Re: March - Check In?

[Guest guest]

I am finding out that not having the “daily grind†here on the farm is

making it real, real tough for me to lose the lard I am carrying around.

*sigh*.............I am not going to look anywhere near my “mediocreâ€, let

alone “best†for my first show on April 16th.

Oh, lucky you, Andy, for getting an email from the troll. Hope you sent him

back under the bridge where he belongs with his kind.

Z.

From: Andyman68

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:09 AM

To: bodyforlife

Subject: March - Check In?

Is anyone still out there? Just checking in. Oddly, the reason I thought of this

group is someone causing problems on here 10 years ago sent me an unwanted

e-mail.

I hope everyone is well. I had back surgery on Feb 16th and have been getting

back into more intense training the past week. Getting older is not fun!

Andy

[Guest guest]

Hi All!

I am doing my best, little by little.

I was on the road and found it very hard to keep up with any kind of workout

routine and eat right and I put on like 20 + lbs. Once I stopped traveling,

I found it hard to get back into my old routine. I don't hit the gym as hard

and as consistent as I used to but I do hit it. Since trying to find my

routine, I am down 17 lbs! Like says, " Progress, not perfection " . I

will not allow myself to continue with bad eating habits as that was the main

cause of my weight gain. Always be prepared to eat (right) I always say!

Thanks,

Frazier

________________________________

To: bodyforlife

Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 11:14:50 AM

Subject: Re: March - Check In?

I am finding out that not having the “daily grind†here on the farm is

making it

real, real tough for me to lose the lard I am carrying around.

*sigh*.............I am not going to look anywhere near my “mediocreâ€, let

alone

“best†for my first show on April 16th.

Oh, lucky you, Andy, for getting an email from the troll. Hope you sent him

back under the bridge where he belongs with his kind.

Z.

From: Andyman68

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:09 AM

To: bodyforlife

Subject: March - Check In?

Is anyone still out there? Just checking in. Oddly, the reason I thought of this

group is someone causing problems on here 10 years ago sent me an unwanted

e-mail.

I hope everyone is well. I had back surgery on Feb 16th and have been getting

back into more intense training the past week. Getting older is not fun!

Andy

[Guest guest]

Andy (and my fellow BFL'ers),

Hi there! Oddly enough, I was thinking of the many threads we had with our

troll(s) as I was reminiscing my BFL successes and not successes. An item that

rang true was how I was stagnated for such a long time, having only very little

progress to report. Anyhow, they were not good thoughts, so, I did get them out

of my head, quickly.

After so many successful years of holding solid and building muscle mass, I have

hit a series of backwards steps that has me very uncomfortable with my weight,

still, as I had reported months and months ago. I just can't get that good

nutrition and exercise switch flipped back on in my brain. And, as previously

reported, I don't know why or what happened.

I have a lot of hunches as to the cause, but, none of them make sense to me, so

as to let myself get that far off track, once again. Could it be...

...my move?

...over focusing on a legal issue (now dragging on for 3.5 years for NO

reason)

...disorganization?

...politics & the continual fracturing of our nation?

...world economic affairs?

...aging?

...physical injuries?

...recognition of mortality?

...depression?

...lack-a-nookie?

...financial stress?

...work concerns?

...business terminations?

...US currency worth less than Canadian?

...foreign wars?

...additional family deaths?

...technology concerns?

...terrorists?

...frustration with the job losses in America?

...excessive greed of high level executives?

...Forbes' record number of billionaires is reported (and I am not on it)

while the average Joe struggles to keep a job & feed their family?

...China's over-stocking of nuclear armament?

...non-existent alternative energy exploration?

...oil prices?

...transfer of economic wealth to unfriendly nations?

...no economic stimulus in the American horizon?

...finding only negative & depressing news?

...all the above?

...other issues not yet reported?

...other issues not yet uncovered?

...Or, did I just subconsciously decide to get unhealthily fat and lazy, once

again?

February 1, 2011 was my most current restart, but, I am not holding true to that

commitment, either. I have stopped the gains and have started on the road to

weight loss, but, not with the passion and dedication I know I have available

within me. In fact, I am still missing many of my resistance exercises, and my

cardio days are moderate at best, not really the HIIT.

In the last week or so, my wife decided she too wants to seek better nutrition,

so it will be a little bit easier to address the food intake side of the

equation. But, I need to kick myself a little harder to jump start the exercise

passion.

I am certainly not in the BFL Express lanes. ...Yet! However, I am happy to

report some progress since my decision to move forward on 2/1, so, as my motto

would suggest... Progress, not perfection!

As I get fired back up, I promise to post a whole lot more.

Make way for progress!

...Not perfection!

With love and a smile always,

Your friendly neighborhood BFL'er,

[Guest guest]

Andy, , , and anyone listening,

Has anyone moved in a better direction in the last 3 years?

After reading 's and 's replies, maybe there is something to be said

for identifying the " why " .

Why did we seem to all slow up?

Hmmm... Research required on this. Let me go try and figure it out while I

grab myself a brewski. ...Just kidding!

But, that is rather odd. 4 of the last 4 responses suggest a slacking in the

effort. Again... Why?

BFL-iosity?

PS: Progress will force those negative thoughts and images out of our heads.

[Guest guest]

(and everyone else reading.......).........the last year has been a very

difficult one for me, and SU too, truth be told. The stress we both were under

was phenomenal, and our personal relationship was in the crapper. We made the

decision to disperse the dairy herd and all associated livestock of the bovine

nature. From decision to auction was 3 weeks..........not a lot of time to plan

a sale, but it went off very well. Our cows brought really good money, as did

the young stock. Much more than what we had anticipated. Without dragging you

all into the dirty laundry basket, I will just say that things have improved

considerably on all fronts. BUT.............I can see that those wretched cows

were good for keeping me active............a lot more active than what I am now.

