OT- needing help with Gluten and adrenals

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After reading the post about gluten ... I wanted to ask a question from my own expI went about 95 percent gluten free back in Feb when May/June rolled around and I wasnt feeling any better I started to eat a little bit more gluten only becuz I feel it has substance and my body needed it when I am taking all these supps and meds ( I was on abx at the time) ..its kind of detailed but wanted to give all the facts today woke up at 630am ..had about 6 hours of sleep .. felt pretty good ..went and got the mail ..yay!! (that is so very sad to be happy about getting the mail .. BIG sigh;) was hungry .. ate a bananana . & . 1 slice of light wheat/grain bread ..toasted w/ natural creamy peanut butter and light margerine ...took my supps including salt/c laid down was a little tired .. (not fatigued)

...30min later hungry again (odd for me cuz most of the time I dont have an app) so I ate a bowl of lucky charms .. (I checked w/ GM .. no gluten in this cereal but they cant grtee that it wasnt processed on machine that processes other gluten products ) so the only thing that I know that definitely has gluten in it would be the piece of bread (only `1 not 2 slices) now I feel even better .. dont have to lay down :)still with me ok its about 12noon and I eat 2 scrambled eggs , one over easy plus a slice of toast with light margerine still feeling good .. left home at 1230pm did my grocery shopping .at 215pm met an oral surgeon friend at his office to take a look at my tongue and cheek (bumps and lumps ) thankfully all OK.. ..then drove to his house to visit with his wife and 3 dogs ... we chatted for a bit .. took a short walk and got

home around 345pmon the way home stopped to help a stranded motorist but he was ok .. did my good day for the day so I am still feeling good ! at around 5pm I had a hankering for tortilla chips (corn) and sharp cheddar cheese (I have been craving this for the past 2 weeks ) .. (no gluten in either) so I whipped up some nachos (easy take chips //add tons of cheese and u got YUMMY) around 6pm started feeling nauseuas, head ache, hot and tired .. so my ? is this .. when do gluten symptoms appear after eating ? .. immediatly or is there a time window from when u take the first bite to feeling like crap ?I know all that just for one ? .. sorry my other ? is quick JIM< u gave me a frequency of 10,20 and 2250 for adrenals .. (u advised it may or may not work ) but the doug coil dosnt use any of those ..does anyone else with a

doug coil have a good frequency for adrenals ?thank you!! "Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened."

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susan--

my experience is that i feel it usually a bit later....and it actually can cause me to run fever and feel even much more herx-like....

i have heard that some people can actually not even experience a gluten side effect, even for a couple of days...and sometimes it takes the gluten building up in your system...

it is possible that had you just had one piece of toast, you might not have felt a gluten symptom, or you may have...but then lets say the next day you eat another gluten type food....it can be that you would then feel or begin to feel the gluten intolerance in your body....

for me, it can make me run fever, hurt all over, become bloated, increase inflammation in my lympenodes(sp?--sorry, brain fog) to where my ankles become swollen with inflammation.....and increase ALL my lyme symptoms in general...

my understanding is that it makes your body and immune system have to work that much harder....

but, that's just my personal experience.

it was the BIGGEST relief for me to see just HOW much better i felt, once i pulled off of gluten and lactose....that doesn't mean that i don't ever have it....i do, but i know to really spread it out, especially when it comes to gluten....

i actually lost 60 pounds in around 6-9 months, once i became gluten and lactose free....i may have already shared this, but over a year and a half, once my LLMD started going over the babesia(which is my biggest problem), i gained 100 pounds!!!! my body was not detoxing....

i share that to make it clear that it was good that i lost 60 pounds....going gluten-free will not cause anyone to lose or gain in a negative way....i didn't want to be any more confusing than i already can be!! LOL ;-Z

i just wish i had known some of these things WAY before i did...

i can't even let myself think much at all about the fact that i was tested for lyme in 2000, when i was 28 years old, and the md didn't read the lab correctly--my LLMD took a look at that lab work from 2000, and just shook his head, saying even with the ELISA test, it clearly showed i had lyme....i could have been saved a decade of my life...

