Guest guest Posted February 26, 1999 Report Share Posted February 26, 1999 , all generic minocycline is not made by Lederle. Check your capsule and see what brand name is on there. It's my understanding Lederle licenses Wyeth Ayerst and ESI to make the Lederle generic. I don't know if you were in the group when we discussed the problem of ineffective generics, but since you are having a problem, you might want to check the name of the manufacture on the capsules you are using. Ethel DMBGone@... wrote: > > From: DMBGone@... > > Hi all, here. Yes, I'm having a set back. I guess it's my " step back " . > It's been so long since I've had one, that I need your guys help in telling me > what to do! I'm sore, I'm VERY tired, and I just can't do anything, I have no > gumption. I get lots of headaches, and want to eat all day long. Also, my > mood swings are unreal. No, they're not. Yes, they are. See, there I go > again. Ugh. I'm on 30 mg Prednisone, so my face is hairy, because that's > what 30 mg does to me! It's never affected my moods before at this level, but > maybe it is now. I have Chushings syndrome from the Prednisone (when you get, > I'll call it " pleasantly plump " in certain spots) and it hurts, which it > hardly ever has before. My skin hurts, and I WANT CHOCOLATE. OK, I feel > better. Doesn't it just feel good to complain sometimes to people who > understand? Thank you so much for reading this. I'll send my cyber-broom > over to you to clean up the big dumb of complaining that I just laid on of > you. Here it comes... SWEEP. OK, done, I feel better and I cleaned up my > mess. Can you tell I'm an emotional wreck right now? My husband just doesn't > know what to do with me. He gives me these sad puppy-eyed looks and just hugs > me while I'm loosing my mind because the dog is looking at me ALL the time and > the drain in the sink is dripping and that pencil just KEEPS rolling of the > counter EVERY time I put it down and I'm having a bad hair day (Just can't get > that mustache to look quite right). OK, enough. I'm done complaining for > real now, I feel much better. Thanks! > Nutty for now, and foggy as ever, > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Have you visited our new web site? > > Onelist: Helping to create Internet communities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 1999 Report Share Posted February 26, 1999 In a message dated 2/26/99 4:00:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, snooks@... writes: << , all generic minocycline is not made by Lederle. Check your capsule and see what brand name is on there. It's my understanding Lederle licenses Wyeth Ayerst and ESI to make the Lederle generic. I don't know if you were in the group when we discussed the problem of ineffective generics, but since you are having a problem, you might want to check the name of the manufacture on the capsules you are using. Ethel >> Ethel, My capsules say barr 933 on them. Does that mean they may not help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 1999 Report Share Posted February 26, 1999 Wow I have days like that not as sore as you sound, but moody and I have been craving chocolate like crazy. I generally like some occasionally, but now I want it all the time. We went to Costco today and they were giving samples of chocolate cookies I about cleaned them out. One diet book I read said your body will crave what your allergic too because it gives you a temperary high, like a drug addict. So far I haven't been able to go off the chocolate long enough to see if it makes me feel better. Hope you feel better soon. DMBGone@... wrote: > > From: DMBGone@... > > Hi all, here. Yes, I'm having a set back. I guess it's my " step back " . > It's been so long since I've had one, that I need your guys help in telling me > what to do! I'm sore, I'm VERY tired, and I just can't do anything, I have no > gumption. I get lots of headaches, and want to eat all day long. Also, my > mood swings are unreal. No, they're not. Yes, they are. See, there I go > again. Ugh. I'm on 30 mg Prednisone, so my face is hairy, because that's > what 30 mg does to me! It's never affected my moods before at this level, but > maybe it is now. I have Chushings syndrome from the Prednisone (when you get, > I'll call it " pleasantly plump " in certain spots) and it hurts, which it > hardly ever has before. My skin hurts, and I WANT CHOCOLATE. OK, I feel > better. Doesn't it just feel good to complain sometimes to people who > understand? Thank you so much for reading this. I'll send my cyber-broom > over to you to clean up the big dumb of complaining that I just laid on of > you. Here it comes... SWEEP. OK, done, I feel better and I cleaned up my > mess. Can you tell I'm an emotional wreck right now? My husband just doesn't > know what to do with me. He gives me these sad puppy-eyed looks and just hugs > me while I'm loosing my mind because the dog is looking at me ALL the time and > the drain in the sink is dripping and that pencil just KEEPS rolling of the > counter EVERY time I put it down and I'm having a bad hair day (Just can't get > that mustache to look quite right). OK, enough. I'm done complaining for > real now, I feel much better. Thanks! > Nutty for now, and foggy as ever, > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Have you visited our new web site? > > Onelist: Helping to create Internet communities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 1999 Report Share Posted February 27, 1999 Gosh you sound just like me when I first was diagnosed. 