Due to not having the daily grind, I am finding it extremely difficult to shed

the excess poundage. I did NO workouts from June till Christmas. I could not

deal with it mentally. I was fried. Once I made the decision that “I am

going to start my workouts after Christmas†it was a no-brainer......I had

made the commitment and I started and I have kept on. I am eating clean, but

the lesser amount of activity on a day-to-day basis has proved to me that it

will be more difficult for me to do this. I am going to look less than stellar

at the first competition on April 16 (oh, who am I trying to kid...........I am

going to look like ****), but I am going to do it anyway. I am old now, I can

probably get away with it. (61) LOL But, we will have 4 shows total from

April 16th to May 21st...........by the last one I am going to look damn good.

Lot of good it will do me for the other 3, tho, will it??? I am doing my

workout, and 2-45 minute “cardio†sessions a day. I absolutely DISPISE

cardio, and the only way I can deal with it is taking a walk..........a LONG

walk...........down the road 1/4 mile, and making a circle around the 40 acre

field, and back home. There are 4 sets of up/down hills in that walk, and I am

trudging through some cornstalks too. Lift the feet or you’re gonna trip and

fall on your face. I stop at the spring about 1/3 of the way around and fill my

water bottle. I like the early morning sessions.....birds out, sun coming up,

and it smells so good out in the country. Soon I will be smelling the fresh

dirt when the guys go to the field. Not really spring yet, no fresh dirt smell.

Ok, probably waaaay TMI..........time for my 2nd session.............see ya.

Oh, we didn’t do any shows last fall...........I think we both needed the time

to regroup.

Z

From: gholowko@...

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:09 PM

To: bodyforlife

Subject: Re: March - Check In?

Andy, , , and anyone listening,

Has anyone moved in a better direction in the last 3 years?

After reading 's and 's replies, maybe there is something to be said

for identifying the " why " .

Why did we seem to all slow up?

Hmmm... Research required on this. Let me go try and figure it out while I grab

myself a brewski. ...Just kidding!

But, that is rather odd. 4 of the last 4 responses suggest a slacking in the

effort. Again... Why?

BFL-iosity?

PS: Progress will force those negative thoughts and images out of our heads.

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

 

I have been in a lurking mode, like everyone else it looks, and also, me like

most of you have cut back significantly on the workouts and the clean eating. No

real reason, except that it seems my feet are in constant pain when I run, or do

step aerobics, or any other impact cardios. So, I am resigning myself to walks,

but I don't want to give up running altogether, it is like surrendering to major

permanent slowdown...

 

I am glad to read 's post how you are getting back to your normal game, and

I am sure you will do well. I need any and all inspirational stories so that I

may muster whatever strength it will take to get back to my program and do well.

Thanks for sharing, and best wishes to all!

 

Marta

Subject: Re: March - Check In?

To: bodyforlife

Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 3:37 PM

 

(and everyone else reading.......).........the last year has been a very

difficult one for me, and SU too, truth be told. The stress we both were under

was phenomenal, and our personal relationship was in the crapper. We made the

decision to disperse the dairy herd and all associated livestock of the bovine

nature. From decision to auction was 3 weeks..........not a lot of time to plan

a sale, but it went off very well. Our cows brought really good money, as did

the young stock. Much more than what we had anticipated. Without dragging you

all into the dirty laundry basket, I will just say that things have improved

considerably on all fronts. BUT.............I can see that those wretched cows

were good for keeping me active............a lot more active than what I am now.

Due to not having the daily grind, I am finding it extremely difficult to shed

the excess poundage. I did NO workouts from June till Christmas. I could not

deal with it mentally.

I was fried. Once I made the decision that “I am going to start my workouts

after Christmas†it was a no-brainer......I had made the commitment and I

started and I have kept on. I am eating clean, but the lesser amount of activity

on a day-to-day basis has proved to me that it will be more difficult for me to

do this. I am going to look less than stellar at the first competition on April

16 (oh, who am I trying to kid...........I am going to look like ****), but I am

going to do it anyway. I am old now, I can probably get away with it. (61) LOL

But, we will have 4 shows total from April 16th to May 21st...........by the

last one I am going to look damn good. Lot of good it will do me for the other

3, tho, will it??? I am doing my workout, and 2-45 minute “cardio†sessions

a day. I absolutely DISPISE cardio, and the only way I can deal with it is

taking a walk..........a LONG walk...........down the road 1/4 mile, and making

a circle around the

40 acre field, and back home. There are 4 sets of up/down hills in that walk,

and I am trudging through some cornstalks too. Lift the feet or you’re gonna

trip and fall on your face. I stop at the spring about 1/3 of the way around and

fill my water bottle. I like the early morning sessions.....birds out, sun

coming up, and it smells so good out in the country. Soon I will be smelling the

fresh dirt when the guys go to the field. Not really spring yet, no fresh dirt

smell.

Ok, probably waaaay TMI..........time for my 2nd session.............see ya. Oh,

we didn’t do any shows last fall...........I think we both needed the time to

regroup.

Z

From: gholowko@...

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:09 PM

To: bodyforlife

Subject: Re: March - Check In?

Andy, , , and anyone listening,

Has anyone moved in a better direction in the last 3 years?

After reading 's and 's replies, maybe there is something to be said

for identifying the " why " .

Why did we seem to all slow up?

Hmmm... Research required on this. Let me go try and figure it out while I grab

myself a brewski. ...Just kidding!

But, that is rather odd. 4 of the last 4 responses suggest a slacking in the

effort. Again... Why?

BFL-iosity?

PS: Progress will force those negative thoughts and images out of our heads.

[Guest guest]

, When I read your post, it reminds me how long it took me to quit smoking

21 years ago, and how long it took me to get onto a regular exercise routine.