AND i said i wasn't going there....signing off, so i can go work through reforgiving that md!!! ;-Z

warmly,

-anne davis

Subject: OT- needing help with Gluten and adrenalsTo: "lyme rife" <Lyme_and_Rife >Date: Sunday, September 26, 2010, 6:52 PM

After reading the post about gluten ... I wanted to ask a question from my own expI went about 95 percent gluten free back in Feb when May/June rolled around and I wasnt feeling any better I started to eat a little bit more gluten only becuz I feel it has substance and my body needed it when I am taking all these supps and meds ( I was on abx at the time) ..its kind of detailed but wanted to give all the facts today woke up at 630am ..had about 6 hours of sleep .. felt pretty good ..went and got the mail ..yay!! (that is so very sad to be happy about getting the mail .. BIG sigh;) was hungry .. ate a bananana . & . 1 slice of light wheat/grain bread ..toasted w/ natural creamy peanut butter and light margerine ...took my supps including salt/c laid down was a little tired .. (not fatigued) ..30min later hungry again (odd for me cuz most of the time I dont have an

app) so I ate a bowl of lucky charms .. (I checked w/ GM .. no gluten in this cereal but they cant grtee that it wasnt processed on machine that processes other gluten products ) so the only thing that I know that definitely has gluten in it would be the piece of bread (only `1 not 2 slices) now I feel even better .. dont have to lay down :)still with me ok its about 12noon and I eat 2 scrambled eggs , one over easy plus a slice of toast with light margerine still feeling good .. left home at 1230pm did my grocery shopping .at 215pm met an oral surgeon friend at his office to take a look at my tongue and cheek (bumps and lumps ) thankfully all OK.. ..then drove to his house to visit with his wife and 3 dogs ... we chatted for a bit .. took a short walk and got home around 345pmon the way home stopped to help a stranded motorist but he was ok

... did my good day for the day so I am still feeling good ! at around 5pm I had a hankering for tortilla chips (corn) and sharp cheddar cheese (I have been craving this for the past 2 weeks ) .. (no gluten in either) so I whipped up some nachos (easy take chips //add tons of cheese and u got YUMMY) around 6pm started feeling nauseuas, head ache, hot and tired .. so my ? is this .. when do gluten symptoms appear after eating ? .. immediatly or is there a time window from when u take the first bite to feeling like crap ?I know all that just for one ? .. sorry my other ? is quick JIM< u gave me a frequency of 10,20 and 2250 for adrenals .. (u advised it may or may not work ) but the doug coil dosnt use any of those ..does anyone else with a doug coil have a good frequency for adrenals ?thank you!!

"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened."

[Guest guest]

I tested negative for celiac but do find as a lymie I feel much better without

gluten in my system.

I would also watch your sugar though because lyme feeds on it. If I ate

something that was really sugary such as " lucky charms " I usually feel like a I

have a hangover from the sugar.

You could have also experienced a blood sugar dip in the evening as it looked

like you had no protein with dinner.

Tamara

>

> After reading the post about gluten ...

> I wanted to ask a question from my own exp

>

> I went about 95 percent gluten free back in Feb

> when May/June rolled around and I wasnt feeling any better I started to eat a

little bit more gluten only becuz I feel it has substance and my body needed it 

when I am taking all these supps and meds ( I was on abx at the time)

>

>  ..its kind of detailed but wanted to give all the facts

>

> today woke up at 630am ..had about 6 hours of sleep .. felt pretty good ..went

and got the mail ..yay!! (that is so very sad to be happy about getting the mail

... BIG sigh;)

>

> was hungry .. ate a bananana . & . 1 slice of light wheat/grain bread ..toasted

> w/ natural creamy peanut butter and light margerine ...took my supps including

salt/c

>

> laid down was a little tired .. (not fatigued)

> ..30min later  hungry again (odd for me cuz most of the time I dont have an

app)

> so I ate a bowl of lucky charms

> .. (I checked w/ GM .. no gluten in this cereal but they cant grtee that it

wasnt processed on machine that processes other gluten products )

>

> so the only thing that I know that definitely has gluten in it would be the

piece of bread (only `1 not 2 slices)

> now I feel even better .. dont have to lay down

>

> still with me

>

> ok its about 12noon and I  eat 2 scrambled eggs , one over easy plus a slice

of toast with light margerine

> still feeling good .. left home at 1230pm did my grocery shopping .

