Re: Dr. Klinghardt

June 19, 2001

I think I understand the thinking behind Logan's Dr. now. She was

fighting me on using DMPS when I decided to use DMSA instead. She was

adement that DMPS wasn't harmful to children if used properly, and I

trust her, but I couldn't put Logan on an IV. It seemed cruel to put

him through that when DMSA could do the job, maybe a little slower,

that she said DMPS could do. She goes to a lot of Dr. Klinghardt's

speech's and I guess she feels the same way about DMPS that Dr.

Klinghardt does, but luckely I did my own research before hand and

knew what I thought would be best for Logan. Thanks for posting your

response Moria. Where can I go to read more about him?

>

> It is Klinghardt. Yes, he thinks he knows a lot about this stuff,

> and apparently he (and some people) think he is an expert.

> I would not trust him as far as I could throw him. I know I've

> read about him being a source of some of the " bad " protocols

> around, so I've been wary of him already.

>

> Then, just in the last couple of days, I was reading in the

> current DAMS newsletter (Dental Amalgam Merc Syndrome), and

> there is an article by him. Actually I've been meaning to write

> to the list about it. He talks about using DMPS INJECTIONS.

> I thought that was " dark ages " stuff?? Okay, well, I suppose

> I shouldn't think of it that way, but I have. I know of a

> local doc who uses it, and personally know someone who has

> has DMPS injection(s) --- but I still think of it as something

> out of the dusty past. So, here is Klinghardt talking about

> this --- like recommending it -- it is item #10 in his

> " detoxification protocol " . His protocol also includes chlorella,

> " garlic or MSM " , etc. (Interesting, he says that whey protein

> " can be used " however " Autistic children can't use this product

> as it contains casein. " )

>

> There is a portion of his article devoted to explaining how

> emotional traumas determine what area of the body metals are

> deposited in, and how to treat these emotional traumas as

> part of detox. He says, in part: " The symptom is that which

> is visible or apparent and usually the reason the patient

> comes to us. Underneath or within it, we find most often

> a chronic infection. Underneath the infection, we find the

> altered milieu -- mostly the presence of toxic metals.

> Underneath that, the reason why it is there (other than

> the obvious necessary exposure), the selection of location,

> the choice of metal -- are all guided by the subconcious

> mind and determined by the type, severity and date of

> unresolved psycho-emotional trauma or material. "

>

> I find the above to be in poor taste.

>

> By the way, I noticed in this issue of DAMS there were other

> references to DMPS injections and EDTA injections for merc

> detox. What the heck is going on here? Any thoughts?

> Again, this seems highly weird to me. There is also an

> article that begins " As a DAMS coordinator, I have encountered

> people who have stopped their mercury detoxification program

> because it can be such a painful experience. Mercury detoxification

> is often an extremely difficult and lengthy process. "

> Well, gee, I guess that would be consistent with the idea of

> using injections......

>

> I realize my experience with this stuff is limited, but I'm

> really grateful it is limited to Andy's methods rather than

> to DMPS injections. I think low dose / very slow makes a lot

> more sense.

>

> best,

> Moria

June 19, 2001

> I think I understand the thinking behind Logan's Dr. now. She was

> fighting me on using DMPS when I decided to use DMSA instead. She

was

> adement that DMPS wasn't harmful to children if used properly,

Any physician who has been injecting people with DMPS for a while and

thinks it doesn't hurt anyone is not qualified to practice medicine -

about 1 person in 6 has the kind of thing described at

www.dmpsbackfire.com happen to them.

Noticing what happens to your patients is necessary for a physician to

practice competently.

I can't criticize the clinical skills of physicians who inject DMPS

and acknowledge it is hazardous, but keep doing it because they don't

understand that other treatment options are available.

The claim that it is safe " if you do it right " doesn't stand up under

scrutiny. Too many doc's say that whose patients had problems the doc

won't acknowledge. And while I haven't heard of a patient of Dr.

Klinghardt himself who had such a problem, I also have not heard of

any patient of Dr. Klinghardt's who had DMPS safely - curiously, I

have run across none of his mercury patients. I HAVE, however, run

across people whose doc's treated them with frequent consultations to

Dr. Klinghardt, who did it exactly the way he describes (and checked

with him that they were) and whose patients then had adverse events of

the sort described at www.dmpsbackfire.com.

I think the problem with the DMPS protocol is the inappropriate

administration schedule, not the drug itself. I have taken it orally

and it is great stuff when used properly! Unfortunately it is

expensive and insurance never covers it.

The whole " DMPS shooting witch doctor " scene is one of the darkest

chapters in medical history, complete with a real disease the

mainstream denies out of arrogant prejudice, a harmful and

inapprorpiate treatment desparate patients go broke trying to afford,

and medical licensing board persecution of alternative practitioners

who tried to conduct a proper FDA supervised clinical trial to figure

out exactly what was going on with this therapy.

> and I trust her, but I couldn't put Logan on an IV.

Many physicians don't seem to appreciate how unpleasant needles are to

us laymen.

> It seemed cruel to put

> him through that when DMSA could do the job, maybe a little slower,

> that she said DMPS could do.

Actually the DMSA/ALA will do the job a lot faster.

> She goes to a lot of Dr. Klinghardt's

> speech's and I guess she feels the same way about DMPS that Dr.

> Klinghardt does, but luckely I did my own research before hand and

> knew what I thought would be best for Logan. Thanks for posting your

> response Moria. Where can I go to read more about him?

