Re: Turmeric - was: My Second Zyto Scan

[Guest guest]

I completely agree with you.

Sasmita

> > >

> > > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for foods...but fair

warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > lisa

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We have tried several silica-rich herbs in attempt to chelate aluminum in

vain. Nutramedix Avea (liquid curcumin extracted from turmeric) is the only

herb/product that helps us pouring out some aluminum reflected on my son's

UTM.

Limin

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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 09:50

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Turmeric - was: My Second

Zyto Scan

> Behind cod liver oil, turmeric may be the most widely used supplement in

> children with autism. It is being used so widely because it works for so

> many. It was the first antibacterial agent we used, and it took away a

> good 20% of our symptoms. That's darn right amazing! If you search the

> autism forums, you will see turmeric, curcumin, and Enhansa all over the

> place.

>

> I remember when I first started hearing about it. I saw a scientific

> study on how it decreased brain inflammation by protecting the nerves from

> toxins. The study said it was very successful at protecting the brain

> from toxins like lead in comparison to other known substances. This sold

> me. This was over two years ago. I remember how successful we were with

> it, and of course I shared this with others. Some were telling me at that

> time, that their doc had mentioned it. Nowadays, it's all over the forums

> and is really just like the name, Enhansa, states. It is looked upon as

> enhancing the overall healing program for those with autism by improving

> digestion, liver function and reducing brain inflammation. It is not the

> cure, and not the only thing needed, but rather enhanses one's efforts in

> these areas.

>

> Don't take my word for it, do the research yourself. As much as one can

> break down the science and say it has phenols or does such and such, one

> can not decipher all the science. Only by taking it, can you know if it

> is right for you. Look at nuts. They have lots of cholesterol, yet

> studies show that eating nuts lowers cholesterol. We do not know all the

> science on how nuts do this. This is why actually taking the product and

> then gaging results is the only true way to know the results a product

> obtains.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

>

>> >

>> > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for foods...but

>> > fair warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > lisa

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Limin,

Wow! I would love to try it.

Does it has any bad effect on the behavior and what's the dosage for it?

Thanks,

Sasmita

> >> >

> >> > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for foods...but

> >> > fair warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > lisa

> >> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

have you tried silica itself? We use this one http://www.blueherbs.co.uk/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=111

Natasa

We have tried several silica-rich herbs in attempt to chelate aluminum in

vain. Nutramedix Avea (liquid curcumin extracted from turmeric) is the only

herb/product that helps us pouring out some aluminum reflected on my son's

UTM.

Limin

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From: " ambitionn01 " <Ambitionn01@... <mailto:Ambitionn01%40aol.com> >

Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 09:50

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism <mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism%40yahoogroups.com> >

Subject: Turmeric - was: My Second

Zyto Scan

> Behind cod liver oil, turmeric may be the most widely used supplement in

> children with autism. It is being used so widely because it works for so

> many. It was the first antibacterial agent we used, and it took away a

> good 20% of our symptoms. That's darn right amazing! If you search the

> autism forums, you will see turmeric, curcumin, and Enhansa all over the

> place.

>

> I remember when I first started hearing about it. I saw a scientific

> study on how it decreased brain inflammation by protecting the nerves from

> toxins. The study said it was very successful at protecting the brain

> from toxins like lead in comparison to other known substances. This sold

> me. This was over two years ago. I remember how successful we were with

> it, and of course I shared this with others. Some were telling me at that

> time, that their doc had mentioned it. Nowadays, it's all over the forums

> and is really just like the name, Enhansa, states. It is looked upon as

> enhancing the overall healing program for those with autism by improving

> digestion, liver function and reducing brain inflammation. It is not the

> cure, and not the only thing needed, but rather enhanses one's efforts in

> these areas.

>

> Don't take my word for it, do the research yourself. As much as one can

> break down the science and say it has phenols or does such and such, one

> can not decipher all the science. Only by taking it, can you know if it

> is right for you. Look at nuts. They have lots of cholesterol, yet

> studies show that eating nuts lowers cholesterol. We do not know all the

> science on how nuts do this. This is why actually taking the product and

> then gaging results is the only true way to know the results a product

> obtains.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

>

>> >

>> > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for foods...but

>> > fair warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > lisa

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Natasa.