>

> at 215pm met an oral surgeon friend at his office  to take a look at my tongue

and cheek (bumps and lumps ) thankfully all OK.. ..then drove to his house to

visit with his wife and 3 dogs ... we  chatted for a bit .. took a short walk

and got home around 345pm

> on the way home stopped to help a stranded motorist but he was ok .. did my

good day for the day so I am still feeling good !

>

> at  around 5pm  I had a hankering for tortilla chips (corn) and sharp cheddar

cheese

>  (I have been craving this for the past 2 weeks ) ..  (no gluten in either) so

I whipped up some nachos (easy take chips //add tons of cheese and u got YUMMY)

>

> around  6pm started feeling nauseuas, head ache, hot and tired ..

>

> so my ? is this .. when do gluten symptoms appear  after eating  ? .

> . immediatly or is there a time window from when u take the first bite to

feeling like crap ?

>

> I know all that just for one ? .. sorry

>

> my other ? is quick

>

> JIM<

>  u gave me a frequency of 10,20 and 2250 for adrenals ..

>  (u advised it may or may not work )

> but the doug coil dosnt use any of those ..

> does anyone else with a doug coil have a good frequency for adrenals ?

>

> thank you!!

>

>

>

>

> " Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened. "

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good to know.

At the time I was tested I was not digesting any food properly and I was not

absorbing any of my vitamins. I went gluten free anyway and I did feel much

better. It made a huge difference.

Once in a while I'd like a free pass though. I miss the sweets.

Tamara

> > >

> > > After reading the post about gluten ...

> > > I wanted to ask a question from my own exp

> > >

> > > I went about 95 percent gluten free back in Feb

> > > when May/June rolled around and I wasnt feeling any better I started to

> > eat a little bit more gluten only becuz I feel it has substance and my body

> > needed it when I am taking all these supps and meds ( I was on abx at the

> > time)

> > >

> > > ..its kind of detailed but wanted to give all the facts

> > >

> > > today woke up at 630am ..had about 6 hours of sleep .. felt pretty good

> > ..went and got the mail ..yay!! (that is so very sad to be happy about

> > getting the mail .. BIG sigh;)

> > >

> > > was hungry .. ate a bananana . & . 1 slice of light wheat/grain bread

> > ..toasted

> > > w/ natural creamy peanut butter and light margerine ...took my supps

> > including salt/c

> > >

> > > laid down was a little tired .. (not fatigued)

> > > ..30min later hungry again (odd for me cuz most of the time I dont have

> > an app)

> > > so I ate a bowl of lucky charms

> > > .. (I checked w/ GM .. no gluten in this cereal but they cant grtee that

> > it wasnt processed on machine that processes other gluten products )

> > >

> > > so the only thing that I know that definitely has gluten in it would be

> > the piece of bread (only `1 not 2 slices)

> > > now I feel even better .. dont have to lay down

> > >

> > > still with me

> > >

> > > ok its about 12noon and I eat 2 scrambled eggs , one over easy plus a

> > slice of toast with light margerine

> > > still feeling good .. left home at 1230pm did my grocery shopping .

> > >

> > > at 215pm met an oral surgeon friend at his office to take a look at my

> > tongue and cheek (bumps and lumps ) thankfully all OK.. ..then drove to his

> > house to visit with his wife and 3 dogs ... we chatted for a bit .. took a

> > short walk and got home around 345pm

> > > on the way home stopped to help a stranded motorist but he was ok .. did

> > my good day for the day so I am still feeling good !