The key is to keep trying, even if we have setbacks, time and again. As long as

the tries outnumber the setbacks, we'll be in good shape. I am still trying on

the nutrition side, but there is success as long as we don't give up...

 

Best wishes to you, and to all:)

Marta

Subject: Re: March - Check In?

To: bodyforlife

Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 1:46 PM

 

Andy (and my fellow BFL'ers),

Hi there! Oddly enough, I was thinking of the many threads we had with our

troll(s) as I was reminiscing my BFL successes and not successes. An item that

rang true was how I was stagnated for such a long time, having only very little

progress to report. Anyhow, they were not good thoughts, so, I did get them out

of my head, quickly.

After so many successful years of holding solid and building muscle mass, I have

hit a series of backwards steps that has me very uncomfortable with my weight,

still, as I had reported months and months ago. I just can't get that good

nutrition and exercise switch flipped back on in my brain. And, as previously

reported, I don't know why or what happened.

I have a lot of hunches as to the cause, but, none of them make sense to me, so

as to let myself get that far off track, once again. Could it be...

....my move?

....over focusing on a legal issue (now dragging on for 3.5 years for NO reason)

....disorganization?

....politics & the continual fracturing of our nation?

....world economic affairs?

....aging?

....physical injuries?

....recognition of mortality?

....depression?

....lack-a-nookie?

....financial stress?

....work concerns?

....business terminations?

....US currency worth less than Canadian?

....foreign wars?

....additional family deaths?

....technology concerns?

....terrorists?

....frustration with the job losses in America?

....excessive greed of high level executives?

....Forbes' record number of billionaires is reported (and I am not on it) while

the average Joe struggles to keep a job & feed their family?

....China's over-stocking of nuclear armament?

....non-existent alternative energy exploration?

....oil prices?

....transfer of economic wealth to unfriendly nations?

....no economic stimulus in the American horizon?

....finding only negative & depressing news?

....all the above?

....other issues not yet reported?

....other issues not yet uncovered?

....Or, did I just subconsciously decide to get unhealthily fat and lazy, once

again?

February 1, 2011 was my most current restart, but, I am not holding true to that

commitment, either. I have stopped the gains and have started on the road to

weight loss, but, not with the passion and dedication I know I have available

within me. In fact, I am still missing many of my resistance exercises, and my

cardio days are moderate at best, not really the HIIT.

In the last week or so, my wife decided she too wants to seek better nutrition,

so it will be a little bit easier to address the food intake side of the

equation. But, I need to kick myself a little harder to jump start the exercise

passion.

I am certainly not in the BFL Express lanes. ...Yet! However, I am happy to

report some progress since my decision to move forward on 2/1, so, as my motto

would suggest... Progress, not perfection!

As I get fired back up, I promise to post a whole lot more.

Make way for progress!

....Not perfection!

With love and a smile always,

Your friendly neighborhood BFL'er,

[Guest guest]

, sounds you are doing great. Little by little you will get there!

Andy

>

> Hi All!

>

> I am doing my best, little by little.

>

> I was on the road and found it very hard to keep up with any kind of workout

> routine and eat right and I put on like 20 + lbs. Once I stopped

traveling,

> I found it hard to get back into my old routine. I don't hit the gym as hard

> and as consistent as I used to but I do hit it. Since trying to find my

> routine, I am down 17 lbs! Like says, " Progress, not perfection " . I

> will not allow myself to continue with bad eating habits as that was the main

> cause of my weight gain. Always be prepared to eat (right) I always say!

>

> Thanks,

> Frazier

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: bodyforlife

> Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 11:14:50 AM

> Subject: Re: March - Check In?

>

>

> I am finding out that not having the “daily grind†here on the farm is

making it

> real, real tough for me to lose the lard I am carrying around.

> *sigh*.............I am not going to look anywhere near my “mediocreâ€, let

alone

> “best†for my first show on April 16th.

>

> Oh, lucky you, Andy, for getting an email from the troll. Hope you sent him

> back under the bridge where he belongs with his kind.

>

>

> Z.

>

> From: Andyman68

> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:09 AM

> To: bodyforlife

> Subject: March - Check In?

>

> Is anyone still out there? Just checking in. Oddly, the reason I thought of

this

> group is someone causing problems on here 10 years ago sent me an unwanted

> e-mail.

>

> I hope everyone is well. I had back surgery on Feb 16th and have been getting

> back into more intense training the past week. Getting older is not fun!

>

> Andy

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

It sounds like to me you might need some group or individual support. It is

good that you are getting fired back up. I am not sure what to tell you though.

As they say on the Biggest Loser, I think you have some issues to work through

and I don't mean that in a bad way. I hope that you and your wife and support

each other and you can move forward!

Andy

>

> Andy (and my fellow BFL'ers),

>

> Hi there! Oddly enough, I was thinking of the many threads we had with our

troll(s) as I was reminiscing my BFL successes and not successes. An item that

rang true was how I was stagnated for such a long time, having only very little

progress to report. Anyhow, they were not good thoughts, so, I did get them out

of my head, quickly.

>

> After so many successful years of holding solid and building muscle mass, I

have hit a series of backwards steps that has me very uncomfortable with my

weight, still, as I had reported months and months ago. I just can't get that

good nutrition and exercise switch flipped back on in my brain. And, as

previously reported, I don't know why or what happened.

>

> I have a lot of hunches as to the cause, but, none of them make sense to me,

so as to let myself get that far off track, once again. Could it be...

>

> ...my move?

> ...over focusing on a legal issue (now dragging on for 3.5 years for NO

reason)

> ...disorganization?

> ...politics & the continual fracturing of our nation?

> ...world economic affairs?

> ...aging?