30 mgms of prednisone would be enough to make Mother Theresa a wreck!! It's probably PMS and the pred. Hang in there,see if you can get the pred down a little and you should feel better soon. Wish I could help more. I'll say a BIG prayer for you tonight. Love Cooky DMBGone@... wrote: > > From: DMBGone@... > > Hi all, here. Yes, I'm having a set back. I guess it's my " step back " . > It's been so long since I've had one, that I need your guys help in telling me > what to do! I'm sore, I'm VERY tired, and I just can't do anything, I have no > gumption. I get lots of headaches, and want to eat all day long. Also, my > mood swings are unreal. No, they're not. Yes, they are. See, there I go > again. Ugh. I'm on 30 mg Prednisone, so my face is hairy, because that's > what 30 mg does to me! It's never affected my moods before at this level, but > maybe it is now. I have Chushings syndrome from the Prednisone (when you get, > I'll call it " pleasantly plump " in certain spots) and it hurts, which it > hardly ever has before. My skin hurts, and I WANT CHOCOLATE. OK, I feel > better. Doesn't it just feel good to complain sometimes to people who > understand? Thank you so much for reading this. I'll send my cyber-broom > over to you to clean up the big dumb of complaining that I just laid on of > you. Here it comes... SWEEP. OK, done, I feel better and I cleaned up my > mess. Can you tell I'm an emotional wreck right now? My husband just doesn't > know what to do with me. He gives me these sad puppy-eyed looks and just hugs > me while I'm loosing my mind because the dog is looking at me ALL the time and > the drain in the sink is dripping and that pencil just KEEPS rolling of the > counter EVERY time I put it down and I'm having a bad hair day (Just can't get > that mustache to look quite right). OK, enough. I'm done complaining for > real now, I feel much better. Thanks! > Nutty for now, and foggy as ever, > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Have you visited our new web site? > > Onelist: Helping to create Internet communities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 1999 Report Share Posted February 27, 1999 Are eithe of you on any type of Estrogen. When I was on ERT at 4pm everyday I had to have my chocolate fix...??? Cooky arjay wrote: > > From: arjay <arjay@...> > > > Wow I have days like that not as sore as you sound, but moody and I have > been craving chocolate like crazy. I generally like some occasionally, > but now I want it all the time. We went to Costco today and they were > giving samples of chocolate cookies I about cleaned them out. One diet > book I read said your body will crave what your allergic too because it > gives you a temperary high, like a drug addict. So far I haven't been > able to go off the chocolate long enough to see if it makes me feel > better. > > Hope you feel better soon. > > > > DMBGone@... wrote: > > > > From: DMBGone@... > > > > Hi all, here. Yes, I'm having a set back. I guess it's my " step back " . > > It's been so long since I've had one, that I need your guys help in telling me > > what to do! I'm sore, I'm VERY tired, and I just can't do anything, I have no > > gumption. I get lots of headaches, and want to eat all day long. Also, my > > mood swings are unreal. No, they're not. Yes, they are. See, there I go > > again. Ugh. I'm on 30 mg Prednisone, so my face is hairy, because that's > > what 30 mg does to me! It's never affected my moods before at this level, but > > maybe it is now. I have Chushings syndrome from the Prednisone (when you get, > > I'll call it " pleasantly plump " in certain spots) and it hurts, which it > > hardly ever has before. My skin hurts, and I WANT CHOCOLATE. OK, I feel > > better. Doesn't it just feel good to complain sometimes to people who > > understand? Thank you so much for reading this. I'll send my cyber-broom > > over to you to clean up the big dumb of complaining that I just laid on of > > you. Here it comes... SWEEP. OK, done, I feel better and I cleaned up my > > mess. Can you tell I'm an emotional wreck right now? My husband just doesn't > > know what to do with