> > >

> > > at around 5pm I had a hankering for tortilla chips (corn) and sharp

> > cheddar cheese

> > > (I have been craving this for the past 2 weeks ) .. (no gluten in

> > either) so I whipped up some nachos (easy take chips //add tons of cheese

> > and u got YUMMY)

> > >

> > > around 6pm started feeling nauseuas, head ache, hot and tired ..

> > >

> > > so my ? is this .. when do gluten symptoms appear after eating ? .

> > > . immediatly or is there a time window from when u take the first bite to

> > feeling like crap ?

> > >

> > > I know all that just for one ? .. sorry

> > >

> > > my other ? is quick

> > >

> > > JIM<

> > > u gave me a frequency of 10,20 and 2250 for adrenals ..

> > > (u advised it may or may not work )

> > > but the doug coil dosnt use any of those ..

> > > does anyone else with a doug coil have a good frequency for adrenals ?

> > >

> > > thank you!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Whitney Schmucker

>

[Guest guest]

You should use Stevia instead of sugar. I cook EVERYTHING yummy with stevia, I'm gonna get an ice cream maker too :-) You dont have to miss out! Just change the way you make things. Whintey

 

Good to know.

At the time I was tested I was not digesting any food properly and I was not absorbing any of my vitamins. I went gluten free anyway and I did feel much better. It made a huge difference.

Once in a while I'd like a free pass though. I miss the sweets.

Tamara

> > >

> > > After reading the post about gluten ...

> > > I wanted to ask a question from my own exp

> > >

> > > I went about 95 percent gluten free back in Feb

> > > when May/June rolled around and I wasnt feeling any better I started to

> > eat a little bit more gluten only becuz I feel it has substance and my body

> > needed it when I am taking all these supps and meds ( I was on abx at the

> > time)

> > >

> > > ..its kind of detailed but wanted to give all the facts

> > >

> > > today woke up at 630am ..had about 6 hours of sleep .. felt pretty good

> > ..went and got the mail ..yay!! (that is so very sad to be happy about

> > getting the mail .. BIG sigh;)

> > >

> > > was hungry .. ate a bananana . & . 1 slice of light wheat/grain bread

> > ..toasted

> > > w/ natural creamy peanut butter and light margerine ...took my supps

> > including salt/c

> > >

> > > laid down was a little tired .. (not fatigued)

> > > ..30min later hungry again (odd for me cuz most of the time I dont have

> > an app)

> > > so I ate a bowl of lucky charms

> > > .. (I checked w/ GM .. no gluten in this cereal but they cant grtee that

> > it wasnt processed on machine that processes other gluten products )

> > >

> > > so the only thing that I know that definitely has gluten in it would be

> > the piece of bread (only `1 not 2 slices)

> > > now I feel even better .. dont have to lay down

> > >

> > > still with me

> > >

> > > ok its about 12noon and I eat 2 scrambled eggs , one over easy plus a

> > slice of toast with light margerine

> > > still feeling good .. left home at 1230pm did my grocery shopping .

> > >

> > > at 215pm met an oral surgeon friend at his office to take a look at my

> > tongue and cheek (bumps and lumps ) thankfully all OK.. ..then drove to his

> > house to visit with his wife and 3 dogs ... we chatted for a bit .. took a

> > short walk and got home around 345pm

> > > on the way home stopped to help a stranded motorist but he was ok .. did

> > my good day for the day so I am still feeling good !

> > >

> > > at around 5pm I had a hankering for tortilla chips (corn) and sharp

> > cheddar cheese

> > > (I have been craving this for the past 2 weeks ) .. (no gluten in

> > either) so I whipped up some nachos (easy take chips //add tons of cheese

> > and u got YUMMY)

> > >

> > > around 6pm started feeling nauseuas, head ache, hot and tired ..

> > >

> > > so my ? is this .. when do gluten symptoms appear after eating ? .

> > > . immediatly or is there a time window from when u take the first bite to

> > feeling like crap ?

> > >

> > > I know all that just for one ? .. sorry

> > >

> > > my other ? is quick

> > >

> > > JIM<

> > > u gave me a frequency of 10,20 and 2250 for adrenals ..

