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does anyone here know excel enough to tell me how to unlock those

columns so I can add more ingredients? Those things are a great help

but I get to the end and have like 6 more ingredients to go.

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you'll need a password to unlock. Or you can cut and paste it into another

excel file. Then before you save this new worksheet, make sure to unlock

those cells first.

Anita W.

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> does anyone here know excel enough to tell me how to unlock those

> columns so I can add more ingredients? Those things are a great help

> but I get to the end and have like 6 more ingredients to go.

>

> Thanks

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> does anyone here know excel enough to tell me how to unlock those

> columns so I can add more ingredients? Those things are a great help

> but I get to the end and have like 6 more ingredients to go.

>

> Thanks

>

I have to ask this question....

Do we have the right to unlock the workbooks? I would think that the

ownership of this material would have passed to Maurice's wife and

children. I know with property ownership is passed " bylaw " when there is

no will in place...

What would be ideal is if Maurice shared his information with others.

I can unlock the original material BUT I need to know if we have a legal

right to do so. Unlocking the original material would be most ideal as

the formulas are hidden & locked and cannot be copied using a copy/paste

function to a new sheet.

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I downloaded the .xls file but cannot open it - does the locked columns

mean it can only be opened while signed on to the group? (Is this a D'uh

question?)

At 09:24 AM 8/2/2006, you wrote:

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> >

> > does anyone here know excel enough to tell me how to unlock those

> > columns so I can add more ingredients? Those things are a great help

> > but I get to the end and have like 6 more ingredients to go.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

>I have to ask this question....

>

>Do we have the right to unlock the workbooks? I would think that the

>ownership of this material would have passed to Maurice's wife and

>children. I know with property ownership is passed " bylaw " when there is

>no will in place...

>

>What would be ideal is if Maurice shared his information with others.

>

>I can unlock the original material BUT I need to know if we have a legal

>right to do so. Unlocking the original material would be most ideal as

>the formulas are hidden & locked and cannot be copied using a copy/paste

>function to a new sheet.

>

>

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> I downloaded the .xls file but cannot open it - does the locked

columns

> mean it can only be opened while signed on to the group? (Is this a

D'uh

> question?)

No, this is not a D'uh question. It depends on whether you are using a

compatible spreadsheet PROGRAM. I know that some EXCEL spreadsheets

will not work on non-excel spreadsheet programs.

The locked columns are simply a way for the owner to protect their

material from being copied very easily. It is also used to keep cells

that contain formulas from accidently being overwritten. I figure

Maurice was using passwords for both.

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as someone who works with copyrights, off the top of my head I can say

yes, we do have the right. It is a published work so it enjoys all the

copywrite protection of a book or movie or song. Changing it for

personal use is like editing out commercials from a movie you recorded.

It is published on this site free to download for group members as I

imagine the author intended.

Plus, in the Directions it says

" The workbook converter is limited to 17 ingredients. If your formula

contains more than 17 ingredients, let me kinow and I'll expand the

number of ingredients. "

so it's obvious Maurice would have changed it.

Btw, kathleen, thanks again for the help with excel. Always good to

learn new skills. Like trying to emulsify this dang leg cream I've

made 4 batches of!!! lol..........

> I have to ask this question....

>

> Do we have the right to unlock the workbooks? I would think that the

> ownership of this material would have passed to Maurice's wife and

> children. I know with property ownership is passed " bylaw " when there is

> no will in place...

>

> What would be ideal is if Maurice shared his information with others.

>

> I can unlock the original material BUT I need to know if we have a legal

> right to do so. Unlocking the original material would be most ideal as

> the formulas are hidden & locked and cannot be copied using a copy/paste

> function to a new sheet.

>

>

>

>

>

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I've had pretty good luck using open office

It's free and works pretty well with excel and Word documents.

http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.3/index.html

Click the green highlighed link, choose your operating system, and

download and donate if you can. IT's not essential. and it's free.

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> > I downloaded the .xls file but cannot open it - does the locked

> columns

> > mean it can only be opened while signed on to the group? (Is this a

> D'uh

> > question?)

>

> No, this is not a D'uh question. It depends on whether you are using a

> compatible spreadsheet PROGRAM. I know that some EXCEL spreadsheets

> will not work on non-excel spreadsheet programs.

>

> The locked columns are simply a way for the owner to protect their

> material from being copied very easily. It is also used to keep cells

> that contain formulas from accidently being overwritten. I figure

> Maurice was using passwords for both.

>

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> I have to ask this question....

>

> Do we have the right to unlock the workbooks? I would think that the

> ownership of this material would have passed to Maurice's wife and

> children. I know with property ownership is passed " bylaw " when

there is

> no will in place...

>

> What would be ideal is if Maurice shared his information with

others.

>

> I can unlock the original material BUT I need to know if we have a

legal

> right to do so. Unlocking the original material would be most ideal

as

> the formulas are hidden & locked and cannot be copied using a

copy/paste

> function to a new sheet.

>

Kathleen,

I think I can answer your question. In the early days of this list I

spent a lot of time visiting with Maurice at his lab. Originally he

gave me the converter to try out and then asked me to put it in the

files for our members use. His belief was that the converters were

free game from once uploaded to the list. I did see him get angry

when a member copied his idea for a hlb calculator and started

selling it, but he didn't take it any further than try to convince

her to give the calculator away free rather than selling it.

Hope this helps.

Pat. List owner.

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That's excatly right. You can't sell a copyrighted work. There are

portions of a copywrited work you an incorporate into a unique work

and there are guidelines in how much you can copy. One example would

be you could take the cacluation formula which is basic math, and

incorporate it into a work book using it for something other than

cosmetics or soaps and sell it as your own. And I'm not sure about

this but I don't think Maurice chould have patened it even if he

wanted to because though specific to the consmetic formulators

industry, it's a simple excel spread sheet.

My point in that is, you can still make your own calculator using the

simple same math (and changing the layout) and sell it as your own

because the " idea " that resulted in Maurices converters wasn't

patented and I don't think can be patented. I'd assume the entire

spread sheet must look much different (in relation to Excel's ablity

to do it) and also contain many more functions as a point of copyright

infringement debate.

In instrumental music, you can copy up to 7 bars which is how all

those bands in the 80's up to now got away with looping older songs or

having short vocal samples that play under a lot of rap songs.

So I think it's ok if we change it ourselves and after reading only a

little of Maurice did for this group,(I'm new but I've been trying to

read all the posts since it's inception) I know he would have wanted

us use the knowledge he offered freely to create and explore. He

didn't want someone to abuse it.

Mark

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> Kathleen,

>

> I think I can answer your question. In the early days of this list I

> spent a lot of time visiting with Maurice at his lab. Originally he

> gave me the converter to try out and then asked me to put it in the

> files for our members use. His belief was that the converters were

> free game from once uploaded to the list. I did see him get angry

> when a member copied his idea for a hlb calculator and started

> selling it, but he didn't take it any further than try to convince

> her to give the calculator away free rather than selling it.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Pat. List owner.

>

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> Kathleen,

>

> I think I can answer your question. In the early days of this list

I

> spent a lot of time visiting with Maurice at his lab. Originally

he

> gave me the converter to try out and then asked me to put it in

the

> files for our members use. His belief was that the converters were

> free game from once uploaded to the list. I did see him get angry

> when a member copied his idea for a hlb calculator and started

> selling it, but he didn't take it any further than try to convince

> her to give the calculator away free rather than selling it.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Pat. List owner.

>

Thank you Pat.

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