> ...physical injuries?

> ...recognition of mortality?

> ...depression?

> ...lack-a-nookie?

> ...financial stress?

> ...work concerns?

> ...business terminations?

> ...US currency worth less than Canadian?

> ...foreign wars?

> ...additional family deaths?

> ...technology concerns?

> ...terrorists?

> ...frustration with the job losses in America?

> ...excessive greed of high level executives?

> ...Forbes' record number of billionaires is reported (and I am not on it)

while the average Joe struggles to keep a job & feed their family?

> ...China's over-stocking of nuclear armament?

> ...non-existent alternative energy exploration?

> ...oil prices?

> ...transfer of economic wealth to unfriendly nations?

> ...no economic stimulus in the American horizon?

> ...finding only negative & depressing news?

> ...all the above?

> ...other issues not yet reported?

> ...other issues not yet uncovered?

>

> ...Or, did I just subconsciously decide to get unhealthily fat and lazy,

once again?

>

>

> February 1, 2011 was my most current restart, but, I am not holding true to

that commitment, either. I have stopped the gains and have started on the road

to weight loss, but, not with the passion and dedication I know I have available

within me. In fact, I am still missing many of my resistance exercises, and my

cardio days are moderate at best, not really the HIIT.

>

> In the last week or so, my wife decided she too wants to seek better

nutrition, so it will be a little bit easier to address the food intake side of

the equation. But, I need to kick myself a little harder to jump start the

exercise passion.

>

> I am certainly not in the BFL Express lanes. ...Yet! However, I am happy to

report some progress since my decision to move forward on 2/1, so, as my motto

would suggest... Progress, not perfection!

>

> As I get fired back up, I promise to post a whole lot more.

>

> Make way for progress!

>

> ...Not perfection!

>

> With love and a smile always,

> Your friendly neighborhood BFL'er,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marta, do you have plantar facitis? Seem like we all definitely have our

challenges here.

Andy

>

> Hi All,

>  

> I have been in a lurking mode, like everyone else it looks, and also, me like

most of you have cut back significantly on the workouts and the clean eating. No

real reason, except that it seems my feet are in constant pain when I run, or do

step aerobics, or any other impact cardios. So, I am resigning myself to walks,

but I don't want to give up running altogether, it is like surrendering to major

permanent slowdown...

>  

> I am glad to read 's post how you are getting back to your normal game,

and I am sure you will do well. I need any and all inspirational stories so that

I may muster whatever strength it will take to get back to my program and do

well. Thanks for sharing, and best wishes to all!

>  

> Marta

[Guest guest]

Thanks Andy. One of the problem I was having while I was traveling was mental.

I was in denial of my weight gain. Once I went up in pant size, it was my

finally owning up to the fact I actually gained weight. Due to the fact I know

what to do to lose the weight, I would always say, " I will lose it later " . At

the rate I was going, later was never going to come. What really motivated me

was seeing what I had become in my full-body mirror after showering. Knowing

what I used to look like and seeing how I was looking made me disgusted with

myself. Not being confident enough to walk around nude while being intimate was

another thing that made me say enough is enough. Yeah, I know. TMI but it

worked for me.

Like I said, a little bit at a time. Hour by hour. Day by day. Week by week.

Month by month. Progress is occurring and it is that progress that is

continuing to motivate me. I have a ton of goals and they are all little ones.

It works for me and I hope this can work for others as well.

Thanks,

Frazier

________________________________

To: bodyforlife

Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 8:57:53 AM

Subject: Re: March - Check In?

, sounds you are doing great. Little by little you will get there!

Andy

>

> Hi All!

>

> I am doing my best, little by little.

>

> I was on the road and found it very hard to keep up with any kind of workout

> routine and eat right and I put on like 20 + lbs. Once I stopped

>traveling,

>

> I found it hard to get back into my old routine. I don't hit the gym as hard

> and as consistent as I used to but I do hit it. Since trying to find my

> routine, I am down 17 lbs! Like says, " Progress, not perfection " . I

> will not allow myself to continue with bad eating habits as that was the main

> cause of my weight gain. Always be prepared to eat (right) I always say!

>

> Thanks,

> Frazier

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: bodyforlife

> Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 11:14:50 AM

> Subject: Re: March - Check In?

>

>

> I am finding out that not having the “daily grind†here on the farm is

making

>it

>

> real, real tough for me to lose the lard I am carrying around.

> *sigh*.............I am not going to look anywhere near my “mediocreâ€, let

>alone

>

> “best†for my first show on April 16th.

>

> Oh, lucky you, Andy, for getting an email from the troll. Hope you sent him

> back under the bridge where he belongs with his kind.

>

>

> Z.

>

> From: Andyman68

> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:09 AM

> To: bodyforlife

> Subject: March - Check In?

>

> Is anyone still out there? Just checking in. Oddly, the reason I thought of

>this

>

> group is someone causing problems on here 10 years ago sent me an unwanted

> e-mail.

>

> I hope everyone is well. I had back surgery on Feb 16th and have been getting

> back into more intense training the past week. Getting older is not fun!

>

> Andy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Andy, Thanks for the note. It is possible that I  do have planter facitis, but

I used to have the pain in the heels then I got new shoes which allowed me to

have my heels off the ground, kind of a boat shaped shoe soles. That did help to

get rid of the pain in the heels, but now the pain transferred to the ball of my

foot/feet. I change shoes to alternate the pressure points, and that helps some

but it is still not how it should be.

 

On the other hand I see your progress/recovery from your surgery on FB, and you

are a true inspiration:)!!! Thanks for your continued interest and support for

all your fellow BFL-ers:)!!!

Thank you!

 

Marta

Subject: Re: March - Check In?

To: bodyforlife

Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 8:05 AM

 

Marta, do you have plantar facitis? Seem like we all definitely have our

challenges here.