> >

> > It is Klinghardt. Yes, he thinks he knows a lot about this stuff,

> > and apparently he (and some people) think he is an expert.

> > I would not trust him as far as I could throw him. I know I've

> > read about him being a source of some of the " bad " protocols

> > around, so I've been wary of him already.

> >

> > Then, just in the last couple of days, I was reading in the

> > current DAMS newsletter (Dental Amalgam Merc Syndrome), and

> > there is an article by him. Actually I've been meaning to write

> > to the list about it. He talks about using DMPS INJECTIONS.

> > I thought that was " dark ages " stuff?? Okay, well, I suppose

> > I shouldn't think of it that way, but I have. I know of a

> > local doc who uses it, and personally know someone who has

> > has DMPS injection(s) --- but I still think of it as something

> > out of the dusty past. So, here is Klinghardt talking about

> > this --- like recommending it -- it is item #10 in his

> > " detoxification protocol " . His protocol also includes chlorella,

> > " garlic or MSM " , etc. (Interesting, he says that whey protein

> > " can be used " however " Autistic children can't use this product

> > as it contains casein. " )

> >

> > There is a portion of his article devoted to explaining how

> > emotional traumas determine what area of the body metals are

> > deposited in, and how to treat these emotional traumas as

> > part of detox. He says, in part: " The symptom is that which

> > is visible or apparent and usually the reason the patient

> > comes to us. Underneath or within it, we find most often

> > a chronic infection. Underneath the infection, we find the

> > altered milieu -- mostly the presence of toxic metals.

> > Underneath that, the reason why it is there (other than

> > the obvious necessary exposure), the selection of location,

> > the choice of metal -- are all guided by the subconcious

> > mind and determined by the type, severity and date of

> > unresolved psycho-emotional trauma or material. "

> >

> > I find the above to be in poor taste.

> >

> > By the way, I noticed in this issue of DAMS there were other

> > references to DMPS injections and EDTA injections for merc

> > detox. What the heck is going on here? Any thoughts?

> > Again, this seems highly weird to me. There is also an

> > article that begins " As a DAMS coordinator, I have encountered

> > people who have stopped their mercury detoxification program

> > because it can be such a painful experience. Mercury

detoxification

> > is often an extremely difficult and lengthy process. "

> > Well, gee, I guess that would be consistent with the idea of

> > using injections......

> >

> > I realize my experience with this stuff is limited, but I'm

> > really grateful it is limited to Andy's methods rather than

> > to DMPS injections. I think low dose / very slow makes a lot

> > more sens

June 20, 2001

At 04:30 PM 6/19/2001 -0000, you wrote:

> I think I understand the thinking behind Logan's Dr. now. She was

>fighting me on using DMPS when I decided to use DMSA instead. She was

>adement that DMPS wasn't harmful to children if used properly, and I

>trust her, but I couldn't put Logan on an IV. It seemed cruel to put

>him through that when DMSA could do the job, maybe a little slower,

>that she said DMPS could do. She goes to a lot of Dr. Klinghardt's

>speech's and I guess she feels the same way about DMPS that Dr.

>Klinghardt does, but luckely I did my own research before hand and

>knew what I thought would be best for Logan. Thanks for posting your

>response Moria. Where can I go to read more about him?

Hi Kaye,

To do a general web search, you can go to www.google.com or

www. and type in " Klinghardt " . Here are a couple of

references. Actually it looks like merc poisoning is more of

a " sideline " for him, with " neural therapy " being the main

thing....

Moria

Interview with Dr. Dietrich Klinghard

http://www.chris.at/Seiten_en/interview_Klinghardt.htm

article by Klinghardt on toxic metals:

http://www.explorepub.com/articles/klinghardt.html

short article " Reversing Pansy's Five Years of Epileptic Seizures "

Reversing Pansy's Five Years of Epileptic Seizures

Mercury Detoxification: Perpetuating Factors, Problems and Obstacles

by Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D., PhD

http://www.neuraltherapy.com/a_mercury_detox.asp

this looks like his actual website ?

http://www.neuraltherapy.com/

Mercola commentary on Klinghardt courses:

http://www.mercola.com/2000/may/7/klinghardt_courses.htm

April 22, 2008

I think he's got some good marketing behind him but one of my MS

clients who saw him was not impressed and saw no changes in his

condition. A lot of his stuff is simply old-fashioned and downright

dangerous.

The best thing he has to offer is neural therapy and I would certainly

do that. Often one injection can turn the entire immune system

around, get rid of allergies or get the thyroid working again. It's

one of the lesser known, good therapies and if he knows what he's

doing your son will only need one with possibly a follow up at some

future time (year maximum). The doc I used to work for did these with

absolutely amazing results. For children she would numb the area so

the child wouldn't feel the needle. One toddler who was allergic to

just about everything but 5 foods (one of which was white bread!) got

rid of them pretty much instantly.

Sharon Hoehner

www.sharethecause.com/detoxqueen

>

> I think I understand the thinking behind Logan's Dr. now. She was

> fighting me on using DMPS when I decided to use DMSA instead. She was

> adement that DMPS wasn't harmful to children if used properly, and I

> trust her, but I couldn't put Logan on an IV. It seemed cruel to put

> him through that when DMSA could do the job, maybe a little slower,

> that she said DMPS could do. She goes to a lot of Dr. Klinghardt's