> > > (u advised it may or may not work )

> > > but the doug coil dosnt use any of those ..

> > > does anyone else with a doug coil have a good frequency for adrenals ?

> > >

> > > thank you!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Whitney Schmucker

>

-- Whitney Schmucker

[Guest guest]

i BUY THE LIQUID STEVIA. I HAVE A VITA MIX SO I CAN MAKE ICE CREAM. THAT WOULD BE SUCH A TREAT. HOW MUCH STEVIA WOULD YOU USE? DO YOU HAVE ANY STEVIA RECIPES TO PASS ON? THANKSBE WELLSTACY

 

You should use Stevia instead of sugar. I cook EVERYTHING yummy with stevia, I'm gonna get an ice cream maker too :-) You dont have to miss out! Just change the way you make things. Whintey

 

Good to know.

At the time I was tested I was not digesting any food properly and I was not absorbing any of my vitamins. I went gluten free anyway and I did feel much better. It made a huge difference.

Once in a while I'd like a free pass though. I miss the sweets.

Tamara

> > >

> > > After reading the post about gluten ...

> > > I wanted to ask a question from my own exp

> > >

> > > I went about 95 percent gluten free back in Feb

> > > when May/June rolled around and I wasnt feeling any better I started to

> > eat a little bit more gluten only becuz I feel it has substance and my body

> > needed it when I am taking all these supps and meds ( I was on abx at the

> > time)

> > >

> > > ..its kind of detailed but wanted to give all the facts

> > >

> > > today woke up at 630am ..had about 6 hours of sleep .. felt pretty good

> > ..went and got the mail ..yay!! (that is so very sad to be happy about

> > getting the mail .. BIG sigh;)

> > >

> > > was hungry .. ate a bananana . & . 1 slice of light wheat/grain bread

> > ..toasted

> > > w/ natural creamy peanut butter and light margerine ...took my supps

> > including salt/c

> > >

> > > laid down was a little tired .. (not fatigued)

> > > ..30min later hungry again (odd for me cuz most of the time I dont have

> > an app)

> > > so I ate a bowl of lucky charms

> > > .. (I checked w/ GM .. no gluten in this cereal but they cant grtee that

> > it wasnt processed on machine that processes other gluten products )

> > >

> > > so the only thing that I know that definitely has gluten in it would be

> > the piece of bread (only `1 not 2 slices)

> > > now I feel even better .. dont have to lay down

> > >

> > > still with me

> > >

> > > ok its about 12noon and I eat 2 scrambled eggs , one over easy plus a

> > slice of toast with light margerine

> > > still feeling good .. left home at 1230pm did my grocery shopping .

> > >

> > > at 215pm met an oral surgeon friend at his office to take a look at my

> > tongue and cheek (bumps and lumps ) thankfully all OK.. ..then drove to his

> > house to visit with his wife and 3 dogs ... we chatted for a bit .. took a

> > short walk and got home around 345pm

> > > on the way home stopped to help a stranded motorist but he was ok .. did

> > my good day for the day so I am still feeling good !

> > >

> > > at around 5pm I had a hankering for tortilla chips (corn) and sharp

> > cheddar cheese

> > > (I have been craving this for the past 2 weeks ) .. (no gluten in

> > either) so I whipped up some nachos (easy take chips //add tons of cheese

> > and u got YUMMY)

> > >

> > > around 6pm started feeling nauseuas, head ache, hot and tired ..

> > >

> > > so my ? is this .. when do gluten symptoms appear after eating ? .

> > > . immediatly or is there a time window from when u take the first bite to

> > feeling like crap ?

> > >

> > > I know all that just for one ? .. sorry

> > >

> > > my other ? is quick

> > >

> > > JIM<

> > > u gave me a frequency of 10,20 and 2250 for adrenals ..

> > > (u advised it may or may not work )

> > > but the doug coil dosnt use any of those ..

> > > does anyone else with a doug coil have a good frequency for adrenals ?

> > >

> > > thank you!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Whitney Schmucker

>

-- Whitney Schmucker