me. He gives me these sad puppy-eyed looks and just hugs > > me while I'm loosing my mind because the dog is looking at me ALL the time and > > the drain in the sink is dripping and that pencil just KEEPS rolling of the > > counter EVERY time I put it down and I'm having a bad hair day (Just can't get > > that mustache to look quite right). OK, enough. I'm done complaining for > > real now, I feel much better. Thanks! > > Nutty for now, and foggy as ever, > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Have you visited our new web site? > > > > Onelist: Helping to create Internet communities > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. > > Onelist: The leading provider of free email list services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 1999 Report Share Posted February 27, 1999 , that could very well be the case. Nowadays the fillers used in these drugs come from third world countries and are totally unregulated by the FDA. Minocin or the generic minocycline by Lederle avoids any problem. Here is an article we posted on our web page under Interesting Topics. Ethel Pharmaceutical Benefit Managers and Prescription Drugs In a newspaper article on Dec. 30, 1996 there was an article by Bob Herbert of the New York Times about the large and increasingly powerful companies that handle the purchase and distribution of prescription drugs for many HMOs and insurance companies. They are called pharmaceutical benefit managers, and their goal is to maximize profits by providing incentives to convince doctors and pharmacists to substitute a drug preferred by the benefit manager over the one prescribed by your doctor. Mark Green, a New York public advocate, conducted a six-month long investigation of the multi-billion dollar links between drug manufacturers, benefit managers and health insurance plans. He found that more and more, drugs received at the pharmacy by consumers " are increasingly not the ones initially prescribed or desired by their doctors. " The report states benefit managers are " signing contracts with manufacturers and are paid millions of dollars in rebates by them for promoting the sales of particular drugs. " Benefit managers and insurance companies " drastically narrow the range of drugs to be covered by a given plan, and then lean heavily on pharmacists and doctors to make sure the favored drugs within that drastically narrowed range are the ones most frequently prescribed. " When other drugs are prescribed, pharmacists are paid incentives for every prescription they manage to switch. If pharmacists do not do this often enough they risk being dropped from the plan. Doctors are given lists of drugs covered by a particular plan. HMOs instruct the doctor to prescribe the cheapest alternate instead of the most effective drug. You could end up taking a drug that is a so-called therapeutic alternative that really isn't, and that, in some cases could be life-threatening. For patients on antibiotic therapy for rheumatic disease it could mean the difference between success and failure. Love2Largo@... wrote: > > From: Love2Largo@... > > In a message dated 2/26/99 4:00:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, snooks@... > writes: > > << > , all generic minocycline is not made by Lederle. Check your > capsule and see what brand name is on there. It's my understanding > Lederle licenses Wyeth Ayerst and ESI to make the Lederle generic. > > I don't know if you were in the group when we discussed the problem of > ineffective generics, but since you are having a problem, you might want > to check the name of the manufacture on the capsules you are using. > > Ethel >> > Ethel, > My capsules say barr 933 on them. Does that mean they may not help? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > We are proud as punch of our new web site! > > Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 1999 Report Share Posted February 28, 1999 My naturopath told me we often crave chocolate when we need magnesium. rheumatic Re: Set-Back... >From: arjay <arjay@...> > > >Wow I have days like that not as sore as you sound, but moody and I have >been craving chocolate like crazy. I generally like some occasionally, >but now I want it all the time. We went to Costco today and they were >giving samples of chocolate cookies I about cleaned them out. One diet >book I read said your body will crave what your allergic too because it >gives you a temperary high, like a drug addict. So far I haven't been >able to go off the chocolate long enough to see if it makes me feel >better. > >Hope you feel better soon. > > > >DMBGone@... wrote: >> >> From: DMBGone@... >> >> Hi all, here. Yes, I'm having a set back. I guess it's my " step back " . >> It's been so long since I've had one, that I need your guys help in telling me >> what to do! I'm sore, I'm VERY