Guest guest Posted June 15, 2001 Report Share Posted June 15, 2001 Apple pectin is not a mercury chelator. Andy > Got this from another listserv. Any experience with apple pectin? Any > concerns for this? I checked the archives on this, and the only thing > I could find was aluminum. But my son is high in aluminum and I > thought I would start using it, just for that. > Rose > Vopr Pitan 1999;68(1):28-30 > > [Enterosorption by nonstarch polysaccharides as a > method of treatment of > children with mercury poisoning]. > > [Article in Russian] > > Sobolev MB, Khatskel' SB, Muradov AI > > Possibility of apple pectin " Classic AU-701 " (E-440) > usage as the means > of detoxication was evaluated in 146 children of 7-14 > years old with the increased content of mercury in > urine. Under the > influence of enterosorption the mercury withdrawal > with urine > increased, the period of mercury intoxication was > shortened by 6 weeks, > the hemogram and vegetative regulation indices of the > affected children improved. The authors consider > pectin to be effective > in mercury intoxication treatment. It may be also > used to > increase intoxication resistance under exposure to > chemicals. > > Publication Types: > > Clinical trial > > PMID: 10198961, UI: 992 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2001 Report Share Posted June 15, 2001 Apple Pectin also came up as a help in copper, aluminum, cadmium, and mercury...in the book " Prescriptions for Natural Healing " . Any commentary would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 I read apple pectin and malic acid (I think) for aluminum...what doses though?? Anyone used these??- [ ] Re: apple pectin for mercury chelator? Apple pectin is not a mercury chelator. Andy > Got this from another listserv. Any experience with apple pectin? Any > concerns for this? I checked the archives on this, and the only thing > I could find was aluminum. But my son is high in aluminum and I > thought I would start using it, just for that. > Rose > Vopr Pitan 1999;68(1):28-30 > > [Enterosorption by nonstarch polysaccharides as a > method of treatment of > children with mercury poisoning]. > > [Article in Russian] > > Sobolev MB, Khatskel' SB, Muradov AI > > Possibility of apple pectin " Classic AU-701 " (E-440) > usage as the means > of detoxication was evaluated in 146 children of 7-14 > years old with the increased content of mercury in > urine. Under the > influence of enterosorption the mercury withdrawal > with urine > increased, the period of mercury intoxication was > shortened by 6 weeks, > the hemogram and vegetative regulation indices of the > affected children improved. The authors consider > pectin to be effective > in mercury intoxication treatment. It may be also > used to > increase intoxication resistance under exposure to > chemicals. > > Publication Types: > > Clinical trial > > PMID: 10198961, UI: 992 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2001 Report Share Posted June 18, 2001 Apple pectin seemed to work really well to help my body eliminate metals. I used it for about a year and a half and then only needed to do a few rounds of rx chelators. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2001 Report Share Posted June 18, 2001 Gaylen: Thanks for your post. I've looked and looked in the archives for dosage for children. All of the people who say they used it successfully never say how much they used, and whether they took it several times a day or just once, etc. How much did you use and how often? I am interested in trying this for my son who has high aluminum, and wonder if you had any experiences that you would caution me about? It seems that the official position of the website is that it isn't a chelator, but yet there are quite a few posts talking about it positively, and I haven't seen anything about anything negative, except the feeling of Andy and some DAN! doctors that it doesn't work as a chelator of anything? Any comments from Andy, etc on why it isn't listed as aluminum detoxer, since nothing else is listed? Is there any literature about negative effects? Rose -- In @y..., Nomoremetals@a... wrote: > Apple pectin seemed to work really well to help my body eliminate metals. I > used it for about a year and a half and then only needed to do a few rounds > of rx chelators. > Gaylen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2001 Report Share Posted June 19, 2001 I don't know about any down sides or harmful effects at all unless you're sensative to apples which is why we didn't use it for my son. I just used the dosage recommended on the bottle -- it was so long ago I can't remember what that was, sorry. For a child, a doc once told me a good rule of thumb is to assume the dosages on bottles are for a 150 lb person so if you take the child's weight and figure what percentage it is of 150, then use that percentage of dosing, you'll have a safe dosage usually. For aluminum, malic acid is really good though one person posted a caution about it possibly allowing more aluminum in the blood to travel to cells. We found it to be very helpful at removing aluminum from the body and continued to take it for quite awhile for it's cleansing properties even after no more aluminum was showing in tests. Never saw an increase in aluminum, only a decrease in improvement in symptoms. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2001 Report Share Posted June 19, 2001 Rose, I used apple pectin for aluminum a number of years ago (adult, mercury poisoning from dental fillings). I hadn't had a hair analysis done at that time but guessed I had a body burden of aluminum due to my 6-pack of Mt. Dew (from cans only!) habit which I had quit by then. At this point in time, I don't remember dosage or frequency. I probably took however much and often it said on the label. I probably have it written down somewhere, will post again if I run across it. I took a variety of other supplements at that time including NAC, Vit C, etc. S On Mon, 18 June 2001, rfeurer@... wrote: > > <html><body> > <tt> > Gaylen: Thanks for your post. I've looked and looked in the archives <BR> > for dosage for children. All of the people who say they used it <BR> > successfully never say how much they used, and whether they took it <BR> > several times a day or just once, etc. How much did you use and how <BR> > often? I am interested in trying this for my son who has high <BR> > aluminum, and wonder if you had any experiences that you would caution <BR> > me about? <BR> > <BR> > It seems that the official position of the website is that it isn't a <BR> > chelator, but yet there are quite a few posts talking about it <BR> > positively, and I haven't seen anything about anything negative, <BR> > except the feeling of Andy and some DAN! doctors that it doesn't work <BR> > as a chelator of anything? Any comments from Andy, etc on why it isn't <BR> > listed as aluminum detoxer, since nothing else is listed? Is there any <BR> > literature about negative effects?<BR> > <BR> > Rose<BR> > <BR> > -- In @y..., Nomoremetals@a... wrote:<BR> > & gt; Apple pectin seemed to work really well to help my body eliminate <BR> > metals. & nbsp; I <BR> > & gt; used it for about a year and a half and then only needed to do a few <BR> > rounds <BR> > & gt; of rx chelators. & nbsp; <BR> > & gt; Gaylen<BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2001 Report Share Posted June 19, 2001 At 05:15 PM 6/18/2001 EDT, you wrote: >Apple pectin seemed to work really well to help my body eliminate metals. I >used it for about a year and a half and then only needed to do a few rounds >of rx chelators. >Gaylen Hi Gaylen, Not meaning this as a pointed question, I'm wondering what clues told you that it worked well. ALL the methods seem pretty much " not measurable " to me --- there are signs something is happening, but it seems rather unquantifyable and vague. I'm also wondering how much apple pectin is used and how it equates to apples. Like would the juice of 4 or 5 apples a day be enough to have some effect? Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2001 Report Share Posted June 19, 2001 In a message dated 6/19/01 1:17:11 AM Central Daylight Time, moriam@... writes: > Not meaning this as a pointed question, I'm wondering what clues > told you that it worked well. ALL the methods seem pretty much > " not measurable " to me --- there are signs something is happening, > but it seems rather unquantifyable and vague. > Hair analysis as well as a lessening in abnormal hormonal and liver enzyme blood tests. Plus a huge change in symptoms -- reduction in spells of narcolepsy-type of tiredness, less difficulty concentrating and forgetfulness, less mood swings, improvement in vision, elimination of bladder irritability among other things. It is important to note that about six months into taking the apple pectin, I moved off of the golf course where we had been poisoned which I'm sure it the best thing we've ever done for our health. I did notice feeling much better about a month into the apple pectin though. > >I'm also wondering how much apple pectin is used and how it > equates to apples. Like would the juice of 4 or 5 apples a > day be enough to have some effect? > > If I'm not mistaken, the pectin is the gluey stuff that keeps the roughage of the apple together so you wouldn't get much in the juice. The pills are highly concentrated pectin but I have no idea how many apples are used per pill. The juice would give you malic acid which is supposed to be good for aluminum and for cleansing the gall bladder and liver though. I used to do an apple juice fast every four months or so and felt great afterwards . Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 I hope Andy will correct me if I am wrong: I believe Andy thinks it is not a MERCURY chelator. People discuss using pectic and malic acid for getting rid of aluminum, and I think Andy is uncertain/undecided as to whether this works or not. I have no experience with it. At 09:29 PM 6/18/2001 -0000, you wrote: >Gaylen: Thanks for your post. I've looked and looked in the archives >for dosage for children. All of the people who say they used it >successfully never say how much they used, and whether they took it >several times a day or just once, etc. How much did you use and how >often? I am interested in trying this for my son who has high >aluminum, and wonder if you had any experiences that you would caution >me about? > >It seems that the official position of the website is that it isn't a >chelator, but yet there are quite a few posts talking about it >positively, and I haven't seen anything about anything negative, >except the feeling of Andy and some DAN! doctors that it doesn't work >as a chelator of anything? Any comments from Andy, etc on why it isn't >listed as aluminum detoxer, since nothing else is listed? Is there any >literature about negative effects? > >Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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