Andy

>

> Hi All,

>  

> I have been in a lurking mode, like everyone else it looks, and also, me like

most of you have cut back significantly on the workouts and the clean eating. No

real reason, except that it seems my feet are in constant pain when I run, or do

step aerobics, or any other impact cardios. So, I am resigning myself to walks,

but I don't want to give up running altogether, it is like surrendering to major

permanent slowdown...

>  

> I am glad to read 's post how you are getting back to your normal game,

and I am sure you will do well. I need any and all inspirational stories so that

I may muster whatever strength it will take to get back to my program and do

well. Thanks for sharing, and best wishes to all!

>  

> Marta

[Guest guest]

Oh, My, .......how frisky you’ve gotten lately................

SU=Spousal Unit

Not much of the other going on in my life..............ok, TMI..............

From: gholowko@...

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 10:59 AM

To: bodyforlife

Subject: Re: Re: March - Check In?

,

No, no... I was not ignoring you. I was just trying to come up with the right

reply that would NOT make me sound like a complete and total perv. For me, when

it comes to you, that sometimes takes a while.

By the way, spouses and partners are often call significant others, or

sometimes, SO. I think I asked you about that, before, but, I don't recall... Do

you use SU as...

Spousal Uber'man

Substantial Unit

Sexual Union

Spousal Unit,

Or...

Significant " Udder " , which provides respect for both your dairy background and

his manly thing-a-ma-jig?

How's that for a quick response, my dear?

BTW, I did respond earlier, but, I guess it didn't make it to you before you

decided to harass me.

Progress, my sweets...

[Guest guest]

,

Frisky??? I take incredible care side stepping any booby-traps, with my

wording, and you call me Frisky?

TMI??? ...Oh, too much information. Coming from PA, I thought, maybe, you were

referencing Three Mile Island and suggesting to us all that your " frisky " life

has gone nuclear!

Is that better for the responses? Haven't you missed me?

Guess who!

Me! That's who!

[Guest guest]

Well, ya, but I can’t say that I have been the conscientious poster either.

Because I have not been on top of my game and just kinda slinking around corners

and hiding behind doors (if I can find one big enough to hide

behind............LOLOL)

A.

From: gholowko@...

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 1:23 PM

To: bodyforlife

Subject: Re: Re: March - Check In?

,

Frisky??? I take incredible care side stepping any booby-traps, with my wording,

and you call me Frisky?

TMI??? ...Oh, too much information. Coming from PA, I thought, maybe, you were

referencing Three Mile Island and suggesting to us all that your " frisky " life

has gone nuclear!

Is that better for the responses? Haven't you missed me?

Guess who!

Me! That's who!

[Guest guest]

I have a question..............and , this is asked in all sincerity and no

joking............but (deep breath on MY part)...........it sounds like you

either did not want to or maybe didn’t know “how†to grieve at your

father’s and daughter’s passing...........and that these *sort-out* tasks

are SO overwhelming because of that. Of course, I have no degree or education

in what goes on in the mind (if I did I would sort out what the hell is making

my #1 son do what he is at the present time..............another story) so this

is pure speculation on my part. Maybe this is just all catching up with you

now, and you are at least able to think about the “why†you are having

difficulty.

Z

From: gholowko@...

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:29 AM

To: bodyforlife

Cc: Sharing-Diet-Info

Subject: Re: March - Check In?

Andy (and any psych majors in the group),

This note requires a double-latte and, if you have such a vice, take a nice dark

6 " x60 ring stogie out on your deck with you, while you ponder this further, with

me.

I have been thinking about your thinking which was about my thinking of that

deep thinking question... What triggers the change away from BFL. Wow! FOUR

levels deep! This might be like that movie, Inception, but with thinking,

instead of dreaming. Maybe I am so far stuck down deep in this thinking that I

need a Leonardo DiCaprio kind of character to find me in my fitness thinking and

bring me back to reality. ...You will have to see the movie and understand the

movie line to figure out that comment.

I kinda, sorta, discounted the idea that it was a novelty issue, as I move from

one novelty idea to another faster than the normal person will move his hand off

of a hot frying pan. I was solidly performing BFL for years, knowingly,

occasionally, overeating or enjoying my libations, so, I was quite sure it was

not the focus of a novelty. Also, if it were novelty, I would have been all over

Bill ' newest Transformation program, but, I was not able to gain any

traction with that, either.

I also thought deeper about your thoughts on how we respond to different

tragedies in life. When I sensed the fall-off in the latter part of 2007, it was

after my dad passed away. But, in early 2006, my mom passed away, and I stayed

focused on BFL. And, in 2004, as you may recall, I lost my youngest daughter to

leukemia, yet reached for my BFL exercises even more so, to allow me time to

think, pray, reflect and ease that pain. So, I am feeling there are other deeper

factors involved, here.

One of Bill's tenets is that if you can change the persons behavior for 4 weeks,

you can successfully change their pattern of actions, permanently. Of course, he

caveats that by suggesting we have to also prepare ourselves for life's

adversities, too. And, now, with that background, I am on this new tangent of

thinking on " why the fall-off.

I am uncomfortable making these following suggestions, as I fear I am sounding

like the psychiatrists and sociologists that blame evil behaviors and actions on

the perpetrator's childhood, but... I am thinking there are behaviors we learn

very early in life that can trump the learned pattern of actions. Was I looking

to revert back to being that chubby child, as that who I am, deeper down inside?

Was I looking to comfort foods the way I did as a child? Is there a prime

behavior that I (and possibly others) have, that drives me to eat now, having

subconscious thoughts that some type of famine is coming? What is the source of

my need for oral satisfaction??? ...I just don't know???

