Re: Allergic or Irritation

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

When I was trying to get pregnant (many years ago) I went through several

fertility tests. One of them (can't remember which now) determined I was

killing off my husbands sperm before it could get to the tubes. Something

about the ph balance of my vagina, and I was reminded of it when I read your

post. I used a vinegar & water douche about an hour before intercourse. The

first month I tried it, I was pregnant. I have always had irritation after

intercourse. Now I'm wondering if I do have an allergic reaction to my

husbands sperm. I'm sure condoms would help by not letting the sperm enter,

but there is no way I could tolerate a condom. But, the allergic thing is

something else for me to consider. Thanks for the thought. Diane

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

You raise a good point. I too have alot more irritation after sex, especially

the day after. Sorry to get graphic but, the next morning I have a discharge

from the semen that burns very bad. I wonder if there is a connection.

Beckie

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

I've also wondered if semen is irritating to my tissues. After we have

intercourse, I burn like crazy for a few hours, especially if I have to get

up to urinate. We did a little experiment and used condoms for a while,

even though I'm on the pill. Although it definitely still hurt, I did feel

like my skin was less irritated afterward. You may want to give it a try

and see if you have similar results. I'd be very interested to know what

happens if anyone tries this.

At 10:02 AM 12/2/98 -0500, you wrote:

>From: WillisWay@...

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>Hello,

> I talked with a woman once who could not get pregnant because her husband's

>sperm was not the right Ph balance to exist in her reproductive tract. This

>has got my mind to working. I wonder if some of us could be allergic, or have

>irritation from the actual sperm, rather than just the act of intercouse.

>Because I feel much worse after intercourse even that during it. I'd like any

>thoughts on this. Thanks!

> Kathy

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[Guest guest]

Dear All,

Obviously my initial thoughts were that my husband and I were allergic to

each other, but since hearing from all of you, I'm not sure anymore. When I

first joined the vulvodynia list I asked whether people had first noticed

their problems shortly after meeting their new partner. I did get a couple

of replies saying 'yes', but that was all, so I took it that the majority

were saying 'no'.

If it is an allergic reaction, I wonder whether it could just be PH levels

in the skin, not necessarily just in the sperm. I say this because I don't

get as far as intercourse anymore (its an impossibility), but I do still get

the pain and burning from the slightest little touch.

Just a few of my thoughts.

Kind regards

- vvs, POC, burning

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[Guest guest]

I get the same thing! I wonder if its just from being there at all or I am

actually allergic to it. It doesn't happen everytime, though. I do think I

am allergic to latex however, because whenever I use condoms I burn soooo

bad. I've had to switch to the pill for that and other reasons. Also, I know

the pill has nothing to do with the cause of my pain because I have only

been on it for a year and I have had pain for 6 years.

At 12:04 PM 12/2/98 -0500, you wrote:

>From: RAL341@...

>

>Kathy,

>You raise a good point. I too have alot more irritation after sex, especially

>the day after. Sorry to get graphic but, the next morning I have a discharge

>from the semen that burns very bad. I wonder if there is a connection.

>Beckie

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[Guest guest]

You know what you guys....I have this problem too!

Even though I've been able to have sex every once in awhile recently,

the semen is very irritating to me. Because I'm trying to get pregnant,

I try not to get up and wipe it out right away (like I used to always do

because it stings). However, by the time I finally do get up and go to

the bathroom, it burns like hell and I usually have to take a bath with

Aveeno to deaden the burning/raw sensation.

Now I wonder if we're allergic to the semen, or if it's just irritating

our already very irritated vulvar skin. Kind of like 'which comes

first, the chicken or the egg'?

I've noticed something else that I've been meaning to ask about and keep

forgetting to. Has anyone ever noticed that after they urinate, there

is a film in the toilet water. It's a kind of shimmery film. I have

noticed it appears when I seem to be in the most discomfort. I wondered

if it was acid or something weird.

Heidi

> Kathy,

> I've also wondered if semen is irritating to my tissues. After we

> have intercourse, I burn like crazy for a few hours, especially if I

> have to get up to urinate.

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

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>Now I wonder if we're allergic to the semen, or if it's just irritating

>our already very irritated vulvar skin. Kind of like 'which comes

>first, the chicken or the egg'?

I have problems with this, too, and I'm not trying to get pregnant

so I usually get up right after sex and go 'squeeze it out' into the toilet.

I read somewhere that most semen is very alkaline (pH of about 9), and our

vaginas prefer to be acidic. Maybe the mixture of the different pH's is

what causes a problem.. or maybe it's an allergy - it's possible!

>I've noticed something else that I've been meaning to ask about and keep

>forgetting to. Has anyone ever noticed that after they urinate, there

>is a film in the toilet water. It's a kind of shimmery film. I have

>noticed it appears when I seem to be in the most discomfort. I wondered

>if it was acid or something weird.

I've noticed something similar, but it's not shimmery. I've also

noticed several times that my urine smells very WEIRD, and sometimes very

strong, too and it's usually during (or just preceding) a flare-up. Anybody

else??

Gail

[Guest guest]

My doctor told me, because I have a yeast problem, when I was yeasty, have

hubby use a condom. I wonder if a yeast vaginal cream on the penis would

help. Not before intercourse, but say, three times a day for two weeks. I

also know that oral sex can pass yeast. We all have it in our mouths.

Sorry if I offended anyone. I don't know all the rules yet. Just an old

soul with lots of years behind me.

Lona

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>My husband and I had an intense discussion the other day where he admitted

that he feels like he gave this to me. That it's his fault. Of course it's

NOT his fault (it's no one's fault) but ...

>I did get it after being with him for only about a year.... AND he says it

happened with his first girlfriend too. Coincidence? Could it be some kind

of weird yeast or something he carries that I'm sensitive

>to? But now that I've got it I've got it - changing partners won't make it

go away so it can't be us together. You see what I mean?

>

>Just throwing stuff around.

>

>Cathleen

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[Guest guest]

My husband and I had an intense discussion the other day where he admitted that

he feels like he gave this to me. That it's his fault. Of course it's NOT his

fault (it's no one's fault) but ...

I did get it after being with him for only about a year.... AND he says it

happened with his first girlfriend too. Coincidence? Could it be some kind of

weird yeast or something he carries that I'm sensitive

to? But now that I've got it I've got it - changing partners won't make it go

away so it can't be us together. You see what I mean?

Just throwing stuff around.

Cathleen

[Guest guest]

Gail and Heidi,

I do not get the film in the toilet but, I alot of times get the strong urine

smell. I do not think it is an allergy to sperm but just an irritation. I find

it helps to rinse off with water after.

Beckie

[Guest guest]

Heidi

Has anyone ever noticed that after they urinate, there

>is a film in the toilet water. It's a kind of shimmery film.

Yes, it looks like dirty petrol on water, its one of those things I took to

be normal I guess, but as you've mentioned it.

Kind regards

- vvs, POC, burning

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