My son has always been on liquid silica supplement one brand or another, as we have been struggling in getting aluminum out of him. I used CellFood Essential Silica Formula in the past. Later because I was unsure about whether the product contains radiative compounds or not, I have changed to use Cell Power Super Silica. I plan to try Biosil recommended by DK, after I use up my current bottle of Super Silica. Oddly, none of these silica supplements work as well as Avea when it comes to getting aluminum out of my son.

Limin

From: Neno/Natasa

Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:15

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Subject: Re: Turmeric - was: My Second Zyto Scan

have you tried silica itself? We use this one http://www.blueherbs.co.uk/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=111Natasa We have tried several silica-rich herbs in attempt to chelate aluminum in vain. Nutramedix Avea (liquid curcumin extracted from turmeric) is the only herb/product that helps us pouring out some aluminum reflected on my son's UTM.Limin--------------------------------------------------From: "ambitionn01" <Ambitionn01@... <mailto:Ambitionn01%40aol.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 09:50To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism <mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism%40yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Turmeric - was: My Second Zyto Scan> Behind cod liver oil, turmeric may be the most widely used supplement in > children with autism. It is being used so widely because it works for so > many. It was the first antibacterial agent we used, and it took away a > good 20% of our symptoms. That's darn right amazing! If you search the > autism forums, you will see turmeric, curcumin, and Enhansa all over the > place.>> I remember when I first started hearing about it. I saw a scientific > study on how it decreased brain inflammation by protecting the nerves from > toxins. The study said it was very successful at protecting the brain > from toxins like lead in comparison to other known substances. This sold > me. This was over two years ago. I remember how successful we were with > it, and of course I shared this with others. Some were telling me at that > time, that their doc had mentioned it. Nowadays, it's all over the forums > and is really just like the name, Enhansa, states. It is looked upon as > enhancing the overall healing program for those with autism by improving > digestion, liver function and reducing brain inflammation. It is not the > cure, and not the only thing needed, but rather enhanses one's efforts in > these areas.>> Don't take my word for it, do the research yourself. As much as one can > break down the science and say it has phenols or does such and such, one > can not decipher all the science. Only by taking it, can you know if it > is right for you. Look at nuts. They have lots of cholesterol, yet > studies show that eating nuts lowers cholesterol. We do not know all the > science on how nuts do this. This is why actually taking the product and > then gaging results is the only true way to know the results a product > obtains.>> Love and prayers,>> Heidi N>>> >> >>> > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for foods...but >> > fair warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.>> >>> >>> >>> > lisa>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

Sasmita,

I use 8 drops of Avea 3X during our chelation days. I do not observe any

side effects. Different herbs travel through different meridian systems in

the body. Nutramedix has a proprietary extraction and enhancement process

that makes Avea more effective than a regular curcumin brand. Dr. LC does

not use Avea as a metal chelator as the way I use it. He recommends it as

anti-depressant, antioxidant, and anti-inflammatory when treating Lyme. In

the TCM practice, turmeric is used to treat skin diseases, wound healing,

stimulate the production of bile, facilitate the emptying of the

gallbladder, and support liver.

Some researches have proven that curcumin produced a marked increase of

serotonin and noradrenalin levels in both the frontal cortex and the

hippocampus in the mice. Dopamine levels were also increased in the frontal

cortex and the striatum. It was found to inhibit the monoamine oxidize

activity in the mouse brain. This is why Nutramedix calls their product

Avea " Mood Support " .

Limin

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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:14

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: Turmeric - was: My

Second Zyto Scan

> Limin,

>

> Wow! I would love to try it.

> Does it has any bad effect on the behavior and what's the dosage for it?

>

> Thanks,

> Sasmita

>

>> >> >

>> >> > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for

>> >> > foods...but

>> >> > fair warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > lisa

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ------------------------------------

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Limin,

Do you know of any med or supplement or anything under the sun that can reduce

Dopamine levels?