Another viewpoint on my slackening off on my BFL efforts may have been my change

of residences. Also in late 2007, we settled on a new home that has a huge

basement. I moved my fitness equipment to the far side of my new basement. The

new area has windows for natural sunlight, added lighting for reading while on

my exer-cycle, and is fully matted to be able to drop weights without cracking

concrete or damaging the weights. It makes for a really nice in-home gym. To

make the move caused a few days of downtime, but, just making the move, myself,

was plenty of exercise for those days.

As it happened, we did not yet have a buyer for our old home and we were able to

move stuff in slowly, eventually building LOTS of clutter in my new basement. I

think we should have just put it all in a dumpster, but, there are some

important keepsakes and documents amongst the boxes that need to be sorted out.

While I was preparing the new home, my four boys were all packing up the old

house with their mother (my better half), not really thinking or caring about

the task of unpacking on the other end. This has led to literally hundreds of

boxes that lined the basement, creating rows of " stuff " that needs to be

reviewed.

We have been in this new house for nearly 4 years and those boxes still haunt

me. Any short term things we had needed, we bought, as it was easier than trying

to find it amongst the hundreds of unlabeled, piled boxes, so it is only the

keepsakes and important documents that we really need to extract, but, every

time I see those boxes, I get depressed and anxious about the whole task still

facing me. I would need weeks and weeks of dedicated time to sort out the stuff.

Plus, I would want to finish setting up a secondary office area down there, so

that we only had to sift through it all, one time. So I use that as an excuse to

procrastinate getting it done.

To get to my fitness area, I must walk through one of the two aisles cut out of

the hundreds of boxes. Further, while on my smith machine / half cage and

exer-cycle, I face into that pile of " stuff " and get further depressed about

having to sort through it all. My children don't care about it, my better half

feels I should do it, and, yet, I likely do NOT want to do it alone, as there

are many memories of my daughter and parents lives that are hiding in those

boxes, and I may fear the pain of the decision to trash those items, since I

know I can not store everything. Aaarrrrrgggghhhh!!!

While all this background action is taking place, of course I have the normal

stress of life entering the picture, too. The tension with 3 younger boys still

under our roof, their learning to drive, needs for a car, sports & baseball

games, education, college selection, college tuition, my sibling's lawsuit,

economic stresses, the depressing international environment, our failed

leadership, and that whole array of other external things I mentioned in a prior

email.

So... Am I making up excuses for not working out? Am I experiencing the losses

of my loved ones now and allowing that to distract me? Am I just afraid of

attacking clutter? Am I just lazy and tired? Am I missing something else? Or, is

there a genuine trigger in my brain that needs to be somehow switched back to

" ON " ? Would I be safer in a padded cell?

My specific circumstances might be unique, but, I am certain there is that

mental comfort need of others, too, that somehow blots out any newly created

good habits and allows some bad behaviors to enter the picture, once again.

So... What is broken??? Is anyone able to answer this? Anyone? Bueller?

Bueller???

Psychologically BFL'ing,

Remember: Progress, NOT perfection!

[Guest guest]

,

We've all neglected postings, recently, and, maybe that is part of my fix. When

I posted helpful advice, I held myself to a different standard. I wanted to

speak from first hand experience or digested knowledge, and not from only what I

might think makes sense (but is not satisfactorily substantiated).

And, by the way, I don't know of anyone that can hide behind doors when they are

standing at the long end. You are a person in super-shape and you should have

all the confidence in the world as to your appearance and abilities. As I once

read, I'll offer you the same advice for you to always remember...

Confidence is Sexy!

As for me, I'll have to remember...

Progress, NOT perfection!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Yep, I agree with you about all the nasty stuff in the world being

initially started by someone but at least it wasn't you, so don't take on his

burden!! When I said, " let it go " , I wasn't being trite because in no way do

I think the words, " Don't worry " , mean the same as " don't care " . It's just

that it's easy to feel so utterly helpless and hopeless by what goes on in

the news sometimes, at home and away, that it can be somewhat paralyzing.

I'm a bit of news junkie and a highly trained worrier! I've been

practicing for a very long time!! I felt I needed a break from all the buzz in

my

head so I decided to change up my thinking. I decided to act more as if I

was on vacation because I realized that when I am, nothing matters to me

other than the enjoyment in that time. I don't watch TV, check online, read

papers, nothing. Right them, absolutely anything could be happening in

the world and I wouldn't have the first clue about it - and yet, dare I say

it, the world would still be turning, and the crap would still fall be

falling and the ignorance of it is would be, and is, sheer bliss!!

Thank you for the kind words you said about my recent struggles. I

appreciate them.

Ha ha , I love that you are reserving the right to enjoy Perfection

in the next life!!

.

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Andy, Yes that was the troll. He sounds more like a stalker now! Poor

you...

You do good work here Andy and you never give up. I really admire that.

All the best, .

In a message dated 4/3/2011 4:48:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

andyman68@... writes:

, yes I remember you. The " troll " that I am referring to may be the

one from back in 1999. It sure sounds like him. His name was Andy

D(o)erksen and I know on 9/11/01, he said some things that were pretty

upsetting

to the group. The moderators kicked him off and he begged to come back but

the members at that time " voted " against him. I don't understand how I am

on his spam list 10 years later!

That is too funny about the slippers! Glad you checked in with us!

Andy

[Guest guest]

Hi , I'm deeply sorry for your losses. It's amazing that you could

stay committed to anything after such personal tragedy. God bless you.

Now back to the couch you go and lie still while I talk to you!

I think that maybe wanting to be a chubby child again could be on target.

Were you looked after and loved when you were? Obviously you had both

your parents then so maybe there is a deep connection.

