental work due to mitral valve prolapse. I take

>>tetracycline

>>>beforeso what would I do? Any advice appreciated.

>>>

>>>Also where do you get RA spes and what kind of supplement is it. I am

>>hoping

>>>to get on a new product by Metagenics called UltraInflammex which is for

>>>inflammatory processes in the body and goes along with a healthy

>>Mercola-like

>>>diet. If anyone wants info, let me know. My M.D.-acupuncturist

>>recommended

>>>it.

>>>

>>>Okay...here are more doctor's names:

>>>MY urologist is named Dr. Stone.

>>>I know two Doctors who are married and their last name is Doctor, so they

>>are

>>>both Dr. Doctor.

>>>My husband knows two lawyers who formed a partnership called Quick and

>>Tricky

>>>and those were really their names, and actually why they joined together,

>>>'cause they thought it was wild too!

>>>

>>>

>>>Lastly, is there anyone on-line who started this treatment when they were

>>>relatively early on in the disease regarding symptoms? If so, I'd love

to

>>>hear from you. I'm so scared of the herx,especially because I'm getting

>>>around now. Thank you...

>>>Oh, and lastly...what about the skin turning color. Is that common?

That

>>>freaks me.

>>>

>>>Feel good, all.

>>>

>>>SEG14@...

>>>c

>>>

>>>SEG14

>>>

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II'm loving the doctors names! What fun.

Thanks, Shirley.

[Guest guest]

,

I guess my situation seems most similar to yours. I have been able to control

my symptoms with diet (till now...but I had been " bad " for 3 months while

travelling on and off). But you say you had very mild problems before the

antibiotics. Could you tell me how mild, and since they were, how did you get

the courage to do it, knowing you'd get worse. Now it seems, you are feeling

worse, yet I hear that you still feel you did the right thing. Is that true??

Is your belief that your getting sick now is simply a herx, and that if you

had done nothing, your mild would have become severe and you'd be feeling

lousy without treating the RA?

Also, I'm self-employed, need the $, and am scared re: loss of income,

although I do know if the RA gets worse, I'd be in the same boat anyway, and

w/o hope, too!

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, and I hope you're feeling better by

the time you get this.

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

It's so exciting to hear that you're hiking and dancing. Till one month ago,

I was a gym person, working out a lot and enjoying it. What I hate most is

the inactivity. I'm a physical person, and more than the discomfort, I can't

stand laying around like a slug!

Your story is inspiring. My knees are beginning to act up. I'm giving it to

the end of Februray, 'cause we're still checking out if this is a drug

reaction, then I'm going to start the treatment. I guess I'll do minocin, but

I'm wondering if tetracycline or doxy is better. How do people know?

You still do anti-inflammatories? I take Relafen now, and when I do I feel

pretty okay. I wonder if it's okay to go on a treadmill if you do feel well

on the meds. I'm afraid of joint damage, though I have no swelling and knees

only hurt now when I move from sit to stand.

I " m so glad you feel well.! And thanks for the info.

,

[Guest guest]

SEG14@... wrote:

> what you do when you develop an infection that you would take antibiotics for

> if you weren't on AP, for example a bad sinus infection or bronchitis etc. Do

> you take another one or more of same or what? Also I need prophylactic

If the additional antibiotic is compatible with minocycline/doxycycline, then

you

can take it at the same time. If it isn't compatible, then you would stop the

minocycline/doxycycline for a week or so while you take the course of the

additional

antibiotic. Then resume the minocycline/doxycycline.

Chris.