tired, and I just can't do anything, I have no >> gumption. I get lots of headaches, and want to eat all day long. Also, my >> mood swings are unreal. No, they're not. Yes, they are. See, there I go >> again. Ugh. I'm on 30 mg Prednisone, so my face is hairy, because that's >> what 30 mg does to me! It's never affected my moods before at this level, but >> maybe it is now. I have Chushings syndrome from the Prednisone (when you get, >> I'll call it " pleasantly plump " in certain spots) and it hurts, which it >> hardly ever has before. My skin hurts, and I WANT CHOCOLATE. OK, I feel >> better. Doesn't it just feel good to complain sometimes to people who >> understand? Thank you so much for reading this. I'll send my cyber-broom >> over to you to clean up the big dumb of complaining that I just laid on of >> you. Here it comes... SWEEP. OK, done, I feel better and I cleaned up my >> mess. Can you tell I'm an emotional wreck right now? My husband just doesn't >> know what to do with me. He gives me these sad puppy-eyed looks and just hugs >> me while I'm loosing my mind because the dog is looking at me ALL the time and >> the drain in the sink is dripping and that pencil just KEEPS rolling of the >> counter EVERY time I put it down and I'm having a bad hair day (Just can't get >> that mustache to look quite right). OK, enough. I'm done complaining for >> real now, I feel much better. Thanks! >> Nutty for now, and foggy as ever, >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Have you visited our new web site? >> >> Onelist: Helping to create Internet communities > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. > >Onelist: The leading provider of free email list services > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 1999 Report Share Posted March 1, 1999 I hear we crave what we are allergic or sensitive to. Interesting huh. Donna I guess that makes me allergic to Folonari Valpolicella Classico rheumatic Re: Set-Back... > > >>From: arjay <arjay@...> >> >> >>Wow I have days like that not as sore as you sound, but moody and I have >>been craving chocolate like crazy. I generally like some occasionally, >>but now I want it all the time. We went to Costco today and they were >>giving samples of chocolate cookies I about cleaned them out. One diet >>book I read said your body will crave what your allergic too because it >>gives you a temperary high, like a drug addict. So far I haven't been >>able to go off the chocolate long enough to see if it makes me feel >>better. >> >>Hope you feel better soon. >> >> >> >>DMBGone@... wrote: >>> >>> From: DMBGone@... >>> >>> Hi all, here. Yes, I'm having a set back. I guess it's my " step >back " . >>> It's been so long since I've had one, that I need your guys help in >telling me >>> what to do! I'm sore, I'm VERY tired, and I just can't do anything, I >have no >>> gumption. I get lots of headaches, and want to eat all day long. Also, >my >>> mood swings are unreal. No, they're not. Yes, they are. See, there I >go >>> again. Ugh. I'm on 30 mg Prednisone, so my face is hairy, because >that's >>> what 30 mg does to me! It's never affected my moods before at this >level, but >>> maybe it is now. I have Chushings syndrome from the Prednisone (when you >get, >>> I'll call it " pleasantly plump " in certain spots) and it hurts, which it >>> hardly ever has before. My skin hurts, and I WANT CHOCOLATE. OK, I feel >>> better. Doesn't it just feel good to complain sometimes to people who >>> understand? Thank you so much for reading this. I'll send my >cyber-broom >>> over to you to clean up the big dumb of complaining that I just laid on >of >>> you. Here it comes... SWEEP. OK, done, I feel better and I cleaned up >my >>> mess. Can you tell I'm an emotional wreck right now? My husband just >doesn't >>> know what to do with me. He gives me these sad puppy-eyed looks and just >hugs >>> me while I'm loosing my mind because the dog is looking at me ALL the >time and >>> the drain in the sink is dripping and that pencil just KEEPS rolling of >the >>> counter EVERY time I put it down and I'm having a bad hair day (Just >can't get >>> that mustache to look quite right). OK, enough. I'm done complaining >for >>> real now, I feel much better. Thanks! >>> Nutty for now, and foggy as ever, >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Have you visited our new web site? >>> >>> Onelist: Helping to create Internet communities >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Start a new hobby. Meet a new friend. >> >>Onelist: The leading provider of free email list services >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Ideas on how we can improve ONElist? > >Check out the Suggestion Box feature on our new web site > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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