This is my experience. When I was a kid, I lived in an orphanage and the

staff used to eat different food from us kids. Sometimes, as a punishment

we would be sent to the staff food pantry - not because of the hidden

delights there but because it was attached to the staff kitchen and so we could

be easily monitored from there. In the pantry was a bowl of white sugar,

perfect and pure and beckoning, that the staff used to sweeten their tea.

If you were brave, quick, in fact extraordinarily brave AND prepared to take

the consequences of being caught, you could take a spoonful of that sugar

and let it sit in your mouth in a delight impossible to describe. It

crunched on your teeth and melted on your tongue as not only a wondrous

experience of taste, but as a glorious confirmation of the courage required to

take

that illicit treat in secret!

Today, I couldn't eat a spoonful of sugar (tra la la) if I tried and

neither do I want to. But would I take a hammer to a hard candy to break it

into smaller pieces so that I can indulge in a sweet taste two days after

having part of my jaw transplanted into my upper gum? Oh yes I did....and I

think the two experiences just might be connected, don't you? )

Switching gears...you say every time you see all those boxes you get

anxious and depressed. I would too. (Why would I feel good about having to

walk through a huge reminder of something I need to do to get to something

else I need to do...like working out?) And , you need to do your boxes.

The memories you have of your parents and your daughter might not be

shared and experienced by your family in the same way as they would be by you,

so you can do it alone...and it'll be OK. Dump the trash and keep your

treasure. One box at a time, you could face the loving or lost or lonely

feelings and memories you surely experience when you see those boxes, and you

could set yourself free. And remember, laughter and joy and great personal

memories are buried in the boxes too but you can't feel free to

re-experience them while they stay buried in a job you don't want to do.... and

don't

forget, it'll be OK.

I had to do this too buddy - I lost my husband and the experience itself

and then of sorting his stuff was massively painful. But I had to do it and

I cried a lot and smiled some of the time too. Now I have some of his

things and I rarely look at them but they in a special place and I can if I

want to any time.

I don't think you have anything that is broken ...I think you have

what is called " living life " - with all that that entails.

Up off the couch now ...go work on that one thing on your list...you know

what I mean!!

all the best,

.

[Guest guest]

Too funny. Before I even read it, I was thinking Inception too! I bet Jillian

s could figure out your oral fixation with food. If nothing else, she

would beat it out of you!

Now moving and the boxes I can relate. I do think clutter can wear you down.

We did the same thing when we moved in 2009. I hauled a lot of it out last year

for a garage sale. I even set many boxes out and made the stuff free. Nothing

came back into the house and the rest was given to a charity garage sale. Only

a couple months ago did I sort of organize the rest of the stuff in the

basement. We have someone that asked if they could store more stuff so I kind

of organized that stuff without going through it. Eventually, that stuff will

go because it isn't being used. In our case though these boxes were hidden in

another part of the basement than the exercise equipment.

Also, I have a list of stuff that I have needed to do since we moved and it

isn't getting done very quickly. I am kind of learning to not care too much but

it is hard. I guess for me my workouts take a higher priority and I kind of let

that other stuff slide.

I do think your 100s of boxes may be holding you back. If you haven't used the

stuff for this long, it may not be worth going through it. It may be time to

just pack it up and haul it to charity. It is tough, but you won't miss it and

it will be freeing. I would have already hauled it off but my other half is

resistant and doesn't seem to care as much as I do about the clutter. He's the

type of person if he removes an article of clothing, it stays in that room

rather than being put where it belongs. Also keeps every piece of paper too!

Andy

>

> Andy (and any psych majors in the group),

>

> This note requires a double-latte and, if you have such a vice, take a nice

dark 6 " x60 ring stogie out on your deck with you, while you ponder this further,

with me.

>

> I have been thinking about your thinking which was about my thinking of that

deep thinking question... What triggers the change away from BFL. Wow! FOUR

levels deep! This might be like that movie, Inception, but with thinking,

instead of dreaming. Maybe I am so far stuck down deep in this thinking that I

need a Leonardo DiCaprio kind of character to find me in my fitness thinking and

bring me back to reality. ...You will have to see the movie and understand the

movie line to figure out that comment.

>

> I kinda, sorta, discounted the idea that it was a novelty issue, as I move

from one novelty idea to another faster than the normal person will move his

hand off of a hot frying pan. I was solidly performing BFL for years,

knowingly, occasionally, overeating or enjoying my libations, so, I was quite

sure it was not the focus of a novelty. Also, if it were novelty, I would have

been all over Bill ' newest Transformation program, but, I was not able

to gain any traction with that, either.

>

> I also thought deeper about your thoughts on how we respond to different

tragedies in life. When I sensed the fall-off in the latter part of 2007, it

was after my dad passed away. But, in early 2006, my mom passed away, and I

stayed focused on BFL. And, in 2004, as you may recall, I lost my youngest

daughter to leukemia, yet reached for my BFL exercises even more so, to allow me

time to think, pray, reflect and ease that pain. So, I am feeling there are

other deeper factors involved, here.

>

> One of Bill's tenets is that if you can change the persons behavior for 4

weeks, you can successfully change their pattern of actions, permanently. Of

course, he caveats that by suggesting we have to also prepare ourselves for

life's adversities, too. And, now, with that background, I am on this new

tangent of thinking on " why the fall-off.

>

> I am uncomfortable making these following suggestions, as I fear I am sounding

like the psychiatrists and sociologists that blame evil behaviors and actions on

the perpetrator's childhood, but... I am thinking there are behaviors we learn

very early in life that can trump the learned pattern of actions. Was I looking

to revert back to being that chubby child, as that who I am, deeper down inside?

Was I looking to comfort foods the way I did as a child? Is there a prime

behavior that I (and possibly others) have, that drives me to eat now, having

subconscious thoughts that some type of famine is coming? What is the source of

my need for oral satisfaction??? ...I just don't know???