Thanks,

Sasmita

> >> >> >

> >> >> > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for

> >> >> > foods...but

> >> >> > fair warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > lisa

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

Does your child have high levels of Dopamine?

Limin

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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 13:34

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: Turmeric - was: My

Second Zyto Scan

> Limin,

>

> Do you know of any med or supplement or anything under the sun that can

> reduce Dopamine levels?

>

>

> Thanks,

> Sasmita

>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for

>> >> >> > foods...but

>> >> >> > fair warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > lisa

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > ------------------------------------

>> >> >

>> >> >

[Guest guest]

Yeah, and I think that's the major contributor in stimmimng.

Have you done any genetic testing to find out about Specific Methylation

problems(to pinpoint) in your kid, if yes what are they and where?

My son is an under-methylator and showing less SAMe, I think I should supplement

it.

Again, which brand of SAMe have you used? Any possible bad effects?

I am sorry for asking you too many questions;)

Thanks so much,

Sasmita

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for

> >> >> >> > foods...but

> >> >> >> > fair warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > lisa

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

limin and crew,

you mean with all the heavy duty chelation whether it be dmsa, dmps or edta etc...AL didn't budge?  i can't get matts to budge but budged the mercury just be treating bugs...

so what's best with AL, AR and Lead...whoever thought lead and mercury could take a back seat to AL and AR!

lisa

Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill.

[Guest guest]

,

We've got to mercury and lead in good amount. But aluminum has been a long haul for us. I secretly believe once we manage to pull out good amount of aluminum, my son will talk up a storm. Most of literature points to the use of silica, malic acid, and cilantro for chelating aluminum. We are on all of these plus rotation of EDTA, DMSA, and DMPS; still we have not had much good luck with getting out aluminum. I think that I still need to address his bacterial layer to get to meaningful excretion of aluminum.

Limin

From: personalcargo@...

Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 21:29

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Subject: Re: Turmeric - was: My Second Zyto Scan

limin and crew,

you mean with all the heavy duty chelation whether it be dmsa, dmps or edta etc...AL didn't budge? i can't get matts to budge but budged the mercury just be treating bugs...

so what's best with AL, AR and Lead...whoever thought lead and mercury could take a back seat to AL and AR!

lisa

Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill.

[Guest guest]

Sasmita,

I did a Yasko nutrigenomic panel 4 years ago, when we just started biomed

interventions. Since then Yasko has updated some of of SNAPs on her panel.

COMT degrades dopamine in the process using up methyl groups. So if you

supplement with methyl groups, you can help to breakdown dopamine more

rapidly. Since your child is an under-methylator, using more methyl groups

can be beneficial. Here is a list of methyl donors listed in Yasko's forum:

SAMe

FgF

curcumin

MSM

DMG

TMG

methyl B12

Folapro

Intrinsic B12

PS

melatonin

caffeine products

theanine

CoQ10

Quercetin

Carnitine

Idebenone

DMAE

Zen

Theanine

Limin

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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 15:44

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: Turmeric - was: My

Second Zyto Scan

> Yeah, and I think that's the major contributor in stimmimng.

>

> Have you done any genetic testing to find out about Specific Methylation

> problems(to pinpoint) in your kid, if yes what are they and where?

>

> My son is an under-methylator and showing less SAMe, I think I should

> supplement it.

> Again, which brand of SAMe have you used? Any possible bad effects?

>

> I am sorry for asking you too many questions;)

>

> Thanks so much,

> Sasmita

>

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for

>> >> >> >> > foods...but

>> >> >> >> > fair warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > lisa

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > ------------------------------------

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Sasmita,

I did a Yasko nutrigenomic panel 4 years ago, when we just started biomed

interventions. Since then Yasko has updated some of of SNAPs on her panel.

COMT degrades dopamine in the process using up methyl groups. So if you

supplement with methyl groups, you can help to breakdown dopamine more

rapidly. Since your child is an under-methylator, using more methyl groups

can be beneficial. Here is a list of methyl donors listed in Yasko's forum:

SAMe

FgF

curcumin

MSM

DMG

TMG

methyl B12

Folapro

Intrinsic B12

PS

melatonin

caffeine products

theanine

CoQ10

Quercetin

Carnitine

Idebenone

DMAE

Zen

Theanine

Limin

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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 15:44

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: Turmeric - was: My

Second Zyto Scan

> Yeah, and I think that's the major contributor in stimmimng.