>

> Another viewpoint on my slackening off on my BFL efforts may have been my

change of residences. Also in late 2007, we settled on a new home that has a

huge basement. I moved my fitness equipment to the far side of my new basement.

The new area has windows for natural sunlight, added lighting for reading while

on my exer-cycle, and is fully matted to be able to drop weights without

cracking concrete or damaging the weights. It makes for a really nice in-home

gym. To make the move caused a few days of downtime, but, just making the move,

myself, was plenty of exercise for those days.

>

> As it happened, we did not yet have a buyer for our old home and we were able

to move stuff in slowly, eventually building LOTS of clutter in my new basement.

I think we should have just put it all in a dumpster, but, there are some

important keepsakes and documents amongst the boxes that need to be sorted out.

While I was preparing the new home, my four boys were all packing up the old

house with their mother (my better half), not really thinking or caring about

the task of unpacking on the other end. This has led to literally hundreds of

boxes that lined the basement, creating rows of " stuff " that needs to be

reviewed.

>

> We have been in this new house for nearly 4 years and those boxes still haunt

me. Any short term things we had needed, we bought, as it was easier than

trying to find it amongst the hundreds of unlabeled, piled boxes, so it is only

the keepsakes and important documents that we really need to extract, but, every

time I see those boxes, I get depressed and anxious about the whole task still

facing me. I would need weeks and weeks of dedicated time to sort out the

stuff. Plus, I would want to finish setting up a secondary office area down

there, so that we only had to sift through it all, one time. So I use that as

an excuse to procrastinate getting it done.

>

> To get to my fitness area, I must walk through one of the two aisles cut out

of the hundreds of boxes. Further, while on my smith machine / half cage and

exer-cycle, I face into that pile of " stuff " and get further depressed about

having to sort through it all. My children don't care about it, my better half

feels I should do it, and, yet, I likely do NOT want to do it alone, as there

are many memories of my daughter and parents lives that are hiding in those

boxes, and I may fear the pain of the decision to trash those items, since I

know I can not store everything. Aaarrrrrgggghhhh!!!

>

> While all this background action is taking place, of course I have the normal

stress of life entering the picture, too. The tension with 3 younger boys still

under our roof, their learning to drive, needs for a car, sports & baseball

games, education, college selection, college tuition, my sibling's lawsuit,

economic stresses, the depressing international environment, our failed

leadership, and that whole array of other external things I mentioned in a prior

email.

>

> So... Am I making up excuses for not working out? Am I experiencing the

losses of my loved ones now and allowing that to distract me? Am I just afraid

of attacking clutter? Am I just lazy and tired? Am I missing something else?

Or, is there a genuine trigger in my brain that needs to be somehow switched

back to " ON " ? Would I be safer in a padded cell?

>

> My specific circumstances might be unique, but, I am certain there is that

mental comfort need of others, too, that somehow blots out any newly created

good habits and allows some bad behaviors to enter the picture, once again.

>

> So... What is broken??? Is anyone able to answer this? Anyone? Bueller?

Bueller???

>

> Psychologically BFL'ing,

>

>

> Remember: Progress, NOT perfection!

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I know I will not be anywhere close to optimum for this Sat. But, I’m

eating my fishies like a good girl, eating my spinach, and drinking my 2 gal. of

water a day till Wed. Then “only†a gallon and a half on Thursday, then none

till after the show. Well, a swig now and then. But, listen

carefully................the sound you hear is me sloshing with all that water

in me. I figured that in order to get my 2 gallons a day, I need to drink an 8

oz. glass every half hour I’m awake. It seems pretty do-able, and I don’t

think I missed it much yesterday. Slosh, slosh.........

Z.

From: gholowko@...

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:11 PM

To: bodyforlife

Subject: Re: Re: March - Check In?

,

We've all neglected postings, recently, and, maybe that is part of my fix. When

I posted helpful advice, I held myself to a different standard. I wanted to

speak from first hand experience or digested knowledge, and not from only what I

might think makes sense (but is not satisfactorily substantiated).

And, by the way, I don't know of anyone that can hide behind doors when they are

standing at the long end. You are a person in super-shape and you should have

all the confidence in the world as to your appearance and abilities. As I once

read, I'll offer you the same advice for you to always remember...

Confidence is Sexy!

As for me, I'll have to remember...

Progress, NOT perfection!

[Guest guest]

Happy sloshing and let us know how it goes on Saturday!

Andy

>

> Well, I know I will not be anywhere close to optimum for this Sat. But, I’m

eating my fishies like a good girl, eating my spinach, and drinking my 2 gal. of

water a day till Wed. Then “only†a gallon and a half on Thursday, then none

till after the show. Well, a swig now and then. But, listen

carefully................the sound you hear is me sloshing with all that water

in me. I figured that in order to get my 2 gallons a day, I need to drink an 8

oz. glass every half hour I’m awake. It seems pretty do-able, and I don’t

think I missed it much yesterday. Slosh, slosh.........

>

> Z.

>

> From: gholowko@...

> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:11 PM

> To: bodyforlife

> Subject: Re: Re: March - Check In?

>

>

> ,

>

> We've all neglected postings, recently, and, maybe that is part of my fix.

When I posted helpful advice, I held myself to a different standard. I wanted to

speak from first hand experience or digested knowledge, and not from only what I

might think makes sense (but is not satisfactorily substantiated).

>

> And, by the way, I don't know of anyone that can hide behind doors when they

are standing at the long end. You are a person in super-shape and you should

have all the confidence in the world as to your appearance and abilities. As I

once read, I'll offer you the same advice for you to always remember...

>

>

>

>

> Confidence is Sexy!

>

>

>

>

> As for me, I'll have to remember...

>

> Progress, NOT perfection!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>