>

> Have you done any genetic testing to find out about Specific Methylation

> problems(to pinpoint) in your kid, if yes what are they and where?

>

> My son is an under-methylator and showing less SAMe, I think I should

> supplement it.

> Again, which brand of SAMe have you used? Any possible bad effects?

>

> I am sorry for asking you too many questions;)

>

> Thanks so much,

> Sasmita

>

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for

>> >> >> >> > foods...but

>> >> >> >> > fair warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > lisa

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > ------------------------------------

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks alot Limin.

Which is the best brand to buy SAMe

Thanks,

Sasmita

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for

> >> >> >> >> > foods...but

> >> >> >> >> > fair warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > lisa

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks alot Limin.

Which is the best brand to buy SAMe

Thanks,

Sasmita

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > tumeric is really high in oxalate...LOD is great list for

> >> >> >> >> > foods...but

> >> >> >> >> > fair warning...it's lyme and mold in denial.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > lisa

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

It eliminates inflammation, so it could improve the gut, brain, and joints. When I take it on a day when I hurt all over, it helps me not to feel so sore. I think, there are gains from just feeling better. My son said that pain locked him into an "autistic like state". Dosage we used was 1,500mg a day for a 6 year old. I know someone else with a 6 year old with uveitis taking 3,000 mg a day.

[Guest guest]

It eliminates inflammation, so it could improve the gut, brain, and joints. When I take it on a day when I hurt all over, it helps me not to feel so sore. I think, there are gains from just feeling better. My son said that pain locked him into an "autistic like state". Dosage we used was 1,500mg a day for a 6 year old. I know someone else with a 6 year old with uveitis taking 3,000 mg a day.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

This is more of a question than an answer(sorry). Has anyone tracked

metal levels with the zyto while doing ionic foot baths? The foot baths

pull everything, but mercury. Maybe that would be an option to help

lower the load. Just a thought.

Peggy

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

This is more of a question than an answer(sorry). Has anyone tracked

metal levels with the zyto while doing ionic foot baths? The foot baths

pull everything, but mercury. Maybe that would be an option to help

lower the load. Just a thought.

Peggy

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

This is more of a question than an answer(sorry). Has anyone tracked

metal levels with the zyto while doing ionic foot baths? The foot baths

pull everything, but mercury. Maybe that would be an option to help

lower the load. Just a thought.

Peggy

[Guest guest]

Peggy, is there any other method than Aquachi to have an ionic footbath?

Thanks,

sasmita

>

> Hi ,

> This is more of a question than an answer(sorry). Has anyone tracked

> metal levels with the zyto while doing ionic foot baths? The foot baths

> pull everything, but mercury. Maybe that would be an option to help

> lower the load. Just a thought.

> Peggy

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sasmita,

I am not sure of other methods to mimic a foot bath. I do know that some people

report good results from clay baths. We use even better now brand of clay. It

comes in a huge tub. That is supposed to be effective in lowering the load.

There are other clays out there as well.

There are also many ionic foot baths out there as well. We use ion cleanse. I

know that many companies are now making more affordable models.

Have a great night.

Peggy

[Guest guest]

that is so interesting and I wonder, how do you know what dosage of turmeric is in 1/4 a tsp? Do you have any idea?

[Guest guest]

When I first started giving Stan turmeric I put it in an empty

500 mg capsule that had contained bromelain. two 500 mg capsules = 1/4

tsp. The Enhansa site says max dosage is 2 - 500 mg capsules in

morning and another two at noon/mid day, so that's the dosage I worked

up to. I give one 500 mg capsule of bromelain with 1/4 tsp turmeric

and 1 tsp CLO in his juice in the morning. I do the same when he wakes

up from his nape (around 2:30) but I give him fish oil rather than the

CLO at that time.

that is

so interesting and I wonder, how do you know what dosage of turmeric

is in 1/4 a tsp? Do you have any idea?